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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On December 14 2015 07:35 TheDougler wrote: I would. Yup. I wouldn't be as confident with Ukraine vs Poland (mostly because Nerchio's ZvZ is SICK) but yeah. I'd say it'd be a pretty big suprise if either Ukraine or Canada got like 2 maps off Poland no bias | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On December 14 2015 07:36 Alchemik wrote: I'd say it'd be a pretty big suprise if either Ukraine or Canada got like 2 maps off Poland no bias consdering your ace is nerchio, i agree with your statement | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8324 Posts
On December 14 2015 07:36 Alchemik wrote: I'd say it'd be a pretty big suprise if either Ukraine or Canada got like 2 maps off Poland no bias Canada I think could. I forgot you guys have Mana as well when I first made that statement. Still, did you see Scarlett the other day? She's back in form. I'd like to say no bias... But I'm not sure I can. | ||
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Alchemik
Poland7124 Posts
On December 14 2015 07:39 TheDougler wrote: Canada I think could. I forgot you guys have Mana as well when I first made that statement. Still, did you see Scarlett the other day? She's back in form. I'd like to say no bias... But I'm not sure I can. well Canada has two players, one of them plays Dota and the other one's on EG | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8324 Posts
On December 14 2015 07:39 Alchemik wrote: well Canada has two players, one of them plays Dota and the other one's on EG Hah! Fair enough. | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3434 Posts
1. Double elimination final bracket. Korea will most likely roll over everyone and they can potentially eliminate the two other best nations in the tournament if the draw is unfortunate, resulting in a rather anti-climactic finals. Maybe make the loser bracket matches bo3 instead of bo5 to make it happen? 2. 4 player teams with no revive system. Deeper rosters + sniping that key player (and there are quite a few teams that rely on a single person doing very well) would mean so much more. Deciding which player plays when would have more impact, as well. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8324 Posts
On December 14 2015 07:55 Musicus wrote: Korea, Poland, Finland and France seems like a nice top4. And until then Stephano and Lilbow have a lot of time to improve, so they could actually make the final with the french crowd behind them. It'd be nice, but Canada will dream crush. I'll sig-bet on that if anyone is interested. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On December 14 2015 07:54 True_Spike wrote: For next iteration of Nation Wars I really feel two changes would be very welcome: 1. Double elimination final bracket. Korea will most likely roll over everyone and they can potentially eliminate the two other best nations in the tournament if the draw is unfortunate, resulting in a rather anti-climactic finals. Maybe make the loser bracket matches bo3 instead of bo5 to make it happen? 2. 4 player teams with no revive system. Deeper rosters + sniping that key player (and there are quite a few teams that rely on a single person doing very well) would mean so much more. Deciding which player plays when would have more impact, as well. I entirely disagree with the first change. Double elimination just draws out the tournament way too much and reduces viewer interest. A bo3 or bo5 also doesn't work at all with nation war's format. The second change could be okay. It would probably mean lower quality games on average though. | ||
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FrkFrJss
Canada1208 Posts
On December 14 2015 07:54 True_Spike wrote: For next iteration of Nation Wars I really feel two changes would be very welcome: 1. Double elimination final bracket. Korea will most likely roll over everyone and they can potentially eliminate the two other best nations in the tournament if the draw is unfortunate, resulting in a rather anti-climactic finals. Maybe make the loser bracket matches bo3 instead of bo5 to make it happen? 2. 4 player teams with no revive system. Deeper rosters + sniping that key player (and there are quite a few teams that rely on a single person doing very well) would mean so much more. Deciding which player plays when would have more impact, as well. To be fair, except for Ukraine, every advancement match was won predominantly by one person--including Korea. Besides, I think we've seen that the "best" teams may not actually be the "best" teams. There have been a number of upsets here, and some unexpected players have played very well. | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3434 Posts
On December 14 2015 07:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I entirely disagree with the first change. Double elimination just draws out the tournament way too much and reduces viewer interest. A bo3 or bo5 also doesn't work at all with nation war's format. The second change could be okay. It would probably mean lower quality games on average though. All the games in NW3 are Bo7 now (sorry for saying Bo5 before, I'm sleepy as hell at this point  ) | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8324 Posts
They're BO9 actually. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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True_Spike
Poland3434 Posts
On December 14 2015 08:00 FrkFrJss wrote: To be fair, except for Ukraine, every advancement match was won predominantly by one person--including Korea. Besides, I think we've seen that the "best" teams may not actually be the "best" teams. There have been a number of upsets here, and some unexpected players have played very well. Exactly my point Sniping Innovation would mean so much more if he couldn't just come back to all-kill Finland. Showtime defeating Serral would be more impactful. Bly lost vs China but could come back to secure the win. The games would be much more strategical and impactful if the key player (and like I said before there's often one player that's clearly better than the rest) if he couldn't just come back after losing. | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3434 Posts
We're both wrong, they're Bo7 (as in a maximum of 7 games can be played). Bo5 LB would work well, my opinion. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8324 Posts
On December 14 2015 08:08 True_Spike wrote: We're both wrong, they're Bo7 (as in a maximum of 7 games can be played). Bo5 LB would work well, my opinion. Unless wikipedia is incorrect all matches are BO9 from here on out: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/NationWars_III As in maximum of 9 games can be played. Edit: Unless you mean, the losers bracket last round should have been BO5 and not Bo7, but I think the group stage worked pretty well as BO7 personally. | ||
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Faefae
2203 Posts
On December 14 2015 07:54 True_Spike wrote: For next iteration of Nation Wars I really feel two changes would be very welcome: 1. Double elimination final bracket. Korea will most likely roll over everyone and they can potentially eliminate the two other best nations in the tournament if the draw is unfortunate, resulting in a rather anti-climactic finals. Maybe make the loser bracket matches bo3 instead of bo5 to make it happen? 2. 4 player teams with no revive system. Deeper rosters + sniping that key player (and there are quite a few teams that rely on a single person doing very well) would mean so much more. Deciding which player plays when would have more impact, as well. Agree for both, but n°2 make it hard for small nation that have 3 good players but can't find a 4th one; and n°1 is make it harder to organize | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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