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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
March 03 2016 20:56 GMT
#1541
On March 04 2016 05:55 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 05:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 04 2016 05:53 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On March 04 2016 05:52 PrebenHood wrote:
man im so sick of no terrans ever making it far in foreign tournaments.. always a ton of zergs few toss and no terran.. must be a coincidence, or maybe terran is just way harder to play

flimsy units and multitasking needed, misscontrols cost dearly.

Happy could make it if he knew how to macro. Maybe if he and Major combined their powers somehow

Would also need any amount of game sense

Well that's a problem that's been holding back non-Korean Terrans for many years.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
March 03 2016 20:56 GMT
#1542
On March 04 2016 05:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 05:53 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On March 04 2016 05:52 PrebenHood wrote:
man im so sick of no terrans ever making it far in foreign tournaments.. always a ton of zergs few toss and no terran.. must be a coincidence, or maybe terran is just way harder to play

flimsy units and multitasking needed, misscontrols cost dearly.

Happy could make it if he knew how to macro. Maybe if he and Major combined their powers somehow

its kinda depressing how far the gap has become. laughable even
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Sogetsu
Profile Joined July 2011
514 Posts
March 03 2016 20:56 GMT
#1543
On March 04 2016 05:53 VengefulTree wrote:
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On March 04 2016 05:50 Aocowns wrote:
ZvT looks so stupid now, why cant we just go back to the actually good match up of muta/ling/bane vs bio/mine or bio/tank


It's much more varied though. I like it, they just need to nerf ultras, green bombs and libs I guess


Exactly that ^

I hated so much the HotS meta in TvZ that I was glad watching Turtle Mech games only because it was the alternative to the old meta.

I like a lot the new TvZ in LotV and it could change soonish with those changes VangefulTree mentioned, and also if they change the Tankivac issue.
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24227 Posts
March 03 2016 20:56 GMT
#1544
On March 04 2016 05:56 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 05:55 HellHound wrote:
On March 04 2016 05:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 04 2016 05:53 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On March 04 2016 05:52 PrebenHood wrote:
man im so sick of no terrans ever making it far in foreign tournaments.. always a ton of zergs few toss and no terran.. must be a coincidence, or maybe terran is just way harder to play

flimsy units and multitasking needed, misscontrols cost dearly.

Happy could make it if he knew how to macro. Maybe if he and Major combined their powers somehow

Would also need any amount of game sense

Well that's a problem that's been holding back non-Korean Terrans for many years.

Polt should give lessons
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16092 Posts
March 03 2016 20:56 GMT
#1545
On March 04 2016 05:55 Sif_ wrote:
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On March 04 2016 05:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 04 2016 05:51 klup wrote:
Parasitic bomb is so a stupid spell.


And yet without it, Zerg doesn't stand a chance vs Mass Liberator.

I will continue to preach it. LoTV units are too strong for all 3 races right now and as a result we have a lot of stupid balance dynamics like Parasitic Bomb and Tankivacs that are unhealthy for the game.


violet seemed to be doing pretty well against it with corruptors only, vipers were overkill


That was because Marinelord was being retarded with his Liberator micro. Sieging half of them when his opponent's army was entirely in the sky.

He had a brilliant opportunity to just end the game with his first push of Banshee/Liberator but he completely failed his Liberator control.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
March 03 2016 20:56 GMT
#1546
On March 04 2016 05:55 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 05:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 04 2016 05:51 klup wrote:
Parasitic bomb is so a stupid spell.


And yet without it, Zerg doesn't stand a chance vs Mass Liberator.

I will continue to preach it. LoTV units are too strong for all 3 races right now and as a result we have a lot of stupid balance dynamics like Parasitic Bomb and Tankivacs that are unhealthy for the game.


violet seemed to be doing pretty well against it with corruptors only, vipers were overkill

Only reason mlord didn't kill him with his lib banshee push was because he sieged half his libs
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
March 03 2016 20:56 GMT
#1547
On March 04 2016 05:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 05:52 Sif_ wrote:
parasitic bomb shouldnt stack (like storms) and do friendly fire


Are you serious? With friendly fire you should only ever cast it on your own units and try to suicide bomb the opponent.


friendly fire would reward the terran for actually splitting and maybe sending them over to the Z army.

god forbid the zerg has to micro back, huh?
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
March 03 2016 20:57 GMT
#1548
Why are people ragging on pbomb when it is basically irradiate? The only thing I wish would change was that once the unit dies the cloud goes away. I would like to see more experimentation with possibly baiting out the pbomb and simply running away, repair up and then try and pick the fight again.
Wat
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
March 03 2016 20:57 GMT
#1549
I shouldn't have put my hopes so high. Marinelord always choke in LAN.
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
March 03 2016 20:57 GMT
#1550
On March 04 2016 05:56 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 05:55 Sif_ wrote:
On March 04 2016 05:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 04 2016 05:51 klup wrote:
Parasitic bomb is so a stupid spell.


And yet without it, Zerg doesn't stand a chance vs Mass Liberator.

I will continue to preach it. LoTV units are too strong for all 3 races right now and as a result we have a lot of stupid balance dynamics like Parasitic Bomb and Tankivacs that are unhealthy for the game.


violet seemed to be doing pretty well against it with corruptors only, vipers were overkill

Only reason mlord didn't kill him with his lib banshee push was because he sieged half his libs


he sieged 3 out of 11 liberators
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
March 03 2016 20:57 GMT
#1551
On March 04 2016 05:54 MrMotionPicture wrote:
Polt v Hydra finals inc.
Who woulda thought?


So....how long till they're banned from WCS too?
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24227 Posts
March 03 2016 20:57 GMT
#1552
On March 04 2016 05:57 Otolia wrote:
I shouldn't have put my hopes so high. Marinelord always choke in LAN.

He lost to viOLet, that guy is good. But yeah, I expected him to make a deep run at last.
holzofenbrot
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany52 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-03 20:59:54
March 03 2016 20:58 GMT
#1553
I think Marinelord would have won easily if he got Banshee speed before he threw them all away to kill drones. Maybe even snipe Spire?

sad thing is that the lower bracket is now only zergs basically and the only foreigner hopes are Firecake, Nerchio and Snute.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
March 03 2016 20:58 GMT
#1554
On March 04 2016 05:56 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 05:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 04 2016 05:52 Sif_ wrote:
parasitic bomb shouldnt stack (like storms) and do friendly fire


Are you serious? With friendly fire you should only ever cast it on your own units and try to suicide bomb the opponent.


friendly fire would reward the terran for actually splitting and maybe sending them over to the Z army.

god forbid the zerg has to micro back, huh?

You realise the terran also has splash units?
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
March 03 2016 20:58 GMT
#1555
On March 04 2016 05:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 05:57 Otolia wrote:
I shouldn't have put my hopes so high. Marinelord always choke in LAN.

He lost to viOLet, that guy is good. But yeah, I expected him to make a deep run at last.

It is the first time in forever viOlet has beaten a good player though.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24227 Posts
March 03 2016 20:58 GMT
#1556
On March 04 2016 05:57 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 05:54 MrMotionPicture wrote:
Polt v Hydra finals inc.
Who woulda thought?


So....how long till they're banned from WCS too?

maybe we get Nerchio vs Neeb or Snute and everyone goes crazy
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
March 03 2016 20:58 GMT
#1557
On March 04 2016 05:57 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 05:56 HellHound wrote:
On March 04 2016 05:55 Sif_ wrote:
On March 04 2016 05:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 04 2016 05:51 klup wrote:
Parasitic bomb is so a stupid spell.


And yet without it, Zerg doesn't stand a chance vs Mass Liberator.

I will continue to preach it. LoTV units are too strong for all 3 races right now and as a result we have a lot of stupid balance dynamics like Parasitic Bomb and Tankivacs that are unhealthy for the game.


violet seemed to be doing pretty well against it with corruptors only, vipers were overkill

Only reason mlord didn't kill him with his lib banshee push was because he sieged half his libs


he sieged 3 out of 11 liberators

More than 25% of his AA then
Clever of him
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-03 20:59:44
March 03 2016 20:59 GMT
#1558
On March 04 2016 05:56 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 05:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 04 2016 05:52 Sif_ wrote:
parasitic bomb shouldnt stack (like storms) and do friendly fire


Are you serious? With friendly fire you should only ever cast it on your own units and try to suicide bomb the opponent.


friendly fire would reward the terran for actually splitting and maybe sending them over to the Z army.

god forbid the zerg has to micro back, huh?


Friendly fire is the most idiotic change to propose to parasitic bomb. It doesn't promote anything at all least of all micro except not using it or trying to suicide bomb your opponent.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24227 Posts
March 03 2016 20:59 GMT
#1559
On March 04 2016 05:58 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 05:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 04 2016 05:57 Otolia wrote:
I shouldn't have put my hopes so high. Marinelord always choke in LAN.

He lost to viOLet, that guy is good. But yeah, I expected him to make a deep run at last.

It is the first time in forever viOlet has beaten a good player though.

true, true. But I believe in preparation and -especially- in experience
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28491 Posts
March 03 2016 20:59 GMT
#1560
The general sacrifice is what gave Violet the win, duh
I Protoss winner, could it be?
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