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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 06 2015 01:41 GMT
#281
No need to quit. I have seen the future

+ Show Spoiler +
herO beats Classic, beats Innovation, and then loses to

+ Show Spoiler +
hydra
rip passion
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
November 06 2015 01:42 GMT
#282
On November 06 2015 10:41 Deathstar wrote:
No need to quit. I have seen the future

+ Show Spoiler +
herO beats Classic, beats Innovation, and then loses to

+ Show Spoiler +
hydra

Hehe :-)
A very improbable bracket :-)
I am starting to like the sOs vs. Life idea ... but Inno is too difficult ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
November 06 2015 01:52 GMT
#283
On November 06 2015 10:41 Deathstar wrote:
No need to quit. I have seen the future

+ Show Spoiler +
herO beats Classic, beats Innovation, and then loses to

+ Show Spoiler +
hydra

Classic beats herO, beats INnoVation, and then lose to sOs
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
November 06 2015 01:54 GMT
#284
As long as it is not a ZvZ finals between two non-elephants, it is okay.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
November 06 2015 01:56 GMT
#285
It will be definitely an elephant final.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
November 06 2015 02:01 GMT
#286
Technically Hydra is the biggest elephant in this tourney because he was the only one to win a BW tourney
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
November 06 2015 02:04 GMT
#287
On November 06 2015 11:01 Solar424 wrote:
Technically Hydra is the biggest elephant in this tourney because he was the only one to win a BW tourney

TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 06 2015 02:18 GMT
#288
On November 06 2015 10:52 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 10:41 Deathstar wrote:
No need to quit. I have seen the future

+ Show Spoiler +
herO beats Classic, beats Innovation, and then loses to

+ Show Spoiler +
hydra

Classic beats herO, beats INnoVation, and then lose to sOs

*beats sOs
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 06 2015 02:20 GMT
#289
Hydra is king of the elephants
rip passion
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 02:25:54
November 06 2015 02:25 GMT
#290
Hydra is a traitor though. Traitors aren't elephants.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 06 2015 02:26 GMT
#291
On November 06 2015 09:33 Shellshock wrote:
When do we admit elephant in the room was right? That's why there were no bonjwas pre kespa transition and the first one will be an elephant, Innovation.


I don't even know who wrote it, but I am still waiting for him to come out and acknowledge how wrong he was. The whole premise turned out to be false and thus the article was nothing but baseless dismissal of the pre-Kespa SC2 players that turned out to be completely undeserved.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 02:50:50
November 06 2015 02:36 GMT
#292
Fun facts time!
These are the top 16's results in HoTS:
[image loading]

Some observations:
- Life has the most top 4 finishes by a small margin over herO and Polt.
- Classic is the only one to have 100% finals record.
- ByuL and Dream are the only ones to make a final and not win one.
- Perhaps unsurprisingly Life closely followed by herO have the most tournament wins in HoTS with 6&5 respectively.
- Zest and Polt are the only ones to win 3 premier events in one year, 2014 (Zest) and 2013 (Polt).
- Rogue and FanTaSy have achieved very little in comparison with the rest only making 1 3rd/4th place finish in HoTS each.
- Also soO is the only player to win a Korean event this year and not make Blizzcon.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
November 06 2015 02:50 GMT
#293
I think the best plauer will win this
yes it's a reasonable time to be awale
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 06 2015 02:52 GMT
#294
On November 06 2015 11:50 OtherWorld wrote:
I think the best plauer will win this
yes it's a reasonable time to be awale

The best player is Classic.
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TL+ Member
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 06 2015 02:54 GMT
#295
On November 06 2015 11:26 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 09:33 Shellshock wrote:
When do we admit elephant in the room was right? That's why there were no bonjwas pre kespa transition and the first one will be an elephant, Innovation.


I don't even know who wrote it, but I am still waiting for him to come out and acknowledge how wrong he was. The whole premise turned out to be false and thus the article was nothing but baseless dismissal of the pre-Kespa SC2 players that turned out to be completely undeserved.


It was clear even in 2011 that there was a pattern of BW champions being too burnt out to do well in SC2. Nada is younger than NesTea, but NesTea was an underperforming strategic player who had an opportunity for a fresh start while Nada had already seen a ton of success and was likely less motivated.

Even the argument that Nada wasn't that good in 2010 doesn't hold water, he was still above NesTea and B-teamers like MarineKing, just check TLPD. And in 2009 he made a deep MSL run, skill doesn't completely vanish in a year.

Also July got 4th place in the last ever GOMTV BW league, he wasn't completely washed up either at 24 when the article was written. Yes he made an SC2 finals unlike Nada, but he had a much worse SC2 career than people who were worse than him at BW.

My point is the article was already wrong when it was written, Nada and July would have been above MKP and Nestea and MC if it was right.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 06 2015 02:54 GMT
#296
On November 06 2015 11:52 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 11:50 OtherWorld wrote:
I think the best plauer will win this
yes it's a reasonable time to be awale

The best player is Classic.

At least you got the team right
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
November 06 2015 02:55 GMT
#297
On November 06 2015 11:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 11:52 The_Templar wrote:
On November 06 2015 11:50 OtherWorld wrote:
I think the best plauer will win this
yes it's a reasonable time to be awale

The best player is Classic.

At least you got the team right

*wrong
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17732 Posts
November 06 2015 02:58 GMT
#298
On November 06 2015 11:26 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 09:33 Shellshock wrote:
When do we admit elephant in the room was right? That's why there were no bonjwas pre kespa transition and the first one will be an elephant, Innovation.


I don't even know who wrote it, but I am still waiting for him to come out and acknowledge how wrong he was. The whole premise turned out to be false and thus the article was nothing but baseless dismissal of the pre-Kespa SC2 players that turned out to be completely undeserved.

reading it again is pretty hilarious actually
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/final-edits/221896-the-elephant-in-the-room

Oh god especially the part from Hot_Bid about Flash and Jaedong. Hot_Bid is a great troll.
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
November 06 2015 02:59 GMT
#299
On November 06 2015 11:26 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 09:33 Shellshock wrote:
When do we admit elephant in the room was right? That's why there were no bonjwas pre kespa transition and the first one will be an elephant, Innovation.


I don't even know who wrote it, but I am still waiting for him to come out and acknowledge how wrong he was. The whole premise turned out to be false and thus the article was nothing but baseless dismissal of the pre-Kespa SC2 players that turned out to be completely undeserved.

It can't be false if it is true though. Elephants dominate everyone.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
November 06 2015 03:00 GMT
#300
On November 06 2015 11:52 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 11:50 OtherWorld wrote:
I think the best plauer will win this
yes it's a reasonable time to be awale

The best player is Classic.

the best player has won several 199K dollars aleady
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