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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46502 Posts
May 14 2016 14:36 GMT
#1001
On May 14 2016 23:33 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:28 Elentos wrote:
Incontrol & Tosis on the B-stream? Sounds really dank.


Obligatory:


Second best SotG moment of all time


What's your #1 favorite? Mine is the bunker bank, when Gretorp has no clue wtf is going on:

"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 14 2016 14:36 GMT
#1002
drogod tilt

Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
May 14 2016 14:36 GMT
#1003
On May 14 2016 23:31 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:30 ossavi09 wrote:
so, automated tournaments have a mechanic to decide who gets the win in that kind of situation, but real tournaments don't? pretty weird...

actually that's hilarious


hahaha yea but that mechanic is time based not objective based no?
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 14:36:27
May 14 2016 14:36 GMT
#1004
On May 14 2016 23:33 Diabolique wrote:
Go go Polt!!!
Well done!
Nice to see all the salt :-)

Just maybe ... uThermal is good, so I am not sure anymore Cptn. America ...

uThermal's TvZ is phenomenal. He made departure looks bad in kungfu cup
But I haven't watched enough of TvT from him to say about that
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
May 14 2016 14:36 GMT
#1005
On May 14 2016 23:33 Yiome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:30 ossavi09 wrote:
so, automated tournaments have a mechanic to decide who gets the win in that kind of situation, but real tournaments don't? pretty weird...

Really tournament has admins to decide that...
But this time the in game mechanic override reasonable human decision...
Something need to improve on this but idk maybe this time it is safer to play by the rule book for DH


Is there actually a rule book for in game situation? Because I can't find it.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13022 Posts
May 14 2016 14:36 GMT
#1006
On May 14 2016 23:32 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:29 Poopi wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:23 NarutO wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:19 Makro wrote:
at the end of the day that was an admin decision, you can't hate polt for this



fnatic had to give up her game vs LDLC when they abused pixelboosts with olof on Overpass. I believe the "anti ladder statemate" timer shouldnt be a WCS rule and is not in the rulebook, is it? Polt could have agreed that it was a loss as it was. He would have lost the marines + building. In my book; bad admin call and worse decision by Polt to take the rematch.

Simply not very mannered.

Wtf it's not about manners, it's a legitimate strategy (the only one available for Polt) to play for a draw. It was still super easy for Strange to win it but he was too scared to do it.
If you want people not to play for draws you actually have to state it beforehands or change or the game is designed.

You could say "hey this guy is not very mannered because he takes a strong race" but it's not a matter of manners it's a matter of integrity / trying to win.
If Polt forfeited it would have been like a fix because he earned the right to do a rematch.


Seemingly you dont understand. The game wasn't won to begin with when the situation occured. If Strange rushed it, he could have very well lost it. So saying "Strange was too slow to generate the win" is uncalled for as the result might have been a Polt victory to begin with.

Its beautiful to see someone work for a win and take risks etc, but forcing a draw mechanically on a player after he won is kind of pointless. I cant change the situation but I pretty much can guarantee that there won't be a draw-timer in the custom games after Tours.

How come?
He just had to bring two void rays instead of one in order to destroy the factory, since anyways his immortal sentry adept force was enough to defend the assimilators. Plus Polt had no idea if he still had those near assimilators.
It was like 95% won for Strange, if you are bad enough not to win in that case you don't deserve the victory.
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 14 2016 14:37 GMT
#1007
On May 14 2016 23:36 BretZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:31 Ej_ wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:30 ossavi09 wrote:
so, automated tournaments have a mechanic to decide who gets the win in that kind of situation, but real tournaments don't? pretty weird...

actually that's hilarious


hahaha yea but that mechanic is time based not objective based no?

It goes by XP earned in 25 minutes game time. Actually hard to say who would have won in that case.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 14 2016 14:37 GMT
#1008
Cham 1:0 Bly
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13022 Posts
May 14 2016 14:37 GMT
#1009
On May 14 2016 23:36 Yiome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:33 Diabolique wrote:
Go go Polt!!!
Well done!
Nice to see all the salt :-)

Just maybe ... uThermal is good, so I am not sure anymore Cptn. America ...

uThermal's TvZ is phenomenal. He made departure looks bad in kungfu cup
But I haven't watched enough of TvT from him to say about that

Departure had bad lags in kungfu cup iirc
WriterMaru
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 14:40:23
May 14 2016 14:38 GMT
#1010
On May 14 2016 23:34 Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:33 Musicus wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:31 Elentos wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:30 ruoning wrote:
POLT! GO BACK YOUR KR!!

I cant believe it the BUG won the game!

It's not a bug, it's a feature. For real this time.


I'm not sure about it actually, did Blizzard intend for it to be active in custom games?

Maybe not a bug, but it could be an oversight. This timer is intended for ladder.


What bug are you talking about? I probably missed this.


The timer that can end a game and declare a tie ended the game seconds before Polt would've lost his last building.

I am wondering if it's a mistake that this timer is active in custom games, since it was introduced to end ladder games where people would float buildings etc and no admin is present.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
May 14 2016 14:38 GMT
#1011
On May 14 2016 23:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:33 Cricketer12 wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:28 Elentos wrote:
Incontrol & Tosis on the B-stream? Sounds really dank.


Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG9NMWFaNxM

Second best SotG moment of all time


What's your #1 favorite? Mine is the bunker bank, when Gretorp has no clue wtf is going on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE-K-s0sBTM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LhRjP7IQa7c
Artosis and his webcam. HuK's laughing seals the deal.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 14 2016 14:38 GMT
#1012
On May 14 2016 23:37 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:36 Yiome wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:33 Diabolique wrote:
Go go Polt!!!
Well done!
Nice to see all the salt :-)

Just maybe ... uThermal is good, so I am not sure anymore Cptn. America ...

uThermal's TvZ is phenomenal. He made departure looks bad in kungfu cup
But I haven't watched enough of TvT from him to say about that

Departure had bad lags in kungfu cup iirc

He did. So that result is in the same vein as uThermal getting 0-2'd by some Chinese Terran in the same tournament (I think it was TIME?).
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
May 14 2016 14:38 GMT
#1013
On May 14 2016 23:36 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:33 Yiome wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:30 ossavi09 wrote:
so, automated tournaments have a mechanic to decide who gets the win in that kind of situation, but real tournaments don't? pretty weird...

Really tournament has admins to decide that...
But this time the in game mechanic override reasonable human decision...
Something need to improve on this but idk maybe this time it is safer to play by the rule book for DH


Is there actually a rule book for in game situation? Because I can't find it.

Well the game said it's a tie so I guess if there is no clear rule it's a tie
Both player should be able to see the timer so I guess it is fair
Still a shitty situation though
Polt knew that and he was dancing his factory for getting a "draw" at the end ><
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 14 2016 14:40 GMT
#1014
Takes a lot of skill to lose an orbital to adepts, Bunny.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 14 2016 14:41 GMT
#1015
drogod
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46502 Posts
May 14 2016 14:41 GMT
#1016
On May 14 2016 23:38 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:33 Cricketer12 wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:28 Elentos wrote:
Incontrol & Tosis on the B-stream? Sounds really dank.


Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG9NMWFaNxM

Second best SotG moment of all time


What's your #1 favorite? Mine is the bunker bank, when Gretorp has no clue wtf is going on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE-K-s0sBTM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LhRjP7IQa7c
Artosis and his webcam. HuK's laughing seals the deal.


Love that one too

Bunny dead in game two, ouch.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ossavi09
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany441 Posts
May 14 2016 14:41 GMT
#1017
On May 14 2016 23:40 Elentos wrote:
Takes a lot of skill to lose an orbital to adepts, Bunny.


he also let all adepts in when there where 2 depots =O those tanks would have killed the adepts if they tried to kill the depots...
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
May 14 2016 14:42 GMT
#1018
Wtf Snute...
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
May 14 2016 14:42 GMT
#1019
On May 14 2016 23:36 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 23:32 NarutO wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:29 Poopi wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:23 NarutO wrote:
On May 14 2016 23:19 Makro wrote:
at the end of the day that was an admin decision, you can't hate polt for this



fnatic had to give up her game vs LDLC when they abused pixelboosts with olof on Overpass. I believe the "anti ladder statemate" timer shouldnt be a WCS rule and is not in the rulebook, is it? Polt could have agreed that it was a loss as it was. He would have lost the marines + building. In my book; bad admin call and worse decision by Polt to take the rematch.

Simply not very mannered.

Wtf it's not about manners, it's a legitimate strategy (the only one available for Polt) to play for a draw. It was still super easy for Strange to win it but he was too scared to do it.
If you want people not to play for draws you actually have to state it beforehands or change or the game is designed.

You could say "hey this guy is not very mannered because he takes a strong race" but it's not a matter of manners it's a matter of integrity / trying to win.
If Polt forfeited it would have been like a fix because he earned the right to do a rematch.


Seemingly you dont understand. The game wasn't won to begin with when the situation occured. If Strange rushed it, he could have very well lost it. So saying "Strange was too slow to generate the win" is uncalled for as the result might have been a Polt victory to begin with.

Its beautiful to see someone work for a win and take risks etc, but forcing a draw mechanically on a player after he won is kind of pointless. I cant change the situation but I pretty much can guarantee that there won't be a draw-timer in the custom games after Tours.

How come?
He just had to bring two void rays instead of one in order to destroy the factory, since anyways his immortal sentry adept force was enough to defend the assimilators. Plus Polt had no idea if he still had those near assimilators.
It was like 95% won for Strange, if you are bad enough not to win in that case you don't deserve the victory.

gratz on forgetting players don't have maphacks.
Michael Probu
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore910 Posts
May 14 2016 14:43 GMT
#1020
o drogo won 1 game...

with adepts.....

Why am i not surprised.
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
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