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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 11:44:36
October 06 2015 11:43 GMT
#481
The fact that we can look at that game and identify a thousand million things that both Fantasy and HyuN did wrong proves how difficult it is to play this style from both sides. That's a very very good thing.
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CptMarvel
Profile Joined May 2014
France236 Posts
October 06 2015 11:43 GMT
#482
That was an utterly terrible game.
I don't understand how Fantasy's BW mech skills have so poorly translated to SC2. The positioning and decision making in the last 25mins of this were god awful.
And I have nothing against HyuN but he really is a below-average player right now.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 11:44:57
October 06 2015 11:43 GMT
#483
On October 06 2015 20:40 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 20:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:38 atrox_ wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:37 yip.man wrote:
Cancer mech so disgusting


I'd personally rather watch a game like that as opposed to say BL infestor or blink allins

Mech on Terraform and BL/Infestor feel very very similar to me.


BL/Infestor was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse. Just thank the lord everyday that this is over.

It worked on every map. Against every race guys. It was objectively worse, no discussion.


BL/Infestor is still the worst, worse than mechvz, blink allins, swarmhosts, skytoss, etc. More OP, was the goal in every game regardless of matchup.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16085 Posts
October 06 2015 11:43 GMT
#484
On October 06 2015 20:40 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 20:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:38 atrox_ wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:37 yip.man wrote:
Cancer mech so disgusting


I'd personally rather watch a game like that as opposed to say BL infestor or blink allins

Mech on Terraform and BL/Infestor feel very very similar to me.


BL/Infestor was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse. Just thank the lord everyday that this is over.

It worked on every map. Against every race guys. It was objectively worse, no discussion.

Also it was imbalanced
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x0x0
Profile Joined August 2015
149 Posts
October 06 2015 11:50 GMT
#485
On October 06 2015 20:43 CptMarvel wrote:
That was an utterly terrible game.
I don't understand how Fantasy's BW mech skills have so poorly translated to SC2. The positioning and decision making in the last 25mins of this were god awful.
And I have nothing against HyuN but he really is a below-average player right now.

Terrible?.....for me as a viewer was so damn good.Games like this can only occur when both players are making mistakes and neither of them are felling comfortable in their play.
Some of the best games ever in sc2 where the ones when BOTH the players are playin weird as fuck with apparently no logic.
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
October 06 2015 11:50 GMT
#486
On October 06 2015 20:43 Thrillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 20:40 robson1 wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:38 atrox_ wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:37 yip.man wrote:
Cancer mech so disgusting


I'd personally rather watch a game like that as opposed to say BL infestor or blink allins

Mech on Terraform and BL/Infestor feel very very similar to me.


BL/Infestor was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse. Just thank the lord everyday that this is over.

It worked on every map. Against every race guys. It was objectively worse, no discussion.


BL/Infestor is still the worst, worse than mechvz, blink allins, swarmhosts, skytoss, etc. More OP, was the goal in every game regardless of matchup.

Numbers would suggest otherwise, but whatever. Who cares about numbers.
GaliX
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany380 Posts
October 06 2015 11:55 GMT
#487
On October 06 2015 20:43 CptMarvel wrote:
That was an utterly terrible game.
I don't understand how Fantasy's BW mech skills have so poorly translated to SC2. The positioning and decision making in the last 25mins of this were god awful.
And I have nothing against HyuN but he really is a below-average player right now.



sounds like you are the real pro gamer here...
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
October 06 2015 11:59 GMT
#488
Very happy for FanTaSy!

BlizzCon will be good .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
October 06 2015 12:01 GMT
#489
On October 06 2015 20:39 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 20:38 atrox_ wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:37 yip.man wrote:
Cancer mech so disgusting


I'd personally rather watch a game like that as opposed to say BL infestor or blink allins


Or Swarm Hosts.

What's the difference aside from Terran doing it?
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CptMarvel
Profile Joined May 2014
France236 Posts
October 06 2015 12:02 GMT
#490
On October 06 2015 20:55 GaliX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 20:43 CptMarvel wrote:
That was an utterly terrible game.
I don't understand how Fantasy's BW mech skills have so poorly translated to SC2. The positioning and decision making in the last 25mins of this were god awful.
And I have nothing against HyuN but he really is a below-average player right now.



sounds like you are the real pro gamer here...


The classical "you gotta be able to do it to criticize it".

Deep.
duckk
Profile Joined March 2013
United States622 Posts
October 06 2015 12:04 GMT
#491
On October 06 2015 20:43 Thrillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 20:40 robson1 wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:38 atrox_ wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:37 yip.man wrote:
Cancer mech so disgusting


I'd personally rather watch a game like that as opposed to say BL infestor or blink allins

Mech on Terraform and BL/Infestor feel very very similar to me.


BL/Infestor was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse. Just thank the lord everyday that this is over.

It worked on every map. Against every race guys. It was objectively worse, no discussion.


BL/Infestor is still the worst, worse than mechvz, blink allins, swarmhosts, skytoss, etc. More OP, was the goal in every game regardless of matchup.


While obnoxious, bl infestor was only doable from 14:00+, protoss immortal sentry allins and terrans 11minute? pushes were very capable of winning vs better zerg players. Zerg does not really have any consistent or strong allins, and if the terran is able to turtle they should win everytime. Mech also works on every map, but for bridgehead, but that map is as zerg favored as steppes or jungle basin is terran favored...
GaliX
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany380 Posts
October 06 2015 12:04 GMT
#492
On October 06 2015 21:02 CptMarvel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 20:55 GaliX wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:43 CptMarvel wrote:
That was an utterly terrible game.
I don't understand how Fantasy's BW mech skills have so poorly translated to SC2. The positioning and decision making in the last 25mins of this were god awful.
And I have nothing against HyuN but he really is a below-average player right now.



sounds like you are the real pro gamer here...


The classical "you gotta be able to do it to criticize it".

Deep.



well they both played really good in my opinion... surely they made both several misstakes but that was due to pressure I guess.


calling Hyun below-average player is really just stupid...
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37099 Posts
October 06 2015 12:09 GMT
#493
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 06 2015 12:10 GMT
#494
On October 06 2015 21:04 GaliX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 21:02 CptMarvel wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:55 GaliX wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:43 CptMarvel wrote:
That was an utterly terrible game.
I don't understand how Fantasy's BW mech skills have so poorly translated to SC2. The positioning and decision making in the last 25mins of this were god awful.
And I have nothing against HyuN but he really is a below-average player right now.



sounds like you are the real pro gamer here...


The classical "you gotta be able to do it to criticize it".

Deep.



well they both played really good in my opinion... surely they made both several misstakes but that was due to pressure I guess.


calling Hyun below-average player is really just stupid...

Agreed. You can only really call them below average if you compare them to the top 15-20 players.
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 12:13:24
October 06 2015 12:12 GMT
#495
On October 06 2015 21:04 duckk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 20:43 Thrillz wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:40 robson1 wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:38 atrox_ wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:37 yip.man wrote:
Cancer mech so disgusting


I'd personally rather watch a game like that as opposed to say BL infestor or blink allins

Mech on Terraform and BL/Infestor feel very very similar to me.


BL/Infestor was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse. Just thank the lord everyday that this is over.

It worked on every map. Against every race guys. It was objectively worse, no discussion.


BL/Infestor is still the worst, worse than mechvz, blink allins, swarmhosts, skytoss, etc. More OP, was the goal in every game regardless of matchup.


While obnoxious, bl infestor was only doable from 14:00+, protoss immortal sentry allins and terrans 11minute? pushes were very capable of winning vs better zerg players. Zerg does not really have any consistent or strong allins, and if the terran is able to turtle they should win everytime. Mech also works on every map, but for bridgehead, but that map is as zerg favored as steppes or jungle basin is terran favored...
why does bl infestor always get brought up in these conversations? who cares? (not you duckk i mean the terrans who bring it up as a defense)

i didn't even play sc2 in wol and yet some terrans seem to think that somehow i deserve to play against mech because of an imba composition that doesn't exist anymore o_O

btw i dont think mech is imba right now but its horrible to watch and play against for sure
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WaylanderSC2_
Profile Joined September 2015
24 Posts
October 06 2015 12:13 GMT
#496
On October 06 2015 20:50 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 20:43 Thrillz wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:40 robson1 wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:38 atrox_ wrote:
On October 06 2015 20:37 yip.man wrote:
Cancer mech so disgusting


I'd personally rather watch a game like that as opposed to say BL infestor or blink allins

Mech on Terraform and BL/Infestor feel very very similar to me.


BL/Infestor was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse. Just thank the lord everyday that this is over.

It worked on every map. Against every race guys. It was objectively worse, no discussion.


BL/Infestor is still the worst, worse than mechvz, blink allins, swarmhosts, skytoss, etc. More OP, was the goal in every game regardless of matchup.

Numbers would suggest otherwise, but whatever. Who cares about numbers.



Are you trolling?

During the peak of BL Infestor, Zerg had the highest winning record for ELEVEN STRAIGHT MONTHS. A record that is still unmatched to this day. Remember foriegn players like Johnnyreccor, Goswser, and Vortix? Well, they were more than capable of beating Korean Terrans with broodlord/infestor. Zerg players ELO ratings SKYROCKETED in the months following the dawn of the brood lord infestor era (Queen range buff). It was the darkest time in SC2, there literally wasn't a counter to the playstyle and Zergs won the majority of premier tournaments for nearly a year.


What do numbers say about the imbalance of mech in TvZ? That Terran has a 43% winrate against Zerg in proleague? That overall, Terran had a losing record against Zerg in August and September: winrates of 47.8% and 48.17% respectively? That Terran has won less than half as many premier tournaments as Zerg has in 2015?


Please, enlighten me with your "numbers."
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 06 2015 12:16 GMT
#497
On October 06 2015 20:43 CptMarvel wrote:
That was an utterly terrible game.
I don't understand how Fantasy's BW mech skills have so poorly translated to SC2.

Because the HotS TvZ so-called “mech” has little do to with SC1 mech
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19371 Posts
October 06 2015 12:17 GMT
#498
Way to go Fantasy! Can't wait for Blizzcon now!
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 06 2015 12:22 GMT
#499
Augh I missed this doing physics homework =3=
Go fantasy.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 06 2015 12:22 GMT
#500
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