EPT[WESG] 2017 World Championships - Grand Finals Day - Page 46
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Gwavajuice
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The_Red_Viper
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HELL YES TY <3 | ||
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RKC
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What happened to the foreigners? Were the games really total stomps? | ||
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Elentos
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On January 15 2017 23:45 RKC wrote: Wow seems like a Korean stomp just like the old days of BW WCG. What happened to the foreigners? Were the games really total stomps? They were pretty outmatched in the bracket stage. It wasn't complete and total devastation like it would have been a few years ago but it wasn't close either. | ||
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RKC
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On January 15 2017 23:53 Elentos wrote: They were pretty outmatched in the bracket stage. It wasn't complete and total devastation like it would have been a few years ago but it wasn't close either. That's quite a surprise, given the narrowing gap in 2016 (e.g. Neeb winning KeSPA Cup). I haven't been following the game since Blizzcon. And a quick browse around the LRs indicates that Inno is back to top gear. Did the meta change? What a difference a few months make! | ||
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Elentos
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On January 16 2017 00:01 RKC wrote: That's quite a surprise, given the narrowing gap in 2016 (e.g. Neeb winning KeSPA Cup). I haven't been following the game since Blizzcon. And a quick browse around the LRs indicates that Inno is back to top gear. Did the meta change? What a difference a few months make! There was a very big balance patch a while ago that changed a lot of things (  Patch 3.8.0) so yeah, the meta is different. Especially PvT seems to be very Terran favored right now (despite that, Showtime was very confident before his match against Maru). | ||
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Charoisaur
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Charoisaur
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On January 16 2017 00:01 RKC wrote: That's quite a surprise, given the narrowing gap in 2016 (e.g. Neeb winning KeSPA Cup). I haven't been following the game since Blizzcon. And a quick browse around the LRs indicates that Inno is back to top gear. Did the meta change? What a difference a few months make! My theory is that last year the koreans were demotivated because they knew their teams would disband at the end of the year and now they all practice super hardcore to survive in the post-KesPa era. | ||
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Elentos
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On January 16 2017 00:23 Charoisaur wrote: Just caught up watching Neeb vs TY. what was Neeb doing on the last map? he gg'ed out while he was down only 5 army supply and they had the same amount of workers. full Idra? My best guess is that he thought the damage he was about to take in his natural (double drop) and his 3rd (not sure if it was a drop or a runby with bio but you can see it moving in on the mini map and the moment the attack begins Neeb ggs) plus the fact that his only robo was unpowered for such a long time would be irrecoverable. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16022 Posts
On January 16 2017 00:29 Elentos wrote: My best guess is that he thought the damage he was about to take in his natural (double drop) and his 3rd (not sure if it was a drop or a runby with bio but you can see it moving in on the mini map and the moment the attack begins Neeb ggs) plus the fact that his only robo was unpowered for such a long time would be irrecoverable. yeah but it's still weird to gg out so early without even trying in an elimination game of a 200k tournament. some players did comebacks from way worse positions. | ||
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Elentos
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RKC
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On January 16 2017 00:26 Charoisaur wrote: My theory is that last year the koreans were demotivated because they knew their teams would disband at the end of the year and now they all practice super hardcore to survive in the post-KesPa era. What's the situation in Korea now? Everyone is on solo now? Any major retirements? (Sorry, just haven't been keeping track of the game lately!) | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On January 16 2017 00:36 Charoisaur wrote: yeah but it's still weird to gg out so early without even trying in an elimination game of a 200k tournament. some players did comebacks from way worse positions. You never really know what was running through his head, to be fair. He's down 0-2 and that might make players look at the game differently. Bear in mind that we know he was down 5 army supply and had the same amount of workers, but there's not much telling what he thought the situation was gonna be like. On January 16 2017 00:41 RKC wrote: What's the situation in Korea now? Everyone is on solo now? Any major retirements? (Sorry, just haven't been keeping track of the game lately!) My understanding is that a lot of big teams dropped their SC2 squads, and some of them have kept their teams. | ||
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Elentos
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On January 16 2017 00:41 RKC wrote: What's the situation in Korea now? Everyone is on solo now? Any major retirements? (Sorry, just haven't been keeping track of the game lately!) A bunch of players have already found new teams while many are still teamless. (CJ) herO joined ROOT just today. Jin Air is the only Korean team that didn't disband. The amount of retirements is thankfully very small up to this point. Some players even announced their retirements and then came back a week later. | ||
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intotheheart
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Elentos
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On January 16 2017 00:44 IntoTheheart wrote: Although I think part of the weirdness of the KR scene is that a lot of them still need to do army service, and there hasn't been a rookie draft in a while so we're not getting new kids on the block as much as we used to. Rookie draft? There's only 1 Korean team, why draft? We did have a GSL debut this season and it was the greatest. But yeah, the Korean scene is eventually going to fade just because of inevitable military service. But that's still a few years away I reckon. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
 When they come back they might migrate back to BW.  | ||
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Elentos
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On January 16 2017 00:46 IntoTheheart wrote: Well they used to do rookie drafts back in the BW days, just kinda disappointing they didn't do one in SC2, but I think being part of a KeSPA team wasn't necessary for SC2 pros anymore. Also when KeSPA switched to SC2 there was the whole eSF scene still in tact so doing a draft wouldn't have been as viable. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16022 Posts
On January 16 2017 00:41 IntoTheheart wrote: You never really know what was running through his head, to be fair. He's down 0-2 and that might make players look at the game differently. Bear in mind that we know he was down 5 army supply and had the same amount of workers, but there's not much telling what he thought the situation was gonna be like. if it was game 1 or game 2 I could understand but in the last game of a series you usually fight until there's absolutely zero chance you can still win. | ||
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loko822
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Overall as cool as 200k sound Im not a fan of the steep prize pool distribution and I doubt it influences viewer numbers, but maybe theres some other advantage Im not seeing. | ||
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