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On June 02 2015 20:39 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 20:37 xAdra wrote: What happened to Zest exactly. I was plaaying dota during his prime so I never watched any of his games, but I heard he's supposed to be the Protoss version of IMMvp. But then I return to sc2 and he seems to be in this massive slump? Zest never was the protoss version of Mvp -.- He just had a very good period where he won everything and thats it Not even the real Mvp was a version of that Mvp people are always talking about
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On June 02 2015 20:40 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 20:39 opisska wrote:On June 02 2015 20:38 Shellshock wrote: #1 terran vs #3 zerg hype! who the hell do you consider a better zerg than life is beyond my imaginaton @liquidret And IdrA.
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On June 02 2015 20:39 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 20:37 xAdra wrote: What happened to Zest exactly. I was plaaying dota during his prime so I never watched any of his games, but I heard he's supposed to be the Protoss version of IMMvp. But then I return to sc2 and he seems to be in this massive slump? Zest never was the protoss version of Mvp -.- He just had a very good period where he won everything and thats it
He's still an incredibly good player in some matches and at times looks just terrible.
The issue is that people always look at the outcome of games and not the form of the player within it. If you pay attention to zest's play he combines brilliant play at times with massive mistakes.
It's that he can play so well at one time and so poorly at others that I think he may just have a mental issue/lack confidence.
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On June 02 2015 20:40 Shellshock wrote: Life should have 10 pooled. He cant beat dream in macro. we already saw that If he does literally anything weird, Dream will lose. Remember the proxy hatchery on Merry Go Round?
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On June 02 2015 20:37 xAdra wrote: What happened to Zest exactly. I was plaaying dota during his prime so I never watched any of his games, but I heard he's supposed to be the Protoss version of IMMvp. But then I return to sc2 and he seems to be in this massive slump? He's the protoss version of soulkey, expect to see him on your sidebar under Starcraft: Brood War any time soon.
Thats the real elephant in the room btw, failed transitions return to brood war to lose to sea
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On June 02 2015 20:40 Shellshock wrote: Life should have 10 pooled. He cant beat dream in macro. we already saw that
pretty surprising that dream plays so greedy against life from all people, some next level meta
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On June 02 2015 20:40 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 20:38 The_Templar wrote:On June 02 2015 20:37 xAdra wrote: What happened to Zest exactly. I was plaaying dota during his prime so I never watched any of his games, but I heard he's supposed to be the Protoss version of IMMvp. But then I return to sc2 and he seems to be in this massive slump? I swear I've seen this exact post before. He lost to Life at the WCS Global finals, failed to qualify for GSL/S2SL, never looked the same again. TT I think Terran contributed to it. His vs T was a chink in his armor that we never saw exploited because he was dominating at a time where terrans were endangered. But it's not like Zest always loses to Terrans. He reks Bbyong every time they play and he has INnoVation's number, for example.
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On June 02 2015 20:39 opisska wrote:who the hell do you consider a better zerg than life is beyond my imaginaton
there's a creative zerg from Germany
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On June 02 2015 20:35 Alucen-Will- wrote: I'm still very confused by Zest atm. It really does feel as if there are two polar opposites in him.
I may be in the minority on these boards but I do possibly think that it could be mental Perhaps this will be better for Zest in the long run, his non-ace record is actually pretty good. Take the pressure of being a lock for ace off for the time being.
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On June 02 2015 20:41 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 20:40 Shellshock wrote: Life should have 10 pooled. He cant beat dream in macro. we already saw that pretty surprising that dream plays so greedy against life from all people, some next level meta Yeah the low ground CC was definitely a bold call considering who he is playing
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On June 02 2015 20:40 NexUmbra wrote: Everyone says that Life has won three GSLs but it's only two plus Blizzard Cup no? Yep, it makes me sad that this is official though
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Too bad it is his shitty map.
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On June 02 2015 20:41 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 20:37 xAdra wrote: What happened to Zest exactly. I was plaaying dota during his prime so I never watched any of his games, but I heard he's supposed to be the Protoss version of IMMvp. But then I return to sc2 and he seems to be in this massive slump? He's the protoss version of soulkey, expect to see him on your sidebar under Starcraft: Brood War any time soon. Thats the real elephant in the room btw, failed transitions return to brood war to lose to sea
The harder you fail to transition the better you are at BW when you return, see Sea, Bisu.
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On June 02 2015 20:38 Shellshock wrote:0:00 Dream spawns in the bottom left Life spawns in the top right 2:00 hatch first for Life CC first on the low ground for Dream pool for Life gas for Life rax for dream gas for Dream
3:00 bunker in the natural for Dream
4:00 factory for Dream reactor for Dream
5:00 3rd CC for Dream ling speed for Life 3rd base for Life reactored hellion production started for Dream starport for Dream
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On June 02 2015 20:42 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 20:41 opisska wrote:On June 02 2015 20:40 Shellshock wrote: Life should have 10 pooled. He cant beat dream in macro. we already saw that pretty surprising that dream plays so greedy against life from all people, some next level meta Yeah the low ground CC was definitely a bold call considering who he is playing
I don't think Life would ever go for a "fuck it I 10pool" in a teamleague ace match.
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On June 02 2015 20:42 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 20:41 bo1b wrote:On June 02 2015 20:37 xAdra wrote: What happened to Zest exactly. I was plaaying dota during his prime so I never watched any of his games, but I heard he's supposed to be the Protoss version of IMMvp. But then I return to sc2 and he seems to be in this massive slump? He's the protoss version of soulkey, expect to see him on your sidebar under Starcraft: Brood War any time soon. Thats the real elephant in the room btw, failed transitions return to brood war to lose to sea The harder you fail to transition the better you are at BW when you return, see Sea, Bisu. What about Effort then?
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On June 02 2015 20:40 NexUmbra wrote: Everyone says that Life has won three GSLs but it's only two plus Blizzard Cup no? Counts as an official GSL win and he has a pin for it. Polt also never won Code S but he's a GSL winner.
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On June 02 2015 20:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 20:39 sharkie wrote:On June 02 2015 20:37 xAdra wrote: What happened to Zest exactly. I was plaaying dota during his prime so I never watched any of his games, but I heard he's supposed to be the Protoss version of IMMvp. But then I return to sc2 and he seems to be in this massive slump? Zest never was the protoss version of Mvp -.- He just had a very good period where he won everything and thats it Not even the real Mvp was a version of that Mvp people are always talking about
Obligatory
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On June 02 2015 20:43 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 20:40 NexUmbra wrote: Everyone says that Life has won three GSLs but it's only two plus Blizzard Cup no? Counts as an official GSL win and he has a pin for it. Polt also never won Code S but he's a GSL winner. I think the officials are wrong, bam
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On June 02 2015 20:43 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2015 20:40 NexUmbra wrote: Everyone says that Life has won three GSLs but it's only two plus Blizzard Cup no? Counts as an official GSL win and he has a pin for it. Polt also never won Code S but he's a GSL winner.
However I did not count these non-GSLs in my GOAT metrics, so they are pretty worthless
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