• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:32
CEST 08:32
KST 15:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"7ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!35Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)106
StarCraft 2
General
3kb/s downloading patch..... are we back to 1998? Terran or Protoss Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Looking for NASL Season 1 VODs
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool ASL22 General Discussion Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
2v2v2v2 Tournament Star Con San Diego 2026 Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9394 users

[WCS] Summer Tour DreamHack Montreal 2016 - Page 140

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 138 139 140 141 142 274 Next
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
August 13 2016 23:16 GMT
#2781
On August 14 2016 08:15 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:13 Vertigro wrote:
Only just starting watching starcraft again since the days of HoTS. Adepts are fucking broken right?

HotS, eh?

Remember blink all-ins on Yeonsu?

you say that as if they were a bad thing, but they gave us Billowy v Flash
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 13 2016 23:16 GMT
#2782
Adepts lol
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12487 Posts
August 13 2016 23:16 GMT
#2783
On August 14 2016 08:10 Kerence wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:04 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:02 Kerence wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:00 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:55 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:51 sabas123 wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
[quote]
Yes. And one peak player among one hundred weaker players will win most of the time, but the 100 other players will not be able to improve.

If there would be like 25 koreans on 100 foreigners, foreigners would improve in the long run.

That's simply not true. You don't need these way better players dropped into your scene to improve it. A scene has to start somewhere and if there are enough players in that scene willing to compete and motivated to get better than the whole scene will get better in the long run.
Korea got to where it's at right now because some guys started it, not because some aliens dropped there training them.

You will always have better and worse players in a scene and as long as the worse players are motivated to catch up the whole scene will get better.

Koreans are the fastest at improving, but catching up is definitely a lot easier when somebody can show you how to play.

You don't let phelps swim vs 6 year old children and expect from them to be motivated to beat him. You let them compete vs each other where the competition is actually fair.
Yes i compared foreigners to 6 year olds


Phelps is never going to come here. He still wins against the best, he doesn't need to go to the 6-year-olds pool.

This is an argument FOR region locking btw, i am on your side


I'm against any form of region locking. I dislike how this community is mad for letting Blizzard change the 92% lock to a 96% lock and is now shitting on foreigners because of that meaningless change, when it was the same community that pushed to get us to the 92% lock in the first place.

Why would it be the same people who pushed for region lock that are now complaining about it?


They aren't. People aren't pushing for a return to 2013, they're pushing for a return to 2015, which is senseless. There is no rational reason to be mad at 2016 if you were fine with 2015.

Eh, personally at least I watched some of the WCS games in 2015. I haven't even bothered to watch most of the weekend tournaments outside of a few specific players I care about in 2016. I've even been skipping the finals lately. This DH is probably the most I've watched a WCS tournament this year. I'd say 2015 was better.


Well, you do yourself. But there is still no rational reason why watching an event with 7 koreans is inherently better than watching an event with 4 koreans.
No will to live, no wish to die
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2016 23:16 GMT
#2784
On August 14 2016 08:15 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:13 Vertigro wrote:
Only just starting watching starcraft again since the days of HoTS. Adepts are fucking broken right?

HotS, eh?

Remember blink all-ins on Yeonsu?


I remember immortal trains on overgrowth

and bl/infestor on daybreak

immortal all-in on Overgrowth wasn't that hard to hold
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
August 13 2016 23:16 GMT
#2785
On August 14 2016 08:15 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:13 Vertigro wrote:
Only just starting watching starcraft again since the days of HoTS. Adepts are fucking broken right?

HotS, eh?

Remember blink all-ins on Yeonsu?


Heavy Rain anyone?
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 13 2016 23:16 GMT
#2786
On August 14 2016 08:16 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:13 Vertigro wrote:
Only just starting watching starcraft again since the days of HoTS. Adepts are fucking broken right?

HotS, eh?

Remember blink all-ins on Yeonsu?


Heavy Rain anyone?

There's a lot of heavy rain outside my window. Feels good to have it.
kiss kiss fall in love
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
August 13 2016 23:16 GMT
#2787
On August 14 2016 08:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:12 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:10 TheDougler wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:08 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:05 TheDougler wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:02 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:01 TheDougler wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:59 Penev wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:58 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:57 Penev wrote:
[quote]
i do post shit

Elentos
Shellshock
GumBa
Ej_
penev
Cricketer12

Anyone else to nominate?

Hm.. Noonius?


Honestly? Nerchio's LR game has been pretty strong. Credit where credit is due.

Elentos
Shellshock
GumBa
Ej_
penev
Cricketer12
Nerchio
Noonius
IntoTheheart
Current nominations.
die4ever contributes way too much for me to want to nominate him, so I guess it's The_Templar's turn?


I feel like I'd be one of those guys who somehow gets onto the powerrank since SOMEBODY'S gotta be the worst of the the bunch, and I'd get a sentence or two, keeners would be like "oh yeah Dougler is a person" most would be like nope, never heard of him. And then they'd move on to the next person, but meanwhile I'd be beaming and be like buddies check it! I made the TLLR Power Rank! And they'd be like "what's this?!" And I'd be like "ONLY THE MOST EPIC SHITPOSTING POWER RANK RELATED TO SC2" and they'd be like "oh... I guess that's a thing". And just like that my life would have meaning.

Sure. I'm also game to add on SetGuitarsToKill.


Oh for sure. SGTK way outranks me. Dude's a LR legend. I wonder if he's actually AT this Dreamhack since he's not in this thread and I think he's from Ontario or Quebec somewhere.

check his twitter, he's already gotten selfies with Scarlett, Tasteless and ZG

I just had dinner with a few of them too


The man, the myth, the legend himself!!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-13 23:18:20
August 13 2016 23:17 GMT
#2788
Elentos
Shellshock
GumBa
Ej_
penev
Cricketer12
Nerchio
Noonius
IntoTheheart
TheDougler
SetGuitarsToKill
Swag_Bro

So this is the final list? If I've missed anyone, please let me know. I won't be including guys like Konadora or TDL because they were definitely before my time.
kiss kiss fall in love
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
August 13 2016 23:17 GMT
#2789
This is gonna be like Tours. "I'll win easy!" oes the same thing 3 games in a row and gets wrecked*
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
August 13 2016 23:17 GMT
#2790
I feel like swag bro is the kind of guy who has caught all 151 Kanto pokemon in Pokemon Go even though Ditto and the legendaries haven't come out yet
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
August 13 2016 23:18 GMT
#2791
Cloudy skies
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55591 Posts
August 13 2016 23:18 GMT
#2792
On August 14 2016 08:15 Vertigro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:13 Vertigro wrote:
Only just starting watching starcraft again since the days of HoTS. Adepts are fucking broken right?

HotS, eh?

Remember blink all-ins on Yeonsu?


Vividly!

That's about how adept all-ins feel
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12487 Posts
August 13 2016 23:19 GMT
#2793
On August 14 2016 08:17 Cricketer12 wrote:
I feel like swag bro is the kind of guy who has caught all 151 Kanto pokemon in Pokemon Go even though Ditto and the legendaries haven't come out yet


My first response to this was, "life hacks".

Then I realized you don't need a life to do that.

Or hacks.
No will to live, no wish to die
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-13 23:19:52
August 13 2016 23:19 GMT
#2794
Can I say something though? I really miss Neoghaleon55 (I think his name was something like that. World's biggest DRG fan), and also Gheed (of probe rush fame). I still check to see if Gheed has a new blog out every now and then.

Edit: They were from the earlier days. But still, in terms of legacy, they're up there.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
lelfreg
Profile Joined December 2014
92 Posts
August 13 2016 23:19 GMT
#2795
On August 14 2016 08:16 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:13 Vertigro wrote:
Only just starting watching starcraft again since the days of HoTS. Adepts are fucking broken right?

HotS, eh?

Remember blink all-ins on Yeonsu?


Heavy Rain anyone?


Have we all forgot about Star Station?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-13 23:20:17
August 13 2016 23:19 GMT
#2796
On August 14 2016 08:17 IntoTheheart wrote:
Elentos
Shellshock
GumBa
Ej_
penev
Cricketer12
Nerchio
Noonius
IntoTheheart
TheDougler
SetGuitarsToKill
Swag_Bro

So this is the final list? If I've missed anyone, please let me know. I won't be including guys like Konadora or TDL because they were definitely before my time.

swag_bro wins this ez

his name is with a small s and mine with a capital P btw

Edit: and a small b
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Vertigro
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom261 Posts
August 13 2016 23:19 GMT
#2797
On August 14 2016 08:18 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:15 Vertigro wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:13 Vertigro wrote:
Only just starting watching starcraft again since the days of HoTS. Adepts are fucking broken right?

HotS, eh?

Remember blink all-ins on Yeonsu?


Vividly!

That's about how adept all-ins feel


You have answered my question and more haha
"..." - Greg 'IdrA' Fields +++ DeMuslim, Naniwa, Jaedong, Hero, Suppy! <3 <3
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55591 Posts
August 13 2016 23:19 GMT
#2798
On August 14 2016 08:16 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:15 las91 wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:13 Vertigro wrote:
Only just starting watching starcraft again since the days of HoTS. Adepts are fucking broken right?

HotS, eh?

Remember blink all-ins on Yeonsu?


I remember immortal trains on overgrowth

and bl/infestor on daybreak

immortal all-in on Overgrowth wasn't that hard to hold

I think that was like the only win in 14 games for Solar in Proleague last year

I think immortal all-ins on Overgrowth must have been bad
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12487 Posts
August 13 2016 23:20 GMT
#2799
On August 14 2016 08:13 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 08:10 Arvendilin wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:08 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:07 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:06 Elentos wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:04 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:02 Kerence wrote:
On August 14 2016 08:00 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:57 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:55 Nebuchad wrote:
[quote]

Phelps is never going to come here. He still wins against the best, he doesn't need to go to the 6-year-olds pool.

This is an argument FOR region locking btw, i am on your side


I'm against any form of region locking. I dislike how this community is mad for letting Blizzard change the 92% lock to a 96% lock and is now shitting on foreigners because of that meaningless change, when it was the same community that pushed to get us to the 92% lock in the first place.

Why would it be the same people who pushed for region lock that are now complaining about it?


They aren't. People aren't pushing for a return to 2013, they're pushing for a return to 2015, which is senseless. There is no rational reason to be mad at 2016 if you were fine with 2015.

In 2015 Koreans were still allowed at weekenders though, they're not the same.


So we could use this community's wonderful voice to pressure the organizers into having more global events. Your problem is solved.

We could convince them to have more small invitationals. But not global WCS events. Those are too expensive.

Well if we are going to use the communities voice to bully, why not bully err pressure them into just lowering the requirements and then having like 3-4 global events, some of the IEMs could be global events if you just lower the extreme and unachieveable requirements

We can pressure for invitationals this year, we can only pressure for a requirement change for next year.


Would be easier to do if this was the message of the community, instead of "foreigners suck, welfare, Blizzard sucks blblbl", which I'm not sure is making Dreamhack and ESL reconsider very hard their decision to do less SC2 in the first place
No will to live, no wish to die
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
August 13 2016 23:20 GMT
#2800
On August 14 2016 08:19 TheDougler wrote:
Neoghaleon55 ( World's biggest DRG fan).

you take that back...
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Prev 1 138 139 140 141 142 274 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 28m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft676
Nina 111
Trikslyr26
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 4176
Leta 172
Mind 121
Tasteless 58
ZergMaN 45
sSak 36
Nal_rA 29
yabsab 27
Icarus 8
Light 0
League of Legends
JimRising 677
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1030
minikerr53
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King158
Other Games
summit1g5981
C9.Mang0286
Hui .127
NeuroSwarm120
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick433
BasetradeTV55
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH269
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki17
• iopq 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2525
League of Legends
• Lourlo1646
• Stunt896
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3h 28m
INu's Battles
4h 28m
Cure vs herO
ByuN vs Rogue
PiGosaur Cup
17h 28m
The PondCast
1d 3h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 4h
Patches Events
1d 9h
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Escore
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Acropolis #5 - TRS
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.