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Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-10 14:37:23
June 10 2016 14:37 GMT
#901
On June 10 2016 23:25 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
INno was brilliant but stubborn with playing 3 base MMMM against Dark's roach ravager into infest/corruptors/ ultras (mix varied from game to game). He almost won cause his execution was near to flawless but in the end it proved to not be enough...


I honestly think Dark received way too little praise for his multitasking and micro well from Artosis and Tasteless. He responded so well over and over. Very very high level play from both players, and it was just a completely different level of quality from the Sorry vs Seed series where both players demonstrated some of the worst mechanics/positioning I've seen from Koreans in a while.



I think that was the doom of INno : I suppose he beats every zergswith this style, just by brute force and multitask, but Dark is not the guy you can outplay so easily, his defense on game 5 was just brilliant.
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9447 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-10 14:57:30
June 10 2016 14:57 GMT
#902
On June 10 2016 23:37 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 23:25 Hider wrote:
INno was brilliant but stubborn with playing 3 base MMMM against Dark's roach ravager into infest/corruptors/ ultras (mix varied from game to game). He almost won cause his execution was near to flawless but in the end it proved to not be enough...


I honestly think Dark received way too little praise for his multitasking and micro well from Artosis and Tasteless. He responded so well over and over. Very very high level play from both players, and it was just a completely different level of quality from the Sorry vs Seed series where both players demonstrated some of the worst mechanics/positioning I've seen from Koreans in a while.



I think that was the doom of INno : I suppose he beats every zergswith this style, just by brute force and multitask, but Dark is not the guy you can outplay so easily, his defense on game 5 was just brilliant.


Innovation could have won though had he not clumped up his army vs Fungal Growths. I don't really think there is a different way to play the matchup than "brute force". You need to win/get a lot ahead before Ultras w/ ups.
bestviva
Profile Joined July 2015
148 Posts
June 10 2016 14:58 GMT
#903
On June 10 2016 22:50 stuchiu wrote:
Truly Inno was in such strong form that I should have included him in the ranks of Maru and Zest.

Or not. Hey at least he didn't lose to a coach this time.


if his opponent is another zerg, he probably has won, this matchup is as disgusting as maru/zest last season
Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
June 10 2016 15:02 GMT
#904
On June 10 2016 23:37 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 23:25 Hider wrote:
INno was brilliant but stubborn with playing 3 base MMMM against Dark's roach ravager into infest/corruptors/ ultras (mix varied from game to game). He almost won cause his execution was near to flawless but in the end it proved to not be enough...


I honestly think Dark received way too little praise for his multitasking and micro well from Artosis and Tasteless. He responded so well over and over. Very very high level play from both players, and it was just a completely different level of quality from the Sorry vs Seed series where both players demonstrated some of the worst mechanics/positioning I've seen from Koreans in a while.



I think that was the doom of INno : I suppose he beats every zergswith this style, just by brute force and multitask, but Dark is not the guy you can outplay so easily, his defense on game 5 was just brilliant.


To be honest Inno was playing superbly and was building a very advantageous position, but he just wanted too much to finish the game and he brute force too many time in tiny chokes against ravager+ infestor and lost way too much. I'd say that you give to TY the 3 base vs 3 base setup Innovation had build, out of 100 game he would win every single game.
bestviva
Profile Joined July 2015
148 Posts
June 10 2016 15:13 GMT
#905
On June 10 2016 23:04 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 23:01 Seeker wrote:
On June 10 2016 22:57 Gwavajuice wrote:
On June 10 2016 22:52 Seeker wrote:
...What the hell happened today?


INno was brilliant but stubborn with playing 3 base MMMM against Dark's roach ravager into infest/corruptors/ ultras (mix varied from game to game). He almost won cause his execution was near to flawless but in the end it proved to not be enough...

But what the heck happened with HerO/Pet and Seed/Sorry? These are not the results I was expecting...


3/3 Liquibets for once tonight!

HerO beat out Pet in a god awful series. Sorry got up 2-0 and choked like a boss. Both could have gone either way.


thank god at least the advanced player is Hero, if Pet advanced and Inno out, I dont think I can understand this game anymore.





bestviva
Profile Joined July 2015
148 Posts
June 10 2016 15:23 GMT
#906
On June 10 2016 23:22 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 23:05 Hider wrote:
So a shit player like Seed goes through, but Innovation doesn't? Nice seeding.

#gslneedsanewformat
Maybe they should adopt SSL Challenge?


in that case, if a player stay in both ssl and gsl, then how can he survive through those 7,8 hours long and intensity matchups, two times?:-(

chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 10 2016 17:48 GMT
#907
On June 11 2016 00:13 bestviva wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 23:04 Phredxor wrote:
On June 10 2016 23:01 Seeker wrote:
On June 10 2016 22:57 Gwavajuice wrote:
On June 10 2016 22:52 Seeker wrote:
...What the hell happened today?


INno was brilliant but stubborn with playing 3 base MMMM against Dark's roach ravager into infest/corruptors/ ultras (mix varied from game to game). He almost won cause his execution was near to flawless but in the end it proved to not be enough...

But what the heck happened with HerO/Pet and Seed/Sorry? These are not the results I was expecting...


3/3 Liquibets for once tonight!

HerO beat out Pet in a god awful series. Sorry got up 2-0 and choked like a boss. Both could have gone either way.


thank god at least the advanced player is Hero, if Pet advanced and Inno out, I dont think I can understand this game anymore.








Don't worry, next code A session we get Armani vs departure, where the loser gets solace in knowing they placed in the same rank as Innovation
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 10 2016 18:21 GMT
#908
God damn it Bogus -. -

could've gone 3/3 if he would've killed the ultra cavern in g5 instead of targeting queens. He would've taken out chit plating and probably won the game.
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Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
June 10 2016 18:22 GMT
#909
On June 10 2016 23:25 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
INno was brilliant but stubborn with playing 3 base MMMM against Dark's roach ravager into infest/corruptors/ ultras (mix varied from game to game). He almost won cause his execution was near to flawless but in the end it proved to not be enough...


I honestly think Dark received way too little praise for his multitasking and micro well from Artosis and Tasteless. He responded so well over and over. Very very high level play from both players, and it was just a completely different level of quality from the Sorry vs Seed series where both players demonstrated some of the worst mechanics/positioning I've seen from Koreans in a while.


Tried to make a thread on reddit about it but all I got was "Life could do it too" and downvotes.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 10 2016 18:56 GMT
#910
David Kim says Zerg can't beat Terran.

Dark beat Inno 3-2.

Is he saying Inno is utter trash?

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/20745205485
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RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
June 10 2016 18:57 GMT
#911
On June 11 2016 03:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
God damn it Bogus -. -

could've gone 3/3 if he would've killed the ultra cavern in g5 instead of targeting queens. He would've taken out chit plating and probably won the game.

He also tried to attack Dark in a choke against Ultra/infestor/ravager army when he was one base up if i remember correctly. He played well but made some stupid mistakes in G5.
megatroneo
Profile Joined May 2016
41 Posts
June 10 2016 19:02 GMT
#912
On June 11 2016 03:56 stuchiu wrote:
David Kim says Zerg can't beat Terran.

Dark beat Inno 3-2.

Is he saying Inno is utter trash?

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/20745205485


I mean, can you name a Zerg outside of Dark who can defeat good Terrans?
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 10 2016 19:04 GMT
#913
On June 11 2016 04:02 megatroneo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 03:56 stuchiu wrote:
David Kim says Zerg can't beat Terran.

Dark beat Inno 3-2.

Is he saying Inno is utter trash?

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/20745205485


I mean, can you name a Zerg outside of Dark who can defeat good Terrans?

maybe nerchio but i haven't seen him play actually good terrans
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Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
June 10 2016 19:06 GMT
#914
On June 10 2016 23:57 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 23:37 Gwavajuice wrote:
On June 10 2016 23:25 Hider wrote:
INno was brilliant but stubborn with playing 3 base MMMM against Dark's roach ravager into infest/corruptors/ ultras (mix varied from game to game). He almost won cause his execution was near to flawless but in the end it proved to not be enough...


I honestly think Dark received way too little praise for his multitasking and micro well from Artosis and Tasteless. He responded so well over and over. Very very high level play from both players, and it was just a completely different level of quality from the Sorry vs Seed series where both players demonstrated some of the worst mechanics/positioning I've seen from Koreans in a while.



I think that was the doom of INno : I suppose he beats every zergswith this style, just by brute force and multitask, but Dark is not the guy you can outplay so easily, his defense on game 5 was just brilliant.


Innovation could have won though had he not clumped up his army vs Fungal Growths. I don't really think there is a different way to play the matchup than "brute force". You need to win/get a lot ahead before Ultras w/ ups.



you realize you're saying he could have won if he had not clumped his units and then you say that ultras can be beaten? make up your mind, bro.

anyway, it's the widow mine usage vs Dark's comp that annoy me the most. with his mechanics INno could use tankivacs so beautifully against roach ravagers...
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
FlyingSteaks
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil433 Posts
June 10 2016 19:09 GMT
#915
Well, if Inno went from 0-2 against ragnarok to now 2-3 against Dark, I can only think he's finally getting better at LotV
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
June 10 2016 19:20 GMT
#916
On June 11 2016 04:04 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 04:02 megatroneo wrote:
On June 11 2016 03:56 stuchiu wrote:
David Kim says Zerg can't beat Terran.

Dark beat Inno 3-2.

Is he saying Inno is utter trash?

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/20745205485


I mean, can you name a Zerg outside of Dark who can defeat good Terrans?

maybe nerchio but i haven't seen him play actually good terrans

Nerchio isn't really comfortable with ZvT either so I doubt it. Rogue did okay against Terrans since the TING Open but he got 2-0'd by some Chinese player a few weeks ago so Idk about him.

So yeah I think in ZvT Dark is probably the only Zerg worth anything in Korea.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
June 10 2016 19:47 GMT
#917
On June 10 2016 22:59 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 22:53 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On June 10 2016 22:50 stuchiu wrote:
Truly Inno was in such strong form that I should have included him in the ranks of Maru and Zest.

Or not. Hey at least he didn't lose to a coach this time.

Losing 3-2 to the best Zerg in the world is still top tier material..


Doesn't put him anywhere near up there with Zest, Maru this year though. Taking two maps off of Dark is great and all but he hasn't made Code S and didn't make a dent in one SSL he qualified for. Need results to be considered among the best and Inno doesn't have them this year.

Yet I wouldn't suprised if inno won against both of them somewhere
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 10 2016 19:50 GMT
#918
People asked for bw, now we at least have bw tvz balance
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Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
June 10 2016 20:39 GMT
#919
Are there any VODs yet?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
June 10 2016 20:41 GMT
#920
On June 11 2016 05:39 EXRNaRa wrote:
Are there any VODs yet?

https://www.twitch.tv/gsl/v/71611910
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