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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 12 2015 19:11 GMT
#2541
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?


The tournament has certainly come together in the best way possible, but in terms of game quality I would rate multiple tournaments above it, narratively also at least a few
AdministratorBreak the chains
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
September 12 2015 19:11 GMT
#2542
On September 13 2015 04:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:09 sAsImre wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:07 sAsImre wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:06 Penev wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:04 Thax wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:03 sAsImre wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:01 Thax wrote:
On September 13 2015 03:58 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 13 2015 03:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:
[quote]
Protoss bullshit getting the edge will always have me sad and bitter, sorry


The trick is to call it something else, like you do with other races, and then everything is peachy again


Yea. Noone is being bitter over forGG 1 base all-inning 3 times in a row to cheese out the better macro player, but when Protoss does it it's suddenly time to burn down the thread.


"the better macro player". In tvt if you can't defend until at least the 10min mark you're a bad player, period. 1 base play is totally legit.


Thanks for demonstrating my point. Different measures for the same thing.

I don't think Polt is the better macro player


in TvP for sure

how can you be so sure ? When is the last time we saw Polt play a high level TvP ? He claims to be awesome in the mu, but I don't remember the last time he backed that claim.


The way he toyed with Harstem was hilarious. Current TvP is basically heaven for Polt, MMM(M) all day and multi pronged attacks/basetrades.

ah yeah it's true he looked quite good vs Harstem. Sad we won't get to see him vs MaNa and Lilbow.


Would've destroyed both imo, he opens with 3rax so he doesn't die to blink and lilbow isn't exactly great at multitasking. No need to talk about Mana i think :p
Zest fanboy.
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
September 12 2015 19:11 GMT
#2543
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?


Not sure how you can say that. How many real, quality macro games have there been? Lots of one and two basing going on, feels like WoL.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-12 19:11:59
September 12 2015 19:11 GMT
#2544
On September 13 2015 04:11 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?


The tournament has certainly come together in the best way possible, but in terms of game quality I would rate multiple tournaments above it, narratively also at least a few


IEM cologne with Polt's run was excellent for both metrics.
Zest fanboy.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
September 12 2015 19:11 GMT
#2545
On September 13 2015 04:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:03 WrathSCII wrote:
So now that it is over now, can we discuss Blizzcon?

there is not much to discuss ? We already knew what ForGG/Lilbow needed to do, and they're both on their ways.


I mean the discussion about the fact that those are going to Blizzcon while others like soO won't.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
September 12 2015 19:12 GMT
#2546
On September 13 2015 04:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
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On September 13 2015 03:58 ReachTheSky wrote:
I just have to say I am extremely impressed to see so many foreigners in the ro8. MANA!!!!!!!!!!


I'm not. Have you seen the bracket for this tournament? The Koreans have all been killing each other, the only real foreign victory in the entire tournament has been Lilbow vs Hydra. Polt and ForGG matching up in the Ro16 had HUGE implications since they were two of the favorites to win the whole thing.


Maybe you haven't watched very closely, but Lilbow beat ForGG and got the first place in the group before ForGG and Jeadong (whom he also beat), hence ForGG went up vs Polt. Of course, Lilbow was a bit unlucky drawing hydra who also failed to win his group.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 12 2015 19:12 GMT
#2547
ForGG has been 1 basing since the moment he came over from Brood War and promised he'd win his first season of GSL. I'm pretty sure he did 1/1/1 in every matchup for his first year in sc2 and 100% in TvT and TvZ
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
September 12 2015 19:12 GMT
#2548
On September 13 2015 04:11 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:03 WrathSCII wrote:
So now that it is over now, can we discuss Blizzcon?

there is not much to discuss ? We already knew what ForGG/Lilbow needed to do, and they're both on their ways.


I mean the discussion about the fact that those are going to Blizzcon while others like soO won't.


soO's problem with code B was inevitably going to bite him in the end. His GSL/SSL performance this year is awful sadly.
Zest fanboy.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-12 19:13:17
September 12 2015 19:13 GMT
#2549
On September 13 2015 04:11 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?


The tournament has certainly come together in the best way possible, but in terms of game quality I would rate multiple tournaments above it, narratively also at least a few


IEM cologne with Polt's run was excellent for both metrics.


IEM Cologne was the best tournament I've ever watched. I watch for good games in the end, and IEM Cologne had enough for a whole year

Also HerO obviously
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
MorDka
Profile Joined October 2012
Poland543 Posts
September 12 2015 19:13 GMT
#2550
On September 13 2015 04:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?

seriously ?

Right its the best tournament ever !
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17651 Posts
September 12 2015 19:13 GMT
#2551
On September 13 2015 04:11 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:03 WrathSCII wrote:
So now that it is over now, can we discuss Blizzcon?

there is not much to discuss ? We already knew what ForGG/Lilbow needed to do, and they're both on their ways.


I mean the discussion about the fact that those are going to Blizzcon while others like soO won't.

well the WCS Predictor thread is kinda the thread for that http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/471444-wcs-predictor-2015
"Expert" mods4ever.com
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
September 12 2015 19:13 GMT
#2552
On September 13 2015 04:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:11 sAsImre wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:11 Zealously wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?


The tournament has certainly come together in the best way possible, but in terms of game quality I would rate multiple tournaments above it, narratively also at least a few


IEM cologne with Polt's run was excellent for both metrics.


IEM Cologne was the best tournament I've ever watched. I watch for good games in the end, and IEM Cologne had enough for a whole year

Also HerO obviously


HerO vs inno was sad tho.
Zest fanboy.
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
September 12 2015 19:13 GMT
#2553
On September 13 2015 04:11 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?


The tournament has certainly come together in the best way possible, but in terms of game quality I would rate multiple tournaments above it, narratively also at least a few


I'm not talking about game quality, but overall. And I meant best WCS xp
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28464 Posts
September 12 2015 19:13 GMT
#2554
On September 13 2015 04:11 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:03 WrathSCII wrote:
So now that it is over now, can we discuss Blizzcon?

there is not much to discuss ? We already knew what ForGG/Lilbow needed to do, and they're both on their ways.


I mean the discussion about the fact that those are going to Blizzcon while others like soO won't.

Than soO should attend foreign tourneys more

I Protoss winner, could it be?
SC2Towelie
Profile Joined July 2014
United States561 Posts
September 12 2015 19:14 GMT
#2555
Wow that was such an awesome comeback, so happy for Mana!
Don't forget to bring a towel! (Towelie.635)
Wyrdness
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom29 Posts
September 12 2015 19:14 GMT
#2556
When ever people say TvP is Polt's best match up I wonder if that's against Korean Protoss or foreign as the likes of Zest, Hero (CJ Entus), Dear etc... are leagues above our mob.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
September 12 2015 19:14 GMT
#2557
On September 13 2015 04:13 MorDka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:08 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Best tournament in the past three years?

seriously ?

Right its the best tournament ever !

First criterion of the quality of a tournament should be the quality of the games, and we're just not there.

Blizzcon was a thousand times more exciting, nearly every series was great.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
September 12 2015 19:14 GMT
#2558
On September 13 2015 04:14 Wyrdness wrote:
When ever people say TvP is Polt's best match up I wonder if that's against Korean Protoss or foreign as the likes of Zest, Hero (CJ Entus), Dear etc... are leagues above our mob.


Polt level is quite bad compared to the top korean resident, I think it's evident for everyone.
Zest fanboy.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
September 12 2015 19:15 GMT
#2559
On September 13 2015 04:13 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:11 WrathSCII wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 04:03 WrathSCII wrote:
So now that it is over now, can we discuss Blizzcon?

there is not much to discuss ? We already knew what ForGG/Lilbow needed to do, and they're both on their ways.


I mean the discussion about the fact that those are going to Blizzcon while others like soO won't.

well the WCS Predictor thread is kinda the thread for that http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/471444-wcs-predictor-2015


Thanks for pointing that out!

*Moving there*
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
September 12 2015 19:15 GMT
#2560
On September 13 2015 04:01 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2015 04:00 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 13 2015 03:58 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 03:58 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 13 2015 03:57 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 13 2015 03:57 Makro wrote:
On September 13 2015 03:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
this tournament really sucks

why are you so negative mate ?

Protoss bullshit getting the edge will always have me sad and bitter, sorry


The trick is to call it something else, like you do with other races, and then everything is peachy again

how to call it ?


You have at least two whole languages for that, the world is your limit my friend

If we were to really unleash our vocabulary of adjectives to describe protoss, the LR pages would be splattered with the red ban text of fallen Zerg freedom fighters

Its not only the Zergs.
I will never understand why blizzard decided to give a lesser players so many possibilities to win against a better player. I hate almost all the BS tactics, no matter the race. One Cheese per race is fine I guess, but there is so much to choose from as toss, and it even got worse with LOTV. It really keeps me from loving sc2 anymore.
It of course gets more frustrating the less skill you have. Since the allin does somehow often have an advantage, and not "defenders advantage", I lose on ladder quite often to players that never scout, have a third of my apm, in the replay it shows they are not understanding the game at all, just blindly playing their build... things like that shouldn't work. "Scout more" is the biggest BS tip ever heard, sometimes even pros don't scout hidden BS...
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