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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 02 2015 11:40 GMT
#581
On June 02 2015 20:39 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:37 xAdra wrote:
What happened to Zest exactly. I was plaaying dota during his prime so I never watched any of his games, but I heard he's supposed to be the Protoss version of IMMvp. But then I return to sc2 and he seems to be in this massive slump?


Zest never was the protoss version of Mvp -.-

He just had a very good period where he won everything and thats it

Not even the real Mvp was a version of that Mvp people are always talking about
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
June 02 2015 11:40 GMT
#582
On June 02 2015 20:40 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:39 opisska wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:38 Shellshock wrote:
#1 terran vs #3 zerg hype!


who the hell do you consider a better zerg than life is beyond my imaginaton


@liquidret

And IdrA.
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Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
June 02 2015 11:40 GMT
#583
On June 02 2015 20:39 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:37 xAdra wrote:
What happened to Zest exactly. I was plaaying dota during his prime so I never watched any of his games, but I heard he's supposed to be the Protoss version of IMMvp. But then I return to sc2 and he seems to be in this massive slump?


Zest never was the protoss version of Mvp -.-

He just had a very good period where he won everything and thats it


He's still an incredibly good player in some matches and at times looks just terrible.

The issue is that people always look at the outcome of games and not the form of the player within it. If you pay attention to zest's play he combines brilliant play at times with massive mistakes.

It's that he can play so well at one time and so poorly at others that I think he may just have a mental issue/lack confidence.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 02 2015 11:41 GMT
#584
On June 02 2015 20:40 Shellshock wrote:
Life should have 10 pooled. He cant beat dream in macro. we already saw that

If he does literally anything weird, Dream will lose. Remember the proxy hatchery on Merry Go Round?
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 02 2015 11:41 GMT
#585
On June 02 2015 20:37 xAdra wrote:
What happened to Zest exactly. I was plaaying dota during his prime so I never watched any of his games, but I heard he's supposed to be the Protoss version of IMMvp. But then I return to sc2 and he seems to be in this massive slump?

He's the protoss version of soulkey, expect to see him on your sidebar under Starcraft: Brood War any time soon.

Thats the real elephant in the room btw, failed transitions return to brood war to lose to sea
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
June 02 2015 11:41 GMT
#586
On June 02 2015 20:40 Shellshock wrote:
Life should have 10 pooled. He cant beat dream in macro. we already saw that


pretty surprising that dream plays so greedy against life from all people, some next level meta
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
June 02 2015 11:41 GMT
#587
On June 02 2015 20:40 royalroadweed wrote:
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On June 02 2015 20:38 The_Templar wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:37 xAdra wrote:
What happened to Zest exactly. I was plaaying dota during his prime so I never watched any of his games, but I heard he's supposed to be the Protoss version of IMMvp. But then I return to sc2 and he seems to be in this massive slump?

I swear I've seen this exact post before. He lost to Life at the WCS Global finals, failed to qualify for GSL/S2SL, never looked the same again. TT

I think Terran contributed to it. His vs T was a chink in his armor that we never saw exploited because he was dominating at a time where terrans were endangered.

But it's not like Zest always loses to Terrans. He reks Bbyong every time they play and he has INnoVation's number, for example.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
June 02 2015 11:41 GMT
#588
On June 02 2015 20:39 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:38 Shellshock wrote:
#1 terran vs #3 zerg hype!


who the hell do you consider a better zerg than life is beyond my imaginaton


there's a creative zerg from Germany
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
elwoodng
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore438 Posts
June 02 2015 11:41 GMT
#589
On June 02 2015 20:35 Alucen-Will- wrote:
I'm still very confused by Zest atm. It really does feel as if there are two polar opposites in him.

I may be in the minority on these boards but I do possibly think that it could be mental

Perhaps this will be better for Zest in the long run, his non-ace record is actually pretty good. Take the pressure of being a lock for ace off for the time being.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 02 2015 11:42 GMT
#590
On June 02 2015 20:41 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:40 Shellshock wrote:
Life should have 10 pooled. He cant beat dream in macro. we already saw that


pretty surprising that dream plays so greedy against life from all people, some next level meta

Yeah the low ground CC was definitely a bold call considering who he is playing
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 02 2015 11:42 GMT
#591
On June 02 2015 20:40 NexUmbra wrote:
Everyone says that Life has won three GSLs but it's only two plus Blizzard Cup no?

Yep, it makes me sad that this is official though
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 02 2015 11:42 GMT
#592
Too bad it is his shitty map.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
June 02 2015 11:42 GMT
#593
On June 02 2015 20:41 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:37 xAdra wrote:
What happened to Zest exactly. I was plaaying dota during his prime so I never watched any of his games, but I heard he's supposed to be the Protoss version of IMMvp. But then I return to sc2 and he seems to be in this massive slump?

He's the protoss version of soulkey, expect to see him on your sidebar under Starcraft: Brood War any time soon.

Thats the real elephant in the room btw, failed transitions return to brood war to lose to sea


The harder you fail to transition the better you are at BW when you return, see Sea, Bisu.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 02 2015 11:42 GMT
#594
On June 02 2015 20:38 Shellshock wrote:
[SPL] SKT vs. KT Round 3 2015
(T)Dream vs. (Z)Life
Game 5: 2-2
Map: Expedition Lost

0:00
Dream spawns in the bottom left
Life spawns in the top right

2:00
hatch first for Life
CC first on the low ground for Dream
pool for Life
gas for Life
rax for dream
gas for Dream

3:00
bunker in the natural for Dream

4:00
factory for Dream
reactor for Dream

5:00
3rd CC for Dream
ling speed for Life
3rd base for Life
reactored hellion production started for Dream
starport for Dream
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18402 Posts
June 02 2015 11:42 GMT
#595
On June 02 2015 20:42 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:41 opisska wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:40 Shellshock wrote:
Life should have 10 pooled. He cant beat dream in macro. we already saw that


pretty surprising that dream plays so greedy against life from all people, some next level meta

Yeah the low ground CC was definitely a bold call considering who he is playing


I don't think Life would ever go for a "fuck it I 10pool" in a teamleague ace match.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 02 2015 11:43 GMT
#596
On June 02 2015 20:42 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:41 bo1b wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:37 xAdra wrote:
What happened to Zest exactly. I was plaaying dota during his prime so I never watched any of his games, but I heard he's supposed to be the Protoss version of IMMvp. But then I return to sc2 and he seems to be in this massive slump?

He's the protoss version of soulkey, expect to see him on your sidebar under Starcraft: Brood War any time soon.

Thats the real elephant in the room btw, failed transitions return to brood war to lose to sea


The harder you fail to transition the better you are at BW when you return, see Sea, Bisu.

What about Effort then?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
June 02 2015 11:43 GMT
#597
On June 02 2015 20:40 NexUmbra wrote:
Everyone says that Life has won three GSLs but it's only two plus Blizzard Cup no?

Counts as an official GSL win and he has a pin for it. Polt also never won Code S but he's a GSL winner.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Cptn wet pants
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium47 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-02 11:44:10
June 02 2015 11:43 GMT
#598
On June 02 2015 20:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:39 sharkie wrote:
On June 02 2015 20:37 xAdra wrote:
What happened to Zest exactly. I was plaaying dota during his prime so I never watched any of his games, but I heard he's supposed to be the Protoss version of IMMvp. But then I return to sc2 and he seems to be in this massive slump?


Zest never was the protoss version of Mvp -.-

He just had a very good period where he won everything and thats it

Not even the real Mvp was a version of that Mvp people are always talking about


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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 02 2015 11:43 GMT
#599
On June 02 2015 20:43 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:40 NexUmbra wrote:
Everyone says that Life has won three GSLs but it's only two plus Blizzard Cup no?

Counts as an official GSL win and he has a pin for it. Polt also never won Code S but he's a GSL winner.

I think the officials are wrong, bam
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
June 02 2015 11:43 GMT
#600
On June 02 2015 20:43 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2015 20:40 NexUmbra wrote:
Everyone says that Life has won three GSLs but it's only two plus Blizzard Cup no?

Counts as an official GSL win and he has a pin for it. Polt also never won Code S but he's a GSL winner.


However I did not count these non-GSLs in my GOAT metrics, so they are pretty worthless
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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