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On August 07 2015 23:05 Ketch wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 23:01 HellHound wrote:On August 07 2015 22:59 Ketch wrote:On August 07 2015 22:58 HellHound wrote:On August 07 2015 22:58 Inflicted wrote:
Hmm, I think Zergs should add SHs if Terrans dont replace their Siege tanks
A few hellbats and sensor towers make them irrelevant. Aren't SH especially good vs tanks with the flying locusts? Or use SH without flying locusts then? The second part of the sentance made my head hurt a bit. Locusts auto clump when they land so they insta die to splash with sensor towers you know where they will land. Yeah but the locusts landing on a target will ensure that siege tanks help to kill the landing targets of the locusts. So my point was that SH are more effective when siege tanks are around vs when they are not But yeah, they get shot out of the air anyway :/
And all that while ignoring their cost or supply 
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On August 07 2015 22:39 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 22:39 Swisslink wrote:
srsly, how can someone like Mech games? :-/ Hopefully nobody actually does, they just pretend to.
Hopefully people also pretend to like to watch bio and ling bane all the time.
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On August 07 2015 23:06 swissman777 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 22:39 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 07 2015 22:39 Swisslink wrote:
srsly, how can someone like Mech games? :-/ Hopefully nobody actually does, they just pretend to. Hopefully people also pretend to like to watch bio and ling bane all the time.
It's so boring just make units move command and box spit over and over yawn.
some drops from time to time tozzzzzzzzzzzz
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No Stork but at least Life died
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On August 07 2015 23:06 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 23:05 Ketch wrote:On August 07 2015 23:01 HellHound wrote:On August 07 2015 22:59 Ketch wrote:On August 07 2015 22:58 HellHound wrote:On August 07 2015 22:58 Inflicted wrote:
Hmm, I think Zergs should add SHs if Terrans dont replace their Siege tanks
A few hellbats and sensor towers make them irrelevant. Aren't SH especially good vs tanks with the flying locusts? Or use SH without flying locusts then? The second part of the sentance made my head hurt a bit. Locusts auto clump when they land so they insta die to splash with sensor towers you know where they will land. Yeah but the locusts landing on a target will ensure that siege tanks help to kill the landing targets of the locusts. So my point was that SH are more effective when siege tanks are around vs when they are not But yeah, they get shot out of the air anyway :/ And all that while ignoring their cost or supply
Oh I thought you were the one who made the first comment ^^.
Anyway yes they are horrible horrible horrible
(but maybe a little less horrible when siege tanks are around)
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On August 07 2015 23:04 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 23:00 Caihead wrote:On August 07 2015 22:56 HellHound wrote:On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote:
I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually. They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt? No, it just makes you absolutely obnoxious and remind me why I hate LR threads some times. I don't know that many zergs strong vs mech tbh. It's not like it's some magic skt power Impact was always strong vs mech even before joining skt Soulkey would be good vs it if he wasn't on break at the moment. I know rogue plays like shit vs it too. Is Buyl any good vs it?
What happened to Soulkey? He used to be my fave Zerg. That sick comeback against Inno.
Is he on a break because of that *ahem* incident with the suspicious betting lines? Sigh, I hope not.
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On the bright side: A Terran made it through
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On August 07 2015 23:08 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 23:04 HellHound wrote:On August 07 2015 23:00 Caihead wrote:On August 07 2015 22:56 HellHound wrote:On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote:
I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually. They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt? No, it just makes you absolutely obnoxious and remind me why I hate LR threads some times. I don't know that many zergs strong vs mech tbh. It's not like it's some magic skt power Impact was always strong vs mech even before joining skt Soulkey would be good vs it if he wasn't on break at the moment. I know rogue plays like shit vs it too. Is Buyl any good vs it? What happened to Soulkey? He used to be my fave Zerg. That sick comeback against Inno. Is he on a break because of that *ahem* incident with the suspicious betting lines? Sigh, I hope not.
very possible, he also doesn't like SC2
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On August 07 2015 23:09 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 23:08 RKC wrote:On August 07 2015 23:04 HellHound wrote:On August 07 2015 23:00 Caihead wrote:On August 07 2015 22:56 HellHound wrote:On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote:
I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually. They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt? No, it just makes you absolutely obnoxious and remind me why I hate LR threads some times. I don't know that many zergs strong vs mech tbh. It's not like it's some magic skt power Impact was always strong vs mech even before joining skt Soulkey would be good vs it if he wasn't on break at the moment. I know rogue plays like shit vs it too. Is Buyl any good vs it? What happened to Soulkey? He used to be my fave Zerg. That sick comeback against Inno. Is he on a break because of that *ahem* incident with the suspicious betting lines? Sigh, I hope not. very possible, he also doesn't like SC2
Where exactly is that coming from?
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On August 07 2015 23:09 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 23:08 RKC wrote:On August 07 2015 23:04 HellHound wrote:On August 07 2015 23:00 Caihead wrote:On August 07 2015 22:56 HellHound wrote:On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote:
I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually. They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt? No, it just makes you absolutely obnoxious and remind me why I hate LR threads some times. I don't know that many zergs strong vs mech tbh. It's not like it's some magic skt power Impact was always strong vs mech even before joining skt Soulkey would be good vs it if he wasn't on break at the moment. I know rogue plays like shit vs it too. Is Buyl any good vs it? What happened to Soulkey? He used to be my fave Zerg. That sick comeback against Inno. Is he on a break because of that *ahem* incident with the suspicious betting lines? Sigh, I hope not. very possible, he also doesn't like SC2
Such a shame. Now that he's let loose from KeSPA teams, he might as well return to BW, stream Afreeca and provide some real competition to Bisu 
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On August 07 2015 23:04 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 23:00 Caihead wrote:On August 07 2015 22:56 HellHound wrote:On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote:
I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually. They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt? No, it just makes you absolutely obnoxious and remind me why I hate LR threads some times. I don't know that many zergs strong vs mech tbh. It's not like it's some magic skt power Impact was always strong vs mech even before joining skt Soulkey would be good vs it if he wasn't on break at the moment. I know rogue plays like shit vs it too. Is Buyl any good vs it?
There was a time when Flash looked unstoppable with thor hellbat bio vs Z for about 2 months before it got figured out, now that composition is laughed at. Life didn't figure out how to counter mass banshee mech comps in under 4 hours. Bbyong made alot of composition switches and managed to dictate the tempo of the game in the two series today, doesn't mean mech is unstoppable. I'm sure some coaches are looking at the replays and vods and realizing all the timings Life could have hit. Bbyong's mech was also almost entirely different from Innovation's mech, minimal turrets, mass thor, mass banshees vs no banshees, less tanks. Just because they made roughly the same units doesn't mean it's just one generic blob build. I would even go as far as to say Life's composition may have worked better vs Innovation's composition but got hit by something different.
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The biggest mistake Life ever made was joining KT Rolster
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On August 07 2015 23:08 Penev wrote:
On the bright side: A Terran made it through
On the not-so-bright side, he'll likely knock out Flash next round (Bbyong can be a real passion-killer)
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On August 07 2015 23:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 23:09 Ej_ wrote:On August 07 2015 23:08 RKC wrote:On August 07 2015 23:04 HellHound wrote:On August 07 2015 23:00 Caihead wrote:On August 07 2015 22:56 HellHound wrote:On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote:
I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually. They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt? No, it just makes you absolutely obnoxious and remind me why I hate LR threads some times. I don't know that many zergs strong vs mech tbh. It's not like it's some magic skt power Impact was always strong vs mech even before joining skt Soulkey would be good vs it if he wasn't on break at the moment. I know rogue plays like shit vs it too. Is Buyl any good vs it? What happened to Soulkey? He used to be my fave Zerg. That sick comeback against Inno. Is he on a break because of that *ahem* incident with the suspicious betting lines? Sigh, I hope not. very possible, he also doesn't like SC2 Where exactly is that coming from?
iirc he popped on some BJ's Afreeca stream practicing BW during his last break, but, not happily, decided not to switch back since he didn't play BW well enough
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On August 07 2015 23:14 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 23:08 Penev wrote:
On the bright side: A Terran made it through On the not-so-bright side, he'll likely knock out Flash next round (Bbyong can be a real passion-killer)
He is but he apologizes for it. Hard to be mad at him :|
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On August 07 2015 23:12 showstealer1829 wrote:
The biggest mistake Life ever made was joining KT Rolster
life gets paid even if he loses. Plus his team house is a lot comfier.
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On August 07 2015 23:18 Deathstar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 23:12 showstealer1829 wrote:
The biggest mistake Life ever made was joining KT Rolster life gets paid even if he loses. Plus his team house is a lot comfier.
But he stopped smiling
:/
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On August 07 2015 23:17 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 23:14 RKC wrote:On August 07 2015 23:08 Penev wrote:
On the bright side: A Terran made it through On the not-so-bright side, he'll likely knock out Flash next round (Bbyong can be a real passion-killer) He is but he apologizes for it. Hard to be mad at him :|
Bbyong reminds me of Supernova or Ryung. Always hanging there in the middle, showing lots of promise and good plays, knocking out top players convincingly and having a generally likable drama-free personality. But never quite having enough fuel left for the last mile.
Maybe he's a gatekeeper of some sort.
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On August 07 2015 23:12 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2015 23:04 HellHound wrote:On August 07 2015 23:00 Caihead wrote:On August 07 2015 22:56 HellHound wrote:On August 07 2015 22:55 Caihead wrote:
I feel it's just Terran players having to learn to play mech vs swarmhost all those months and zergs never having enough experience playing with out the swarmhost vs mech. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually. They did Life is just shit vs mech. If I mention skt players here does it counter as shitting on kt? No, it just makes you absolutely obnoxious and remind me why I hate LR threads some times. I don't know that many zergs strong vs mech tbh. It's not like it's some magic skt power Impact was always strong vs mech even before joining skt Soulkey would be good vs it if he wasn't on break at the moment. I know rogue plays like shit vs it too. Is Buyl any good vs it? There was a time when Flash looked unstoppable with thor hellbat bio vs Z for about 2 months before it got figured out, now that composition is laughed at. Life didn't figure out how to counter mass banshee mech comps in under 4 hours. Bbyong made alot of composition switches and managed to dictate the tempo of the game in the two series today, doesn't mean mech is unstoppable. I'm sure some coaches are looking at the replays and vods and realizing all the timings Life could have hit. Bbyong's mech was also almost entirely different from Innovation's mech, minimal turrets, mass thor, mass banshees vs no banshees, less tanks. Just because they made roughly the same units doesn't mean it's just one generic blob build. I would even go as far as to say Life's composition may have worked better vs Innovation's composition but got hit by something different.
There were minimal turrets cause there were only 7 mutas in 5 games.
Good mech reacts to what zerg does to a large extent after Life attacked bbyond with roach on coda he started building thors asap because almost any zerg will add some mutas there Life didn't so bbyong cut thor production and just massed tank banshee thor.
This isn't some new style bbyong is pulling out of his ass he has played it for a very long time (it just used to have ravens too cause sh) Life has died to this before he knows what bbyong was gonna play he had the time to prepare but did so poorly so he lost. Aside from Echo being an imba mech map he should have never lost the game on cactus. After bbyong was so slowed down rather than capitalizing on it Life just played for the super late game and let bbyong max. He could have allined or played the standard style of muta -> RHV -> Ultra queen infestor while pumping double air upgrades -> corruptor sweep -> ultra queen infestor or mutas.
He didn't deny bases well and let bbyong get away with a double hidden expo.
Bbyong and Life are very alike both like to play agressive both play their own unique style and both use builds that look awesome when they work and shit when they backfire.
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