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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 25 2015 03:12 GMT
#1121
Is Life really doing worse now than he was last year before Blizzcon?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-25 03:29:49
October 25 2015 03:28 GMT
#1122
On October 25 2015 12:12 jalstar wrote:
Is Life really doing worse now than he was last year before Blizzcon?


I'd say so. Last year Life top-4ed IEM Toronto at the end of August which was something at least. This year, he has done nothing noteworthy since May. That being said, Life often surprises.

On October 25 2015 12:10 Die4Ever wrote:
well this thread has slowed down, just looking at the deltas and the graphs...


Yeah. Uprooting and transplanting this thread has done it no good .
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-25 04:20:16
October 25 2015 04:18 GMT
#1123
Feeling a profound sense of shame for the lowbrow tastes of the TL community (making a bunch of pleb Hearthstone and Yugioh cards to represent the players), I decided to set things right by making a bunch of MTG cards instead.

I turned half of the Blizzcon attendees into planeswalkers. Didn't have anything witty for the other half so... sucks to be them.

INNOVATION
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SOS
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MARU
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ZEST
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LIFE
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PARTING
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With a bonus spell card for INnoVation to commemorate his victories against soO and ByuL
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Enjoy. ^^
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-25 04:46:23
October 25 2015 04:37 GMT
#1124
On October 25 2015 13:18 pure.Wasted wrote:
Feeling a profound sense of shame for the lowbrow tastes of the TL community (making a bunch of pleb Hearthstone and Yugioh cards to represent the players), I decided to set things right by making a bunch of MTG cards instead.

I turned half of the Blizzcon attendees into planeswalkers. Didn't have anything witty for the other half so... sucks to be them.

INNOVATION
+ Show Spoiler +
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SOS
+ Show Spoiler +
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MARU
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


ZEST
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


LIFE
+ Show Spoiler +
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PARTING
+ Show Spoiler +
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With a bonus spell card for INnoVation to commemorate his victories against soO and ByuL
+ Show Spoiler +
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Enjoy. ^^


I did make a magic card for each player earlier in the thread as a matter of a fact. I made them legendary creatures as opposed to planeswalkers though.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/496795-wcs-global-finals-hype-thread?page=30#588

I like your Life design. Zest and sOs look kinda broken. Turn 2 invisible stalker into turn 3 sOs -2 sounds very scary in modern, and -2 sOs on true-name nemesis breaks legacy. Zest's fateseal 3 ability basically locks your opponent out for the rest of the game. 10/10 They feel very protoss.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-25 06:14:41
October 25 2015 05:48 GMT
#1125
On October 25 2015 13:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2015 13:18 pure.Wasted wrote:
Feeling a profound sense of shame for the lowbrow tastes of the TL community (making a bunch of pleb Hearthstone and Yugioh cards to represent the players), I decided to set things right by making a bunch of MTG cards instead.

I turned half of the Blizzcon attendees into planeswalkers. Didn't have anything witty for the other half so... sucks to be them.

INNOVATION
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


SOS
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


MARU
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


ZEST
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


LIFE
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


PARTING
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


With a bonus spell card for INnoVation to commemorate his victories against soO and ByuL
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Enjoy. ^^


I did make a magic card for each player earlier in the thread as a matter of a fact. I made them legendary creatures as opposed to planeswalkers though.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/496795-wcs-global-finals-hype-thread?page=30#588


Oh, sweet, missed those!

Classic is hilarious. FanTa is spiritually close to a Planeswalker I scrapped (+1, if you have a creature, sacrifice a creature and destroy target creature).

Love your Rain, that could actually be a legit card. Green has all the counter manipulating effects, right? Makes sense to make him U/W then.

edit: there's something very satisfying about just giving INnoVation a shitton of stats and Trample. It just feels right.

I like your Life design. Zest and sOs look kinda broken. Turn 2 invisible stalker into turn 3 sOs -2 sounds very scary in modern, and -2 sOs on true-name nemesis breaks legacy. Zest's fateseal 3 ability basically locks your opponent out for the rest of the game. 10/10 They feel very protoss.


Haha! That's really interesting to hear, I've played MTG for years, but strictly casual, just at home with friends. So I don't really know what's broken and what's not in the competitive world and really had to stab in the dark with these cards. I erm... went for broke with sOs on purpose, but I think I overplayed the fateseal thing with Zest. With something like that, I guess you just feed your opponent non-stop lands, right? So it would make more sense to put that on his -1. With Life, I was actually worried that he wasn't strong enough (esp -1), but I guess he's just more deck-dependent than some others. What do you think about Maru's -7? Too hard to get to to be broken?

The fact that there's a card called Invisible Stalker that makes my sOs OP is too funny. Protection from players, now that's interesting. How is True-Name not broken even without sOs? Blue can counter, white can protect against blue kinda sorta, and black can force sacrifice... are green and red just fucked? :O
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-25 06:43:06
October 25 2015 06:42 GMT
#1126
On October 25 2015 14:48 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2015 13:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 25 2015 13:18 pure.Wasted wrote:
Feeling a profound sense of shame for the lowbrow tastes of the TL community (making a bunch of pleb Hearthstone and Yugioh cards to represent the players), I decided to set things right by making a bunch of MTG cards instead.

I turned half of the Blizzcon attendees into planeswalkers. Didn't have anything witty for the other half so... sucks to be them.

INNOVATION
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


SOS
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


MARU
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


ZEST
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


LIFE
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


PARTING
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


With a bonus spell card for INnoVation to commemorate his victories against soO and ByuL
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Enjoy. ^^


I did make a magic card for each player earlier in the thread as a matter of a fact. I made them legendary creatures as opposed to planeswalkers though.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/496795-wcs-global-finals-hype-thread?page=30#588


Oh, sweet, missed those!

Classic is hilarious. FanTa is spiritually close to a Planeswalker I scrapped (+1, if you have a creature, sacrifice a creature and destroy target creature).

Love your Rain, that could actually be a legit card. Green has all the counter manipulating effects, right? Makes sense to make him U/W then.

edit: there's something very satisfying about just giving INnoVation a shitton of stats and Trample. It just feels right.

Show nested quote +
I like your Life design. Zest and sOs look kinda broken. Turn 2 invisible stalker into turn 3 sOs -2 sounds very scary in modern, and -2 sOs on true-name nemesis breaks legacy. Zest's fateseal 3 ability basically locks your opponent out for the rest of the game. 10/10 They feel very protoss.


Haha! That's really interesting to hear, I've played MTG for years, but strictly casual, just at home with friends. So I don't really know what's broken and what's not in the competitive world and really had to stab in the dark with these cards. I erm... went for broke with sOs on purpose, but I think I overplayed the fateseal thing with Zest. With something like that, I guess you just feed your opponent non-stop lands, right? So it would make more sense to put that on his -1. With Life, I was actually worried that he wasn't strong enough (esp -1), but I guess he's just more deck-dependent than some others. What do you think about Maru's -7? Too hard to get to to be broken?

The fact that there's a card called Invisible Stalker that makes my sOs OP is too funny. Protection from players, now that's interesting. How is True-Name not broken even without sOs? Blue can counter, white can protect against blue kinda sorta, and black can force sacrifice... are green and red just fucked? :O


Well in Legacy everyone but blue is kinda fucked in the first place, but yeah True-Name Nemesis really warped Legacy for a while. Red can get rid of him by waiting until he blocks and casting a skullcrack, or more likely trying to burn out the player. He isn't as popular these days I think?

All the planeswalkers you designed are very strong (probably too strong to be printed), but sOs and Zest were the ones that really struck me as broken. Zest's ability is something that Wizards really would never print since people really feel miserable when they're forced to only draw lands or only draw non-lands. Jace the Mind Sculptor's +2 is similar. Life is strong since you only have to + him twice to ult him and his ult ends the game against a fair percentage of decks, though he does nothing against some decks. Maru's -7 is very strong too (again you only have to plus him twice to get there, and you don't even lose Maru). It mayn't be played a lot since his -1 is very good though.

So yeah from a game design perspective your cards are too strong in general and/or have stuff that Wizards would never print (+2/+2 counters for example), or are out of colour (giving haste isn't very blue). Many of mine too for that matter. Rain basically reads I win the game in 6 turns for example, though I could see a tuned down version of it being printed (actually while I didn't realize it at the time, the card Azor's Elocutors is pretty similar). Our cards do embody the players though, which is much more important.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
October 25 2015 06:46 GMT
#1127
I remember first playing MTG when i was like 10 and thinking killer bees were the best. Tap mana, more attack, yeeeeah!
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-25 08:10:39
October 25 2015 08:10 GMT
#1128
Man these Hearthstone and YuGioh cards are getting out of control, how do you guys have time to make these? I mean they are pretty impressive, but still...
Roadog
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1670 Posts
October 25 2015 08:16 GMT
#1129
On October 25 2015 17:10 MiniFotToss wrote:
Man these Hearthstone and YuGioh cards are getting out of control, how do you guys have time to make these? I mean they are pretty impressive, but still...

We have generators for them. Just type in some text and upload an image into a template and poof!
sOs fan. Zerg just seem to have the most...potential. Dubbo Robo Colo! Why I play Protoss: Stalkers, bacon, toilets and mama -- Chelsea FC
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
October 25 2015 09:45 GMT
#1130
On October 25 2015 17:16 Roadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2015 17:10 MiniFotToss wrote:
Man these Hearthstone and YuGioh cards are getting out of control, how do you guys have time to make these? I mean they are pretty impressive, but still...

We have generators for them. Just type in some text and upload an image into a template and poof!

Wow, that sounds very cool
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 25 2015 10:02 GMT
#1131
Everyone except Hydra and Lilbow can win this.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
October 25 2015 10:03 GMT
#1132
On October 18 2015 01:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 01:53 Die4Ever wrote:
On October 18 2015 01:50 Lorning wrote:
On October 18 2015 01:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Alright, so how many pages can we get this one to? It's gonna be hard to break 1000 from last year in only half the time, but let's see if we can't break 500

I think we can get 20 pages, if I may be optimistic

that would be crazy, the thread would probably get closed

that would be too much fun, Die Moderatoren der Team-flüssiges can't allow fun now can they?

Did you really do that pun for KBB only? :D
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
October 25 2015 10:06 GMT
#1133
On October 25 2015 19:02 boxerfred wrote:
Everyone except Hydra and Lilbow can win this.

Polt can't win either. And Byul, but he is cursed.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
October 25 2015 10:07 GMT
#1134
On October 25 2015 19:02 boxerfred wrote:
Everyone except Hydra and Lilbow can win this.


Add Polt and Fanta in to that list.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
October 25 2015 10:10 GMT
#1135
On October 25 2015 19:07 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2015 19:02 boxerfred wrote:
Everyone except Hydra and Lilbow can win this.


Add Polt and Fanta in to that list.

Fanta can win if magic exists. Dream is cursed too btw. Poor kongs
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
October 25 2015 10:12 GMT
#1136
On October 25 2015 19:10 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2015 19:07 Phredxor wrote:
On October 25 2015 19:02 boxerfred wrote:
Everyone except Hydra and Lilbow can win this.


Add Polt and Fanta in to that list.

Fanta can win if magic exists. Dream is cursed too btw. Poor kongs


Yeah his form is nowhere near where ot would need to be to go far in this, magic would be needed. True about the kongs, forgot about that. Though i don't think Dream could go far regardless.
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
October 25 2015 11:19 GMT
#1137
I know that Rain can go far, but also INnoVation Dream and Classic, these 4 are my semi-finalists, Rain vs INnoVation Finals, Rain wins 4-2 or loses 4-3
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 25 2015 14:37 GMT
#1138
Thx to everyone who made the decision to not allow this thread for blizzcon, saves me a lot of time i guess

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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
October 25 2015 15:06 GMT
#1139
On October 25 2015 23:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Thx to everyone who made the decision to not allow this thread for blizzcon, saves me a lot of time i guess

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good one
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3483 Posts
October 25 2015 15:07 GMT
#1140
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SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
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