EPTOn December 05 2016 11:19 Seeker wrote:
Everyone please heed the mod note at top.
Everyone please heed the mod note at top.
Even 32 boys 1 cup didn't get moderated, daaayyyummm
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BasetradeTV
Canada1307 Posts
Even 32 boys 1 cup didn't get moderated, daaayyyummm | ||
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ShambhalaWar
United States930 Posts
You could just change the name right? I like basetrade, but wtf did you think was going to happen when you signed onto that name? Right? Maybe funny to you because you live in Canada, but isn't funny to me. We all have a right to vote with our viewership, if people don't want to watch because of the name... I support that fully. As for the mod, invoking the US election by virtue of name makes this a political thread, regardless of intention. User was warned for this post | ||
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BasetradeTV
Canada1307 Posts
On December 05 2016 15:11 ShambhalaWar wrote: In b4 nazi-corporate media censorship page 5... You could just change the name right? I like basetrade, but wtf did you think was going to happen when you signed onto that name? Right? Maybe funny to you because you live in Canada, but isn't funny to me. We all have a right to vote with our viewership, if people don't want to watch because of the name... I support that fully. As for the mod, invoking the US election by virtue of name makes this a political thread, regardless of intention. User was warned for this post Feel free to overreact as much as you want, the first tournament had more views than anything else we've done lately. I don't think you understand that you're in the minority. | ||
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On December 05 2016 15:02 BasetradeTV wrote: Even 32 boys 1 cup didn't get moderated, daaayyyummm 2g1c was kinda old hat by that point. That and I doubt it affected as many lives.  | ||
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SC2Towelie
United States561 Posts
On December 05 2016 15:11 ShambhalaWar wrote: As for the mod, invoking the US election by virtue of name makes this a political thread, regardless of intention. No, it really doesn't... People getting emotional and overreacting to this make it a political thread. | ||
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ShambhalaWar
United States930 Posts
On December 05 2016 15:57 BasetradeTV wrote: Feel free to overreact as much as you want, the first tournament had more views than anything else we've done lately. I don't think you understand that you're in the minority. Maybe I'm in the minority when it comes to people watching starcraft on the internet, but if you venture out past that to the rest of the country or the world, then I'm not in the minority. Further more, I'm sure the success of your stream has to do with the fact that you offer a high quality product, that I and many others enjoy... I promise you it has nothing to do with the name (which you could change). If you have any friends that are gay, hispanic, black, or really any minority group that live in the United States, I suggest you call them and ask them how they felt about the election in the first week and going forward. Shocked and scared that's what I hear from people... Jewish people walking home to find swastikas on their doors and shit like that, little kids chanting, "build the wall" in school while other little hispanic kids are crying and recording it on their phones. It's fucked up... So go ahead and tell me I'm overreacting again. If you actually believe that I am overreacting, it's because you can afford to, because you think it won't affect you. Nobody is threatening to take away your healthcare or your right to marry based on your sexual preference. On December 05 2016 23:50 SC2Towelie wrote: No, it really doesn't... People getting emotional and overreacting to this make it a political thread. That's like making a religious joke or Jesus pun, and then saying it doesn't invoke religion. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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BasetradeTV
Canada1307 Posts
On December 06 2016 01:46 ShambhalaWar wrote: Maybe I'm in the minority when it comes to people watching starcraft on the internet, but if you venture out past that to the rest of the country or the world, then I'm not in the minority. Further more, I'm sure the success of your stream has to do with the fact that you offer a high quality product, that I and many others enjoy... I promise you it has nothing to do with the name (which you could change). If you have any friends that are gay, hispanic, black, or really any minority group that live in the United States, I suggest you call them and ask them how they felt about the election in the first week and going forward. Shocked and scared that's what I hear from people... Jewish people walking home to find swastikas on their doors and shit like that, little kids chanting, "build the wall" in school while other little hispanic kids are crying and recording it on their phones. It's fucked up... So go ahead and tell me I'm overreacting again. If you actually believe that I am overreacting, it's because you can afford to, because you think it won't affect you. Nobody is threatening to take away your healthcare or your right to marry based on your sexual preference. That's like making a religious joke or Jesus pun, and then saying it doesn't invoke religion. You're overreacting | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25658 Posts
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killerm12
Slovakia601 Posts
On December 06 2016 01:46 ShambhalaWar wrote: Maybe I'm in the minority when it comes to people watching starcraft on the internet, but if you venture out past that to the rest of the country or the world, then I'm not in the minority. Further more, I'm sure the success of your stream has to do with the fact that you offer a high quality product, that I and many others enjoy... I promise you it has nothing to do with the name (which you could change). If you have any friends that are gay, hispanic, black, or really any minority group that live in the United States, I suggest you call them and ask them how they felt about the election in the first week and going forward. Shocked and scared that's what I hear from people... Jewish people walking home to find swastikas on their doors and shit like that, little kids chanting, "build the wall" in school while other little hispanic kids are crying and recording it on their phones. It's fucked up... So go ahead and tell me I'm overreacting again. If you actually believe that I am overreacting, it's because you can afford to, because you think it won't affect you. Nobody is threatening to take away your healthcare or your right to marry based on your sexual preference. That's like making a religious joke or Jesus pun, and then saying it doesn't invoke religion. User was temp banned for this post. take this BS to reddit or, even better, tumblr Nobody cares about your political views here - no matter how biased and/or brainwashed they are | ||
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BasetradeTV
Canada1307 Posts
Make Korea Great Again #2 - http://challonge.com/BTTVKR2 (December 8th) Prize pool: https://matcherino.com/b/tournaments/4617 (Codes available upon the day of event) This tournament's codes will be MKGA2 | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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Tommy131313
Germany157 Posts
On December 05 2016 15:57 BasetradeTV wrote: Feel free to overreact as much as you want, the first tournament had more views than anything else we've done lately. I don't think you understand that you're in the minority. ...and minorities don't matter, is it that you're saying? I wonder, if you are in any way aware, that you're paying a high price for the rise in viewership numbers by caressing the fascists. Would you name a tournament "Mein Kampf"? (that's the Nazi "bible" from Adolf Hitler) User was warned for this post | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On December 08 2016 11:27 Tommy131313 wrote: ...and minorities don't matter, is it that you're saying? I wonder, if you are in any way aware, that you're paying a high price for the rise in viewership numbers by caressing the fascists. Would you name a tournament "Mein Kampf"? (that's the Nazi "bible" from Adolf Hitler) User was warned for this post The weird tumblr style incoherent ranting should stay on tumblr, lets keep starcraft about starcraft | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
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ShambhalaWar
United States930 Posts
On December 08 2016 11:27 Tommy131313 wrote: ...and minorities don't matter, is it that you're saying? I wonder, if you are in any way aware, that you're paying a high price for the rise in viewership numbers by caressing the fascists. Would you name a tournament "Mein Kampf"? (that's the Nazi "bible" from Adolf Hitler) User was warned for this post Some people don't get it, if it doesn't affect them or they don't think it will, they aren't concerned. This isn't about minorities, just about money = viewers = greater numbers. For the record I'm in no way saying, "fuck Basetrade" or anything like that... but I definitely lost respect for the brand. And I'm one person that won't be watching any of these tournaments. I've been a big fan and player, since the wings beta. As much as I like starcraft, I won't choose it over speaking out against a tournament name created from the words of a man who espouses hate against minorities and empowers racist people/groups. If this sounds like a tumbler rant to some people, try turning on a news station other than fox and objectively looking at the things that are happening in my country. I'm didn't make anything up in my previous post, those things actually happened, you can google them. You are using the words of a man who is an advocate of torture and nuclear arms proliferation. If you other people feel this is wrong like I do, please don't watch, speak with your viewership numbers. | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5546 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On December 08 2016 13:00 ShambhalaWar wrote: Some people don't get it, if it doesn't affect them or they don't think it will, they aren't concerned. This isn't about minorities, just about money = viewers = greater numbers. For the record I'm in no way saying, "fuck Basetrade" or anything like that... but I definitely lost respect for the brand. And I'm one person that won't be watching any of these tournaments. I've been a big fan and player, since the wings beta. As much as I like starcraft, I won't choose it over speaking out against a tournament name created from the words of a man who espouses hate against minorities and empowers racist people/groups. If this sounds like a tumbler rant to some people, try turning on a news station other than fox and objectively looking at the things that are happening in my country. I'm didn't make anything up in my previous post, those things actually happened, you can google them. You are using the words of a man who is an advocate of torture and nuclear arms proliferation. If you other people feel this is wrong like I do, please don't watch, speak with your viewership numbers. Naming a tournament as a joke based on a famous quote by someone you consider evil (my opinion of the man is irrelevant) is in no possible way offensive. Many famous dictators/psychos/shitters have given us bits of wisdom repeated to this day http://lifehacker.com/10-surprisingly-inspirational-quotes-from-evil-people-1454328362 http://thoughtcatalog.com/jim-goad/2014/08/20-wonderfully-inspirational-quotes-from-killers-and-psychopaths/ just from the first page of a lazy google search. Just because we use those quotes does not mean we espouse all their beliefs. Just because I use those quotes does not mean I support genocide or war. Words are words, and I use them as words to mean that specific quote or what the quote means to me. You're lucky I'm feeling nice by even replying. Quit this... crusade before I click buttons. | ||
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ShambhalaWar
United States930 Posts
On December 08 2016 13:59 lichter wrote: Naming a tournament as a joke based on a famous quote by someone you consider evil (my opinion of the man is irrelevant) is in no possible way offensive. Many famous dictators/psychos/shitters have given us bits of wisdom repeated to this day http://lifehacker.com/10-surprisingly-inspirational-quotes-from-evil-people-1454328362 http://thoughtcatalog.com/jim-goad/2014/08/20-wonderfully-inspirational-quotes-from-killers-and-psychopaths/ just from the first page of a lazy google search. Just because we use those quotes does not mean we espouse all their beliefs. Just because I use those quotes does not mean I support genocide or war. Words are words, and I use them as words to mean that specific quote or what the quote means to me. You're lucky I'm feeling nice by even replying. Quit this... crusade before I click buttons. You're treating me with leniencey because I make a valid point. It's true we learn things from the mistakes of our past, but isn't the point of that learning not to repeat the harm they caused? No person is 100% evil, or even evil at all... still people do things to hurt other people and if you are in the majority it is your responsibility to speak up for and even protect the minority, even if such things aren't easy to do. If you doubt me, ask players from Mexico how they feel about the name of this tournament? My guess is that the entire country didn't like being told they had to erect and pay for a wall to keep them out of my country. As a community we should care about Mexican players and how borrowing speech from a racist man might have an effect. Ask yourself if something like this is "inclusive" or if some people will look at the name and feel the same horrible feel I felt in the pit of my stomach on election day. If it isn't "inclusive"... is that really what TL is supposed to be about? Basetrade, ask yourself the same question. Please open this again... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/517095-petition-for-rifkin-to-change-the-name-of-mkga And if it's so "idiotic" let it die by itself with everyone speaking out against me. If my ideas are so stupid, then feedback of the community should match that. | ||
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TomInKorea
Korea (South)39 Posts
On December 08 2016 15:17 ShambhalaWar wrote: You're treating me with leniencey because I make a valid point. It's true we learn things from the mistakes of our past, but isn't the point of that learning not to repeat the harm they caused? No person is 100% evil, or even evil at all... still people do things to hurt other people and if you are in the majority it is your responsibility to speak up for and even protect the minority, even if such things aren't easy to do. If you doubt me, ask players from Mexico how they feel about the name of this tournament? My guess is that the entire country didn't like being told they had to erect and pay for a wall to keep them out of my country. As a community we should care about Mexican players and how borrowing speech from a racist man might have an effect. Ask yourself if something like this is "inclusive" or if some people will look at the name and feel the same horrible feel I felt in the pit of my stomach on election day. If it isn't "inclusive"... is that really what TL is supposed to be about? Basetrade, ask yourself the same question. Please open this again... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/517095-petition-for-rifkin-to-change-the-name-of-mkga And if it's so "idiotic" let it die by itself with everyone speaking out against me. If my ideas are so stupid, then feedback of the community should match that. Lots of mays, questions, guesses and general I'm-offended-by-proxy concern trolling. Major, a player from Mexico, competed in the first MKGA tournament, so evidently he wasn't particulary bothered by the name. But you don't actually care about actual people's opinions, you're concerned about demonstarting your virtue and superiority over the bad-thinking 'racists'. | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On December 08 2016 15:27 TomInKorea wrote: Lots of mays, questions, guesses and general I'm-offended-by-proxy concern trolling. Major, a player from Mexico, competed in the first MKGA tournament, so evidently he wasn't particulary bothered by the name. But you don't actually care about actual people's opinions, you're concerned about demonstarting your virtue and superiority over the bad-thinking 'racists'. You might be the single most intelligent person on team liquid. You even pointed out virtue signalling. You is a good boy. | ||
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