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Poll: Triple-header Hype?Hype (13) 100% 13 total votes Your vote: Triple-header Hype? (Vote): Hype
Poll: Who wins?KT Rolster (13) 81% Afreeca (3) 19% 16 total votes Your vote: Who wins? (Vote): KT Rolster
(Vote): Afreeca
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SGTK with the passion. Nice!
Lets go KT. Lock in that 2nd place for finals!
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Hope Stats and Zest play a bit better than what they've been doing as of late in their PvPs, otherwise we could really have an upset
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Gogo KT, get that first place !
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This time I'm cheering for KT, even if i dont do that usually. MVP in the playoffs would make that worth it.
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They were quick on their downwards arrow on Stats.
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At least foreigners are better at predictions than Koreans. Take that!
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fuck, have to go.
tell me how ty vs curious was when i get back.
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On July 10 2016 18:06 Pyloss wrote:
This time I'm cheering for KT, even if i dont do that usually. MVP in the playoffs would make that worth it.
yeah I want more Gumigod
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Pls don't bring up KeSPAcup unless there is going to be one. It hurts.
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On July 10 2016 18:10 Phredxor wrote:
Pls don't bring up KeSPAcup unless there is going to be one. It hurts.
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that's some super quick 3rd
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Pls don't die to this TY.
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Curios you sexy boy!!! All-in inc!!
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TY no
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Didn't siege early enough
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Why wasn't the first tank sieged ? the second one just came out, but the first one has no excuse
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Poll: TY vs CuriousExcellent Game (0) 0% Great Game (2) 17% Okay Game (4) 33% Meh Game (6) 50% Bad Game (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: TY vs Curious (Vote): Excellent Game
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wow Curious with the upset, nice read on TY
now KT are in a really incomfortable spot
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Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
Oh boy TY... So many people were sure you had this one -.-
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Queen OP confirmed!! That felt good!
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Questionable defending from TY, I feel like with decent Medivac micro he could've hold that.
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Come on, TY. Should expect shit like that.
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TY you dipshit why didn't you siege when you saw the empty 3rd? -.-
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Curious casually murdering my FPL
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On July 10 2016 18:14 Durnuu wrote:
Why wasn't the first tank sieged ? the second one just came out, but the first one has no excuse
Microing his drop on other side of the map or something. I dunno. Stupid greedy play. Just play normal and you crush Curious.
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On July 10 2016 18:15 Teoita wrote:Curious casually murdering my FPL
I have Curious + Gumiho on my anti
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On July 10 2016 18:15 HolydaKing wrote:
Questionable defending from TY, I feel like with decent Medivac micro he could've hold that.
He only had 1 medivac for 2 tanks and he microd that about as well as anyone could have
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On July 10 2016 18:15 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:14 Durnuu wrote:
Why wasn't the first tank sieged ? the second one just came out, but the first one has no excuse Microing his drop on other side of the map or something. I dunno. Stupid greedy play. Just play normal and you crush Curious.
let's give credit to Curious though, he hid his all-in very very well
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On July 10 2016 18:15 Teoita wrote:Curious casually murdering my FPL
Yeah, i'm still top 20 but without Curious destroying me i'd be much better
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Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
On July 10 2016 18:16 [PkF] Wire wrote:I have Curious + Gumiho on my anti
GUMIHO ON YOUR ANTI?! Wow...
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On July 10 2016 18:15 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:14 Durnuu wrote:
Why wasn't the first tank sieged ? the second one just came out, but the first one has no excuse Stupid greedy play. Just play normal and you crush Curious.
People should realise that sometimes they are clearly better than the other guy, who will be more likely to cheese because of it, and should therefore play safe. This should've been obvious in TY vs Curious.
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On July 10 2016 18:16 [PkF] Wire wrote:I have Curious + Gumiho on my anti
Gumiho on anti is never a good idea.
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On July 10 2016 18:16 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:15 HolydaKing wrote:
Questionable defending from TY, I feel like with decent Medivac micro he could've hold that. He only had 1 medivac for 2 tanks and he microd that about as well as anyone could have
yeah the micro was good he was just caught totally unaware
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On July 10 2016 18:16 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:15 HolydaKing wrote:
Questionable defending from TY, I feel like with decent Medivac micro he could've hold that. He only had 1 medivac for 2 tanks and he microd that about as well as anyone could have
You think? He let his tanks get hit a lot and die really early, I feel like he could've saved one for quite a while.
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curious is also really good at macrogames, usually his defeats come from bad defense against timingpushes or allins
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On July 10 2016 18:16 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:15 Phredxor wrote:On July 10 2016 18:14 Durnuu wrote:
Why wasn't the first tank sieged ? the second one just came out, but the first one has no excuse Microing his drop on other side of the map or something. I dunno. Stupid greedy play. Just play normal and you crush Curious. let's give credit to Curious though, he hid his all-in very very well
Yeah it was a smart all-in for sure. But I just don't know why TY even went so greedy. Curious is decidedly average in LotV. Just go standard and he'd win 90% of the time.
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On July 10 2016 18:16 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:16 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 18:15 Teoita wrote:Curious casually murdering my FPL I have Curious + Gumiho on my anti GUMIHO ON YOUR ANTI?! Wow...
I didn't think his form would last. I was totally wrong, but I'm happy with that, I love him.
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On July 10 2016 18:17 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:16 Elentos wrote:On July 10 2016 18:15 HolydaKing wrote:
Questionable defending from TY, I feel like with decent Medivac micro he could've hold that. He only had 1 medivac for 2 tanks and he microd that about as well as anyone could have You think? He let his tanks get hit a lot and die really early, I feel like he could've saved one for quite a while.
Yes. He took damage on the siege time which he couldn't avoid, and then any time he micros one tank with the medivac, the other one takes damage. Plus it's speedlings, they can get on top of medivacs easily, so even dropping them out anywhere in his own base was difficult to begin with.
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On July 10 2016 18:17 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:16 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 18:15 Phredxor wrote:On July 10 2016 18:14 Durnuu wrote:
Why wasn't the first tank sieged ? the second one just came out, but the first one has no excuse Microing his drop on other side of the map or something. I dunno. Stupid greedy play. Just play normal and you crush Curious. let's give credit to Curious though, he hid his all-in very very well Yeah it was a smart all-in for sure. But I just don't know why TY even went so greedy. Curious is decidedly average in LotV. Just go standard and he'd win 90% of the time.
Map was Dusk Towers. Known well for standard 3 base macro play from all races. TY just assumed Curious was playing standard.
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On July 10 2016 18:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:16 Seeker wrote:On July 10 2016 18:16 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 18:15 Teoita wrote:Curious casually murdering my FPL I have Curious + Gumiho on my anti GUMIHO ON YOUR ANTI?! Wow... I didn't think his form would last. I was totally wrong, but I'm happy with that, I love him.
Gumiho is a team league monster IIRC..
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On July 10 2016 18:19 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 18:16 Seeker wrote:On July 10 2016 18:16 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 18:15 Teoita wrote:Curious casually murdering my FPL I have Curious + Gumiho on my anti GUMIHO ON YOUR ANTI?! Wow... I didn't think his form would last. I was totally wrong, but I'm happy with that, I love him. Gumiho is a team league monster IIRC..
as of late he's far more than that. If you ask me he's a title contender with his current form.
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On July 10 2016 18:17 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:16 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 18:15 Phredxor wrote:On July 10 2016 18:14 Durnuu wrote:
Why wasn't the first tank sieged ? the second one just came out, but the first one has no excuse Microing his drop on other side of the map or something. I dunno. Stupid greedy play. Just play normal and you crush Curious. let's give credit to Curious though, he hid his all-in very very well Yeah it was a smart all-in for sure. But I just don't know why TY even went so greedy. Curious is decidedly average in LotV. Just go standard and he'd win 90% of the time.
His build was fine if he scouts the all-in or just gets a good read, i.e. sieges his tanks when he sees the empty 3rd base. He actually had enough units to hold, but one drop was on the other side of the map and the other half wasn't ready for a bust.
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Cultural differences are so funny. Asian women show up to 90% of their legs but completely hide their top half while European women show 50% of their bust and wear jeans/trousers/pants most of the time.
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Also usually TY would have made a liberator, not a viking. Liberators are pretty good against baneling busts.
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Patience build is really weird
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Oracle and stalker push. Uh oh.
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OK HOW DID CURIOUS WIN A ZVT
rip fpl
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On July 10 2016 18:27 Ej_ wrote:
OK HOW DID CURIOUS WIN A ZVT
rip fpl
Baneling bust
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Patience still can't micro
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On July 10 2016 18:27 Ej_ wrote:
OK HOW DID CURIOUS WIN A ZVT
rip fpl
bane bust after killing the reaper
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Poor micro from Patience.
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Stats will just counter all-in and roll
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oh oh nice pick-up
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followed by terrible micro and losing the warp prism wtf Stats
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Patience is actually behind, but not dead
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Stats stopped making immos
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yeah ok he's dead now
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Poll: Stats vs PatienceExcellent Game (0) 0% Great Game (0) 0% Okay Game (5) 50% Meh Game (4) 40% Bad Game (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Stats vs Patience (Vote): Excellent Game
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On July 10 2016 18:31 Heartland wrote:
Stats stopped making immos
but Patience did too so it didn't matter
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Okay, we're back. As it should be.
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On July 10 2016 18:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:but Patience did too so it didn't matter
Even if he had like 3 immortals, they suck vs that many adepts.
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Cmon Zest. Time to stop slacking and destroy Super.
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On July 10 2016 18:32 Phredxor wrote:Nice to see all races can get adepted equally
you can use glaive adepts to close out a game after getting an advantage in the early game in PvP but not much else, they scale very bad vs immortals archons etc
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On July 10 2016 18:32 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 18:31 Heartland wrote:
Stats stopped making immos but Patience did too so it didn't matter Even if he had like 3 immortals, they suck vs adepts.
i guess you're right
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I wonnder why no one gives a shit about disruptor anymore.
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On July 10 2016 18:32 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 18:31 Heartland wrote:
Stats stopped making immos but Patience did too so it didn't matter Even if he had like 3 immortals, they suck vs adepts.
adepts are not generally very good vs P, it worked because Stats was so far ahead ; from an equal position the guy with immortals just warps in some adepts to tank the other guy adepts and rolls (because indeed if the numbers are overwhelming immos begin to struggle)
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On July 10 2016 18:34 seemsgood wrote:
I wonnder why no one gives a shit about disruptor anymore.
Adept timings hit before that, chargelot/archon/immortal can get phoenixes and hit a timing before a critical mass of blink stalker/disruptor is on the field
edit: i wouldnt count out these adept builds so easily, they can be good even if you're behind but catch the other guy off guard or with a bad unit comp against it, like Zest vs MC. I think they might be a good timing to go for reactively in a lot of spots.
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I guess we could get an ace match here
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Stats 6-0 this round, downward arrow because of GSL.
TY 3-3 this round, upward arrow because of ???
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On July 10 2016 18:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I guess we could get an ace match here
Zest needs to win to bring it to ace. Wouldn't expect Losira to beat aLive.
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On July 10 2016 18:35 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:34 seemsgood wrote:
I wonnder why no one gives a shit about disruptor anymore. Adept timings hit before that, chargelot/archon/immortal can get phoenixes and hit a timing before a critical mass of blink stalker/disruptor is on the field
I even think a handful of phoenix + chargelot immortal archon is a better composition overall than blink disruptor if you micro right, you don't even necessarily need to aim for a timing
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On July 10 2016 18:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I guess we could get an ace match here
And TY gets a chance to redeem himself
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On July 10 2016 18:35 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:34 seemsgood wrote:
I wonnder why no one gives a shit about disruptor anymore. Adept timings hit before that, chargelot/archon/immortal can get phoenixes and hit a timing before a critical mass of blink stalker/disruptor is on the field edit: i wouldnt count out these adept builds so easily, they can be good even if you're behind but catch the other guy off guard or with a bad unit comp against it, like Zest vs MC. I think they might be a good timing to go for reactively in a lot of spots.
Just theorycrafting it could be interesting as a counter to people building up their immo counts blindly.
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On July 10 2016 18:36 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I guess we could get an ace match here Zest needs to win to bring it to ace. Wouldn't expect Losira to beat aLive.
yeah it's tough but it's possible
and anyway maybe the patch turned Losira into a bonjwa
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On July 10 2016 18:36 Elentos wrote:
Stats 6-0 this round, downward arrow because of GSL.
TY 3-3 this round, upward arrow because of ???
Terran bias
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On July 10 2016 18:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:35 Teoita wrote:On July 10 2016 18:34 seemsgood wrote:
I wonnder why no one gives a shit about disruptor anymore. Adept timings hit before that, chargelot/archon/immortal can get phoenixes and hit a timing before a critical mass of blink stalker/disruptor is on the field I even think a handful of phoenix + chargelot immortal archon is a better composition overall than blink disruptor if you micro right, you don't even necessarily need to aim for a timing
Yeah you need to not micro your phoenixes like Hush if you do that.
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You better win this zest.Or your birthday means nothing.
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Do nexus first builds work in LotV?
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Super and his nexus first shenanigans on Frost, man.
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On July 10 2016 18:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:35 Teoita wrote:On July 10 2016 18:34 seemsgood wrote:
I wonnder why no one gives a shit about disruptor anymore. Adept timings hit before that, chargelot/archon/immortal can get phoenixes and hit a timing before a critical mass of blink stalker/disruptor is on the field I even think a handful of phoenix + chargelot immortal archon is a better composition overall than blink disruptor if you micro right, you don't even necessarily need to aim for a timing
I feel like if you fight around 200 supply it's hard for the phoenixes to keep the disruptors from murdering your army, especially if he also has archons. I personally have never lost a fight at 140/170 supply with that composition though, it's absolutely brutal
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I'm curious to see how Zest will react to that cheeky scouted Nexus first
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On July 10 2016 18:39 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 18:35 Teoita wrote:On July 10 2016 18:34 seemsgood wrote:
I wonnder why no one gives a shit about disruptor anymore. Adept timings hit before that, chargelot/archon/immortal can get phoenixes and hit a timing before a critical mass of blink stalker/disruptor is on the field I even think a handful of phoenix + chargelot immortal archon is a better composition overall than blink disruptor if you micro right, you don't even necessarily need to aim for a timing I feel like if you fight around 200 supply it's hard for the phoenixes to keep the disruptors from murdering your army, especially if he also has archons. I personally have never lost a fight at 140/170 supply with that composition though, it's absolutely brutal
yeah same if the guy goes for disruptors I make two stargates and feel very very confident
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On July 10 2016 18:39 sharkie wrote:
Do nexus first builds work in LotV?
I don't think I have ever seen nexus first build work reliably.
And protoss do them since BW.
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Zest is like giving a textbook lesson on how to murder Nexus first without even having to go for some proxy all-in
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On July 10 2016 18:43 Heartland wrote:
pretty bad for Super
when behind...
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why not proxy the shrine? There are so many fliers around
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Zest has double robo on 2 bases ? This is strange right ?
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Oh wtf he has cannons. Nvm.
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I didn't expect Super to recover that well, he's actually in an OK position
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that glaive value vs archon immortal
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Poll: Zest vs SuperExcellent Game (0) 0% Great Game (2) 22% Okay Game (6) 67% Meh Game (1) 11% Bad Game (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: Zest vs Super (Vote): Excellent Game
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Azubu pls. Crashed as Zest was moving in.
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Was a bit worried for Zest there, being attacked from all sides. Glad it worked out.
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On July 10 2016 18:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
why +1 armor btw ?
Zest always does this, I'm not sure about the math behind it.
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curious, super on anti, classic on main... the gods hate me
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so Zest now got his 100 win in PL as well
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On July 10 2016 18:49 WGT-Baal wrote:
curious, super on anti, classic on main... the gods hate me
I also have Super on anti... I'm glad he finally lost a game lol.
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On July 10 2016 18:49 Elentos wrote:Zest always does this, I'm not sure about the math behind it.
it's questionable I guess but Zest probably knows better. Thing is he didn't even wait for it to finish so it's not even like he intends to hit a quicker 1-1 timing than a 2-0 timing. Mysterious.
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On July 10 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:49 Elentos wrote:On July 10 2016 18:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
why +1 armor btw ? Zest always does this, I'm not sure about the math behind it. it's questionable I guess but Zest probably knows better. Thing is he didn't even wait for it to finish so it's not even like he intends to hit a quicker 1-1 timing than a 2-0 timing. Mysterious.
Well he already had 2-0
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On July 10 2016 18:51 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 18:49 Elentos wrote:On July 10 2016 18:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
why +1 armor btw ? Zest always does this, I'm not sure about the math behind it. it's questionable I guess but Zest probably knows better. Thing is he didn't even wait for it to finish so it's not even like he intends to hit a quicker 1-1 timing than a 2-0 timing. Mysterious. Well he already had 2-0
oh ok
that kinda explains why Super's stuff melted so hard, he was just super far behind on upgrades + his ugly positioning -he probably didn't expect Zest to attack from that angle.
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If Tasteless wins the vote he's a based god
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That hatch first gets an ovation.
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if it gets to ace who gets picked to play ? Do we get a Zest - Super rematch ?
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So what Wolf is saying is he didn't watch GSL season 1 this year.
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On July 10 2016 18:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:
if it gets to ace who gets picked to play ? Do we get a Zest - Super rematch ?
Zest - Curious. Stats misses out again.
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On July 10 2016 18:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:
if it gets to ace who gets picked to play ? Do we get a Zest - Super rematch ?
Zest vs Patience
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On July 10 2016 18:56 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:
if it gets to ace who gets picked to play ? Do we get a Zest - Super rematch ? Zest - Curious. Stats misses out again.
The map is Overgrowth so I think Stats has a better chance than usual.
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I am not following the standings very closely, are the teams more or less locked in for the final playoffs or are there any which have a shot to go in or out?
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On July 10 2016 18:58 Heartland wrote:
I am not following the standings very closely, are the teams more or less locked in for the final playoffs or are there any which have a shot to go in or out?
KT is locked but Afreeca needs to win to get to the playoffs
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On July 10 2016 18:58 Heartland wrote:
I am not following the standings very closely, are the teams more or less locked in for the final playoffs or are there any which have a shot to go in or out?
Jin Air, KT and CJ are locked in. (only need to determine who is first, second etc.)
Afreeca and MVP are fighting for the 4th. If Afreeca wins, they are in, if they lose, they are out
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On July 10 2016 18:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 18:58 Heartland wrote:
I am not following the standings very closely, are the teams more or less locked in for the final playoffs or are there any which have a shot to go in or out? KT is locked but Afreeca needs to win to get to the playoffs
Thanks
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haaaaaaa he lost the imba queens droplord
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Losira got a bit too greedy with this attack. He should have checked the 3rd.
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Losing those queens was clutch for aLive.
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losira stop being so stupid and win
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so in HotS this would be over, but Legacy mules aren't very good
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4 lings to the third and Losira would have won easily, right?
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...that could have been done better by Losira...
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aLive should be able to win it even with his low scvs count
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On July 10 2016 19:00 sharkie wrote:
4 lings to the third and Losira would have won easily, right?
Probably.
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I see the point with triple cc but I think alive is in a shitty situation
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The only good thing for Losira is that stim wasn't done yet.
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On July 10 2016 19:01 Heartland wrote:
I see the point with triple cc but I think alive is in a shitty situation
rly ? I think he's winning with that push
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On July 10 2016 19:01 Heartland wrote:
I see the point with triple cc but I think alive is in a shitty situation
he got 1/1 and stim almost done and Losira had no 3rd
e: now this is effectively over
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Poll: Losira vs aLiveExcellent Game (0) 0% Great Game (4) 33% Okay Game (8) 67% Meh Game (0) 0% Bad Game (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Losira vs aLive (Vote): Excellent Game
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hey wtf am I saying it's ace
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Losira fucked this game up so hard. If he just didn't commit to the 2nd mass drop and checked the 3rd he would have had this.
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horrible play from losira
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On July 10 2016 19:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:poor freecs but GUMIGOD WILL PLAY THE PLAYOFFS BEWARE OTHER TEAMS
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On July 10 2016 19:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:poor freecs but GUMIGOD WILL PLAY THE PLAYOFFS BEWARE OTHER TEAMS
I think you mixed up scores or players? :p
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On July 10 2016 19:04 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:poor freecs but GUMIGOD WILL PLAY THE PLAYOFFS BEWARE OTHER TEAMS I think you mixed up scores or players? :p
yeah
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KT will now lose 1st if JAGW 3-0s (if KT wins ace)
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I'm ready for jjakji vs Bomber
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On July 10 2016 19:04 Inflicted wrote:
KT will now lose 1st if JAGW 3-0s
Or 3-1.
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On July 10 2016 19:04 Elentos wrote:Or 3-1.
Oh wait, JAGW has head 2 head
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On July 10 2016 19:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:
hey wtf am I saying it's ace
When the freecs win the ace, they should be in the playoffs instead of MVP or?
Freecs sits then at 12-13 and MVP at 10-13.
Go Ace !
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On July 10 2016 19:04 Inflicted wrote:
KT will now lose 1st if JAGW 3-0s (if KT wins ace)
JA won H2H, so 3-1 works too?
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By win rates on Overgrowth, TY and Stats would be better choices than Zest.
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Will we actually see someone but Zest?
I doubt it.
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LEENOCK VS CURIOUS
WTF ????????????
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ZVZ ACE
LEENOCK I'M BEGGING YOU
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On July 10 2016 19:05 [PkF] Wire wrote:
LEENOCK VS CURIOUS
WTF ????????????
lool
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Can we accuse KT coach of matchfixing? o.o
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KT coaches pls. If you lose this ima be pretty fucked off.
If you win you can be GOAT I guess.
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in three matches we got PvP, TvT and ZvZ aces. Fun days
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Wait, what...? Leenock?
I might actually like it.
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Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
I uh... I don't know what to say here...
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I blame the queen buff
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why leenock? dont they wanna win?
poor MVP...
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oh btw why they sent Zergs is because of how impossible it is to win PvZ on this map
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KT being nice giving Freecs a chance to go to playoff?
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On July 10 2016 19:06 Makro wrote:lool
guess I wasn't that far with jjakji vs Bomber
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If Leenock wins this was a great choice. If he loses, why the fuck didn't you send out Stats?
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Wow, so it comes down to this..
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Leenock's ZvZ is very good right ?
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Oh it's Overgrowth, makes a little bit more sense to send Leenock there.
Still, Stats would probably be a safer choice
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On July 10 2016 19:06 sharkie wrote:
Can we accuse KT coach of matchfixing? o.o
you're gonna get warned
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Curious is going to give me even more anti points isn't he?
damn
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On July 10 2016 19:06 Ej_ wrote:
oh btw why they sent Zergs is because of how impossible it is to win PvZ on this map
what
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On July 10 2016 19:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:06 Ej_ wrote:
oh btw why they sent Zergs is because of how impossible it is to win PvZ on this map what
Leenock does this every game vs P, you take gold as natural and then just spam hatch units
I'm pretty sure they were sent as Super/Zest snipers respectively
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On July 10 2016 19:07 Penev wrote:
Curious is going to give me even more anti points isn't he?
damn
Oh god I didn't even think of that. Fucks sake.
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On July 10 2016 19:07 Durnuu wrote:
Oh it's Overgrowth, makes a little bit more sense to send Leenock there.
Still, Stats would probably be a safer choice
I mean, even TY is likely a better choice. He's not gonna get bane busted again.
Leenock might just build order die.
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Leenock's fighting for GuMiho/Choya's playoffs
The FXO collusion
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On July 10 2016 19:08 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 19:06 Ej_ wrote:
oh btw why they sent Zergs is because of how impossible it is to win PvZ on this map what Leenock does this every game vs P, you take gold as natural and then just spam hatch units
I guess Apotheosis is going to be even worse then
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Rocket Bear is gonna be gutted he isn't here to see this.
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On July 10 2016 19:08 Inflicted wrote:
Leenock's fighting for GuMiho/Choya's playoffs
lol if he fails now
I'll be so pissed if Leenock just loses on build orders in 3 minutes.
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On July 10 2016 19:09 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:08 Inflicted wrote:
Leenock's fighting for GuMiho/Choya's playoffs lol if he fails now I'll be so pissed if Leenock just loses on build orders in 3 minutes.
3hatch no pool vs 13/12, I can sense it
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Leenock has a garbage head-to-head against Curious, too. Safe to say KT expected a Protoss.
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On July 10 2016 19:11 Elentos wrote:
Leenock has a garbage head-to-head against Curious, too. Safe to say KT expected a Protoss.
When I expect a protoss I send out Stats...
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Leenock has been fielded in as many ace matches as Stats this year. That is criminal.
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On July 10 2016 19:12 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:11 Elentos wrote:
Leenock has a garbage head-to-head against Curious, too. Safe to say KT expected a Protoss. When I expect a protoss I send out Stats...
I, too, loved his series vs MyuNgSiK
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On July 10 2016 19:12 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:11 Elentos wrote:
Leenock has a garbage head-to-head against Curious, too. Safe to say KT expected a Protoss. When I expect a protoss I send out Stats...
When I expect the other team to send out any player for the ace match, I don't send Leenock. Not in 2016, anyway. But he's surprisingly solid on Overgrowth.
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On July 10 2016 19:13 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:12 sharkie wrote:On July 10 2016 19:11 Elentos wrote:
Leenock has a garbage head-to-head against Curious, too. Safe to say KT expected a Protoss. When I expect a protoss I send out Stats... When I expect the other team to send out any player for the ace match, I don't send Leenock. Not in 2016, anyway.
The only reasonable conclusion is that KT expected ST_Aphrodite to be sent out.
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Did the KT coaches expect everyone to expect another Zest ace, and therefore knew Afreeca would send a zerg sniper, and therefore decided to counter-snipe?
Even if that's true, I still can't understand why they don't just send Stats. Surely he must be better at PvZ than Leenock is ZvZ, even if Leenock is prepared for this.
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On July 10 2016 19:14 Ctesias wrote:
Did the KT coaches expect everyone to expect another Zest ace, and therefore knew Afreeca would send a zerg sniper, and therefore decided to counter-snipe?
Even if that's true, I still can't understand why they don't just send Stats. Surely he must be better at PvZ than Leenock is ZvZ, even if Leenock is prepared for this.
gold base abuse
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On July 10 2016 19:14 Ctesias wrote:
Did the KT coaches expect everyone to expect another Zest ace, and therefore knew Afreeca would send a zerg sniper, and therefore decided to counter-snipe?
Even if that's true, I still can't understand why they don't just send Stats. Surely he must be better at PvZ than Leenock is ZvZ, even if Leenock is prepared for this.
Yeah, no way that's what they expected, because as you say you'd be sending Stats.
Leenock must have been specifically prepared for this situation but I still don't have much faith
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On July 10 2016 19:14 Ctesias wrote:
Did the KT coaches expect everyone to expect another Zest ace, and therefore knew Afreeca would send a zerg sniper, and therefore decided to counter-snipe?
Even if that's true, I still can't understand why they don't just send Stats. Surely he must be better at PvZ than Leenock is ZvZ, even if Leenock is prepared for this.
Even just sending TY would be a better choice because he already prepared for Curious once and just got a bit unlucky he got cheesed out.
Odds are they expected Super and wanted Leenock to go for the gold.
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let's hope Leenock does this so that Gumiho can rock the playoffs
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How can a team with the best TY of his career, Zest's 2nd coming and Stats perform so badly in PL?
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On July 10 2016 19:17 sharkie wrote:
How can a team with the best TY of his career, Zest's 2nd coming and Stats perform so badly in PL?
They're only top 2, how could they?!
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On July 10 2016 19:17 sharkie wrote:
How can a team with the best TY of his career, Zest's 2nd coming and Stats perform so badly in PL?
well this round they're doing alright
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On July 10 2016 19:18 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:17 sharkie wrote:
How can a team with the best TY of his career, Zest's 2nd coming and Stats perform so badly in PL? They're only top 2, how could they?!
Shameful.
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On July 10 2016 19:17 sharkie wrote:
How can a team with the best TY of his career, Zest's 2nd coming and Stats perform so badly in PL?
TY is at like 50% winrate in PL. But yeah KT's doing fine.
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On July 10 2016 19:17 sharkie wrote:
How can a team with the best TY of his career, Zest's 2nd coming and Stats perform so badly in PL?
How can SKT be last?
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On July 10 2016 19:18 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:17 sharkie wrote:
How can a team with the best TY of his career, Zest's 2nd coming and Stats perform so badly in PL? They're only top 2, how could they?!
they are top3 in standings... JA and SKT are above them
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On July 10 2016 19:19 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:17 sharkie wrote:
How can a team with the best TY of his career, Zest's 2nd coming and Stats perform so badly in PL? How can SKT be last?
this is a real question
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ha ha Curious is twelve pooling
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This is one of those cases where if Leenock wins, the coaches will look like geniuses. If he loses, they will accused of going 'full KT coaches'.
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We've got the early pool, now we need the 3 hatch + gas before pool
EDIT : oh he sent a drone, didn't see that. Not fun
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should be an easy win for Leenock... right ?
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On July 10 2016 19:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
should be an easy win for Leenock... right ?
it's a BO loss
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did that work in favor of leenock ? wtf
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On July 10 2016 19:22 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
should be an easy win for Leenock... right ? it's a BO loss
really ?
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Leenock's ZvZ is very good i told you.
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On July 10 2016 19:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:22 Ej_ wrote:On July 10 2016 19:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
should be an easy win for Leenock... right ? it's a BO loss really ?
yep
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On July 10 2016 19:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:22 Ej_ wrote:On July 10 2016 19:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
should be an easy win for Leenock... right ? it's a BO loss really ?
in the perfect world Curious never attacks the drones in main and just kills hatchery, then expands and wins
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Fuck you KT coaches. Fuck you Leenock. :/
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These casters have no clue, Leenock was behind so long.
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Afreeeeeeca in playoffs :D
KT coach throws hard
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My FPL is so so dead. Curious on anti, and going mass SKT on the main
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Leenock was never close to holding. Wtf is Wolf saying?
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so my FPL was like really good up until this game
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lol KT coach throwing so hard.
lol "close game" Wolf pls
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On July 10 2016 19:24 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 19:22 Ej_ wrote:On July 10 2016 19:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
should be an easy win for Leenock... right ? it's a BO loss really ? in the perfect world Curious never attacks the drones in main and just kills hatchery, then expands and wins
I thought you could hold 12 pool bane with hatch first
even if Leenock cancels his hatch he's fucked ?
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KT coaches are fucking idiots though.
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Somewhere Choya and Gumigod are crying.
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Why would send Leenock against this monster
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Since he's lost his old job as GSL gatekeeper he's now the SPL gatekeeper. Poor MVP.
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Alright time to invade kespa jail and bring life back.
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NOOOO
thats so unfair for MVP. sending out Leenock as Ace cant be serious for KT.
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wow
all the gods hate me, ALL of them
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Why did he drone scout if he's gonna just go for hatch first?
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On July 10 2016 19:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:24 Ej_ wrote:On July 10 2016 19:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 19:22 Ej_ wrote:On July 10 2016 19:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
should be an easy win for Leenock... right ? it's a BO loss really ? in the perfect world Curious never attacks the drones in main and just kills hatchery, then expands and wins I thought you could hold 12 pool bane with hatch first even if Leenock cancels his hatch he's fucked ?
If he cancels the hatch he loses the only advantage he ever had.
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On July 10 2016 19:25 Ej_ wrote:
so my FPL was like really good up until this game
it was already bad enough with Gumiho on anti. Now Curious who's also on my anti gets two wins. RIP .
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On July 10 2016 19:25 Elentos wrote:
KT coaches are fucking idiots though.
So dumb. 3 of the best players in the world. Better send out an under performing Zerg. Seems legit.
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On July 10 2016 19:26 redloser wrote:
Why did he drone scout if he's gonna just go for hatch first?
He wanted to scout if he can go triple hatch
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Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
On July 10 2016 19:25 umelbumel wrote:
Somewhere Choya and Gumigod are crying.
Yay... They can join me and oov...
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On July 10 2016 19:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:24 Ej_ wrote:On July 10 2016 19:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 19:22 Ej_ wrote:On July 10 2016 19:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
should be an easy win for Leenock... right ? it's a BO loss really ? in the perfect world Curious never attacks the drones in main and just kills hatchery, then expands and wins I thought you could hold 12 pool bane with hatch first even if Leenock cancels his hatch he's fucked ?
13/12 is the only reason why you see pool first in ZvZ
You have to skip speed and get bane nest ASAP if you want to ever hold it, so you can't counter attack to cancel enemy hatch and you just lose the macro game
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On July 10 2016 19:26 Phredxor wrote:So dumb. 3 of the best players in the world. Better send out an under performing Zerg. Seems legit.
if this move somewhat worked some would have called that a genius move
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On July 10 2016 19:25 ilikeredheads wrote:
lol KT coach throwing so hard.
lol "close game" Wolf pls
Wolf didnt understand, that Leenock had not any larva advantage, as Leenock used both queens down the ramp/lost them, while curious had a queen non stop injecting.
Fine to see KT lose it.
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On July 10 2016 19:25 umelbumel wrote:
Somewhere Choya and Gumigod are crying.
They're getting their baseball bats ready and preparing an ambush on KT.
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I can only assume KT coaches are scared of Guimiho and didn't want him in finals.
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These last two weeks of SPL have been tough on my LBs.. But Afreeca for playoffs now? If so, totally worth it
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why would you sent ouy a drone and still throw down a hatch before your drone see the pool timing...
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Great micro by curious though
impressive
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On July 10 2016 19:26 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 19:24 Ej_ wrote:On July 10 2016 19:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 19:22 Ej_ wrote:On July 10 2016 19:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
should be an easy win for Leenock... right ? it's a BO loss really ? in the perfect world Curious never attacks the drones in main and just kills hatchery, then expands and wins I thought you could hold 12 pool bane with hatch first even if Leenock cancels his hatch he's fucked ? If he cancels the hatch he loses the only advantage he ever had.
yeah I guess so. But then I don't get why someone would ever hatch first in ZvZ, it's not even at such a huge advantage vs pool first is it ?
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Today is another day when one cannot help but feel that KT is held back by the coaches' decision making.
Once they get to Zest's/Stats' level, it will be glorious. One can hope...
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On July 10 2016 19:27 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:26 Elentos wrote:On July 10 2016 19:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 19:24 Ej_ wrote:On July 10 2016 19:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 19:22 Ej_ wrote:On July 10 2016 19:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
should be an easy win for Leenock... right ? it's a BO loss really ? in the perfect world Curious never attacks the drones in main and just kills hatchery, then expands and wins I thought you could hold 12 pool bane with hatch first even if Leenock cancels his hatch he's fucked ? If he cancels the hatch he loses the only advantage he ever had. yeah I guess so. But then I don't get why someone would ever hatch first in ZvZ, it's not even at such a huge advantage vs pool first is it ?
Same reason protoss still go for nexus first builds?
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On July 10 2016 19:26 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:26 Phredxor wrote:On July 10 2016 19:25 Elentos wrote:
KT coaches are fucking idiots though. So dumb. 3 of the best players in the world. Better send out an under performing Zerg. Seems legit. if this move somewhat worked some would have called that a genius move
It's a dumb risk because KT always has better options than Leenock. Even if he had won. KT threw away first place for the round and now they have to hope to beat Jin Air in all-kill.
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On July 10 2016 19:27 Phredxor wrote:
I can only assume KT coaches are scared of Guimiho and didn't want him in finals.
They couldve knocked out JAGW if KT got first
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KT keeps sending Leenock and he keeps screwing up. Why u no send Stats/Zest ffs.
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On July 10 2016 19:27 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:26 Elentos wrote:On July 10 2016 19:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 19:24 Ej_ wrote:On July 10 2016 19:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 19:22 Ej_ wrote:On July 10 2016 19:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
should be an easy win for Leenock... right ? it's a BO loss really ? in the perfect world Curious never attacks the drones in main and just kills hatchery, then expands and wins I thought you could hold 12 pool bane with hatch first even if Leenock cancels his hatch he's fucked ? If he cancels the hatch he loses the only advantage he ever had. yeah I guess so. But then I don't get why someone would ever hatch first in ZvZ, it's not even at such a huge advantage vs pool first is it ?
larvae is a huge deal in ZvZ
also hatch first builds just line up much better with speed and queen timings etc.
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On July 10 2016 19:27 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:27 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 19:26 Elentos wrote:On July 10 2016 19:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 19:24 Ej_ wrote:On July 10 2016 19:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:On July 10 2016 19:22 Ej_ wrote:On July 10 2016 19:22 [PkF] Wire wrote:
should be an easy win for Leenock... right ? it's a BO loss really ? in the perfect world Curious never attacks the drones in main and just kills hatchery, then expands and wins I thought you could hold 12 pool bane with hatch first even if Leenock cancels his hatch he's fucked ? If he cancels the hatch he loses the only advantage he ever had. yeah I guess so. But then I don't get why someone would ever hatch first in ZvZ, it's not even at such a huge advantage vs pool first is it ? Same reason protoss still go for nexus first builds?
yeah probably ^^ cutting corners like madmen
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On July 10 2016 19:27 Phredxor wrote:
I can only assume KT coaches are scared of Guimiho and didn't want him in finals.
This makes sense.
RIP FPL
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Having Afreeca on my LB gives sadly only 1 point :/
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On July 10 2016 19:25 Clonester wrote:
Afreeeeeeca in playoffs :D
KT coach throws hard
KT coach always does! But not as bad as Samsung coach
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On July 10 2016 19:28 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:27 Phredxor wrote:
I can only assume KT coaches are scared of Guimiho and didn't want him in finals. They couldve knocked out JAGW if KT got first
Yeah, KT coaches are dumb.
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let's start the #ImpeachKtCoach
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On July 10 2016 19:28 Salteador Neo wrote:
KT keeps sending Leenock and he keeps screwing up. Why u no send Stats/Zest ffs.
Still looking for that 4th player to finish the line up. Honestly, at this point, I don't think it's going to be any of the remaining players on KT.
We need to buy someone great. Like... Gumiho. Yeah, that'd be nice.
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On July 10 2016 19:29 Makro wrote:
let's start the #ImpeachKtCoach
Gumiho signs in
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Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
You got to hand it to Curious though, his focus in this last game as amazing. I wish soO could have pulled off concentration of this level when he played against Losira on Frozen Temple...
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On July 10 2016 19:29 Makro wrote:
let's start the #ImpeachKtCoach
SKT should steal him, then maybe we'll finally see MyuNgSiK
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On July 10 2016 19:30 Inflicted wrote:SKT should steal him, then maybe we'll finally see MyuNgSiK
Zoun for ace matches sounds good.
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On July 10 2016 19:29 Ctesias wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:28 Salteador Neo wrote:
KT keeps sending Leenock and he keeps screwing up. Why u no send Stats/Zest ffs. Still looking for that 4th player to finish the line up. Honestly, at this point, I don't think it's going to be any of the remaining players on KT. We need to buy someone great. Like... Gumiho. Yeah, that'd be nice.
KT will be the 2016's SKT in 2014... only terrans and protosses
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That being said I'm very glad for Curious and the freecs.
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On July 10 2016 19:31 swissman777 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:29 Ctesias wrote:On July 10 2016 19:28 Salteador Neo wrote:
KT keeps sending Leenock and he keeps screwing up. Why u no send Stats/Zest ffs. Still looking for that 4th player to finish the line up. Honestly, at this point, I don't think it's going to be any of the remaining players on KT. We need to buy someone great. Like... Gumiho. Yeah, that'd be nice. KT will be the 2016's SKT in 2014... only terrans and protosses
I don't mind. The zergs we have suck.
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On July 10 2016 19:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
That being said I'm very glad for Curious and the freecs.
I had given up on the Gatekeeper, good to see he can still win
My anti tho o:
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Poor MVPand GuMiho
but I'm glad for the freecs I really hope they'll make it to the final play off
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Hm, this match actually mattered a ton for post-season playoffs too
10 pts between 1st & 2nd round-robin makes it harder for them to steal 2nd from SKT
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On July 10 2016 19:30 Seeker wrote:
You got to hand it to Curious though, his focus in this last game as amazing. I wish soO could have pulled off concentration of this level when he played against Losira on Frozen Temple...
You can't do better than a guy who's got nothing to lose
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So hoe will afreeca get ahead of cj to reach the playoffs now? Have anyone done the math?
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On July 10 2016 19:33 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
That being said I'm very glad for Curious and the freecs. I had given up on the Gatekeeper, good to see he can still win My anti tho o:
I've given up on FPL since Gumiho started winning every game he played. It's sad because I actually had made solid pick-ups for my team this time.
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On July 10 2016 19:34 Colouss wrote:
So hoe will afreeca get ahead of cj to reach the playoffs now? Have anyone done the math?
They need to win the whole round 3 playoffs
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On July 10 2016 19:29 Ctesias wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:28 Salteador Neo wrote:
KT keeps sending Leenock and he keeps screwing up. Why u no send Stats/Zest ffs. Still looking for that 4th player to finish the line up. Honestly, at this point, I don't think it's going to be any of the remaining players on KT. We need to buy someone great. Like... Gumiho. Yeah, that'd be nice.
it's a decent zerg that KT need most right now. at this point I miss Life
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On July 10 2016 19:34 Colouss wrote:
So hoe will afreeca get ahead of cj to reach the playoffs now? Have anyone done the math?
CJ needs to lose his game with 3-0 or 3-1 and then Afreeca will be 3rd in this round.
Then Afreeca needs to beat them in the playoffs.
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On July 10 2016 19:36 bestviva wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:29 Ctesias wrote:On July 10 2016 19:28 Salteador Neo wrote:
KT keeps sending Leenock and he keeps screwing up. Why u no send Stats/Zest ffs. Still looking for that 4th player to finish the line up. Honestly, at this point, I don't think it's going to be any of the remaining players on KT. We need to buy someone great. Like... Gumiho. Yeah, that'd be nice. it's a decent zerg that KT need most right now. at this point I miss Life
Nah fuck that guy.
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On July 10 2016 19:36 bestviva wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:29 Ctesias wrote:On July 10 2016 19:28 Salteador Neo wrote:
KT keeps sending Leenock and he keeps screwing up. Why u no send Stats/Zest ffs. Still looking for that 4th player to finish the line up. Honestly, at this point, I don't think it's going to be any of the remaining players on KT. We need to buy someone great. Like... Gumiho. Yeah, that'd be nice. it's a decent zerg that KT need most right now. at this point I miss Life
Never miss matchfixers. They are scum.
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On July 10 2016 19:36 Clonester wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:34 Colouss wrote:
So hoe will afreeca get ahead of cj to reach the playoffs now? Have anyone done the math? CJ needs to lose his game with 3-0 or 3-1 and then Afreeca will be 3rd in this round. Then Afreeca needs to beat them in the playoffs.
No, if CJ lose then Afreeca are in 3rd regardless. If CJ fail to make top 2 in the round playoffs, Afreeca make the season playoffs
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On July 10 2016 19:38 thecrazymunchkin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:36 Clonester wrote:On July 10 2016 19:34 Colouss wrote:
So hoe will afreeca get ahead of cj to reach the playoffs now? Have anyone done the math? CJ needs to lose his game with 3-0 or 3-1 and then Afreeca will be 3rd in this round. Then Afreeca needs to beat them in the playoffs. No, if CJ lose then Afreeca are in 3rd regardless. If CJ fail to make top 2 in the round playoffs, Afreeca make the season playoffs
But when CJ loses 3-2, they are both at -1. I dont know what rule then applies.
Yeah, they would have to beat also KT/JinAir to get the 10 points of 2nd place in the playoff, but Afreeca should feel the need to beat them to not give it again in someone else hands.
Now they just sit there and have to watch CJ/SKT. If CJ wins, Afreeca needs to win the round playoffs, or?
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On July 10 2016 19:41 Clonester wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:38 thecrazymunchkin wrote:On July 10 2016 19:36 Clonester wrote:On July 10 2016 19:34 Colouss wrote:
So hoe will afreeca get ahead of cj to reach the playoffs now? Have anyone done the math? CJ needs to lose his game with 3-0 or 3-1 and then Afreeca will be 3rd in this round. Then Afreeca needs to beat them in the playoffs. No, if CJ lose then Afreeca are in 3rd regardless. If CJ fail to make top 2 in the round playoffs, Afreeca make the season playoffs But when CJ loses 3-2, they are both at -1. I dont know what rule then applies. Yeah, they would have to beat also KT/JinAir to get the 10 points of 2nd place in the playoff, but Afreeca should feel the need to beat them to not give it again in someone else hands. Now they just sit there and have to watch CJ/SKT. If CJ wins, Afreeca needs to win the round playoffs, or?
I believe number of wins is one of the tiebreak conditions, so Afreeca will be 3rd in that case
edit: this is what I did yesterday
On July 09 2016 21:44 thecrazymunchkin wrote:Quick update on Playoffs stuff, top end places first: - Jin Air have guaranteed 1st seed in the Season Playoffs.
- If KT win against Afreeca by a better or equal score than Jin Air against Samsung, they guarantee 2nd seed in the Season Playoffs.
- If KT lose and SKT have a worse score than Samsung (win or lose), KT need to place 2nd to claim 2nd seed in the Season Playoffs.
- If KT lose and SKT have a better score than Samsung (win or lose), KT tie with SKT if they finish 2nd in the Round Playoffs (and take 2nd seed if they win the Round Playoffs). Who the hell knows what happens here—Bo1 tiebreaker? Maybe SKT get the nod for actually winning a round.
Now a look at the final 4th spot: - If Afreeca and CJ win, CJ take 3rd seed and Afreeca take 4th seed for Round Playoffs. CJ qualify for season playoffs unless Afreeca win the Round Playoffs. (Note: If CJ win 3-2, Afreeca win 3-0, then the two teams tie on both points, indicator points and # wins. CJ beat Afreeca in head to head 3-2, so I assume they'll go through in 3rd).
- If Afreeca win and CJ lose, Afreeca take 3rd seed and CJ take 4th for Round Playoffs. Afreeca qualify for season playoffs if CJ finish outside the top 2.
- If Afreeca lose, MVP are in the Round Playoffs. CJ in 3rd, MVP in 4th. MVP need to win the Round Playoffs to qualify for the Season Playoffs.
Someone tell me if I've goofed
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On July 10 2016 19:41 Clonester wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:38 thecrazymunchkin wrote:On July 10 2016 19:36 Clonester wrote:On July 10 2016 19:34 Colouss wrote:
So hoe will afreeca get ahead of cj to reach the playoffs now? Have anyone done the math? CJ needs to lose his game with 3-0 or 3-1 and then Afreeca will be 3rd in this round. Then Afreeca needs to beat them in the playoffs. No, if CJ lose then Afreeca are in 3rd regardless. If CJ fail to make top 2 in the round playoffs, Afreeca make the season playoffs But when CJ loses 3-2, they are both at -1. I dont know what rule then applies. Yeah, they would have to beat also KT/JinAir to get the 10 points of 2nd place in the playoff, but Afreeca should feel the need to beat them to not give it again in someone else hands. Now they just sit there and have to watch CJ/SKT. If CJ wins, Afreeca needs to win the round playoffs, or?
CJ is 3rd if they beat SKT and Afreeca must wins the playoff to be qualified
but if they loose Afreeca is 3rd and most likely going to the final playoffs
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sad for MVP and GumiGod but let's be honest - Afreeca performed as a team, they have more players performing now so deserved spot in playoffs.
KT sending out Leenock in ace is at least as dumb as always sending Zest for ace...
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On July 10 2016 19:43 thecrazymunchkin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:41 Clonester wrote:On July 10 2016 19:38 thecrazymunchkin wrote:On July 10 2016 19:36 Clonester wrote:On July 10 2016 19:34 Colouss wrote:
So hoe will afreeca get ahead of cj to reach the playoffs now? Have anyone done the math? CJ needs to lose his game with 3-0 or 3-1 and then Afreeca will be 3rd in this round. Then Afreeca needs to beat them in the playoffs. No, if CJ lose then Afreeca are in 3rd regardless. If CJ fail to make top 2 in the round playoffs, Afreeca make the season playoffs But when CJ loses 3-2, they are both at -1. I dont know what rule then applies. Yeah, they would have to beat also KT/JinAir to get the 10 points of 2nd place in the playoff, but Afreeca should feel the need to beat them to not give it again in someone else hands. Now they just sit there and have to watch CJ/SKT. If CJ wins, Afreeca needs to win the round playoffs, or? I believe number of wins is one of the tiebreak conditions, so Afreeca will be 3rd in that case
I think head-to-head tiebreaker is after indicators
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Leenock?
FUCKING LEENOCK?
REALLY?
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On July 10 2016 19:31 swissman777 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2016 19:29 Ctesias wrote:On July 10 2016 19:28 Salteador Neo wrote:
KT keeps sending Leenock and he keeps screwing up. Why u no send Stats/Zest ffs. Still looking for that 4th player to finish the line up. Honestly, at this point, I don't think it's going to be any of the remaining players on KT. We need to buy someone great. Like... Gumiho. Yeah, that'd be nice. KT will be the 2016's SKT in 2014... only terrans and protosses
You mean 2014 KT, right? KT in 2014 was Flash/TY/Zest/Stats. SKT was Rain/PartinG/Classic/Soulkey/soO.
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Well, we can confirm two things from today's games: the KT coaches have terrible decision-making and you should never trust a KT zerg (with the current roster anyway) to perform when it matters.
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Meh, still #1. Better use Stats next time though.
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On July 10 2016 23:58 Ctesias wrote:
Well, we can confirm two things from today's games: the KT coaches have terrible decision-making and you should never trust a KT zerg (with the current roster anyway) to perform when it matters.
definitely match-fixing. sue the coaches!
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On July 10 2016 23:58 Ctesias wrote:
Well, we can confirm two things from today's games: the KT coaches have terrible decision-making and you should never trust a KT zerg (with the current roster anyway) to perform when it matters.
He can hold an unscouted hellbat push but he can't hold a scouted 12-pool. Just Leenock things.
This was the weirdest ace match choice since Samsung sent out BrAvO to get butchered by Zest.
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so for season playoffs we have:
1. Jin Air
2. KT
3. SKT
4. CJ unless afreeca wins round3 playoffs?
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On July 11 2016 00:59 Cricketer12 wrote:
so for season playoffs we have:
1. Jin Air
2. KT
3. SKT
4. CJ unless afreeca wins round3 playoffs?
4 is Afreeca unless CJ gets to the round 3 playoff finals. I think they're ahead by like 5 points.
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Poor MVP, they worked so hard.
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leenock for ace match, what was the coach thinking?
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