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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 07 2015 22:21 GMT
#2081
On November 08 2015 07:19 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:19 stuchiu wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:16 Ej_ wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:15 stuchiu wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:13 Ej_ wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:12 stuchiu wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:10 nimdil wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:08 Solar424 wrote:
As much as I love life, I really want Rogue to win this. He deserves a win, and Life and sOs already have a Blizzcon.

No. Life has to win more premiers than TaeJa, impress more than Mvp and cash in more than MC.


You cant impress more than Mvp since he'd have to break his back first and then fight bl/infestor.

lol are you seriously going to keep going for the "MVP WAS SO GOOD BECAUSE HE WAS CRIPPLED"?


Prove to me he was not dealing with injuries then.

"you can't prove God doesn't exist"


But I can prove Mvp had injuries.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/w6yat/mvps_injury_cervical_kyphosis/

http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4047287

it's impossible to know how much he would have won without them, you can't reasonably compare Life to a hypothetical player


I'm more impressed by a guy who kept winning despite career-ending injruies, am I supposed to not be impressed?
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
November 07 2015 22:21 GMT
#2082
On November 08 2015 07:20 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:17 pure.Wasted wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:15 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:14 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:12 Pursuit_ wrote:
I'm always going to remember Classic as the mediocre Terran who switched to Protoss and suddenly had great results :D

But man, Life really pouring on aggressive builds that everyone says 'dont work anymore' and taking out all the top players. Makes me feel less bad about losing to aggression so often :D

Yes, he switched to a race which is better for him. Flash should have switch to Protoss and he would be a baller, I think that is more mech race than Terran is.


I thought it was already established that most terrans from BW would feel better as protoss in SC2, and most protoss as terrans


BW Protoss would feel comfortable as SC2 Terran?

W..h..y..?



I don't know, I haven't played BW, I thought it was established.


I was a Protoss in BW, still am. The major disppointment for me is how weak Storm has gotten.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
November 07 2015 22:21 GMT
#2083
On November 08 2015 07:20 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:16 HellHound wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:15 Xoronius wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:10 nimdil wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:08 Solar424 wrote:
As much as I love life, I really want Rogue to win this. He deserves a win, and Life and sOs already have a Blizzcon.

No. Life has to win more premiers than TaeJa, impress more than Mvp and cash in more than MC.

If he wins tonight, he overtakes MC in cash and ties Taeja in premier titels- while having one 2nd place more than Taeja. And he would also become the first one, to win Blizzcon twice. The only thing left between him and the undisputed first rank are the 2 GSL's between him and Mvp.

1 gsl

Depending on the count. If you use the Blizzard cup as a GSL it's 1; by the official Liquipedia count, it's 2.

He beat Mvp in GSL 4 2012
He beat PartinG in Blizzard Cup 2012
He beat PartinG in GSL 1 2015
3 gsls
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
November 07 2015 22:21 GMT
#2084
On November 08 2015 07:20 Popkiller wrote:
Rogue is a bit uncomfortable on camera, it seems?

That's what he wants you to think.
why even
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-07 22:22:11
November 07 2015 22:21 GMT
#2085
On November 08 2015 07:19 CakeSauc3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:17 pure.Wasted wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:15 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:14 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:12 Pursuit_ wrote:
I'm always going to remember Classic as the mediocre Terran who switched to Protoss and suddenly had great results :D

But man, Life really pouring on aggressive builds that everyone says 'dont work anymore' and taking out all the top players. Makes me feel less bad about losing to aggression so often :D

Yes, he switched to a race which is better for him. Flash should have switch to Protoss and he would be a baller, I think that is more mech race than Terran is.


I thought it was already established that most terrans from BW would feel better as protoss in SC2, and most protoss as terrans


BW Protoss would feel comfortable as SC2 Terran?

W..h..y..?



Because BW Protoss was about massing basic units and controlling them well, while SC2 Terran is about the same thing. Likewise, BW Terran was about building up to unstoppable mechanical deathballs, while SC2 Protoss is about building up big deathballs.

On November 08 2015 07:19 CakeSauc3 wrote:
Because BW Protoss was about massing basic units and controlling them well

On November 08 2015 07:19 CakeSauc3 wrote:
controlling them well

On November 08 2015 07:19 CakeSauc3 wrote:
controlling well

On November 08 2015 07:19 CakeSauc3 wrote:
controlling

yeah sure controlling the fuck outta this +1 4gate
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
November 07 2015 22:21 GMT
#2086
On November 08 2015 07:17 Cricketer12 wrote:
if you include blizzard cup...


You're counting the GSL World Championship as well, don't you?
I'd say the Blizzard Cup is "more meaningful" than GSL WC.

+ there were way more GSL tournaments back in MVP's days.

On November 08 2015 07:16 stuchiu wrote:
I'm fine with Life being the greatest, but being the most impressive is a different quality to me.


Well, who has been the most impressive player to you?
I'd say Life and MVP are quite similar in regard to the ruthlessness. MVP was quite well known for his all-ins as well whenever he was under pressure. Same as Life.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24234 Posts
November 07 2015 22:21 GMT
#2087
GOGOGO ROGUE
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
November 07 2015 22:21 GMT
#2088
On November 08 2015 07:19 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:16 Ej_ wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:15 stuchiu wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:13 Ej_ wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:12 stuchiu wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:10 nimdil wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:08 Solar424 wrote:
As much as I love life, I really want Rogue to win this. He deserves a win, and Life and sOs already have a Blizzcon.

No. Life has to win more premiers than TaeJa, impress more than Mvp and cash in more than MC.


You cant impress more than Mvp since he'd have to break his back first and then fight bl/infestor.

lol are you seriously going to keep going for the "MVP WAS SO GOOD BECAUSE HE WAS CRIPPLED"?


Prove to me he was not dealing with injuries then.

"you can't prove God doesn't exist"


But I can prove Mvp had injuries.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/w6yat/mvps_injury_cervical_kyphosis/

http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4047287

No one's saying he wasn't injured. However, there is little sense in saying "Life isn't the greatest because Mvp could have done better". You judge who's the greatest according to cold hard results.
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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
November 07 2015 22:21 GMT
#2089
Sick keyboard for Rogue, love the colors
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 07 2015 22:21 GMT
#2090
I send and sos to the World Finals
I hope that someone stops him
I hope that Rogue can stop him
Protoss in a nutshell
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
November 07 2015 22:22 GMT
#2091
On November 08 2015 07:20 Popkiller wrote:
Rogue is a bit uncomfortable on camera, it seems?

The sexy boy is also a shy boy.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
November 07 2015 22:22 GMT
#2092
Gogo, sexy boy, go to sit somewhere nicely to watch the Life vs. sOs final.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
November 07 2015 22:22 GMT
#2093
On November 08 2015 07:18 Talaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:15 RHoudini wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:11 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:09 RHoudini wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:06 Shellshock wrote:
Life is 10 times better than Mvp. top player in both versions of sc2.

Maybe, but who knows what Mvp would have achieved with good wrists.

Who knows what some random king of France who died at 12 would have done if he didn't die so early?

No king of France has ever played Starcraft.


Stephano did

Touché!
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
November 07 2015 22:22 GMT
#2094
On November 08 2015 07:17 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:15 HellHound wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:14 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:13 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:11 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:09 RHoudini wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:06 Shellshock wrote:
Life is 10 times better than Mvp. top player in both versions of sc2.

Maybe, but who knows what Mvp would have achieved with good wrists.

Who knows what some random king of France who died at 12 would have done if he didn't die so early?

About as little as any other king of France after 16th century, dare i guess.

Hmm, I think you need some history classes about the late 17th-early 18th d;

Enlighten me, huh. history classes in Russia always pictured France kings after 1600 as some useless bodies who had all their work done for them.

That's true for every king.

Not really, our tsars launched a pretty successful war against their own countrymen. I would even say it was a stunning success, that thanks to comrade Stalin, gave birth to modern Russia society. And that was THEIR fucking idea, for our demise.

Rofl your history sucks it was all rasputin's long game
the end game is his reincarnation as putin
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
November 07 2015 22:22 GMT
#2095
On November 08 2015 07:21 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:19 stuchiu wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:16 Ej_ wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:15 stuchiu wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:13 Ej_ wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:12 stuchiu wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:10 nimdil wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:08 Solar424 wrote:
As much as I love life, I really want Rogue to win this. He deserves a win, and Life and sOs already have a Blizzcon.

No. Life has to win more premiers than TaeJa, impress more than Mvp and cash in more than MC.


You cant impress more than Mvp since he'd have to break his back first and then fight bl/infestor.

lol are you seriously going to keep going for the "MVP WAS SO GOOD BECAUSE HE WAS CRIPPLED"?


Prove to me he was not dealing with injuries then.

"you can't prove God doesn't exist"


But I can prove Mvp had injuries.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/w6yat/mvps_injury_cervical_kyphosis/

http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4047287

No one's saying he wasn't injured. However, there is little sense in saying "Life isn't the greatest because Mvp could have done better". You judge who's the greatest according to cold hard results.

Only one of them has 6-pooled in Blizzcon semi-finals. Case closed
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
November 07 2015 22:22 GMT
#2096
On November 08 2015 07:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:17 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:14 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:13 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:11 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:09 RHoudini wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:06 Shellshock wrote:
Life is 10 times better than Mvp. top player in both versions of sc2.

Maybe, but who knows what Mvp would have achieved with good wrists.

Who knows what some random king of France who died at 12 would have done if he didn't die so early?

About as little as any other king of France after 16th century, dare i guess.

Hmm, I think you need some history classes about the late 17th-early 18th d;

Enlighten me, huh. history classes in Russia always pictured France kings after 1600 as some useless bodies who had all their work done for them.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_XIV

Right before your post i wrote about tsars long war against their own people. Absolute monarchy is the name of that war.

Now, with that aside, i concede: he did something, i will just elaborate:

About as little good as any other king of Frace after 16th century, dare i guess.

Ok, that's acceptable (x
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CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
November 07 2015 22:22 GMT
#2097
On November 08 2015 07:21 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:19 CakeSauc3 wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:17 pure.Wasted wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:15 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:14 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:12 Pursuit_ wrote:
I'm always going to remember Classic as the mediocre Terran who switched to Protoss and suddenly had great results :D

But man, Life really pouring on aggressive builds that everyone says 'dont work anymore' and taking out all the top players. Makes me feel less bad about losing to aggression so often :D

Yes, he switched to a race which is better for him. Flash should have switch to Protoss and he would be a baller, I think that is more mech race than Terran is.


I thought it was already established that most terrans from BW would feel better as protoss in SC2, and most protoss as terrans


BW Protoss would feel comfortable as SC2 Terran?

W..h..y..?



Because BW Protoss was about massing basic units and controlling them well, while SC2 Terran is about the same thing. Likewise, BW Terran was about building up to unstoppable mechanical deathballs, while SC2 Protoss is about building up big deathballs.

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:19 CakeSauc3 wrote:
Because BW Protoss was about massing basic units and controlling them well

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:19 CakeSauc3 wrote:
controlling them well

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:19 CakeSauc3 wrote:
controlling well

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:19 CakeSauc3 wrote:
controlling

yeah sure controlling the fuck outta this +1 4gate


uh, what?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 07 2015 22:23 GMT
#2098
On November 08 2015 07:21 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2015 07:19 stuchiu wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:16 Ej_ wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:15 stuchiu wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:13 Ej_ wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:12 stuchiu wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:10 nimdil wrote:
On November 08 2015 07:08 Solar424 wrote:
As much as I love life, I really want Rogue to win this. He deserves a win, and Life and sOs already have a Blizzcon.

No. Life has to win more premiers than TaeJa, impress more than Mvp and cash in more than MC.


You cant impress more than Mvp since he'd have to break his back first and then fight bl/infestor.

lol are you seriously going to keep going for the "MVP WAS SO GOOD BECAUSE HE WAS CRIPPLED"?


Prove to me he was not dealing with injuries then.

"you can't prove God doesn't exist"


But I can prove Mvp had injuries.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/w6yat/mvps_injury_cervical_kyphosis/

http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4047287

No one's saying he wasn't injured. However, there is little sense in saying "Life isn't the greatest because Mvp could have done better". You judge who's the greatest according to cold hard results.

He doesn't say Mvp is greater based on results, he is saying Mvp's success was more impressive
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
November 07 2015 22:23 GMT
#2099
Today is the day, when the
$O$ man

will become the

$$$ MAN!!!!

sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17684 Posts
November 07 2015 22:23 GMT
#2100
lol they're so mean to TLO but he's by far the best player on the couch
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