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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 12 2015 19:16 GMT
#2561
Iron Squid had the best crowds. IEM Cologne had the best games. Lots of tournaments had better storylines including like half the GSL seasons. This production value and crowd is cool but overall it's a meh tournament for me. Worth watching for sure, but not amazing by any stretch
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
September 12 2015 19:17 GMT
#2562
On September 13 2015 04:11 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?


Not sure how you can say that. How many real, quality macro games have there been? Lots of one and two basing going on, feels like WoL.

maybe that is what he is refering too and what counts for him as a good game?
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
September 12 2015 19:18 GMT
#2563
Not sure about blizzcon chances, will Lilbow and ForGG be fighting for their place?
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
September 12 2015 19:18 GMT
#2564
On September 13 2015 04:16 Yorkie wrote:
Iron Squid had the best crowds. IEM Cologne had the best games. Lots of tournaments had better storylines including like half the GSL seasons. This production value and crowd is cool but overall it's a meh tournament for me. Worth watching for sure, but not amazing by any stretch


This tournament had great comebacks so far
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12070 Posts
September 12 2015 19:18 GMT
#2565
On September 13 2015 04:15 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:01 Aocowns wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:00 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 13 2015 03:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 03:58 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 13 2015 03:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 03:57 Makro wrote:
On September 13 2015 03:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
this tournament really sucks

why are you so negative mate ?

Protoss bullshit getting the edge will always have me sad and bitter, sorry


The trick is to call it something else, like you do with other races, and then everything is peachy again

how to call it ?


You have at least two whole languages for that, the world is your limit my friend

If we were to really unleash our vocabulary of adjectives to describe protoss, the LR pages would be splattered with the red ban text of fallen Zerg freedom fighters

Its not only the Zergs.
I will never understand why blizzard decided to give a lesser players so many possibilities to win against a better player. I hate almost all the BS tactics, no matter the race. One Cheese per race is fine I guess, but there is so much to choose from as toss, and it even got worse with LOTV. It really keeps me from loving sc2 anymore.
It of course gets more frustrating the less skill you have. Since the allin does somehow often have an advantage, and not "defenders advantage", I lose on ladder quite often to players that never scout, have a third of my apm, in the replay it shows they are not understanding the game at all, just blindly playing their build... things like that shouldn't work. "Scout more" is the biggest BS tip ever heard, sometimes even pros don't scout hidden BS...


Oh hey, a post from Rollora, I wonder what it's about.
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
September 12 2015 19:18 GMT
#2566
On September 13 2015 04:16 Yorkie wrote:
Iron Squid had the best crowds. IEM Cologne had the best games. Lots of tournaments had better storylines including like half the GSL seasons. This production value and crowd is cool but overall it's a meh tournament for me. Worth watching for sure, but not amazing by any stretch

But foreigners?
why even
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
September 12 2015 19:18 GMT
#2567
On September 13 2015 04:18 VengefulTree wrote:
Not sure about blizzcon chances, will Lilbow and ForGG be fighting for their place?

basically this
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17649 Posts
September 12 2015 19:18 GMT
#2568
On September 13 2015 04:18 VengefulTree wrote:
Not sure about blizzcon chances, will Lilbow and ForGG be fighting for their place?


On September 13 2015 04:15 Die4Ever wrote:
We are now down to just 25 players above 0% Blizzcon Chances! Between 100% and 0% we have sOs, Fantasy, Lilbow, ForGG, Gumiho, Hyun, Dark, Dear, Mana, TY, Stats, and Zanster!

Here are the changes from just today
Biggest Winners
fr Lilbow went up by 23.35%, going from 21.63% to 44.99%
kr ForGG went up by 16.93%, going from 17.6% to 34.53%
pl MaNa went up by 0.98%, going from 0.66% to 1.64%

Biggest Losers
kr Dark went down by 20.64%, going from 31.59% to 10.95%
kr FanTaSy went down by 10.08%, going from 88.32% to 78.24%
kr GuMiho went down by 4.09%, going from 16.84% to 12.75%
kr sOs went down by 2.91%, going from 97.33% to 94.42%
kr HyuN went down by 2.83%, going from 15.38% to 12.54%
kr TY went down by 0.25%, going from 1.13% to 0.88%
kr Dear went down by 0.18%, going from 8.81% to 8.63%
+ Show Spoiler [More Losers] +

kr Stats went down by 0.16%, going from 0.57% to 0.41%
nz Petraeus went down by 0.11%, going from 0.11% to 0%
de GunGFuBanDa went down by 0.02%, going from 0.02% to 0%
kr Rogue went down by 0.01%, going from 99.99% to 99.98%


from here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24848184
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 12 2015 19:19 GMT
#2569
On September 13 2015 04:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:13 MorDka wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?

seriously ?

Right its the best tournament ever !

First criterion of the quality of a tournament should be the quality of the games, and we're just not there.

Blizzcon was a thousand times more exciting, nearly every series was great.


THE PERFECT TOURNAMENT
AdministratorBreak the chains
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
September 12 2015 19:19 GMT
#2570
On September 13 2015 04:13 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?


The tournament has certainly come together in the best way possible, but in terms of game quality I would rate multiple tournaments above it, narratively also at least a few


I'm not talking about game quality, but overall. And I meant best WCS xp


It's pretty hilarious then that you are qualifying a tournament as the best in 3 years while also completely ignoring game quality. That's like calling a car the best made in 3 years even though it drives like shit, or a concert the best ever even though the music sucked.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
September 12 2015 19:19 GMT
#2571
On September 13 2015 04:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:13 MorDka wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?

seriously ?

Right its the best tournament ever !

First criterion of the quality of a tournament should be the quality of the games, and we're just not there.

Blizzcon was a thousand times more exciting, nearly every series was great.

B-b-b-b-bbb--but our foreign stars are regularily winning series!

To balance out the negativity with positivity I just want to say it's awesome that Mana at least got to win in front of a homecrowd, I'm sure the feeling he got walking into that crowd after he won is going to stay with him a lot lot longer than the shame he surely has to feel about playing protoss like that

+ Show Spoiler +
I merely jest, obviously
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
September 12 2015 19:20 GMT
#2572
On September 13 2015 04:19 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:13 MorDka wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?

seriously ?

Right its the best tournament ever !

First criterion of the quality of a tournament should be the quality of the games, and we're just not there.

Blizzcon was a thousand times more exciting, nearly every series was great.


THE PERFECT TOURNAMENT

so we can agree on something
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12070 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-12 19:21:07
September 12 2015 19:20 GMT
#2573
On September 13 2015 04:19 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:13 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?


The tournament has certainly come together in the best way possible, but in terms of game quality I would rate multiple tournaments above it, narratively also at least a few


I'm not talking about game quality, but overall. And I meant best WCS xp


It's pretty hilarious then that you are qualifying a tournament as the best in 3 years while also completely ignoring game quality. That's like calling a car the best made in 3 years even though it drives like shit, or a concert the best ever even though the music sucked.


I've done that very many times

(That girl with the green hair was so fkin awesome)
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
September 12 2015 19:20 GMT
#2574
On September 13 2015 04:19 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:13 MorDka wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?

seriously ?

Right its the best tournament ever !

First criterion of the quality of a tournament should be the quality of the games, and we're just not there.

Blizzcon was a thousand times more exciting, nearly every series was great.


THE PERFECT TOURNAMENT


production issues were really shitty while trying to watch it live from EU TT
Zest fanboy.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 12 2015 19:20 GMT
#2575
I forget the exact Waxangel quote but essentially it was that tournament organizers have control over 60% of how good the tournament is the rest is up to how good the finals are. This tournament has the 60% but for me it's about more than the finals. The games in general haven't been good. If the finals are objectively good then I'll be very happy but if they're bad games and a white guy wins and everyone overhypes it I'm gonna be sad
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
September 12 2015 19:21 GMT
#2576
On September 13 2015 04:20 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:19 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:13 MorDka wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?

seriously ?

Right its the best tournament ever !

First criterion of the quality of a tournament should be the quality of the games, and we're just not there.

Blizzcon was a thousand times more exciting, nearly every series was great.


THE PERFECT TOURNAMENT


production issues were really shitty while trying to watch it live from EU TT

I had no big issues, I remember watching every series with delight.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
September 12 2015 19:21 GMT
#2577
On September 13 2015 04:21 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:20 sAsImre wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:19 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:13 MorDka wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?

seriously ?

Right its the best tournament ever !

First criterion of the quality of a tournament should be the quality of the games, and we're just not there.

Blizzcon was a thousand times more exciting, nearly every series was great.


THE PERFECT TOURNAMENT


production issues were really shitty while trying to watch it live from EU TT

I had no big issues, I remember watching every series with delight.


I went to sleep during TaeJa/Inno when there was a huge delay QQ
Zest fanboy.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 12 2015 19:22 GMT
#2578
On September 13 2015 04:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:19 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:14 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:13 MorDka wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?

seriously ?

Right its the best tournament ever !

First criterion of the quality of a tournament should be the quality of the games, and we're just not there.

Blizzcon was a thousand times more exciting, nearly every series was great.


THE PERFECT TOURNAMENT

so we can agree on something


I'm sure we can agree on a lot of things! I think most TL users have stuff in common since we're all cool people here
AdministratorBreak the chains
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28464 Posts
September 12 2015 19:22 GMT
#2579
On September 13 2015 04:20 Yorkie wrote:
I forget the exact Waxangel quote but essentially it was that tournament organizers have control over 60% of how good the tournament is the rest is up to how good the finals are. This tournament has the 60% but for me it's about more than the finals. The games in general haven't been good. If the finals are objectively good then I'll be very happy but if they're bad games and a white guy wins and everyone overhypes it I'm gonna be sad

Just say foreigner, not "white guy" pls
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 12 2015 19:22 GMT
#2580
On September 13 2015 04:18 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:16 Yorkie wrote:
Iron Squid had the best crowds. IEM Cologne had the best games. Lots of tournaments had better storylines including like half the GSL seasons. This production value and crowd is cool but overall it's a meh tournament for me. Worth watching for sure, but not amazing by any stretch

But foreigners?

I'm one of those weird people who doesn't think games are better because a white person wins them. I get excited for upsets of course, but if the games are bad the games are bad simple as that
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
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