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Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

August 14 2016 00:27 GMT

#3221

On August 14 2016 09:26 Alchemik wrote:
FUCK AMERICA

it's Summer Olympic season. You're done

riotjune

United States3394 Posts

August 14 2016 00:27 GMT

#3222

dafuq...

Topin

Peru10103 Posts

August 14 2016 00:27 GMT

#3223

drogo trying to die

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

August 14 2016 00:27 GMT

#3224

Polt is about to go Jason Lezak on Drogo

Penev

28512 Posts

August 14 2016 00:28 GMT

#3225

On August 14 2016 09:27 KtJ wrote:
DROGO'S HEAD HAS HIT THE TABLE

HE'S ALMOST UPSIDE DOWN NOW

Makro

France16890 Posts

August 14 2016 00:28 GMT

#3226

drogo's tilt are actually quite entertaining, specially against a top tier player and in a close series

Paljas

Germany6926 Posts

August 14 2016 00:28 GMT

#3227

On August 14 2016 09:27 Shellshock wrote:
Polt is about to go Jason Lezak on Drogo

literally who?

Phredxor

New Zealand15076 Posts

August 14 2016 00:28 GMT

#3228

I wish Wolf was casting this series.

Elentos

55566 Posts

August 14 2016 00:28 GMT

#3229

I was looking at Drogo attacking the planetary and was going "DON'T DO IT! DON'T DO IT!" and he shaded and blinked on top of Polt's army...

Drogo pls

Superbanana

2369 Posts

August 14 2016 00:28 GMT

#3230

Oh wait, polt is far ahead. I cannot starcraft anymore lol

Cricketer12

United States13990 Posts

August 14 2016 00:29 GMT

#3231

these two are trying their hardest to answer the question of Libs and Adepts

intotheheart

Canada33091 Posts

August 14 2016 00:29 GMT

#3232

On August 14 2016 09:28 Superbanana wrote:
Oh wait, polt is far ahead. I cannot starcraft anymore lol

He's good at splitting his army.

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

August 14 2016 00:29 GMT

#3233

On August 14 2016 09:28 Paljas wrote:

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literally who?

American who destroys French

[PkF] Wire

France24238 Posts

August 14 2016 00:29 GMT

#3234

how can the supplies be so uneven, macro Drogo for God's sake

Phredxor

New Zealand15076 Posts

August 14 2016 00:29 GMT

#3235

On August 14 2016 09:28 Paljas wrote:

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literally who?

Murican swimmer who rekt a french swimmer.

Elentos

55566 Posts

August 14 2016 00:29 GMT

#3236

On August 14 2016 09:28 Penev wrote:

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HE'S ALMOST UPSIDE DOWN NOW

So he is less tilted than Trust after 5-0 into 0-5

Thrillz

4313 Posts

August 14 2016 00:29 GMT

#3237

Polt's been way ahead but doesn't kill Drogo

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

August 14 2016 00:29 GMT

#3238

Drogo needs to max out if he wants to win- but if he can get sizable amount of tempests without polt getting out ghosts, i think he has a good shot with good control

Paljas

Germany6926 Posts

August 14 2016 00:29 GMT

#3239

On August 14 2016 09:29 Shellshock wrote:

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American who destroys French

ah, this one guy who was like 70 years old and still beat the french superstar, right?

The_Red_Viper

19533 Posts

August 14 2016 00:30 GMT

#3240

On August 14 2016 09:22 Nebuchad wrote:

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On August 14 2016 09:20 The_Red_Viper wrote:

On August 14 2016 09:17 Nebuchad wrote:

On August 14 2016 09:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:

On August 14 2016 09:03 Nebuchad wrote:

On August 14 2016 08:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:

On August 14 2016 08:50 Nebuchad wrote:

On August 14 2016 08:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:

On August 14 2016 08:39 Nebuchad wrote:

On August 14 2016 08:36 Kerence wrote:
[quote]
I meant it goes without saying that:
[quote] as in me personally not liking it.

And there might be less complaining about it if there were still Koreans at weekend tournaments, but who knows.

Honestly though, is there really that much complaining to begin with really, are you sure that it isn't just a few vocal people? Just like there used to be a few people who posted stuff like "Oh, only Koreans left in the tournament, time to stop watching." back then.

If nobody speaks against them, then "a few vocal people" become the voice of the community.

So I'm speaking against them.

The truth is that it feels more "welfare" than last year because there are more tournaments where this region locking actually applies. Last year we had three seasons which are these championships now, additionally we now have other "weekend" wcs tournaments region locked as well. That wasn't a thing last year. That's the reason people shout these statements. Another truth is (probably) that if it wasn't for that region lock we probably wouldn't have sc2 at any dreamhack/IEM this year.

There aren't more tournaments where it applies, there are less tournaments where it doesn't apply.

Obviously the whole system changed and weekend tournaments is all what is left of wcs, but looking at it from the "more region locked tournaments" pov is totally valid.

This sentence explains why it isn't valid, then concludes that it is valid anyway...

Because it is. What really changed is basically three wcs seasons becoming three championships AND the rest of weekend tournaments deciding to region lock (they were part of wcs last season as well).
Foreigners got more "region locked stuff" to play in, koreans got less tournaments to play in. That's what actually happened.

Again, the WCS system is gone, as you said. What you see this year is a replacement, not an accumulation. Koreans got less tournaments to play in, but foreigners didn't get more to play in, they just got a different set of tournaments. There was more WCS foreigner content last year than there is this year.

I simply tried to explain why people say these things. From an outside look all the weekend tournaments which weren't region locked last year are region locked now. And yeah sure there was more last year because they were more totally open wcs tournaments last year, but that's not the point, is it?

And I explained to you why people are wrong to say it: because it takes this lack of global tournaments and pretends it's an overflow in foreigner only tournaments, which it is not.

If you look at it and say: hey the region locked wcs system last year got changed to a lot of region locked tournaments this year and there simply is a lack of global tournaments (which were standard last year) or if you say: hey the wcs system last year changed to region locked championships and all the global events got changed to region locked weekend tournaments (but are less than last year). Both povs are valid and represent how the current system works.

You simply decide to phrase it the first way.

The truth is that we got less weekends tournaments (no matter if "global" or not) and more region locked tournaments as a result (even though the structure is different). We also got less korean starleagues.

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