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[WESG] 2017 World Championships - Grand Finals Day - Page 45

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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 15 2017 11:18 GMT
#881
On January 15 2017 20:15 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2017 20:12 opisska wrote:


The tragedy of round robin groups


Well, they are the best way of ensuring that the best player actually finishes first. Everyone plays everyone on equal terms, no luck of the draw.

So if a match ends up being irrelevant it's only because someone has been playing exceptionally well.


There is luck of draw in the order. It might happen that player A gets eliminated only because player B beats player C, because he gets to meet him at a point when the game does not matter to player C at all (while when A played C, it still mattered). There are definitely arguments for each system, but "no luck of draw" is not a valid argument for round robin.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
January 15 2017 11:33 GMT
#882
Fuck yeah TY :D
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 15 2017 11:36 GMT
#883
finally a win for TY jesus

time to watch the vod
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
January 15 2017 11:48 GMT
#884
How WESG tries to change history
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 15 2017 11:52 GMT
#885
On January 15 2017 20:48 Elentos wrote:
How WESG tries to change history


LMAO at that last line! Even a Dota player who never played SC2 could wrote a better review.
sunbeams are never made like me...
WidowMineHero
Profile Joined September 2014
New Zealand143 Posts
January 15 2017 11:55 GMT
#886
Finally TY wins a premier tournament.
"Time won't change anything, I will."
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28500 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-15 12:04:02
January 15 2017 12:03 GMT
#887
On January 15 2017 20:48 Elentos wrote:
How WESG tries to change history

That's an hilarious mistake

+ Show Spoiler +
Final map of bo7, Habitation Staton, was taken by Maru and he became first Champion of WESG Grand Final presented by Alipay.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 15 2017 12:10 GMT
#888
On January 15 2017 21:03 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2017 20:48 Elentos wrote:
How WESG tries to change history

That's an hilarious mistake

+ Show Spoiler +
Final map of bo7, Habitation Staton, was taken by Maru and he became first Champion of WESG Grand Final presented by Alipay.


What mistake? This is exactly what I remember. Nothing else could have happened. Perfect description of reality as I perceive it.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 15 2017 12:19 GMT
#889
I got enough with your BS today WESG: 1st stream down, 2nd horrible NASL audio + no ingame music, 3rd almost 2 hour delay, 4th stream down on finals again and now you wanna rob TY? Not gonna happen bitch!
sunbeams are never made like me...
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28500 Posts
January 15 2017 12:22 GMT
#890
On January 15 2017 21:10 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2017 21:03 Penev wrote:
On January 15 2017 20:48 Elentos wrote:
How WESG tries to change history

That's an hilarious mistake

+ Show Spoiler +
Final map of bo7, Habitation Staton, was taken by Maru and he became first Champion of WESG Grand Final presented by Alipay.


What mistake? This is exactly what I remember. Nothing else could have happened. Perfect description of reality as I perceive it.

you are the anti Noonius
I Protoss winner, could it be?
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
January 15 2017 12:27 GMT
#891
On January 15 2017 20:04 Elentos wrote:
Some production issues and an unfortunate time zone for EU, but I still had a blast with WESG and all it's awesome qualifier tournaments. I hope they do this again.

They are in it for the long run and have tons of actual money to burn so definitely!
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-15 12:47:50
January 15 2017 12:46 GMT
#892
Here's a thought:

WESG should become another WCS global event where the winner qualifies directly to Blizzcon. So there would be IEM as well as WESG.

And they should stop subtracting a seed from Korea or Circuit according to who wins the direct seeds at the global events. So at Blizzcon we would have 8 (or 7) players from Korea and Circuit each plus the 2 players that won the global events, regardless of region.

That would mean the stronger region could have two players more than the weaker one, but it would be based entirely on strength at the global events. So Korea could have 9 to Circuit's 7. Or the other way around (when pigs fly).

So Blizzard could keep the separation of regions meaning foreigners are represented at Blizzcon, but there would be a small countermeasure balancing things out ensuring the strongest players qualify. A bit of both.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28500 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-15 12:55:51
January 15 2017 12:54 GMT
#893
On January 15 2017 21:46 sneakyfox wrote:
Here's a thought:

WESG should become another WCS global event where the winner qualifies directly to Blizzcon. So there would be IEM as well as WESG.

And they should stop subtracting a seed from Korea or Circuit according to who wins the direct seeds at the global events. So at Blizzcon we would have 8 (or 7) players from Korea and Circuit each plus the 2 players that won the global events, regardless of region.

That would mean the stronger region could have two players more than the weaker one, but it would be based entirely on strength at the global events. So Korea could have 9 to Circuit's 7. Or the other way around (when pigs fly).

So Blizzard could keep the separation of regions meaning foreigners are represented at Blizzcon, but there would be a small countermeasure balancing things out ensuring the strongest players qualify. A bit of both.

The format should change first then, too little Koreans participated in the main event of this tournament to give it such an important role
I Protoss winner, could it be?
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
January 15 2017 12:58 GMT
#894
For the event itself I would like to see it in the Dreamhack style where one game occupies the main stage for one entire day.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
January 15 2017 13:05 GMT
#895
On January 15 2017 20:03 Zephyp wrote:
Great to have a final with 7 games after 3-0, 3-0, 3-0, 3-0, 3-0, 3-0, 3-2, 3-0, 3-0 and 3-0 in Ro12, quarters and semis.

And congrats to TY for the win! $200k is a damn fine prize in this tournament.

TY's road to $200k:

South Korea qualifiers:
Win vs BYE
Win 2-0 vs Rogue
Win 2-0 vs soO
Win 2-1 vs GuMiho
Win 3-0 vs INnoVation

Asia-Pacific Qualifiers:
Win 2-0 vs PSiArc
Win 2-0 vs aconcises
Win 2-0 vs SwEEt
Win 3-0 vs PiLiPiLi
Win 3-0 vs XY
Win 3-0 vs Maru

Main event:
Win 2-1 vs ShoWTimE
Win 2-0 vs Jim
Win 2-1 vs Cham
Win 2-0 vs PSiArc
Lose 0-2 vs Kelazhur
Win 3-0 vs Stephano
Win 3-0 vs Neeb
Win 4-3 vs Maru

Kelazhur was the only one to beat him and TY beat Maru twice. Winning the Korean qualifier was a big one, since that's where the hardest competition was found, evidenced by the two Koreans ending up in the final.

Thanks for the recap, his run is indeed very impressive :D.
Nice consolation prize for Kelazhur having been the only one to take a bo3+ off of him.
WriterMaru
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
January 15 2017 13:20 GMT
#896
Wow, 4-3 after so many sweeps; any great macro TvT games?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-15 13:27:39
January 15 2017 13:24 GMT
#897
On January 15 2017 22:20 EatingBomber wrote:
Wow, 4-3 after so many sweeps; any great macro TvT games?

Nothing like their match on Daybreak in the IEM qualifiers. Lots of quick action, getting down and dirty in the early game and a whole bunch of doom drops. Pretty entertaining all in all but no big tank chess game.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
January 15 2017 13:35 GMT
#898
On January 15 2017 22:24 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2017 22:20 EatingBomber wrote:
Wow, 4-3 after so many sweeps; any great macro TvT games?

Nothing like their match on Daybreak in the IEM qualifiers. Lots of quick action, getting down and dirty in the early game and a whole bunch of doom drops. Pretty entertaining all in all but no big tank chess game.

Ah, unfortunate. Still, great to see him finally fulfil his promise.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
January 15 2017 13:58 GMT
#899
So glad TY finally got his well deserved victory after a decade of progaming
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
January 15 2017 14:02 GMT
#900
Yessssss TY finally!!!
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