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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 15 2016 06:19 GMT
#241
For Senpai ByuN!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
December 15 2016 06:19 GMT
#242
On December 15 2016 15:16 EatingBomber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 15:08 stuchiu wrote:
The theoretical counter play is that infestors eliminate mutas (as an option) from the tech tree so you can ramp up harassment and aggression with liberators and drops.

Just curious; which Terran player did you think had the best anti-Mutalisk tactics of all time? As in, those who were best at countering large flocks (>20) of mutalisks and actually managing to completely nullify their effectiveness

Flash
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 15 2016 06:19 GMT
#243
fun game! deserves a game 5
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10092 Posts
December 15 2016 06:19 GMT
#244
hahahaha im so happy! what a series
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
December 15 2016 06:20 GMT
#245
On December 15 2016 15:19 Topin wrote:
hahahaha im so happy! what a series


Man, this should have been the finals..
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-15 06:21:21
December 15 2016 06:21 GMT
#246
On December 15 2016 15:19 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 15:16 EatingBomber wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:08 stuchiu wrote:
The theoretical counter play is that infestors eliminate mutas (as an option) from the tech tree so you can ramp up harassment and aggression with liberators and drops.

Just curious; which Terran player did you think had the best anti-Mutalisk tactics of all time? As in, those who were best at countering large flocks (>20) of mutalisks and actually managing to completely nullify their effectiveness

Flash


in BW ofc.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 15 2016 06:21 GMT
#247
On December 15 2016 15:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
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On December 15 2016 15:00 ChristianS wrote:
On December 15 2016 14:56 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 15 2016 14:54 ChristianS wrote:
So I haven't watched a lot of games on it, but it seems like this patch has probably been pretty rough on Terran? Increased health and damage on the tank doesn't seem to really offset the loss of mobility with medivacs, especially against blinding cloud or corrosive bile, and lib nerf + bane buff seems to make muta/ling/bane a bit of a nightmare.

You guys have probably watched more post-patch games than me, is that what you've been seeing? I don't really know about TvP, I haven't seen much of it yet.

the baneling buff seems to be really strong but I think it's to early to make conclusions on balance. tvp looks pretty fair.

only thing I absolutely detest at the moment is the burrow-fungal coinflip mechanic.

Oh, I wouldn't want to make any statements about game balance yet. It's totally possible Terrans will figure this shit out tomorrow, but it sure looks like so far it's not great for T. The burrow fungal thing does seem problematic though, it would be cool to see the burrowed infestors be weaker somehow (reduced casting range maybe?)


The burrow-infestor thing is a design problem more so than a balance problem.


Yeah, cloaked units shouldn't do aoe damage without some significant drawback.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 15 2016 06:22 GMT
#248
On December 15 2016 15:16 EatingBomber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 15:08 stuchiu wrote:
The theoretical counter play is that infestors eliminate mutas (as an option) from the tech tree so you can ramp up harassment and aggression with liberators and drops.

Just curious; which Terran player did you think had the best anti-Mutalisk tactics of all time? As in, those who were best at countering large flocks (>20) of mutalisks and actually managing to completely nullify their effectiveness


If you mean without doing any damage prior to >20 mutas, the only one that managed it was Taeja. Everyone else inevitably died (especially post-WoL because of the regen buff).
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
December 15 2016 06:23 GMT
#249
On December 15 2016 15:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 15:19 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:16 EatingBomber wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:08 stuchiu wrote:
The theoretical counter play is that infestors eliminate mutas (as an option) from the tech tree so you can ramp up harassment and aggression with liberators and drops.

Just curious; which Terran player did you think had the best anti-Mutalisk tactics of all time? As in, those who were best at countering large flocks (>20) of mutalisks and actually managing to completely nullify their effectiveness

Flash


in BW ofc.

Turret forest nostalgia
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
December 15 2016 06:24 GMT
#250
On December 15 2016 15:22 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 15:16 EatingBomber wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:08 stuchiu wrote:
The theoretical counter play is that infestors eliminate mutas (as an option) from the tech tree so you can ramp up harassment and aggression with liberators and drops.

Just curious; which Terran player did you think had the best anti-Mutalisk tactics of all time? As in, those who were best at countering large flocks (>20) of mutalisks and actually managing to completely nullify their effectiveness


If you mean without doing any damage prior to >20 mutas, the only one that managed it was Taeja. Everyone else inevitably died (especially post-WoL because of the regen buff).

Life vs TaeJa on Heavy Rain is still one of the greatest games of all time
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 15 2016 06:26 GMT
#251
I think Bio vs roach/ravager is right in ByuN's wheelhouse. I favor him to win g5.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
December 15 2016 06:26 GMT
#252
On December 15 2016 15:23 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 15:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:19 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:16 EatingBomber wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:08 stuchiu wrote:
The theoretical counter play is that infestors eliminate mutas (as an option) from the tech tree so you can ramp up harassment and aggression with liberators and drops.

Just curious; which Terran player did you think had the best anti-Mutalisk tactics of all time? As in, those who were best at countering large flocks (>20) of mutalisks and actually managing to completely nullify their effectiveness

Flash


in BW ofc.

Turret forest nostalgia

in his game in sc2 against curious he was pretty safe against mutas too
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10092 Posts
December 15 2016 06:27 GMT
#253
why is Dark going roach/ravager if MLB was doing great :/
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 15 2016 06:28 GMT
#254
On December 15 2016 15:26 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 15:23 eviltomahawk wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:19 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:16 EatingBomber wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:08 stuchiu wrote:
The theoretical counter play is that infestors eliminate mutas (as an option) from the tech tree so you can ramp up harassment and aggression with liberators and drops.

Just curious; which Terran player did you think had the best anti-Mutalisk tactics of all time? As in, those who were best at countering large flocks (>20) of mutalisks and actually managing to completely nullify their effectiveness

Flash


in BW ofc.

Turret forest nostalgia

in his game in sc2 against curious he was pretty safe against mutas too


The Flash vs Curious game I remember was the one where Curious made a comeback with Viper roach because Flash didn't want to make vikings to protect his mech army.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
December 15 2016 06:28 GMT
#255
On December 15 2016 15:27 Topin wrote:
why is Dark going roach/ravager if MLB was doing great :/

the map is pretty bad for LBM imo
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 15 2016 06:28 GMT
#256
On December 15 2016 15:27 Topin wrote:
why is Dark going roach/ravager if MLB was doing great :/


He likes roach/ravager on this map.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 15 2016 06:28 GMT
#257
On December 15 2016 15:27 Topin wrote:
why is Dark going roach/ravager if MLB was doing great :/


He's 1-1 with MLB. I get the feeling he'd rather go out dying on a style he prefers playing which is this one.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
December 15 2016 06:29 GMT
#258
On December 15 2016 15:26 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 15:23 eviltomahawk wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:19 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:16 EatingBomber wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:08 stuchiu wrote:
The theoretical counter play is that infestors eliminate mutas (as an option) from the tech tree so you can ramp up harassment and aggression with liberators and drops.

Just curious; which Terran player did you think had the best anti-Mutalisk tactics of all time? As in, those who were best at countering large flocks (>20) of mutalisks and actually managing to completely nullify their effectiveness

Flash


in BW ofc.

Turret forest nostalgia

in his game in sc2 against curious he was pretty safe against mutas too


That was a fun game.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
December 15 2016 06:29 GMT
#259
On December 15 2016 15:28 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 15:26 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:23 eviltomahawk wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:19 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:16 EatingBomber wrote:
On December 15 2016 15:08 stuchiu wrote:
The theoretical counter play is that infestors eliminate mutas (as an option) from the tech tree so you can ramp up harassment and aggression with liberators and drops.

Just curious; which Terran player did you think had the best anti-Mutalisk tactics of all time? As in, those who were best at countering large flocks (>20) of mutalisks and actually managing to completely nullify their effectiveness

Flash


in BW ofc.

Turret forest nostalgia

in his game in sc2 against curious he was pretty safe against mutas too


The Flash vs Curious game I remember was the one where Curious made a comeback with Viper roach because Flash didn't want to make vikings to protect his mech army.

There was another game on Iron fortress where Flash made more than 80 turrets and won with Mass BC/Raven
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 15 2016 06:29 GMT
#260
Ok that burrowed infestor was disgusting.
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