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Senseless bashing of foreigners and WCS game quality is not permitted today. Criticism is fine, but let's not repeat yesterday's mess. Games can be enjoyed without the presence of constant vitriol.
14:18 GMT (+00:00) Edit: This is your friendly reminder that whining about Protoss is an old and tired thing. Don't.
-Zealously
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18766 Posts
September 13 2015 14:02 GMT
#301
On September 13 2015 23:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 22:59 sharkie wrote:
Zanster was cutting it close with his hydra den though

I like players that are able to hold on units until the right moment and not only mindlessly spend their money, Zest does that all the time.


only possible with protoss, as terran/zerg you cannot afford to do this, building time will kill you
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 13 2015 14:02 GMT
#302
On September 13 2015 23:01 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 22:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 22:58 HellHound wrote:
On September 13 2015 22:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:
yeah ok this should be over if Zanster doesn't derp. Didn't think he'd take a game.

You know for a protoss player you really overestimate the power of blink all ins :D

I never play them but I always see them take easy wins so yeah I'm pretty bad at evaluating PvZs when blink is involved. In that case I think you can't play such a build with like zero sentries against what Zanster was doing.

Assuming no big error it goes like this.
Mass units off 50 drones. gg zerg imba
mass units off more than 50 drones gg toss imba

yeah I think that's indeed modern PvZ in a nutshell
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
September 13 2015 14:02 GMT
#303
LoL the picture @TakeTV's stream.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
September 13 2015 14:03 GMT
#304
couldn't he have killed the pylon?
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
September 13 2015 14:03 GMT
#305
On September 13 2015 23:02 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:00 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 22:59 sharkie wrote:
Zanster was cutting it close with his hydra den though

I like players that are able to hold on units until the right moment and not only mindlessly spend their money, Zest does that all the time.


only possible with protoss, as terran/zerg you cannot afford to do this, building time will kill you

Zerg can obviously do that rofl
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Aelendis
Profile Joined February 2011
Belgium892 Posts
September 13 2015 14:03 GMT
#306
What a mistake
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 13 2015 14:03 GMT
#307
ok that's a cool hold
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 13 2015 14:03 GMT
#308
On September 13 2015 23:01 Ej_ wrote:
(Z)Zanster 1:1 (P)Lilbow
game 3 on Coda

Zanster top left, Lilbow bottom right

ok Zanster is 7pooling, Lilbow 13gate on low ground, probe scouts

Lilbow makes forge in wall reactively
Lilbow walls of completely with another pylon
Zealot on the way
lings killing first pylon
zealot out
lings killing gate
Lilbow cannoning main
"This is so smart" - says ToD after seeing a reasonable reaction to early pool that's 15 years old
lings kill wall go into main
cannon finishes
Zanster has to back off, kills al buildings on lowground and redrones
Lilbow restarts gateway+gas in main
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 13 2015 14:03 GMT
#309
Didnt like that decision to fight in the mineral line
Neosteel Enthusiast
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 13 2015 14:03 GMT
#310
Great defense !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
September 13 2015 14:04 GMT
#311
i hope lilbows crush this scrub
RIP MKP
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-13 14:04:30
September 13 2015 14:04 GMT
#312
On September 13 2015 23:03 DBooN wrote:
couldn't he have killed the pylon?

Toss would just build another (tho it's probably a much better decision) not like they can spend their money on anything
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 13 2015 14:04 GMT
#313
sometimes I wish they would just show both povs in a dual screen
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
September 13 2015 14:05 GMT
#314
Lilbow coinflip style expand
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
September 13 2015 14:05 GMT
#315
he will 4 gate ahahahaahah
RIP MKP
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
September 13 2015 14:05 GMT
#316
Lilbow can make magic happen just by those zergs overdronning.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 13 2015 14:06 GMT
#317
On September 13 2015 23:03 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 23:01 Ej_ wrote:
(Z)Zanster 1:1 (P)Lilbow
game 3 on Coda

Zanster top left, Lilbow bottom right

ok Zanster is 7pooling, Lilbow 13gate on low ground, probe scouts

Lilbow makes forge in wall reactively
Lilbow walls of completely with another pylon
Zealot on the way
lings killing first pylon
zealot out
lings killing gate
Lilbow cannoning main
"This is so smart" - says ToD after seeing a reasonable reaction to early pool that's 15 years old
lings kill wall go into main
cannon finishes
Zanster has to back off, kills al buildings on lowground and redrones
Lilbow restarts gateway+gas in main

Zanster kills gas in main that is out of cannon range, Lilbow has 1 gate and 1 gas
Zanster has taken nat already, is getting gas
WG and 2nd gate on the way for Lilbow
3 zealots out, are chasing out 7 lings of zanster
Lilbow puts down his natural, Zanster takes 3rd

ling speed starts, as does a queen on natural
2 more gates to wall off and a sentry
Lilbow still 1 gas
4 gate maybe???
probe out on the map, passes by lings with zealots phasing out
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 13 2015 14:06 GMT
#318
did Zanster cancel his 3rd ?
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4067 Posts
September 13 2015 14:06 GMT
#319
love how Zanster plays here
<3 things - Life | Kane | Innovation | Scarlett | Solar | MMA
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18766 Posts
September 13 2015 14:06 GMT
#320
On September 13 2015 23:06 [PkF] Wire wrote:
did Zanster cancel his 3rd ?


indeed he did
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