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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 12 2015 19:35 GMT
#2621
On September 13 2015 04:24 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:23 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:20 sAsImre wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:19 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:13 MorDka wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?

seriously ?

Right its the best tournament ever !

First criterion of the quality of a tournament should be the quality of the games, and we're just not there.

Blizzcon was a thousand times more exciting, nearly every series was great.


THE PERFECT TOURNAMENT


production issues were really shitty while trying to watch it live from EU TT


I gave up on having a sleep schedule, my girlfriend went to work while I was still up watching Innovation vs Taeja (I think) and then I went to practice immediately after

what a great weekend it was


Tbh the only downside was the final. A lot of series would've made a better final TT

Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:21 sAsImre wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:21 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:20 sAsImre wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:19 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:13 MorDka wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?

seriously ?

Right its the best tournament ever !

First criterion of the quality of a tournament should be the quality of the games, and we're just not there.

Blizzcon was a thousand times more exciting, nearly every series was great.


THE PERFECT TOURNAMENT


production issues were really shitty while trying to watch it live from EU TT

I had no big issues, I remember watching every series with delight.


I went to sleep during TaeJa/Inno when there was a huge delay QQ

you slept during Blizzcon ? Can one be more passionless ?


had to work on sunday morning QQ

And tbh I value a good GSL/proleague playoff way more than blizzcon, I enjoy preparation way too much to be a fan of the gameplay displayed at blizzcon.

And inno lost.

The first two rounds of BlizzCon were preparation based with one month before the Ro16 and one week before the Ro8. So only 3 seties were "not prepared".
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24211 Posts
September 12 2015 19:37 GMT
#2622
Predictions for tomorrow ? As expected I think the semis will go 3-0 and then I guess Lilbow should win 4-1 or 4-0.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
September 12 2015 19:38 GMT
#2623
3-0 Lilbow
3-1 Forgg, he should derp at least once I think :D
4-2 Lilbow.
Zest fanboy.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 12 2015 19:38 GMT
#2624
On September 13 2015 04:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Predictions for tomorrow ? As expected I think the semis will go 3-0 and then I guess Lilbow should win 4-1 or 4-0.

No way it will be one sided. Their Ro16 match was very close (and arguably the best series of the Ro16).
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-12 19:45:20
September 12 2015 19:38 GMT
#2625
On September 13 2015 04:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
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On September 13 2015 04:25 Rollora wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:18 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:15 Rollora wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:01 Aocowns wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:00 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 13 2015 03:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 03:58 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 13 2015 03:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 03:57 Makro wrote:
[quote]
why are you so negative mate ?

Protoss bullshit getting the edge will always have me sad and bitter, sorry


The trick is to call it something else, like you do with other races, and then everything is peachy again

how to call it ?


You have at least two whole languages for that, the world is your limit my friend

If we were to really unleash our vocabulary of adjectives to describe protoss, the LR pages would be splattered with the red ban text of fallen Zerg freedom fighters

Its not only the Zergs.
I will never understand why blizzard decided to give a lesser players so many possibilities to win against a better player. I hate almost all the BS tactics, no matter the race. One Cheese per race is fine I guess, but there is so much to choose from as toss, and it even got worse with LOTV. It really keeps me from loving sc2 anymore.
It of course gets more frustrating the less skill you have. Since the allin does somehow often have an advantage, and not "defenders advantage", I lose on ladder quite often to players that never scout, have a third of my apm, in the replay it shows they are not understanding the game at all, just blindly playing their build... things like that shouldn't work. "Scout more" is the biggest BS tip ever heard, sometimes even pros don't scout hidden BS...


Oh hey, a post from Rollora, I wonder what it's about.

I tried so hard
Really! I tried so hard to see it as a part of the game, but I don't like it.
My next step is now: I stopped playing Random and focus on Protoss, see the hard things about it (of course there are hard things about it) and try to start liking it that way when I start to see the skill it takes to get high up in the ladder. I promise I try to be less negative then, since I then must be less frustrated.
First couple of games I won with allins and lost all my macro games :D

I tried to play exclusively bullshit on ladder to convince me it was not that easy. I did have to concede it took some art (selling stories, being tricky, etc) but I still have zero respect for those various playstyles.

yeah, its really not that hard. in WoL I played Terran (Diamond), and what I learned about micro/macro/multitask made me always angry when I checked the VOD and saw the opponent could defeat me with only doing his single trick.
But it is a boring style to play. That is why I am trying to learn Toss Macro.
I agree with you, I still have zero respect for that playsýle. To me (warning, personal opinion) a win counts more if achieved by constant trading via macro game and getting ahead with several/lots of better decisions, fights etc.
I also don't understand the excitement of some Warp Prism picking up an Immortal in time or Blink Micro when the tactics is a 2 base allin and ALL you have to do (in this case Mana in Game 4) is watch your army and blink. I kinda find it disrespectful almost if you consider how much the other person has to do perfectly to hold that off.
However, I really don't like ladder players just playing this one trick they got, winning and laughing basically in your face.
As I said, I don't want it all out, I just want it reduced, so you are not as much in the dark playing against some BS (no matter the race).

But its part of the game, part of the various strategies in it, so I get banned if i dislike it publicly, so I will stop now with my annying comments and try to play Toss macro style, see how far I can get

Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16081 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-12 19:43:19
September 12 2015 19:38 GMT
#2626
On September 13 2015 04:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:29 Yorkie wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:25 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:24 sAsImre wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:23 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:20 sAsImre wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:19 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:13 MorDka wrote:
[quote]
Right its the best tournament ever !

First criterion of the quality of a tournament should be the quality of the games, and we're just not there.

Blizzcon was a thousand times more exciting, nearly every series was great.


THE PERFECT TOURNAMENT


production issues were really shitty while trying to watch it live from EU TT


I gave up on having a sleep schedule, my girlfriend went to work while I was still up watching Innovation vs Taeja (I think) and then I went to practice immediately after

what a great weekend it was


Tbh the only downside was the final. A lot of series would've made a better final TT

I can agree on this, though both MMA and Life storylines were just perfect. I wish the finals was a bit closer though I was really hopeful after the Foxtrot game.


I loved MMA's storyline of getting the sickest spawns vs protoss, denying us a much better Classic vs Life final D:

I loved the storyline of two of the best 4 players at the event being knocked out in the ro16 and the top half of the bracket being much easier.


Blame Kespa like I do


I don't blame Kespa for that, I blame Blizzard for catering to weak foreign lan events.

I mean Hyun won 500 Blizzcon points for second place in http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Gfinity_G3

Bomber won 750 fucking points for http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Red_Bull_Battle_Grounds:_Atlanta

It was a joke system that awarded WAY too many points to people that just hopped around crushing foreigners. The G3 one especially pissed me off since 9 of the 12 players in it were fucking invited there.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
September 12 2015 19:39 GMT
#2627
3-1 Lilbow
3-0 Forgg
4-2 Lilbow
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
grogburg
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
United States329 Posts
September 12 2015 19:39 GMT
#2628
Now Zanster to somehow take it all.
<3 BaseTradeTV <3
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 12 2015 19:39 GMT
#2629
On September 13 2015 04:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Predictions for tomorrow ? As expected I think the semis will go 3-0 and then I guess Lilbow should win 4-1 or 4-0.

I still think ForGG has a decent shot against Lilbow. Yeah he lost 2-1 in the ro16 but still. The semis likely won't be close but Zanster does play very good late game ZvP for a European so if he survives the lame baguette phase of the game he has a chance. He probably won't though
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24211 Posts
September 12 2015 19:40 GMT
#2630
On September 13 2015 04:38 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Predictions for tomorrow ? As expected I think the semis will go 3-0 and then I guess Lilbow should win 4-1 or 4-0.

No way it will be one sided. Their Ro16 match was very close (and arguably the best series of the Ro16).

yeah it's true but forgg didn't convince me he could win more than 1 game.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
September 12 2015 19:41 GMT
#2631
On September 13 2015 04:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Predictions for tomorrow ?


Salt. Lots and lots of salt
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 12 2015 19:41 GMT
#2632
Incoming rematch of "Who's the Best European?" incoming?
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24211 Posts
September 12 2015 19:42 GMT
#2633
On September 13 2015 04:41 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Predictions for tomorrow ?


Salt. Lots and lots of salt

I'll try to hold mine, but yeah salt will be cried.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18455 Posts
September 12 2015 19:46 GMT
#2634
is there any way to watch the lilbow vs hydra series?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24211 Posts
September 12 2015 19:49 GMT
#2635
On September 13 2015 04:46 sharkie wrote:
is there any way to watch the lilbow vs hydra series?

don't expect anything too amazing, it's mostly Hydra messing up especially in the last game.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 12 2015 19:49 GMT
#2636
On September 13 2015 04:46 sharkie wrote:
is there any way to watch the lilbow vs hydra series?

ogaming tv is doing a rebroadcast right now but it's still gungfu vs zanster
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24211 Posts
September 12 2015 19:50 GMT
#2637
On September 13 2015 04:49 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:46 sharkie wrote:
is there any way to watch the lilbow vs hydra series?

ogaming tv is doing a rebroadcast right now but it's still gungfu vs zanster

I guess I'll watch the rebroadcast just to see how crazy ogaming went during the Coda game lol
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 12 2015 19:50 GMT
#2638
On September 13 2015 04:46 sharkie wrote:
is there any way to watch the lilbow vs hydra series?

You could just go to past broadcasts of the wcs twitch channel
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 12 2015 19:53 GMT
#2639
Good narrative, meh to ok games.

I'd rather it be the reverse.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
September 12 2015 20:14 GMT
#2640
On September 13 2015 04:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Predictions for tomorrow ? As expected I think the semis will go 3-0 and then I guess Lilbow should win 4-1 or 4-0.

Very very close semis, most likely 3-2 for Lilbow and either MaNa or ForGG. Then Lilbow probably loses to MaNa 4-3 but wins against ForGG 4-3 (JUSTICE FOR DAYSHI WILL BE SERVED).
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