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On September 02 2016 18:35 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 18:34 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:32 Olli wrote:
Dear 4-0 please Not against a Dear win but 4-3 would be better no? No, I don't like Byun at all. Unlike most, I never forgave or forgot. remind me of Byuns wrongdoing(s) pls?
Allowed seed to win a GSL
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On September 02 2016 18:38 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 18:36 Phredxor wrote:On September 02 2016 18:35 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:32 Olli wrote:
Dear 4-0 please Not against a Dear win but 4-3 would be better no? No, I don't like Byun at all. Unlike most, I never forgave or forgot. remind me of Byuns wrongdoing(s) pls? Matchfixing scum. ? I have a list with possible match fixers and Byuns not on it
Wouldn't a list of possible match fixers include every single player?
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Austria24422 Posts
On September 02 2016 18:35 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 18:34 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:32 Olli wrote:
Dear 4-0 please Not against a Dear win but 4-3 would be better no? No, I don't like Byun at all. Unlike most, I never forgave or forgot. remind me of Byuns wrongdoing(s) pls?
Map abuse vs Nestea in GSL and most importantly cheating his way into a GSL spot
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hahaha Byuns style is the eziest terran style to fight against xD im sure he totally meant that. dear looked totally scary in that interview
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France12912 Posts
On September 02 2016 18:28 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 18:26 Poopi wrote:On September 02 2016 18:25 opisska wrote:On September 02 2016 18:22 Poopi wrote:On September 02 2016 18:19 opisska wrote:
Looking at the GSL semis, I can't help but wonder: WTF happened? None of the four names would be me first pick for a GSL winner before the season ... ByuN came out of nowhere this season, Dear was sorta good, but always failing, sOs was always more of a foreignercraft fame (even though he wasn't irrelevant in Korea) and Myungsik has been PL toss filler since ever. ByuN has been the best terran for a while. It even shows on aligulac! Apart from Zest there weren't really any big names to qualify in the first place... Btw, does ByuN qualify for Blizzcon if he goes to the finals, or does he need to win both this match AND the finals in order to qualify? I hope for the former, winning two bo7 TvP in a row after being studied is not something advantageous for the terran usually. No big names? TY, Stats and Dark want a word with you. Dark and Stats are SSL big names, not GSL :p. TY is overrated. Unless the leagues are wrestling-level rigged, I can't see how that matters  TY is as overrated as the whole of KT, which means that while he is seriously overrated, he is still a top player after correcting for that. (Such on observation makes it even harder to comprehend how a team with such star players is gonna be totally demolished tomorrow ...)
Then why is Dark still well performing in SSL yet still absent in GSL?
He is more successful in SSL and it shows.
TY is a top player but there are at least 10-12 as capable as him in the league, so it's not that surprising that he couldn't make it. It was close vs Dear who is a good PL player as well (had him as captain), even though his play seems bad at times he manages to scrap wins when it matters.
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ByuN is slowly moving away from Gyuri
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On September 02 2016 18:36 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 18:35 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:32 Olli wrote:
Dear 4-0 please Not against a Dear win but 4-3 would be better no? No, I don't like Byun at all. Unlike most, I never forgave or forgot. remind me of Byuns wrongdoing(s) pls? Matchfixing scum.
Do you mean when ByuN let his friend Dear go on in SSL instead of Rogue?
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On September 02 2016 18:40 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 18:35 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:32 Olli wrote:
Dear 4-0 please Not against a Dear win but 4-3 would be better no? No, I don't like Byun at all. Unlike most, I never forgave or forgot. remind me of Byuns wrongdoing(s) pls? Map abuse vs Nestea in GSL and most importantly cheating his way into a GSL spot
What? Why? What happened?
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On September 02 2016 18:40 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 18:38 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:36 Phredxor wrote:On September 02 2016 18:35 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:32 Olli wrote:
Dear 4-0 please Not against a Dear win but 4-3 would be better no? No, I don't like Byun at all. Unlike most, I never forgave or forgot. remind me of Byuns wrongdoing(s) pls? Matchfixing scum. ? I have a list with possible match fixers and Byuns not on it Wouldn't a list of possible match fixers include every single player?
Byun didn't even play during the scandal period
you're talking about a silly incident years before I remember vaguely (remind me pls)?
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Austria24422 Posts
On September 02 2016 18:41 JoeCool wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 18:40 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:35 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:32 Olli wrote:
Dear 4-0 please Not against a Dear win but 4-3 would be better no? No, I don't like Byun at all. Unlike most, I never forgave or forgot. remind me of Byuns wrongdoing(s) pls? Map abuse vs Nestea in GSL and most importantly cheating his way into a GSL spot What? Why? What happened?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/285580-coca-forfeits-code-s-due-to-esv-weekly-scandal
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On September 02 2016 18:41 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 18:36 Phredxor wrote:On September 02 2016 18:35 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:32 Olli wrote:
Dear 4-0 please Not against a Dear win but 4-3 would be better no? No, I don't like Byun at all. Unlike most, I never forgave or forgot. remind me of Byuns wrongdoing(s) pls? Matchfixing scum. Do you mean when ByuN let his friend Dear go on in SSL instead of Rogue?
No.
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Stork's shirt is fantastic
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On September 02 2016 18:41 Elentos wrote:
ByuN is slowly moving away from Gyuri
she smells too nice
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On September 02 2016 18:42 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 18:41 JoeCool wrote:On September 02 2016 18:40 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:35 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:32 Olli wrote:
Dear 4-0 please Not against a Dear win but 4-3 would be better no? No, I don't like Byun at all. Unlike most, I never forgave or forgot. remind me of Byuns wrongdoing(s) pls? Map abuse vs Nestea in GSL and most importantly cheating his way into a GSL spot What? Why? What happened? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/285580-coca-forfeits-code-s-due-to-esv-weekly-scandal
Ah! I thought you were talking about this season :X
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On September 02 2016 18:40 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 18:35 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:32 Olli wrote:
Dear 4-0 please Not against a Dear win but 4-3 would be better no? No, I don't like Byun at all. Unlike most, I never forgave or forgot. remind me of Byuns wrongdoing(s) pls? Map abuse vs Nestea in GSL and most importantly cheating his way into a GSL spot
How did he cheat into a GSL spot?
"Map abuse" is a stupid term and nothing to be taken against the players. They are supposed to use the strategy that is most likely to win, it is up to Blizzard and GSL to set up the rules properly. There is no "honourable" way of playing.
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On September 02 2016 18:41 JoeCool wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 18:40 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:35 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:32 Olli wrote:
Dear 4-0 please Not against a Dear win but 4-3 would be better no? No, I don't like Byun at all. Unlike most, I never forgave or forgot. remind me of Byuns wrongdoing(s) pls? Map abuse vs Nestea in GSL and most importantly cheating his way into a GSL spot What? Why? What happened?
He put 3 Bunkers at the lower end of Nesteas Ramp (the map lacked the little destructable element to prevent wall offs at the ramp). So Nestea was locked in his main while Byun roasted the expansion lol
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On September 02 2016 18:41 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 18:28 opisska wrote:On September 02 2016 18:26 Poopi wrote:On September 02 2016 18:25 opisska wrote:On September 02 2016 18:22 Poopi wrote:On September 02 2016 18:19 opisska wrote:
Looking at the GSL semis, I can't help but wonder: WTF happened? None of the four names would be me first pick for a GSL winner before the season ... ByuN came out of nowhere this season, Dear was sorta good, but always failing, sOs was always more of a foreignercraft fame (even though he wasn't irrelevant in Korea) and Myungsik has been PL toss filler since ever. ByuN has been the best terran for a while. It even shows on aligulac! Apart from Zest there weren't really any big names to qualify in the first place... Btw, does ByuN qualify for Blizzcon if he goes to the finals, or does he need to win both this match AND the finals in order to qualify? I hope for the former, winning two bo7 TvP in a row after being studied is not something advantageous for the terran usually. No big names? TY, Stats and Dark want a word with you. Dark and Stats are SSL big names, not GSL :p. TY is overrated. Unless the leagues are wrestling-level rigged, I can't see how that matters TY is as overrated as the whole of KT, which means that while he is seriously overrated, he is still a top player after correcting for that. (Such on observation makes it even harder to comprehend how a team with such star players is gonna be totally demolished tomorrow ...) Then why is Dark still well performing in SSL yet still absent in GSL? He is more successful in SSL and it shows. TY is a top player but there are at least 10-12 as capable as him in the league, so it's not that surprising that he couldn't make it. It was close vs Dear who is a good PL player as well (had him as captain), even though his play seems bad at times he manages to scrap wins when it matters.
I would assume Dark does better in SSL because usually by the time his Ro16 group in GSL happens he's already in the Ro8 for SSL so it's better to focus his practice on that. No reason why he would be inherently better at one than the other, especially since SSL's format is totally different this season than it was last season.
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On September 02 2016 18:41 JoeCool wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 18:40 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:35 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:32 Olli wrote:
Dear 4-0 please Not against a Dear win but 4-3 would be better no? No, I don't like Byun at all. Unlike most, I never forgave or forgot. remind me of Byuns wrongdoing(s) pls? Map abuse vs Nestea in GSL and most importantly cheating his way into a GSL spot What? Why? What happened?
I think he means that thing with Coca in ESV weekly
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/285580-coca-forfeits-code-s-due-to-esv-weekly-scandal
Also the map abuse was when they played Metropolis without the depot at the bottom ramp and Byun bunker-blocked him. Those bunker-rushes where the main reason depots at the ramps got added in the first place
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Australia18228 Posts
On September 02 2016 18:43 Eiltonn wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 18:41 JoeCool wrote:On September 02 2016 18:40 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:35 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:32 Olli wrote:
Dear 4-0 please Not against a Dear win but 4-3 would be better no? No, I don't like Byun at all. Unlike most, I never forgave or forgot. remind me of Byuns wrongdoing(s) pls? Map abuse vs Nestea in GSL and most importantly cheating his way into a GSL spot What? Why? What happened? He put 3 Bunkers at the lower end of Nesteas Ramp (the map lacked the little destructable element to prevent wall offs at the ramp). So Nestea was locked in his main while Byun roasted the expansion lol
Mvp did the same to NesTea on Bel'Shir Beach
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On September 02 2016 18:42 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2016 18:41 JoeCool wrote:On September 02 2016 18:40 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:35 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Olli wrote:On September 02 2016 18:34 Penev wrote:On September 02 2016 18:32 Olli wrote:
Dear 4-0 please Not against a Dear win but 4-3 would be better no? No, I don't like Byun at all. Unlike most, I never forgave or forgot. remind me of Byuns wrongdoing(s) pls? Map abuse vs Nestea in GSL and most importantly cheating his way into a GSL spot What? Why? What happened? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/285580-coca-forfeits-code-s-due-to-esv-weekly-scandal
yeah, that's the one, I almost forgot
still, people deserve a second chance in my world
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