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swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
August 07 2015 17:08 GMT
#761
Top 5 Terran are:

1. Maru
2. Innovation
3. Fantasy
4. Dream
5. Flash
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
August 07 2015 17:26 GMT
#762
On August 08 2015 02:08 swag_bro wrote:
Top 5 Terran are:

1. Maru
2. Innovation
3. Fantasy
4. Dream
5. Flash


I'd wait until Fantasy does more in Korea before rating him so highly, but other than that I agree with swag_bro for once. Also wtf is up with the starleagues? Maru/Dream/Life out of SSL Life/Dream out of GSL, this is madness
swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
August 07 2015 17:45 GMT
#763
On August 08 2015 02:26 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 02:08 swag_bro wrote:
Top 5 Terran are:

1. Maru
2. Innovation
3. Fantasy
4. Dream
5. Flash


I'd wait until Fantasy does more in Korea before rating him so highly, but other than that I agree with swag_bro for once. Also wtf is up with the starleagues? Maru/Dream/Life out of SSL Life/Dream out of GSL, this is madness


I will give you that, about Fantasy... but its definitely not this Bbyong kid.

And those players are out of those tournaments because they are in slumps. When players are in slumps, they lose to vastly inferior opponents like Bbyong because they make mistakes. Probably tired or something to add.

And I think the college entrance exams are coming up in Korea, so that explains Life's losses recently. He is studying.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 17:50:23
August 07 2015 17:46 GMT
#764
On August 08 2015 01:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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On August 08 2015 01:00 royalroadweed wrote:
On August 08 2015 00:48 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 08 2015 00:46 royalroadweed wrote:
On August 08 2015 00:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 08 2015 00:37 royalroadweed wrote:
On August 08 2015 00:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 08 2015 00:12 HellHound wrote:
On August 08 2015 00:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 08 2015 00:07 swag_bro wrote:
Yeah the only reason Life lost to someone like Bbyong is because he is in a slump.

Does anyone honestly believe that Bbyong is a top 5 Terran?

It's pretty hard to name a top 5 terran list atm.
There is Innovation and then?

This is more true

I think Maru is still pretty good and should be considered top 2

I agree. There's bogus and Maru. Dream has fallen off pretty hard recently.

Yep, Dream would have been another terran easily top 5 material, but not sure anymore.
But who is there atm? Really hard to say tbh :D

Same for Zerg though

I think zerg is easier. There's soO, rogue, byul, dark and life.

Hah! Now that you say it i have to agree tbh, but I would put Curious in the top 5 and remove Life

I'd still put Life above curious. I'm not convinced that curious current form is something that will last. I also think the only reason life got knocked out was because he faced bbyong in the first match. I think he beats every other person in this group. It was an odd situation where Life couldn't beat bbyong and bbyong couldn't beat sos, so life had the misfortune of playing bbyong twice. If it was sos vs life and bbyong vs stork in the first match, I think life would come out in second by beating sos twice.

As i said in the Week 4 lineups thread i think Life has around 50% winrate (a little less actually) in the "form" column of aligulac (i am not sure what timeframe that covers though, aligulac is down for me atm too -.-)
I don't think this is good enough to be considered a top 5 zerg tbh, i also don't think Life would have beaten sOs, at least not necessarily. Stork simply isn't that good.
Curious' gameplay looks pretty good atm on the other hand, so i absolutely think you have to put him in the top 5 :D

Life did beat sOs in SSL recently. Point is looking at Aligulac Bbyong is essentially a hard counter to Life for some reason, not to mention the strength of mech vs zerg right now and how Bbyong is already a terran predisposed to go mech. I'd give specific stats but atm aligulac is broken
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 17:51:33
August 07 2015 17:51 GMT
#765
On August 08 2015 01:16 Shellshock wrote:
Knew it was a mistake to lb life. I thought it would be Bbyong 1st and then Life vs sOs for 2nd

You of all people should have known what Life is made of
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
August 07 2015 18:15 GMT
#766
Bbyong (:
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Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
August 07 2015 18:28 GMT
#767
Bbyong bopping Life again. Not surprising...
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
August 07 2015 19:50 GMT
#768
Seems like Bbyong (or mech in general) is still a huge problem for Life. I caught some glimpses of the games, I don't get why he was so adamant making hydras was the right choice vs BCs.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 07 2015 20:20 GMT
#769
On August 08 2015 04:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Seems like Bbyong (or mech in general) is still a huge problem for Life. I caught some glimpses of the games, I don't get why he was so adamant making hydras was the right choice vs BCs.

to be fair the only unit that's decent against BCs is horrible against everything else in the entire game
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Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 06:12:02
August 08 2015 06:11 GMT
#770
Okay saw the VODs...Life definitely looks lost vs Bbyong and Mech. He had opportunities to win =o
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 06:15:01
August 08 2015 06:14 GMT
#771
On August 08 2015 04:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Seems like Bbyong (or mech in general) is still a huge problem for Life. I caught some glimpses of the games, I don't get why he was so adamant making hydras was the right choice vs BCs.


Mech is a problem for every zerg on the planet. And as mentioned earlier hydras are the best bet because the only other good option is corruptors, which you REALLY don't want if you can help it
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
August 08 2015 06:19 GMT
#772
On August 08 2015 15:14 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 04:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Seems like Bbyong (or mech in general) is still a huge problem for Life. I caught some glimpses of the games, I don't get why he was so adamant making hydras was the right choice vs BCs.


Mech is a problem for every zerg on the planet. And as mentioned earlier hydras are the best bet because the only other good option is corruptors, which you REALLY don't want if you can help it

Hydras do less damage than corruptors vs armored targets get hit by tanks don't have 5 armor 200 hp and cost the same supply.
3/3 corruptors/queen has always been the best zerg anti air.
Dunno why Life is using hydras.
Mech is a problem sure but Life has a lot more trouble with it than most.
soO/Dark seem very comfortable playing against it.
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
August 08 2015 06:37 GMT
#773
On August 08 2015 15:19 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 15:14 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On August 08 2015 04:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Seems like Bbyong (or mech in general) is still a huge problem for Life. I caught some glimpses of the games, I don't get why he was so adamant making hydras was the right choice vs BCs.


Mech is a problem for every zerg on the planet. And as mentioned earlier hydras are the best bet because the only other good option is corruptors, which you REALLY don't want if you can help it

Hydras do less damage than corruptors vs armored targets get hit by tanks don't have 5 armor 200 hp and cost the same supply.
3/3 corruptors/queen has always been the best zerg anti air.
Dunno why Life is using hydras.
Mech is a problem sure but Life has a lot more trouble with it than most.
soO/Dark seem very comfortable playing against it.


Again, I KNOW corruptors are better against BCs than hydras. But hydras are better than corruptors at virtually everything else, making the decision to make corruptors not something that you want to do. And yes hydras get hit by sieged tanks, but they also HIT said sieged tanks.
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