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On May 14 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 23:20 juvenal wrote:On May 14 2016 23:00 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 14 2016 23:00 juvenal wrote:On May 14 2016 22:53 Elentos wrote:On May 14 2016 22:52 Ej_ wrote:On May 14 2016 22:51 travis wrote:
so people are mad because...?
sounds like the game worked how the game is programmed to work because this wasnt actually a draw Or it wouldn't have been if Strange had the balls to go kill him with the units he has. But if he was aware of the timer, that means he accepted the game would end in a tie. the question is: will Polt demonstrate enough balls to forfeit this game, because he lost it fair and square. Not according to the engine. ![[image loading]](http://i38.tinypic.com/2uerzmw.gif) hurr durr the engine is planet Earth's physics, get over it (that goal was never disallowed)! Right? Now do you wanna play the game or pick funny excuses? Polt played for the draw and Strange gave him enough time to get there. That's a legitimate move in a game of Starcraft, and apparently Dreamhack hadn't accounted for this. Polt playing out the re-game was not a show of poor sportsmanship.
This, oh this!!
Don't get why people don't get that!
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On May 14 2016 23:19 Makro wrote:
at the end of the day that was an admin decision, you can't hate polt for this
fnatic had to give up her game vs LDLC when they abused pixelboosts with olof on Overpass. I believe the "anti ladder statemate" timer shouldnt be a WCS rule and is not in the rulebook, is it? Polt could have agreed that it was a loss as it was. He would have lost the marines + building. In my book; bad admin call and worse decision by Polt to take the rematch.
Simply not very mannered.
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Mute City2363 Posts
The salt in here is incredibly entertaining
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On May 14 2016 23:23 Makro wrote:
come on ptitdrogod even if i think bunny's gonna win
Wow nice French passion. Was your baguette soggy this morning?
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On May 14 2016 23:20 juvenal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 23:00 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 14 2016 23:00 juvenal wrote:On May 14 2016 22:53 Elentos wrote:On May 14 2016 22:52 Ej_ wrote:On May 14 2016 22:51 travis wrote:
so people are mad because...?
sounds like the game worked how the game is programmed to work because this wasnt actually a draw Or it wouldn't have been if Strange had the balls to go kill him with the units he has. But if he was aware of the timer, that means he accepted the game would end in a tie. the question is: will Polt demonstrate enough balls to forfeit this game, because he lost it fair and square. Not according to the engine. hurr durr the engine is planet Earth's physics, get over it (that goal was never disallowed)! Right? Now do you wanna play the game or pick funny excuses?
That goal shoul've been disallowed since there's a foreign object interfering with the play. There's no comparison between that situation and this one. The simple fact of the matter is that the in-game rules made this a draw, Unless there's something written in the WCS rules about a situation such as this, a draw is the only fair ruling since both players saw the timer.
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On May 14 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 23:20 juvenal wrote:On May 14 2016 23:00 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 14 2016 23:00 juvenal wrote:On May 14 2016 22:53 Elentos wrote:On May 14 2016 22:52 Ej_ wrote:On May 14 2016 22:51 travis wrote:
so people are mad because...?
sounds like the game worked how the game is programmed to work because this wasnt actually a draw Or it wouldn't have been if Strange had the balls to go kill him with the units he has. But if he was aware of the timer, that means he accepted the game would end in a tie. the question is: will Polt demonstrate enough balls to forfeit this game, because he lost it fair and square. Not according to the engine. hurr durr the engine is planet Earth's physics, get over it (that goal was never disallowed)! Right? Now do you wanna play the game or pick funny excuses? Polt played for the draw and Strange gave him enough time to get there. That's a legitimate move in a game of Starcraft, and apparently Dreamhack hadn't accounted for this. Polt playing out the re-game was not a show of poor sportsmanship.
that goal was just as legitimate. Enjoy the legitimacy, yay!
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On May 14 2016 23:21 Yiome wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 23:18 kaykoose wrote:On May 14 2016 23:18 Yiome wrote:
Never a polt fan
Never will be
enough said Because he won? Because his play style But nevermind that Hopefully we can get more "normal" matches from now on
Because he takes every baserace he can get?
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On May 14 2016 23:21 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 23:21 Cricketer12 wrote:On May 14 2016 23:17 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 14 2016 23:17 Cricketer12 wrote:
I am very happy this is the first sc2 i have watched in months Oh man and I thought I had no passion. I saw pl 2 months back i think...i dont like legacy that much...oh yea i saw dear lose to zest...so i have watched occasionally but overall infrequent sine new years Your posting's also super slowed down in recent years, I think. 
???i made the account in 2012 may. In oct 2014 i had 500 posts. Last may i was at 5000 then summer i was overseas with family so i couldnt post for months. Then legacy came out. But dont worry, I'm coming back ^^
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On May 14 2016 23:20 Nine Gates wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 23:17 kaykoose wrote:
One thing is clear: Polt has truly lost his Korean superpowers I'd say his Korean superpowers are stronger than ever. The Korean magic is not dropping out of the tournament to a foreigner no matter what. How many times have you seen a Korean come back from 0-2 against a foreigner, or win a game from 50 workers below? Polt's magic was so strong, he was seconds away from losing yet turned everything around anyway.
hmm.... He lost to Firecake the other week, but this is still a good point
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On May 14 2016 23:23 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 23:19 Makro wrote:
at the end of the day that was an admin decision, you can't hate polt for this fnatic had to give up her game vs LDLC when they abused pixelboosts with olof on Overpass. I believe the "anti ladder statemate" timer shouldnt be a WCS rule and is not in the rulebook, is it? Polt could have agreed that it was a loss as it was. He would have lost the marines + building. In my book; bad admin call and worse decision by Polt to take the rematch. Simply not very mannered.
Both players saw the timers and were aware of the situation.
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United States97277 Posts
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On May 14 2016 23:22 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 23:21 Yiome wrote:On May 14 2016 23:18 kaykoose wrote:On May 14 2016 23:18 Yiome wrote:
Never a polt fan
Never will be
enough said Because he won? Because his play style But nevermind that Hopefully we can get more "normal" matches from now on What playstyle it was Strange who played super dirty
There's nothing as dirty as a basetrading Terran
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On May 14 2016 23:23 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:On May 14 2016 23:20 juvenal wrote:On May 14 2016 23:00 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 14 2016 23:00 juvenal wrote:On May 14 2016 22:53 Elentos wrote:On May 14 2016 22:52 Ej_ wrote:On May 14 2016 22:51 travis wrote:
so people are mad because...?
sounds like the game worked how the game is programmed to work because this wasnt actually a draw Or it wouldn't have been if Strange had the balls to go kill him with the units he has. But if he was aware of the timer, that means he accepted the game would end in a tie. the question is: will Polt demonstrate enough balls to forfeit this game, because he lost it fair and square. Not according to the engine. hurr durr the engine is planet Earth's physics, get over it (that goal was never disallowed)! Right? Now do you wanna play the game or pick funny excuses? Polt played for the draw and Strange gave him enough time to get there. That's a legitimate move in a game of Starcraft, and apparently Dreamhack hadn't accounted for this. Polt playing out the re-game was not a show of poor sportsmanship. This, oh this!! Don't get why people don't get that!
Because playing for a draw never before had a designer-put countdown in the game. I will put it like this:
The 3 minute timer could have forced Strange to rush things and actually make him lose the game while a slow methodical play got him the win yet Blizzard and Dreamhack decided he didnt win.
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On May 14 2016 23:23 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 23:19 Makro wrote:
at the end of the day that was an admin decision, you can't hate polt for this fnatic had to give up her game vs LDLC when they abused pixelboosts with olof on Overpass. I believe the "anti ladder statemate" timer shouldnt be a WCS rule and is not in the rulebook, is it? Polt could have agreed that it was a loss as it was. He would have lost the marines + building. In my book; bad admin call and worse decision by Polt to take the rematch. Simply not very mannered.
i understand your point of view which is indeed fair
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Australia18228 Posts
On May 14 2016 23:23 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 23:19 Makro wrote:
at the end of the day that was an admin decision, you can't hate polt for this fnatic had to give up her game vs LDLC when they abused pixelboosts with olof on Overpass. I believe the "anti ladder statemate" timer shouldnt be a WCS rule and is not in the rulebook, is it? Polt could have agreed that it was a loss as it was. He would have lost the marines + building. In my book; bad admin call and worse decision by Polt to take the rematch. Simply not very mannered.
He would not have been in that position if the timer wasn't there. He would've played completely different if the goal was to kill voidray/assimilator and not waste 3 minutes
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On May 14 2016 23:24 juvenal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:On May 14 2016 23:20 juvenal wrote:On May 14 2016 23:00 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 14 2016 23:00 juvenal wrote:On May 14 2016 22:53 Elentos wrote:On May 14 2016 22:52 Ej_ wrote:On May 14 2016 22:51 travis wrote:
so people are mad because...?
sounds like the game worked how the game is programmed to work because this wasnt actually a draw Or it wouldn't have been if Strange had the balls to go kill him with the units he has. But if he was aware of the timer, that means he accepted the game would end in a tie. the question is: will Polt demonstrate enough balls to forfeit this game, because he lost it fair and square. Not according to the engine. hurr durr the engine is planet Earth's physics, get over it (that goal was never disallowed)! Right? Now do you wanna play the game or pick funny excuses? Polt played for the draw and Strange gave him enough time to get there. That's a legitimate move in a game of Starcraft, and apparently Dreamhack hadn't accounted for this. Polt playing out the re-game was not a show of poor sportsmanship. that goal was just as legitimate. Enjoy the legitimacy, yay!
It wasn't a legitimate goal and the fact that it wasn't disallowed is a sign of poor refereeing (and higher up decision-making).
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On May 14 2016 23:23 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 23:19 Makro wrote:
at the end of the day that was an admin decision, you can't hate polt for this fnatic had to give up her game vs LDLC when they abused pixelboosts with olof on Overpass. I believe the "anti ladder statemate" timer shouldnt be a WCS rule and is not in the rulebook, is it? Polt could have agreed that it was a loss as it was. He would have lost the marines + building. In my book; bad admin call and worse decision by Polt to take the rematch. Simply not very mannered.
Polts actions in the game have been focused arround the timer. You can either replay from the first show of the timer or simply rematch the game. But just giving strange the win is not the right way.
In CS:GO there is a specific rule "pixelwalks are forbidden". In Starcraft there is not.
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Canada2764 Posts
On May 14 2016 23:25 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 23:23 Incognoto wrote:On May 14 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:On May 14 2016 23:20 juvenal wrote:On May 14 2016 23:00 IntoTheheart wrote:On May 14 2016 23:00 juvenal wrote:On May 14 2016 22:53 Elentos wrote:On May 14 2016 22:52 Ej_ wrote:On May 14 2016 22:51 travis wrote:
so people are mad because...?
sounds like the game worked how the game is programmed to work because this wasnt actually a draw Or it wouldn't have been if Strange had the balls to go kill him with the units he has. But if he was aware of the timer, that means he accepted the game would end in a tie. the question is: will Polt demonstrate enough balls to forfeit this game, because he lost it fair and square. Not according to the engine. hurr durr the engine is planet Earth's physics, get over it (that goal was never disallowed)! Right? Now do you wanna play the game or pick funny excuses? Polt played for the draw and Strange gave him enough time to get there. That's a legitimate move in a game of Starcraft, and apparently Dreamhack hadn't accounted for this. Polt playing out the re-game was not a show of poor sportsmanship. This, oh this!! Don't get why people don't get that! Because playing for a draw never before had a designer-put countdown in the game. I will put it like this: The 3 minute timer could have forced Strange to rush things and actually make him lose the game while a slow methodical play got him the win yet Blizzard and Dreamhack decided he didnt win.
I don't see it that way. The timer is part of the game, a part of the game that Strange saw and realized, and he misplayed around it. He saw and was aware of this possibility of losing, and he misplayed anyway. If you want this to not happen in the future, make a rule about it.
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On May 14 2016 23:23 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2016 23:19 Makro wrote:
at the end of the day that was an admin decision, you can't hate polt for this fnatic had to give up her game vs LDLC when they abused pixelboosts with olof on Overpass. I believe the "anti ladder statemate" timer shouldnt be a WCS rule and is not in the rulebook, is it? Polt could have agreed that it was a loss as it was. He would have lost the marines + building. In my book; bad admin call and worse decision by Polt to take the rematch. Simply not very mannered.
Unless there IS a rule in the WCS rulebook this is the only fair decision. You can't decide against a regame because of what you feel is fair. Both players saw the timer and presumably played out the game with it in mind. That's all that matters.
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Cyclone can't do shit as long as gateway units cover warp prism.
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