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Longduzboub
Profile Joined June 2013
40 Posts
January 15 2016 12:41 GMT
#641
On January 15 2016 21:34 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 21:34 Swisslink wrote:
On January 15 2016 21:31 Longduzboub wrote:
I wish Zergs were as honest


Well, let's be honest, there is not a single matchup, where Zerg is as broken as Protoss in PvT. I mean, Zerg is obviously favoured against Protoss and I doubt anyone is going to argue about it - but while there definitely are some Protoss that beat Zerg, I just don't see a Terran winning a TvP with the current patch.


Dingit?

This.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 15 2016 12:42 GMT
#642
On January 15 2016 21:34 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 21:31 Longduzboub wrote:
I wish Zergs were as honest


Well, let's be honest, there is not a single matchup, where Zerg is as broken as Protoss in PvT. I mean, Zerg is obviously favoured against Protoss and I doubt anyone is going to argue about it - but while there definitely are some Protoss that beat Zerg, I just don't see a Terran winning a TvP with the current patch.

Terrans who met Protoss in their Code A qualification and won:
Innovation, GumiHo, Journey, Dream, Speed, Maru, Reality

I checked something like half of the qualifications, then I get bored. It doesn't look that Terrans cannot win.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
January 15 2016 12:42 GMT
#643
Damnit, watched without sound. I just heard, did Tasteless almost die of laughing?
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
January 15 2016 12:44 GMT
#644
On January 15 2016 21:42 Rollora wrote:
Damnit, watched without sound. I just heard, did Tasteless almost die of laughing?


he laughed at the 2nd engagement on orbital shipyard where seed fucked up royally the first and just dominated the second.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 15 2016 12:44 GMT
#645
if you live by the adept, you're gonna die by the adept
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 12:49:34
January 15 2016 12:45 GMT
#646
On January 15 2016 21:42 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 21:34 Swisslink wrote:
On January 15 2016 21:31 Longduzboub wrote:
I wish Zergs were as honest


Well, let's be honest, there is not a single matchup, where Zerg is as broken as Protoss in PvT. I mean, Zerg is obviously favoured against Protoss and I doubt anyone is going to argue about it - but while there definitely are some Protoss that beat Zerg, I just don't see a Terran winning a TvP with the current patch.

Terrans who met Protoss in their Code A qualification and won:
Innovation, GumiHo, Journey, Dream, Speed, Maru, Reality

I think noone said you cannot win with T, I think its about Adepts just beeing ridiculously strong and if oyu don't kill with it you can keep the T so busy you kill him with the follow up. Or you force him into tech you can counter easily. Make marauder? Well make oracle then... (or something like that).
Besides: Innovation, GumiHo (lately), Dream, Maru and Reality are Code S Material that are possible kandidates that could go through until finals (I dunno about Journey, Speed, didn't watch their games in 2015 and lately). So its kinda expected from them overcoming the "odds".
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
January 15 2016 12:46 GMT
#647
On January 15 2016 21:42 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 21:34 Swisslink wrote:
On January 15 2016 21:31 Longduzboub wrote:
I wish Zergs were as honest


Well, let's be honest, there is not a single matchup, where Zerg is as broken as Protoss in PvT. I mean, Zerg is obviously favoured against Protoss and I doubt anyone is going to argue about it - but while there definitely are some Protoss that beat Zerg, I just don't see a Terran winning a TvP with the current patch.

Terrans who met Protoss in their Code A qualification and won:
Innovation, GumiHo, Journey, Dream, Speed, Maru, Reality

I checked something like half of the qualifications, then I get bored. It doesn't look that Terrans cannot win.


I don't think those statistics mean much when we've seen an example of a potential problem. If the other protosses played much worse or didn't pick up on these builds, sure, but you can't look at the past games and tell me Seed's build was fair for a terran to deal with.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 15 2016 12:48 GMT
#648
On January 15 2016 21:45 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 21:42 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 15 2016 21:34 Swisslink wrote:
On January 15 2016 21:31 Longduzboub wrote:
I wish Zergs were as honest


Well, let's be honest, there is not a single matchup, where Zerg is as broken as Protoss in PvT. I mean, Zerg is obviously favoured against Protoss and I doubt anyone is going to argue about it - but while there definitely are some Protoss that beat Zerg, I just don't see a Terran winning a TvP with the current patch.

Terrans who met Protoss in their Code A qualification and won:
Innovation, GumiHo, Journey, Dream, Speed, Maru, Reality

I think noone said you cannot win with T, I think its about Adepts just beeing ridiculously strong and if oyu don't kill with it you can keep the T so busy you kill him with the follow up. Or you force him into tech you can counter easily. Make marauder? Well make oracle then... (or something like that).

not to mention that excluding all balance stuff, it's just terrible design. "Hey, let me shade in my army onto yours so you can't get the angle that you set up for." and not to mention all the other things a player has to worry about with the ability to shade in for a free scout, cancel the shade, whatever.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 12:55:20
January 15 2016 12:50 GMT
#649
On January 15 2016 21:45 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 21:42 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 15 2016 21:34 Swisslink wrote:
On January 15 2016 21:31 Longduzboub wrote:
I wish Zergs were as honest


Well, let's be honest, there is not a single matchup, where Zerg is as broken as Protoss in PvT. I mean, Zerg is obviously favoured against Protoss and I doubt anyone is going to argue about it - but while there definitely are some Protoss that beat Zerg, I just don't see a Terran winning a TvP with the current patch.

Terrans who met Protoss in their Code A qualification and won:
Innovation, GumiHo, Journey, Dream, Speed, Maru, Reality

I think noone said you cannot win with T, I think its about Adepts just beeing ridiculously strong and if oyu don't kill with it you can keep the T so busy you kill him with the follow up. Or you force him into tech you can counter easily. Make marauder? Well make oracle then... (or something like that).
Besides: Innovation, GumiHo (lately), Dream, Maru and Reality are Code S Material that are possible kandidates that could go through until finals (I dunno about Journey, Speed, didn't watch their games in 2015 and lately). So its kinda expected from them overcoming the "odds".

He said that. Check on what am I reacting, omfg.

Edit: I agree that early game TvP is way beyond bad, but there are Terrans winning and they are winning over Code S level players. But saying that Terran cannot win TvP is just BS when TvP is around 50-50 and ZvP is 60-40... c'mon!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
January 15 2016 12:52 GMT
#650
Stupid VOD is broken. Stuck at 49 even though I can see broadcast is over 3 hours long.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 15 2016 12:54 GMT
#651
On January 15 2016 21:52 Mozdk wrote:
Stupid VOD is broken. Stuck at 49 even though I can see broadcast is over 3 hours long.

david kim does not want you to see what happened next
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
January 15 2016 12:55 GMT
#652
Well I want to see!
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 15 2016 12:56 GMT
#653
On January 15 2016 21:54 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 21:52 Mozdk wrote:
Stupid VOD is broken. Stuck at 49 even though I can see broadcast is over 3 hours long.

david kim does not want you to see what happened next

"Forgotten Code S Champion is given a new unit. What happens next will shock you."
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
January 15 2016 12:58 GMT
#654
On January 15 2016 16:20 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 16:13 neoghaleon55 wrote:
who the hell is DRG ling?lol

some poser who beat Ryung
Urgh. I wasted a liquid bet on this?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 15 2016 13:01 GMT
#655
On January 15 2016 21:58 achan1058 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 16:20 Shellshock wrote:
On January 15 2016 16:13 neoghaleon55 wrote:
who the hell is DRG ling?lol

some poser who beat Ryung
Urgh. I wasted a liquid bet on this?

I cannot believe I believed in Bomber
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 15 2016 13:02 GMT
#656
On January 15 2016 22:01 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 21:58 achan1058 wrote:
On January 15 2016 16:20 Shellshock wrote:
On January 15 2016 16:13 neoghaleon55 wrote:
who the hell is DRG ling?lol

some poser who beat Ryung
Urgh. I wasted a liquid bet on this?

I cannot believe I believed in Bomber

if i believed in the adept i'd be 3/3
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 15 2016 13:03 GMT
#657
On January 15 2016 22:02 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 22:01 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 15 2016 21:58 achan1058 wrote:
On January 15 2016 16:20 Shellshock wrote:
On January 15 2016 16:13 neoghaleon55 wrote:
who the hell is DRG ling?lol

some poser who beat Ryung
Urgh. I wasted a liquid bet on this?

I cannot believe I believed in Bomber

if i believed in the adept i'd be 3/3

I believed in power of Stats and it failed me. I predicted both PvX wrong, damn it!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28500 Posts
January 15 2016 13:04 GMT
#658
Sojung knows all the k-pop faces
I Protoss winner, could it be?
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 15 2016 13:06 GMT
#659
i like this starcraft 2 show, summing up everything pretty nicely for the koreans and there's some subtitles in these segments!
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 15 2016 13:06 GMT
#660
On January 15 2016 22:02 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 22:01 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 15 2016 21:58 achan1058 wrote:
On January 15 2016 16:20 Shellshock wrote:
On January 15 2016 16:13 neoghaleon55 wrote:
who the hell is DRG ling?lol

some poser who beat Ryung
Urgh. I wasted a liquid bet on this?

I cannot believe I believed in Bomber

if i believed in the adept i'd be 3/3

in what did you believe then ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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