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On October 29 2016 05:47 AbouSV wrote:
In the French Twitch chat someone mentioned a very bad news about Dear, almost making him cancel his venue to Blizzcon. Does anyone knows something about it? (I won't say a thing about the news itself since there were no source)
twitch chat isn't a reliable source?
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On October 29 2016 05:50 Alchemik wrote:
how did Elazer beat Solar
polandzerg > koreazerg
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On October 29 2016 05:37 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:36 Kerence wrote:On October 29 2016 05:31 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 05:29 Kerence wrote:On October 29 2016 05:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:On October 29 2016 05:24 Kerence wrote:On October 29 2016 05:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:On October 29 2016 05:15 ArtyK wrote:On October 29 2016 05:14 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 05:12 ArtyK wrote:
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And? This is still 200K for the winner and you're supposedly playing against weaker players this year :p pretty sure this affects the mentality of the players. I don't think it's a coincidence that foreigners are now catching up after 18 years of complete korean dominance at the exact same time all the teams are disbanding. right they instantly got way worse after leaving the practice house I think they've been aware of the situatio since long before the teams actually disbanded, and yeah that was bound to affect their training regimen Most likely. I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but TotalBiscuit commented on this when Proleague was cancelled. Cynicalbrit_official wrote:
Keeping GSL running shouldn't be a problem as long as Blizzard keeps their wallet open. The problem is filling it with top talent when you have no semi-pro scene, no up-and-comers and no teamhouse infrastructure.
More than all of that however, is keeping the morale of the Korean pros up. There were already some pretty reliable reports that a bunch of KeSPA Koreans did not practice hard for KeSPA cup because they knew this was coming. Motivation and morale over there is at an all time low and has been steadily declining since the region lock announcement.
What I think a lot of people don't realize is that Korean pros really valued playing in foreign countries. Not for prize money, but to actually get out and see the world and play in front of enthusiastic crowds. It was the #1 priority of every Korean player I've ever negotiated a contract with or tried to sign, way above salary.
Imagine after all that, you get told "we don't want you anymore". Heartbreaking. Now even if there was a reversal of the region lock, most of the Korean scene is teamless and would be reliant on precious few qualifier spots to be able to afford to come to a foreign event in the first place. Foreign teams don't wanna sign them because they can't use their players in events outside of Korea and Korean events are on at horrible times for the majority of the west and get poor viewership.
Source: + Show Spoiler +https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/583t7w/want_to_do_something_for_korean_sc2_help/d8y5loq/ I really understand why Blizzard chose to revive the foreign scene instead of the korean one but we'll only be able to tell if that was the good choice in 2 years or so I mean, what else could they have done for the korean scene anyway? They pretty much already fund GSL. Sure I dislike the WCS rules, but it didn't effect what happened that much. The korean scene might have lived a little longer if they didn't region lock WCS, but I doubt much would have changed. I might have prevented a bunch of retirements. PartinG, HerO, Fantasy, Rain, Jaedong, Soulkey all retired or lost motivation because of wcs changes. Sure. TB also commented on how region lock cut of any other chance of funding for proleague teams: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/581cnr/5_kespa_teams_have_disbanded/d8woogp/And as you say some players might have stuck around longer. I'm not agreeing about the region lock anyway, I think it's stupid. But outside of that there's not much Blizzard could have done to prevent the situation in Korea. As much as I appreciate TBs constant contributions to SC2, he does not automatically know what the fuck he's talking about simply by being TB and worse, he says this shit for attention as his income is derived from being paid attention to.
a lot of times TB provides some really cool insights. occasionally he is incorrect. that said, i don't think he is saying this to "gain attention". i think he genuinely believes what he is saying.
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okay, what about Nerchio - TY?
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On October 29 2016 05:51 Alchemik wrote:
okay, what about Nerchio - TY?
Best TvZ series since HoTS
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On October 29 2016 05:51 Alchemik wrote:
okay, what about Nerchio - TY?
Games 2 and 3 of that series were the best games of the tournament so far.
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On October 29 2016 05:51 Alchemik wrote:
okay, what about Nerchio - TY?
TY was crushing him super hard, then he messed up dealing with a roach counter attack on New Gettysburg and from then on they played a really good series.
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On October 29 2016 05:51 Alchemik wrote:
okay, what about Nerchio - TY?
game 1 was disaster for nerchio from the start
game 2 was nerchio comeback when TY pulled his mech army back and allowed nerchio to take it to late game
game 3 was TY bio tank lib ghost defeats nerchio late game
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On October 29 2016 05:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Games 2 and 3 of that series were the best games of the tournament so far.
game 2 was also the biggest throw of the tournament
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that killed 7 probes. Really ?
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Weird that violet is still alive and kicking in this map...?
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On October 29 2016 05:53 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 29 2016 05:51 Alchemik wrote:
okay, what about Nerchio - TY? Games 2 and 3 of that series were the best games of the tournament so far. game 2 was also the biggest throw of the tournament
I'm not sure anyone can surpass Snute's brain melting away before our very eyes, but goddamn if TY didn't try.
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On October 29 2016 05:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
that killed 7 probes. Really ?
not like killing probes really matters
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On October 29 2016 05:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
that killed 7 probes. Really ?
banes one shot probes with those upgrades, not too surprising considering dear didn't react very early
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I think we were really underrating Dear after game 1
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A storm walkbye onto the drones, almost a storm drop. This is definitely Dear.
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On October 29 2016 05:54 Alchemik wrote:not like killing probes really matters
of course not here but still
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On October 29 2016 05:54 Durnuu wrote:banes one shot probes with those upgrades, not too surprising considering dear didn't react very early
the banes snuck in after the overlord had already passed so dear was late on the pull
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On October 29 2016 05:55 Shellshock wrote:
I think we were really underrating Dear after game 1
we were basically thinking he couldn't play sc2 anymore
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On October 29 2016 05:55 Shellshock wrote:
I think we were really underrating Dear after game 1
who woulnd't... i still think he can get out of the group though
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