iAsonu vs Xenocider Game 1 iAsonu vs Xenocider Game 2 iAsonu vs Xenocider Game 3 Harstem vs NXZ Game 1 Harstem vs NXZ Game 2 Harstem vs NXZ Game 3 Losers Match Game 1 Losers Match Game 2 Losers Match Game 3 Winners Match Game 1 Winners Match Game 2 Winners Match Game 3 Final Match Game 1 Final Match Game 2 Final Match Game 3
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
60%
★★★ - Good game (1)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
20%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: iAsonu vs Xenocider Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: iAsonu vs Xenocider Game 2
★★★ - Good game (4)
57%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
14%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: iAsonu vs Xenocider Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
10%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Harstem vs NXZ Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Harstem vs NXZ Game 2
★★★ - Good game (3)
43%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
43%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
14%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Harstem vs NXZ Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Loser's Match game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Losers' Match Game 2
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
75%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
25%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Losers' Match Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Losers' Match Game 3
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
50%
★★★ - Good game (1)
25%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
25%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Losers' Match Game 3
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
40%
★★★ - Good game (1)
20%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
20%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Winners' Match Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Winners' Match Game 2
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (6)
55%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
18%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
18%
★★★ - Good game (1)
9%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Winners' Match Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Winners' Match Game 3
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
0 total votes
Your vote: Winners' Match Game 3
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
56%
★★★ - Good game (2)
22%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
11%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
11%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Final Match Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Final Match Game 2
★★★ - Good game (6)
67%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
11%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
11%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
11%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Final Match Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Final Match Game 3
★★★ - Good game (5)
56%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
22%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
22%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Final Match Game 3
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): iAsonu and Xenocider (Vote): iAsonu and Harstem (Vote): NXZ and iAsonu (Vote): Xenocider and Harstem (Vote): Xenocider and NXZ (Vote): Harstem and NXZ
Poll: Heart?
Xenocider and Harstem (7)
37%
iAsonu and Harstem (4)
21%
NXZ and iAsonu (3)
16%
Harstem and NXZ (3)
16%
iAsonu and Xenocider (1)
5%
Xenocider and NXZ (1)
5%
19 total votes
Your vote: Heart?
(Vote): iAsonu and Xenocider (Vote): iAsonu and Harstem (Vote): NXZ and iAsonu (Vote): Xenocider and Harstem (Vote): Xenocider and NXZ (Vote): Harstem and NXZ
Harstem, Xenocider, NXZ, and iAsonuin in WCS Premier Season 2 round of 32. Harstem is at 4.28% Blizzcon Chances, with a 65.18% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 5.88%, or 1.3% if they lose. NXZ is at 0.09% Blizzcon Chances, with a 39.6% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.2%, or 0.02% if they lose. Xenocider is at 0.13% Blizzcon Chances, with a 44.64% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.26%, or 0.03% if they lose. iAsonu is at 0.42% Blizzcon Chances, with a 50.58% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.73%, or 0.1% if they lose.
ForGG has a 22.63% chance to win ----going from 60.76% to 99.34% if they get 1st, or 75.49% if they get 2nd. Hydra has a 9.23% chance to win ----going from 86.68% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.99% if they get 2nd. Bunny has a 9.22% chance to win ----going from 30.35% to 97.16% if they get 1st, or 52.29% if they get 2nd. Polt has a 8.71% chance to win ----going from 90.34% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.99% if they get 2nd. MarineLorD has a 6.06% chance to win ----going from 6.73% to 47.29% if they get 1st, or 12.18% if they get 2nd. + Show Spoiler [More Winning Chances] +
Jaedong has a 5.59% chance to win ----going from 17.02% to 82.34% if they get 1st, or 36.67% if they get 2nd. Petraeus has a 5.13% chance to win ----going from 4.76% to 40.91% if they get 1st, or 2.81% if they don't. Lilbow has a 5.11% chance to win ----going from 8.9% to 61.51% if they get 1st, or 20.61% if they get 2nd. MajOr has a 3.94% chance to win ----going from 5.22% to 49.85% if they get 1st, or 13.49% if they get 2nd. Snute has a 3.8% chance to win ----going from 23.04% to 99.04% if they get 1st, or 61.98% if they get 2nd. StarDust has a 3.19% chance to win ----going from 2.88% to 35.7% if they get 1st, or 1.79% if they don't. MaSa has a 3.1% chance to win ----going from 3.61% to 43.94% if they get 1st, or 2.32% if they don't. MaNa has a 2.68% chance to win ----going from 5.51% to 67.26% if they get 1st, or 17.38% if they get 2nd. Harstem has a 2.09% chance to win ----going from 4.28% to 65.58% if they get 1st, or 2.97% if they don't. GunGFuBanDa has a 1.83% chance to win ----going from 1.62% to 33.99% if they get 1st, or 1.01% if they don't. FireCake has a 1.47% chance to win ----going from 2.85% to 61.91% if they get 1st, or 1.97% if they don't. Ret has a 1.45% chance to win ----going from 1.16% to 32.57% if they get 1st, or 0.69% if they don't. elfi has a 1.14% chance to win ----going from 1.05% to 35.21% if they get 1st, or 0.66% if they don't. iaguz has a 0.83% chance to win ----going from 0.9% to 36.98% if they get 1st, or 0.6% if they don't. iAsonu has a 0.63% chance to win ----going from 0.42% to 27.35% if they get 1st, or 0.25% if they don't. TLO has a 0.62% chance to win ----going from 1.62% to 71.84% if they get 1st, or 1.19% if they don't. Has has a 0.4% chance to win ----going from 0.65% to 48.35% if they get 1st, or 0.46% if they don't. Kelazhur has a 0.32% chance to win ----going from 0.3% to 28.76% if they get 1st, or 0.21% if they don't. Xenocider has a 0.32% chance to win ----going from 0.13% to 18.01% if they get 1st, or 0.07% if they don't. Elazer has a 0.26% chance to win ----going from 0.1% to 17.38% if they get 1st, or 0.06% if they don't. NXZ has a 0.25% chance to win ----going from 0.09% to 15.95% if they get 1st, or 0.05% if they don't.
Hoping for Harstem first and Xenocider (because what a name!) second, but have a sneaking suspicion that iAsonu will get through. Regardless, going to stay up until the wee hours because the #passion is still alive with me.
Harstem, Xenocider, NXZ, and iAsonuin in WCS Premier Season 2 round of 32. Harstem is at 4.28% Blizzcon Chances, with a 65.18% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 5.88%, or 1.3% if they lose. NXZ is at 0.09% Blizzcon Chances, with a 39.6% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.2%, or 0.02% if they lose. Xenocider is at 0.13% Blizzcon Chances, with a 44.64% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.26%, or 0.03% if they lose. iAsonu is at 0.42% Blizzcon Chances, with a 50.58% chance to win this match. If they win their Blizzcon Chances go up to 0.73%, or 0.1% if they lose.
ForGG has a 22.63% chance to win ----going from 60.76% to 99.34% if they get 1st, or 75.49% if they get 2nd. Hydra has a 9.23% chance to win ----going from 86.68% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.99% if they get 2nd. Bunny has a 9.22% chance to win ----going from 30.35% to 97.16% if they get 1st, or 52.29% if they get 2nd. Polt has a 8.71% chance to win ----going from 90.34% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.99% if they get 2nd. MarineLorD has a 6.06% chance to win ----going from 6.73% to 47.29% if they get 1st, or 12.18% if they get 2nd. + Show Spoiler [More Winning Chances] +
Jaedong has a 5.59% chance to win ----going from 17.02% to 82.34% if they get 1st, or 36.67% if they get 2nd. Petraeus has a 5.13% chance to win ----going from 4.76% to 40.91% if they get 1st, or 2.81% if they don't. Lilbow has a 5.11% chance to win ----going from 8.9% to 61.51% if they get 1st, or 20.61% if they get 2nd. MajOr has a 3.94% chance to win ----going from 5.22% to 49.85% if they get 1st, or 13.49% if they get 2nd. Snute has a 3.8% chance to win ----going from 23.04% to 99.04% if they get 1st, or 61.98% if they get 2nd. StarDust has a 3.19% chance to win ----going from 2.88% to 35.7% if they get 1st, or 1.79% if they don't. MaSa has a 3.1% chance to win ----going from 3.61% to 43.94% if they get 1st, or 2.32% if they don't. MaNa has a 2.68% chance to win ----going from 5.51% to 67.26% if they get 1st, or 17.38% if they get 2nd. Harstem has a 2.09% chance to win ----going from 4.28% to 65.58% if they get 1st, or 2.97% if they don't. GunGFuBanDa has a 1.83% chance to win ----going from 1.62% to 33.99% if they get 1st, or 1.01% if they don't. FireCake has a 1.47% chance to win ----going from 2.85% to 61.91% if they get 1st, or 1.97% if they don't. Ret has a 1.45% chance to win ----going from 1.16% to 32.57% if they get 1st, or 0.69% if they don't. elfi has a 1.14% chance to win ----going from 1.05% to 35.21% if they get 1st, or 0.66% if they don't. iaguz has a 0.83% chance to win ----going from 0.9% to 36.98% if they get 1st, or 0.6% if they don't. iAsonu has a 0.63% chance to win ----going from 0.42% to 27.35% if they get 1st, or 0.25% if they don't. TLO has a 0.62% chance to win ----going from 1.62% to 71.84% if they get 1st, or 1.19% if they don't. Has has a 0.4% chance to win ----going from 0.65% to 48.35% if they get 1st, or 0.46% if they don't. Kelazhur has a 0.32% chance to win ----going from 0.3% to 28.76% if they get 1st, or 0.21% if they don't. Xenocider has a 0.32% chance to win ----going from 0.13% to 18.01% if they get 1st, or 0.07% if they don't. Elazer has a 0.26% chance to win ----going from 0.1% to 17.38% if they get 1st, or 0.06% if they don't. NXZ has a 0.25% chance to win ----going from 0.09% to 15.95% if they get 1st, or 0.05% if they don't.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
60%
★★★ - Good game (1)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
20%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: iAsonu vs Xenocider Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On May 25 2015 04:16 Elentos wrote: Hey guys got promoted on ladder so my passion for playing overwhelmed my passion for watching. Have I missed anything of value so far?
On May 25 2015 04:16 Elentos wrote: Hey guys got promoted on ladder so my passion for playing overwhelmed my passion for watching. Have I missed anything of value so far?
so you're dia now?
No, the game decided to give me my plat status back for beating a dia Terran after having me crush gold league scrubs for months. I guess MMR decaying kept me from being where I should have been *sigh*. The quest for dia has begun. Maybe.
On May 25 2015 04:16 Elentos wrote: Hey guys got promoted on ladder so my passion for playing overwhelmed my passion for watching. Have I missed anything of value so far?
so you're dia now?
No, the game decided to give me my plat status back for beating a dia Terran after having me crush gold league scrubs for months. I guess MMR decaying kept me from being where I should have been *sigh*. The quest for dia has begun. Maybe.
On May 25 2015 04:16 Elentos wrote: Hey guys got promoted on ladder so my passion for playing overwhelmed my passion for watching. Have I missed anything of value so far?
so you're dia now?
No, the game decided to give me my plat status back for beating a dia Terran after having me crush gold league scrubs for months. I guess MMR decaying kept me from being where I should have been *sigh*. The quest for dia has begun. Maybe.
On May 25 2015 04:16 Elentos wrote: Hey guys got promoted on ladder so my passion for playing overwhelmed my passion for watching. Have I missed anything of value so far?
so you're dia now?
No, the game decided to give me my plat status back for beating a dia Terran after having me crush gold league scrubs for months. I guess MMR decaying kept me from being where I should have been *sigh*. The quest for dia has begun. Maybe.
I'm not sure what ladder does, I'm in top 8 dia of my division and I play silver-masters in random succession regardless of my winrate
On May 25 2015 04:16 Elentos wrote: Hey guys got promoted on ladder so my passion for playing overwhelmed my passion for watching. Have I missed anything of value so far?
so you're dia now?
No, the game decided to give me my plat status back for beating a dia Terran after having me crush gold league scrubs for months. I guess MMR decaying kept me from being where I should have been *sigh*. The quest for dia has begun. Maybe.
if Ej and GumBa can be dia, you also can do it
The prospect of getting roach dropped by you on ladder will fuel my SC2 passion. So did I miss anything cool before the series began?
On May 25 2015 04:16 Elentos wrote: Hey guys got promoted on ladder so my passion for playing overwhelmed my passion for watching. Have I missed anything of value so far?
so you're dia now?
No, the game decided to give me my plat status back for beating a dia Terran after having me crush gold league scrubs for months. I guess MMR decaying kept me from being where I should have been *sigh*. The quest for dia has begun. Maybe.
if Ej and GumBa can be dia, you also can do it
we need more TL heroes in Olimo
Koreans have it so much better there, so hard to play on KR ;;
On May 25 2015 04:16 Elentos wrote: Hey guys got promoted on ladder so my passion for playing overwhelmed my passion for watching. Have I missed anything of value so far?
so you're dia now?
No, the game decided to give me my plat status back for beating a dia Terran after having me crush gold league scrubs for months. I guess MMR decaying kept me from being where I should have been *sigh*. The quest for dia has begun. Maybe.
if Ej and GumBa can be dia, you also can do it
The prospect of getting roach dropped by you on ladder will fuel my SC2 passion. So did I miss anything cool before the series began?
On May 25 2015 04:16 Elentos wrote: Hey guys got promoted on ladder so my passion for playing overwhelmed my passion for watching. Have I missed anything of value so far?
so you're dia now?
No, the game decided to give me my plat status back for beating a dia Terran after having me crush gold league scrubs for months. I guess MMR decaying kept me from being where I should have been *sigh*. The quest for dia has begun. Maybe.
if Ej and GumBa can be dia, you also can do it
The prospect of getting roach dropped by you on ladder will fuel my SC2 passion. So did I miss anything cool before the series began?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
14%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: iAsonu vs Xenocider Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
One day Libocider will unleash his true potential and drop the nerves. When that day comes, we will rally behind the prodigal foreign hope, and with the USAUSAUSA chants to ward off koreans, we will follow his ascent to his first EPS championship.
"Earlier, you said that you thought the other players in the group are better than you. Were you lying to me earlier?" "It's customary in China to be modest. I was just being modest."
On May 25 2015 04:37 KingofdaHipHop wrote: well shit now i feel bad for Liquibetting harstem and xenu
me too. though i had a feeling iA was going to do good. just thought xeno had pretty good TvZ but apparently he's been pretty bad in the matchup recently according to aligulac.
On May 25 2015 04:36 Aocowns wrote: One day Libocider will unleash his true potential and drop the nerves. When that day comes, we will rally behind the prodigal foreign hope, and with the USAUSAUSA chants to ward off koreans, we will follow his ascent to his first EPS championship.
On May 25 2015 04:37 GumBa wrote: is iAsonu the best foreigner?
Anyone else remember when the best foreigner was going to be xiaOt?
literally who
He was on iG many moons ago. He was an absolute killer chinese protoss who randomly retired. He was going to be a part of the "Foreigners go to code A" movement back then but declined because it took place during chinese new year. Who knows what could have happened if he decided to go
If Kane retires to cast full-time, I will throw so many e-dollars at him. Unfortunately, they will be Zimbabwean dollars, because #AfricanSwag, I guess? I probably shouldn't hashtag.
On May 25 2015 04:37 GumBa wrote: is iAsonu the best foreigner?
Anyone else remember when the best foreigner was going to be xiaOt?
literally who
he was a manga character that wrecked Marineking when he was in (his) Prime. iirc he beat some other notable players in the qualifier and also he beat the mighty Gracken
On May 25 2015 04:47 Wildmoon wrote: NXZ looks pretty intense. lol
These are intense times my friend
and GOD DAMN IT his ID is En Ex Zedd
You guys called GanZi "Ganji" so pronounce the Kid's ID correctly, god damn it.
oh i thought he was just called ganzi
Something to do with pronunciation differences between english and korean. For a long time people called him ganzi then the GSL casters changed it and everyone else followed suit
On May 25 2015 04:37 GumBa wrote: is iAsonu the best foreigner?
Anyone else remember when the best foreigner was going to be xiaOt?
literally who
he was a manga character that wrecked Marineking when he was in (his) Prime. iirc he beat some other notable players in the qualifier and also he beat the mighty Gracken
he was pretty succesful in wc3 more than anything :D
I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
aLive is gonna channel the SBENU and win a tournament this year probably. Unexpectedly so.
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
I still forget classic was good enough to win a GSL personally.
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
Holy shit I forgot Roro even existed, let alone won a GSL. I even have the list of champs open and I forgot him
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
meanwhile everybody actually forgets that jjakji exists in 2015 i think
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
I still forget classic was good enough to win a GSL personally.
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
meanwhile everybody actually forgets that jjakji exists in 2015 i think
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
He played glorious Tassadar in the final. Puzzle was supposed to be the next big thing
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
I still forget classic was good enough to win a GSL personally.
classic vs life on habitation tho
All I remember is how Classic repeatedly beat Maru and how mad Terrans would get.
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
He played glorious Tassadar in the final. Puzzle was supposed to be the next big thing
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
He played glorious Tassadar in the final. Puzzle was supposed to be the next big thing
Him and Coca (the other "next big thing") left for LoL, then came back, then left again.
EDIT: Who remembers sickness that one "next big thing" from that immortal micro video
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
who the fuck is Puzzle
you need to watch some old GSL VODs
the only ones I watched were Suhosin's, I think I'm done with GSL vods
Him and the rest of OG ZeNex (of which coca/puzzle/sickness were all a part of IIRC) were baller as fuck
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
who the fuck is Puzzle
you need to watch some old GSL VODs
the only ones I watched were Suhosin's, I think I'm done with GSL vods
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
who the fuck is Puzzle
you need to watch some old GSL VODs
Everyone circlejerking about his blink apm vs Sheth
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
who the fuck is Puzzle
you need to watch some old GSL VODs
the only ones I watched were Suhosin's, I think I'm done with GSL vods
you missed Life winning GSL because Mvp decided to build 3rd CC on location
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
He played glorious Tassadar in the final. Puzzle was supposed to be the next big thing
Him and Coca (the other "next big thing") left for LoL, then came back, then left again.
EDIT: Who remembers sickness that one "next big thing" from that immortal micro video
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
who the fuck is Puzzle
you need to watch some old GSL VODs
the only ones I watched were Suhosin's, I think I'm done with GSL vods
Him and the rest of OG ZeNex (of which coca/puzzle/sickness were all a part of IIRC) were baller as fuck
Fuck yeah Sickness, this guy was so good. And he destroyed the EU server when he was in Italia. Too bad he's playing LoL now.
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
who the fuck is Puzzle
you need to watch some old GSL VODs
the only ones I watched were Suhosin's, I think I'm done with GSL vods
you missed Life winning GSL because Mvp decided to build 3rd CC on location
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
who the fuck is Puzzle
you need to watch some old GSL VODs
the only ones I watched were Suhosin's, I think I'm done with GSL vods
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
who the fuck is Puzzle
you need to watch some old GSL VODs
the only ones I watched were Suhosin's, I think I'm done with GSL vods
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
He played glorious Tassadar in the final. Puzzle was supposed to be the next big thing
Him and Coca (the other "next big thing") left for LoL, then came back, then left again.
EDIT: Who remembers sickness that one "next big thing" from that immortal micro video
On May 25 2015 05:00 Alchemik wrote:
On May 25 2015 05:00 Ej_ wrote:
On May 25 2015 04:59 Alchemik wrote:
On May 25 2015 04:58 royalroadweed wrote:
On May 25 2015 04:57 Poopfeast 024 wrote:
On May 25 2015 04:56 Shellshock wrote:
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
who the fuck is Puzzle
you need to watch some old GSL VODs
the only ones I watched were Suhosin's, I think I'm done with GSL vods
Him and the rest of OG ZeNex (of which coca/puzzle/sickness were all a part of IIRC) were baller as fuck
Fuck yeah Sickness, this guy was so good. And he destroyed the EU server when he was in Italia. Too bad he's playing LoL now.
Is he good at it/going by sickness? I watch a lot of LCS and haven't seen the ID.
Also I totally agree Code A should be a tournament again. If GPL can be a tournament that seeds into WCS code A can be a tournament that can feed into code S.
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
who the fuck is Puzzle
you need to watch some old GSL VODs
the only ones I watched were Suhosin's, I think I'm done with GSL vods
what happened to yugioh
Anyone who hasn't seen Yugioh's mad rampage through GSTL has some vods to watch
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
who the fuck is Puzzle
you need to watch some old GSL VODs
the only ones I watched were Suhosin's, I think I'm done with GSL vods
you missed Life winning GSL because Mvp decided to build 3rd CC on location
but I didn't miss 1,5 base bane drop into muta
No one knows to this day how he made the quarterfinals of the super tournament but we enjoyed watching it
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
who the fuck is Puzzle
you need to watch some old GSL VODs
the only ones I watched were Suhosin's, I think I'm done with GSL vods
you missed Life winning GSL because Mvp decided to build 3rd CC on location
but I didn't miss 1,5 base bane drop into muta
No one knows to this day how he made the quarterfinals of the super tournament but we enjoyed watching it
didn't he come back randomly into some quali in 2014/15 and eliminate Jaedong?
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
who the fuck is Puzzle
you need to watch some old GSL VODs
the only ones I watched were Suhosin's, I think I'm done with GSL vods
what happened to yugioh
I think he disappeared with the old format Code A.
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
He played glorious Tassadar in the final. Puzzle was supposed to be the next big thing
Him and Coca (the other "next big thing") left for LoL, then came back, then left again.
EDIT: Who remembers sickness that one "next big thing" from that immortal micro video
On May 25 2015 05:00 Alchemik wrote:
On May 25 2015 05:00 Ej_ wrote:
On May 25 2015 04:59 Alchemik wrote:
On May 25 2015 04:58 royalroadweed wrote:
On May 25 2015 04:57 Poopfeast 024 wrote:
On May 25 2015 04:56 Shellshock wrote:
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
who the fuck is Puzzle
you need to watch some old GSL VODs
the only ones I watched were Suhosin's, I think I'm done with GSL vods
Him and the rest of OG ZeNex (of which coca/puzzle/sickness were all a part of IIRC) were baller as fuck
Fuck yeah Sickness, this guy was so good. And he destroyed the EU server when he was in Italia. Too bad he's playing LoL now.
Is he good at it/going by sickness? I watch a lot of LCS and haven't seen the ID.
Also I totally agree Code A should be a tournament again. If GPL can be a tournament that seeds into WCS code A can be a tournament that can feed into code S.
On May 25 2015 04:54 royalroadweed wrote: I think aLive has become a very well known player, by virtue of people remembering that he's the most obscure and "invisible' player. If that makes any sense.
Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
who the fuck is Puzzle
you need to watch some old GSL VODs
the only ones I watched were Suhosin's, I think I'm done with GSL vods
what happened to yugioh
Anyone who hasn't seen Yugioh's mad rampage through GSTL has some vods to watch
Last time I've heard about him he was high diamond.
On May 25 2015 04:56 Shellshock wrote: [quote] Yes it's like how people say sniper or seed are the most forgettable gsl champs but they are brought up so much as being forgettable ones that they are well known
Roro was the only one i forgot from the gsl champ quiz
I'm still salty about that quiz. Who remembered that Puzzle won Code A anyway?
who the fuck is Puzzle
you need to watch some old GSL VODs
the only ones I watched were Suhosin's, I think I'm done with GSL vods
you missed Life winning GSL because Mvp decided to build 3rd CC on location
but I didn't miss 1,5 base bane drop into muta
No one knows to this day how he made the quarterfinals of the super tournament but we enjoyed watching it
didn't he come back randomly into some quali in 2014/15 and eliminate Jaedong?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
10%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
10%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Harstem vs NXZ Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On May 25 2015 05:20 Alchemik wrote: "just play like Life" - HuK, 2015
I have been doing it wrong all this time
who were you playing like
What''s the shittiest Zerg you can think of?
does JD count
Well, I wouldn't mind being on JD's level Let's just say I played like myself which is really, really bad D:
But did you play Zerg like I do when I off-race every now and then?
r-roach drop?
I haven't off-raced as Zerg in months, and I was too much of a scrub to even come up with roach drops. However, I went mass roach in ZvZ when muta ZvZ was meta.
On May 25 2015 05:20 Alchemik wrote: "just play like Life" - HuK, 2015
I have been doing it wrong all this time
who were you playing like
What''s the shittiest Zerg you can think of?
does JD count
Well, I wouldn't mind being on JD's level Let's just say I played like myself which is really, really bad D:
But did you play Zerg like I do when I off-race every now and then?
r-roach drop?
I haven't off-raced as Zerg in months, and I was too much of a scrub to even come up with roach drops. However, I went mass roach in ZvZ when muta ZvZ was meta.
I don't make roaches in ZvZ, they're way too mainstream
On May 25 2015 05:20 Alchemik wrote: "just play like Life" - HuK, 2015
I have been doing it wrong all this time
who were you playing like
What''s the shittiest Zerg you can think of?
does JD count
Well, I wouldn't mind being on JD's level Let's just say I played like myself which is really, really bad D:
But did you play Zerg like I do when I off-race every now and then?
r-roach drop?
I haven't off-raced as Zerg in months, and I was too much of a scrub to even come up with roach drops. However, I went mass roach in ZvZ when muta ZvZ was meta.
I don't make roaches in ZvZ, they're way too mainstream
I made them when they weren't the meta choice, I was pretty proud of myself for it. But I iz scrub with Zerg. Much easier to off-race as Protoss.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
43%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
14%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Harstem vs NXZ Game 2
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On May 25 2015 05:33 Elentos wrote: I remember the old days where people would switch into 40 mutas vP in the late game. Nowadays you never even see that many mutas in one game.
Real men go full yolo on the muta's, just ask soO!
On May 25 2015 05:33 Elentos wrote: I remember the old days where people would switch into 40 mutas vP in the late game. Nowadays you never even see that many mutas in one game.
On May 25 2015 05:29 DarkLordOlli wrote: NXZ needs to watch some WoL vods
Or learn to not morph broodlords where they'll be insta-killed
Uh, hiding in a corner of his 3rd base guarded by his entire army is a pretty good spot
On that map? If he had moved them behind his 3rd/main before morphing they all would have finished and they wouldn't have gotten blinked on
I just feel like he wasn't expecting Harstem to attack at that moment. It was literally perfect
While I don't disagree that it was Harstem's intelligent attack moreso than NXZ's poor positioning that doesn't change the fact that there was much better positioning. Especially considering that he could have put them behind the nexus and they still could have shot and still would have been more protected.
On May 25 2015 05:33 Elentos wrote: I remember the old days where people would switch into 40 mutas vP in the late game. Nowadays you never even see that many mutas in one game.
On May 25 2015 05:33 Elentos wrote: I remember the old days where people would switch into 40 mutas vP in the late game. Nowadays you never even see that many mutas in one game.
stalker good unit
I mean... soO went mutas almost every game in the GSL finals vs Zest and Zest had blink stalkers and phoenixes in a lot of those games. So clearly, you all are doing it wrong because a GSL finalist knows better than anyone else, right?
On May 25 2015 05:33 Elentos wrote: I remember the old days where people would switch into 40 mutas vP in the late game. Nowadays you never even see that many mutas in one game.
stalker good unit
I mean... soO went mutas almost every game in the GSL finals vs Zest and Zest had blink stalkers and phoenixes in a lot of those games. So clearly, you all are doing it wrong because a GSL finalist knows better than anyone else, right?
On May 25 2015 05:33 Elentos wrote: I remember the old days where people would switch into 40 mutas vP in the late game. Nowadays you never even see that many mutas in one game.
stalker good unit
I mean... soO went mutas almost every game in the GSL finals vs Zest and Zest had blink stalkers and phoenixes in a lot of those games. So clearly, you all are doing it wrong because a GSL finalist knows better than anyone else, right?
That game on Yeonsu is one of the greatest derp moments in human history.
On May 25 2015 05:29 DarkLordOlli wrote: NXZ needs to watch some WoL vods
Or learn to not morph broodlords where they'll be insta-killed
Uh, hiding in a corner of his 3rd base guarded by his entire army is a pretty good spot
I wonder when zergs forgot that they need massive spine forests to survive 3 base timings if they're teching to greater spire
Roughly when SH got changed. No point in having spine/spore walls anymore
Of course there is. You survive three base timings and actually get to BL/infestor.
I think with the long list of counters/nerfs to BL/infestor it just became more worthwhile to make a few BL and not "waste" the money on spine/spore walls.
On May 25 2015 05:29 DarkLordOlli wrote: NXZ needs to watch some WoL vods
Or learn to not morph broodlords where they'll be insta-killed
Uh, hiding in a corner of his 3rd base guarded by his entire army is a pretty good spot
I wonder when zergs forgot that they need massive spine forests to survive 3 base timings if they're teching to greater spire
Roughly when SH got changed. No point in having spine/spore walls anymore
Of course there is. You survive three base timings and actually get to BL/infestor.
if you'd still have to do it, which I assume you do, it's not the best idea to play this style
It's just the exact WoL roach/ling -> BL/infestor style, which is just a lot weaker in HotS. You're supposed to make spines while teching to hive/greater spire or you die to this sort of attack. It's been that way ever since. Zergs somehow seem to have forgotten that though.
On May 25 2015 05:33 Elentos wrote: I remember the old days where people would switch into 40 mutas vP in the late game. Nowadays you never even see that many mutas in one game.
stalker good unit
I mean... soO went mutas almost every game in the GSL finals vs Zest and Zest had blink stalkers and phoenixes in a lot of those games. So clearly, you all are doing it wrong because a GSL finalist knows better than anyone else, right?
That game on Yeonsu is one of the greatest derp moments in human history.
Blink stalkers? 2 stargate phoenixes with range? MOAR MUTAS!
On May 25 2015 05:29 DarkLordOlli wrote: NXZ needs to watch some WoL vods
Or learn to not morph broodlords where they'll be insta-killed
Uh, hiding in a corner of his 3rd base guarded by his entire army is a pretty good spot
I wonder when zergs forgot that they need massive spine forests to survive 3 base timings if they're teching to greater spire
Roughly when SH got changed. No point in having spine/spore walls anymore
Of course there is. You survive three base timings and actually get to BL/infestor.
if you'd still have to do it, which I assume you do, it's not the best idea to play this style
It's just the exact WoL roach/ling -> BL/infestor style, which is just a lot weaker in HotS. You're supposed to make spines while teching to hive/greater spire or you die to this sort of attack. It's been that way ever since. Zergs somehow seem to have forgotten that though.
On May 25 2015 05:33 Elentos wrote: I remember the old days where people would switch into 40 mutas vP in the late game. Nowadays you never even see that many mutas in one game.
stalker good unit
I mean... soO went mutas almost every game in the GSL finals vs Zest and Zest had blink stalkers and phoenixes in a lot of those games. So clearly, you all are doing it wrong because a GSL finalist knows better than anyone else, right?
soO also never could play ZvP
soO was amazing vs protoss when he was at his best. He beat basically every protoss except Zest, and even went head to head with him.
On May 25 2015 05:29 DarkLordOlli wrote: NXZ needs to watch some WoL vods
Or learn to not morph broodlords where they'll be insta-killed
Uh, hiding in a corner of his 3rd base guarded by his entire army is a pretty good spot
I wonder when zergs forgot that they need massive spine forests to survive 3 base timings if they're teching to greater spire
Roughly when SH got changed. No point in having spine/spore walls anymore
Of course there is. You survive three base timings and actually get to BL/infestor.
if you'd still have to do it, which I assume you do, it's not the best idea to play this style
It's just the exact WoL roach/ling -> BL/infestor style, which is just a lot weaker in HotS. You're supposed to make spines while teching to hive/greater spire or you die to this sort of attack. It's been that way ever since. Zergs somehow seem to have forgotten that though.
you have to play a lot more riskier now
Agree, Zergs has to make a play, cannot let Protoss tech freely.
On May 25 2015 05:33 Elentos wrote: I remember the old days where people would switch into 40 mutas vP in the late game. Nowadays you never even see that many mutas in one game.
stalker good unit
I mean... soO went mutas almost every game in the GSL finals vs Zest and Zest had blink stalkers and phoenixes in a lot of those games. So clearly, you all are doing it wrong because a GSL finalist knows better than anyone else, right?
soO also never could play ZvP
soO was amazing vs protoss when he was at his best. He beat basically every protoss except Zest, and even went head to head with him.
Yeah this. soO beat everybody in 2014 outside of the final's of tournaments and Zest
He was a pretty godly player, like we've rarely ever seen
On May 25 2015 05:29 DarkLordOlli wrote: NXZ needs to watch some WoL vods
Or learn to not morph broodlords where they'll be insta-killed
Uh, hiding in a corner of his 3rd base guarded by his entire army is a pretty good spot
I wonder when zergs forgot that they need massive spine forests to survive 3 base timings if they're teching to greater spire
Roughly when SH got changed. No point in having spine/spore walls anymore
Of course there is. You survive three base timings and actually get to BL/infestor.
if you'd still have to do it, which I assume you do, it's not the best idea to play this style
It's just the exact WoL roach/ling -> BL/infestor style, which is just a lot weaker in HotS. You're supposed to make spines while teching to hive/greater spire or you die to this sort of attack. It's been that way ever since. Zergs somehow seem to have forgotten that though.
you have to play a lot more riskier now
I don't see the point of leaving yourself open if you're gonna play a turtley style anyway. Just doesn't make sense.
If you don't wanna make spines with roach/hydra, I get that. But with a build that rushes tech this hard with no real army in the meantime? You roll over and die if you don't have adequate defense (spines).
On May 25 2015 05:29 DarkLordOlli wrote: NXZ needs to watch some WoL vods
Or learn to not morph broodlords where they'll be insta-killed
Uh, hiding in a corner of his 3rd base guarded by his entire army is a pretty good spot
I wonder when zergs forgot that they need massive spine forests to survive 3 base timings if they're teching to greater spire
Roughly when SH got changed. No point in having spine/spore walls anymore
Of course there is. You survive three base timings and actually get to BL/infestor.
if you'd still have to do it, which I assume you do, it's not the best idea to play this style
It's just the exact WoL roach/ling -> BL/infestor style, which is just a lot weaker in HotS. You're supposed to make spines while teching to hive/greater spire or you die to this sort of attack. It's been that way ever since. Zergs somehow seem to have forgotten that though.
you have to play a lot more riskier now
I don't see the point of leaving yourself open if you're gonna play a turtley style anyway. Just doesn't make sense.
If you don't wanna make spines with roach/hydra, I get that. But with a build that rushes tech this hard with no real army in the meantime? You roll over and die if you don't have adequate defense (spines).
it's not WoL anymore, you shouldn't be able to just win games like that, so you have to risk a lot to get a decent army instead of playing safe, knowing you'll probably win in the end
On May 25 2015 05:30 chipmonklord17 wrote: [quote]
Or learn to not morph broodlords where they'll be insta-killed
Uh, hiding in a corner of his 3rd base guarded by his entire army is a pretty good spot
I wonder when zergs forgot that they need massive spine forests to survive 3 base timings if they're teching to greater spire
Roughly when SH got changed. No point in having spine/spore walls anymore
Of course there is. You survive three base timings and actually get to BL/infestor.
if you'd still have to do it, which I assume you do, it's not the best idea to play this style
It's just the exact WoL roach/ling -> BL/infestor style, which is just a lot weaker in HotS. You're supposed to make spines while teching to hive/greater spire or you die to this sort of attack. It's been that way ever since. Zergs somehow seem to have forgotten that though.
you have to play a lot more riskier now
I don't see the point of leaving yourself open if you're gonna play a turtley style anyway. Just doesn't make sense.
If you don't wanna make spines with roach/hydra, I get that. But with a build that rushes tech this hard with no real army in the meantime? You roll over and die if you don't have adequate defense (spines).
it's not WoL anymore, you shouldn't be able to just win games like that, so you have to risk a lot to get a decent army instead of playing safe, knowing you'll probably win in the end
I completely disagree, you can't just expect your opponent to miss out on such a gigantic opportunity to straight up kill you. Especially when protoss players have been hitting 3 base timings for the last 4 years. It's not the best style anymore, I agree, but if you're gonna do it then at least do it right.
On May 25 2015 05:33 Elentos wrote: I remember the old days where people would switch into 40 mutas vP in the late game. Nowadays you never even see that many mutas in one game.
stalker good unit
I mean... soO went mutas almost every game in the GSL finals vs Zest and Zest had blink stalkers and phoenixes in a lot of those games. So clearly, you all are doing it wrong because a GSL finalist knows better than anyone else, right?
soO also never could play ZvP
As opposed to the many zvp gods that came up in 2014 :D He was solid at it. With good preparation he was very good at it.
On May 25 2015 05:33 Elentos wrote: I remember the old days where people would switch into 40 mutas vP in the late game. Nowadays you never even see that many mutas in one game.
stalker good unit
I mean... soO went mutas almost every game in the GSL finals vs Zest and Zest had blink stalkers and phoenixes in a lot of those games. So clearly, you all are doing it wrong because a GSL finalist knows better than anyone else, right?
soO also never could play ZvP
As opposed to the many zvp gods that came up in 2014 :D He was solid at it. With good preparation he was very good at it.
I still have nightmares about his muta/corruptor games vs Parting
On May 25 2015 05:30 RPR_Tempest wrote: [quote] Uh, hiding in a corner of his 3rd base guarded by his entire army is a pretty good spot
I wonder when zergs forgot that they need massive spine forests to survive 3 base timings if they're teching to greater spire
Roughly when SH got changed. No point in having spine/spore walls anymore
Of course there is. You survive three base timings and actually get to BL/infestor.
if you'd still have to do it, which I assume you do, it's not the best idea to play this style
It's just the exact WoL roach/ling -> BL/infestor style, which is just a lot weaker in HotS. You're supposed to make spines while teching to hive/greater spire or you die to this sort of attack. It's been that way ever since. Zergs somehow seem to have forgotten that though.
you have to play a lot more riskier now
I don't see the point of leaving yourself open if you're gonna play a turtley style anyway. Just doesn't make sense.
If you don't wanna make spines with roach/hydra, I get that. But with a build that rushes tech this hard with no real army in the meantime? You roll over and die if you don't have adequate defense (spines).
it's not WoL anymore, you shouldn't be able to just win games like that, so you have to risk a lot to get a decent army instead of playing safe, knowing you'll probably win in the end
I completely disagree, you can't just expect your opponent to miss out on such a gigantic opportunity to straight up kill you. Especially when protoss players have been hitting 3 base timings for the last 4 years. It's not the best style anymore, I agree, but if you're gonna do it then at least do it right.
Yeah. no surprise PartinG/herO have been talking about the faster templar transition (and completely cutting out Colossus from the macro game)
On May 25 2015 05:33 Elentos wrote: I remember the old days where people would switch into 40 mutas vP in the late game. Nowadays you never even see that many mutas in one game.
stalker good unit
I mean... soO went mutas almost every game in the GSL finals vs Zest and Zest had blink stalkers and phoenixes in a lot of those games. So clearly, you all are doing it wrong because a GSL finalist knows better than anyone else, right?
soO also never could play ZvP
As opposed to the many zvp gods that came up in 2014 :D He was solid at it. With good preparation he was very good at it.
I still have nightmares about his muta/corruptor games vs Parting
I liked the random proxy hatch on Merry Go Round and the 9-pools. And the last game was one of the best this year easy.
Yeah it was really fun, just not as many of the epic macro game like the first series. I guess I'm spoiled lol
Even the first didn't really have many epic macro games. It was: Life dies to pressure. Life dies to pressure. Life kills mech player. Life kills greedy Terran with banelings. Life kills greedy Terran with banelings. Dream has an absurd and completely ridiculous hold that will be forever remembered. Decent macro game.
I think Maru didn't play that too well. Too much respect. Didn't go for his signature colossus snipes enough even when the opportunities were there. And that base trade attempt on Vaani was a terrible decision. Also he didn't adjust well enough to herO going DTs in every game.
On May 25 2015 05:30 RPR_Tempest wrote: [quote] Uh, hiding in a corner of his 3rd base guarded by his entire army is a pretty good spot
I wonder when zergs forgot that they need massive spine forests to survive 3 base timings if they're teching to greater spire
Roughly when SH got changed. No point in having spine/spore walls anymore
Of course there is. You survive three base timings and actually get to BL/infestor.
if you'd still have to do it, which I assume you do, it's not the best idea to play this style
It's just the exact WoL roach/ling -> BL/infestor style, which is just a lot weaker in HotS. You're supposed to make spines while teching to hive/greater spire or you die to this sort of attack. It's been that way ever since. Zergs somehow seem to have forgotten that though.
you have to play a lot more riskier now
I don't see the point of leaving yourself open if you're gonna play a turtley style anyway. Just doesn't make sense.
If you don't wanna make spines with roach/hydra, I get that. But with a build that rushes tech this hard with no real army in the meantime? You roll over and die if you don't have adequate defense (spines).
it's not WoL anymore, you shouldn't be able to just win games like that, so you have to risk a lot to get a decent army instead of playing safe, knowing you'll probably win in the end
I completely disagree, you can't just expect your opponent to miss out on such a gigantic opportunity to straight up kill you. Especially when protoss players have been hitting 3 base timings for the last 4 years. It's not the best style anymore, I agree, but if you're gonna do it then at least do it right.
There really isn't composition to triumph over colossi and high templar. I think zergs cannot let protoss to tech up so freely.
On May 25 2015 05:33 Elentos wrote: I remember the old days where people would switch into 40 mutas vP in the late game. Nowadays you never even see that many mutas in one game.
stalker good unit
I mean... soO went mutas almost every game in the GSL finals vs Zest and Zest had blink stalkers and phoenixes in a lot of those games. So clearly, you all are doing it wrong because a GSL finalist knows better than anyone else, right?
soO also never could play ZvP
As opposed to the many zvp gods that came up in 2014 :D He was solid at it. With good preparation he was very good at it.
I still have nightmares about his muta/corruptor games vs Parting
Rofl those were funny from zerg POV. Parting's thought process - ok soO is very good with mutas so I will go double stargate phoenix before third to make him pick another tech.
soO goes mass muta corruptor and curb stomps parting while looking bored Partings thoughts - . . . . . wat
On May 25 2015 05:33 Elentos wrote: I remember the old days where people would switch into 40 mutas vP in the late game. Nowadays you never even see that many mutas in one game.
stalker good unit
I mean... soO went mutas almost every game in the GSL finals vs Zest and Zest had blink stalkers and phoenixes in a lot of those games. So clearly, you all are doing it wrong because a GSL finalist knows better than anyone else, right?
soO also never could play ZvP
As opposed to the many zvp gods that came up in 2014 :D He was solid at it. With good preparation he was very good at it.
I still have nightmares about his muta/corruptor games vs Parting
I miss muta corruptor being a thing
It being a thing is strongly connected with soO healing enough to go for the finals again.
On May 25 2015 05:33 Elentos wrote: I remember the old days where people would switch into 40 mutas vP in the late game. Nowadays you never even see that many mutas in one game.
stalker good unit
I mean... soO went mutas almost every game in the GSL finals vs Zest and Zest had blink stalkers and phoenixes in a lot of those games. So clearly, you all are doing it wrong because a GSL finalist knows better than anyone else, right?
soO also never could play ZvP
As opposed to the many zvp gods that came up in 2014 :D He was solid at it. With good preparation he was very good at it.
I still have nightmares about his muta/corruptor games vs Parting
Rofl those were funny from zerg POV. Parting's thought process - ok soO is very good with mutas so I will go double stargate phoenix before third to make him pick another tech.
soO goes mass muta corruptor and curb stomps parting while looking bored Partings thoughts - . . . . . wat
On May 25 2015 05:49 Alucen-Will- wrote: I wanna see some OG Bio/tank v Bio/tank in that MMA/Flash series. That would make me happy. veryhappy. happy.
I'm pretty sure there won't be bio/tank positional wars. Because for one, Flash favours mech, which is viable on Echo, and two, because yolodrops are stronk.
I wonder when zergs forgot that they need massive spine forests to survive 3 base timings if they're teching to greater spire
Roughly when SH got changed. No point in having spine/spore walls anymore
Of course there is. You survive three base timings and actually get to BL/infestor.
if you'd still have to do it, which I assume you do, it's not the best idea to play this style
It's just the exact WoL roach/ling -> BL/infestor style, which is just a lot weaker in HotS. You're supposed to make spines while teching to hive/greater spire or you die to this sort of attack. It's been that way ever since. Zergs somehow seem to have forgotten that though.
you have to play a lot more riskier now
I don't see the point of leaving yourself open if you're gonna play a turtley style anyway. Just doesn't make sense.
If you don't wanna make spines with roach/hydra, I get that. But with a build that rushes tech this hard with no real army in the meantime? You roll over and die if you don't have adequate defense (spines).
it's not WoL anymore, you shouldn't be able to just win games like that, so you have to risk a lot to get a decent army instead of playing safe, knowing you'll probably win in the end
I completely disagree, you can't just expect your opponent to miss out on such a gigantic opportunity to straight up kill you. Especially when protoss players have been hitting 3 base timings for the last 4 years. It's not the best style anymore, I agree, but if you're gonna do it then at least do it right.
There really isn't composition to triumph over colossi and high templar. I think zergs cannot let protoss to tech up so freely.
I don't think that composition is an issue for zerg. You can kill colossus/templar armies just fine. It's just the mass blink/sentry/storm/immortal style that's incredibly strong. It's got so much map presence, pressure potential, mobility and fighting power all in one. That and with forcefields, blink, storm and recall you should never trade unfavorably.
On May 25 2015 05:49 Alucen-Will- wrote: I wanna see some OG Bio/tank v Bio/tank in that MMA/Flash series. That would make me happy. veryhappy. happy.
I'm pretty sure there won't be bio/tank positional wars. Because for one, Flash favours mech, which is viable on Echo, and two, because yolodrops are stronk.
yeah likely we'll see bio/tank v mech. I wouldn't be surprised if MMA brought out some tank drops like he did against Curejwa
edit: Still Flash's trademark Hellbat/Mech is pretty mobile fun IMO. It's really fairly similar to bio/tank
On May 25 2015 05:33 chipmonklord17 wrote: [quote]
Roughly when SH got changed. No point in having spine/spore walls anymore
Of course there is. You survive three base timings and actually get to BL/infestor.
if you'd still have to do it, which I assume you do, it's not the best idea to play this style
It's just the exact WoL roach/ling -> BL/infestor style, which is just a lot weaker in HotS. You're supposed to make spines while teching to hive/greater spire or you die to this sort of attack. It's been that way ever since. Zergs somehow seem to have forgotten that though.
you have to play a lot more riskier now
I don't see the point of leaving yourself open if you're gonna play a turtley style anyway. Just doesn't make sense.
If you don't wanna make spines with roach/hydra, I get that. But with a build that rushes tech this hard with no real army in the meantime? You roll over and die if you don't have adequate defense (spines).
it's not WoL anymore, you shouldn't be able to just win games like that, so you have to risk a lot to get a decent army instead of playing safe, knowing you'll probably win in the end
I completely disagree, you can't just expect your opponent to miss out on such a gigantic opportunity to straight up kill you. Especially when protoss players have been hitting 3 base timings for the last 4 years. It's not the best style anymore, I agree, but if you're gonna do it then at least do it right.
There really isn't composition to triumph over colossi and high templar. I think zergs cannot let protoss to tech up so freely.
I don't think that composition is an issue for zerg. You can kill colossus/templar armies just fine. It's just the mass blink/sentry/storm/immortal style that's incredibly strong. It's got so much map presence, pressure potential, mobility and fighting power all in one. That and with forcefields, blink, storm and recall you should never trade unfavorably.
Rough time to be a zerg vs protoss atm.
Meh, you just cheese a lot and do lots of timings, sort of like protoss in 2012.
On May 25 2015 05:49 Alucen-Will- wrote: I wanna see some OG Bio/tank v Bio/tank in that MMA/Flash series. That would make me happy. veryhappy. happy.
I'm pretty sure there won't be bio/tank positional wars. Because for one, Flash favours mech, which is viable on Echo, and two, because yolodrops are stronk.
yeah likely we'll see bio/tank v mech. I wouldn't be surprised if MMA brought out some tank drops like he did against Curejwa
edit: Still Flash's trademark Hellbat/Mech is pretty mobile fun IMO. It's really fairly similar to bio/tank
Cure really doesn't deserve a -jwa if he keeps performing like that.
Mech vs bio is the best TvT anyway. But maybe MMA has another curveball Bomber build and goes mech himself.
On May 25 2015 05:49 Alucen-Will- wrote: I wanna see some OG Bio/tank v Bio/tank in that MMA/Flash series. That would make me happy. veryhappy. happy.
I'm pretty sure there won't be bio/tank positional wars. Because for one, Flash favours mech, which is viable on Echo, and two, because yolodrops are stronk.
yeah likely we'll see bio/tank v mech. I wouldn't be surprised if MMA brought out some tank drops like he did against Curejwa
edit: Still Flash's trademark Hellbat/Mech is pretty mobile fun IMO. It's really fairly similar to bio/tank
Cure really doesn't deserve a -jwa if he keeps performing like that.
Mech vs bio is the best TvT anyway. But maybe MMA has another curveball Bomber build and goes mech himself.
Cure played pretty well in that game IMO.
Still I think Bomber is the Bio/Tank god. I have wet dream's sometimes about s3 2014 TvT bio/tank meta!
On May 25 2015 05:49 Alucen-Will- wrote: I wanna see some OG Bio/tank v Bio/tank in that MMA/Flash series. That would make me happy. veryhappy. happy.
I'm pretty sure there won't be bio/tank positional wars. Because for one, Flash favours mech, which is viable on Echo, and two, because yolodrops are stronk.
yeah likely we'll see bio/tank v mech. I wouldn't be surprised if MMA brought out some tank drops like he did against Curejwa
edit: Still Flash's trademark Hellbat/Mech is pretty mobile fun IMO. It's really fairly similar to bio/tank
Cure really doesn't deserve a -jwa if he keeps performing like that.
Mech vs bio is the best TvT anyway. But maybe MMA has another curveball Bomber build and goes mech himself.
Cure played pretty well in that game IMO.
Still I think Bomber is the Bio/Tank god. I have wet dream's sometimes about s3 2014 TvT bio/tank meta!
Imo he played bad. Much worse than in his game vs Flash the week before, too.
Also I distinctly remember Bomber playing a lot of mech in TvT in late 2014.
On May 25 2015 06:01 RPR_Tempest wrote: I thought that army looked pretty small from Xeno and then the camera cut to dead 4th with the two medivacs T_T
On May 25 2015 06:00 Shellshock wrote: Sounds like PiG would have put up a better fight today. Oh well
He definitely would have, but WCS giving opportunities to someone who has never attended an overseas tournament before is really what it's all about. It's a beautiful thing.
On May 25 2015 05:49 Alucen-Will- wrote: I wanna see some OG Bio/tank v Bio/tank in that MMA/Flash series. That would make me happy. veryhappy. happy.
I'm pretty sure there won't be bio/tank positional wars. Because for one, Flash favours mech, which is viable on Echo, and two, because yolodrops are stronk.
yeah likely we'll see bio/tank v mech. I wouldn't be surprised if MMA brought out some tank drops like he did against Curejwa
edit: Still Flash's trademark Hellbat/Mech is pretty mobile fun IMO. It's really fairly similar to bio/tank
Cure really doesn't deserve a -jwa if he keeps performing like that.
Mech vs bio is the best TvT anyway. But maybe MMA has another curveball Bomber build and goes mech himself.
Cure played pretty well in that game IMO.
Still I think Bomber is the Bio/Tank god. I have wet dream's sometimes about s3 2014 TvT bio/tank meta!
Imo he played bad. Much worse than in his game vs Flash the week before, too.
Also I distinctly remember Bomber playing a lot of mech in TvT in late 2014.
no, almost predominantly bio-tank in late 2014. He won RBBG and WCS with that comp pretty much.
To be honest, I think Cure played better against MMA than he did against Flash. Still it wasn't a giant blowout, just flash/mma playing very well in a matchup they've long been reputed and known for.
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I feel like Ryan almost certainly recognizes the mistakes he made that game. He has that kinda look in his eyes. If it's the look I think it is, Xenocider better watch out in G2
On May 25 2015 05:49 Alucen-Will- wrote: I wanna see some OG Bio/tank v Bio/tank in that MMA/Flash series. That would make me happy. veryhappy. happy.
I'm pretty sure there won't be bio/tank positional wars. Because for one, Flash favours mech, which is viable on Echo, and two, because yolodrops are stronk.
yeah likely we'll see bio/tank v mech. I wouldn't be surprised if MMA brought out some tank drops like he did against Curejwa
edit: Still Flash's trademark Hellbat/Mech is pretty mobile fun IMO. It's really fairly similar to bio/tank
Cure really doesn't deserve a -jwa if he keeps performing like that.
Mech vs bio is the best TvT anyway. But maybe MMA has another curveball Bomber build and goes mech himself.
Cure played pretty well in that game IMO.
Still I think Bomber is the Bio/Tank god. I have wet dream's sometimes about s3 2014 TvT bio/tank meta!
Imo he played bad. Much worse than in his game vs Flash the week before, too.
Also I distinctly remember Bomber playing a lot of mech in TvT in late 2014.
no, almost predominantly bio-tank in late 2014. He won RBBG and WCS with that comp pretty much.
To be honest, I think Cure played better against MMA than he did against Flash. Still it wasn't a giant blowout, just flash/mma playing very well in a matchup they've long been reputed and known for.
Kind of straightforward, In my opinion.
Is one of the games of RBBG I distinctly remembered.
Anyways. Cure got completely rolled because he let that triple drop in his main happen and didn't do a terribly good job of getting rid of it. And then he got caught out on the map by MMA whose economy was left unhindered the entire game, leaving me to wonder what Cure was actually trying to do.
On May 25 2015 05:33 chipmonklord17 wrote: [quote]
Roughly when SH got changed. No point in having spine/spore walls anymore
Of course there is. You survive three base timings and actually get to BL/infestor.
if you'd still have to do it, which I assume you do, it's not the best idea to play this style
It's just the exact WoL roach/ling -> BL/infestor style, which is just a lot weaker in HotS. You're supposed to make spines while teching to hive/greater spire or you die to this sort of attack. It's been that way ever since. Zergs somehow seem to have forgotten that though.
you have to play a lot more riskier now
I don't see the point of leaving yourself open if you're gonna play a turtley style anyway. Just doesn't make sense.
If you don't wanna make spines with roach/hydra, I get that. But with a build that rushes tech this hard with no real army in the meantime? You roll over and die if you don't have adequate defense (spines).
it's not WoL anymore, you shouldn't be able to just win games like that, so you have to risk a lot to get a decent army instead of playing safe, knowing you'll probably win in the end
I completely disagree, you can't just expect your opponent to miss out on such a gigantic opportunity to straight up kill you. Especially when protoss players have been hitting 3 base timings for the last 4 years. It's not the best style anymore, I agree, but if you're gonna do it then at least do it right.
There really isn't composition to triumph over colossi and high templar. I think zergs cannot let protoss to tech up so freely.
I don't think that composition is an issue for zerg. You can kill colossus/templar armies just fine. It's just the mass blink/sentry/storm/immortal style that's incredibly strong. It's got so much map presence, pressure potential, mobility and fighting power all in one. That and with forcefields, blink, storm and recall you should never trade unfavorably.
Rough time to be a zerg vs protoss atm.
Well, I agree that blink/sentry/storm/immortal style is incredibly strong, which tend to make zergs undertech, and that, consequently, makes high templars very strong, since zerg has inferior composition that was used to defend earlier pressures.
On May 25 2015 05:49 Alucen-Will- wrote: I wanna see some OG Bio/tank v Bio/tank in that MMA/Flash series. That would make me happy. veryhappy. happy.
I'm pretty sure there won't be bio/tank positional wars. Because for one, Flash favours mech, which is viable on Echo, and two, because yolodrops are stronk.
yeah likely we'll see bio/tank v mech. I wouldn't be surprised if MMA brought out some tank drops like he did against Curejwa
edit: Still Flash's trademark Hellbat/Mech is pretty mobile fun IMO. It's really fairly similar to bio/tank
Cure really doesn't deserve a -jwa if he keeps performing like that.
Mech vs bio is the best TvT anyway. But maybe MMA has another curveball Bomber build and goes mech himself.
Cure played pretty well in that game IMO.
Still I think Bomber is the Bio/Tank god. I have wet dream's sometimes about s3 2014 TvT bio/tank meta!
Imo he played bad. Much worse than in his game vs Flash the week before, too.
Also I distinctly remember Bomber playing a lot of mech in TvT in late 2014.
no, almost predominantly bio-tank in late 2014. He won RBBG and WCS with that comp pretty much.
To be honest, I think Cure played better against MMA than he did against Flash. Still it wasn't a giant blowout, just flash/mma playing very well in a matchup they've long been reputed and known for.
Anyways. Cure got completely rolled because he let that triple drop in his main happen and didn't do a terribly good job of getting rid of it. And then he got caught out on the map by MMA whose economy was left unhindered the entire game, leaving me to wonder what Cure was actually trying to do.
It's true that Bomber absolutely crushed Cure in this series (he is another class of TvT player)
I still think Cure is a very solid TvT player, as evidenced by his aliguilac winrates. He also played a 7 games series against INnoVation in the gsl semifinals and made his run at a time where TvT was a very common matchup due to the favorable map pool.
I've been working on some terran metagame/build stuff in which Cure has been one of the more revolutionary players, even in TvT a fairly static matchup
On May 25 2015 06:15 stuchiu wrote: NXZed looks like a mess
Says a lot about PIG that he would lose to this caliber of a player
It's ignorant statements like this that make me angry, PiG made Ro16 last season and beat two top European players. NXZ flat out outplayed PiG in their series. His preparation was far superior and it paid off.
On May 25 2015 06:17 xtorn wrote: with all due respect, what league is this guy, he looks so unprepared
On May 25 2015 06:15 stuchiu wrote: NXZed looks like a mess
Says a lot about PIG that he would lose to this caliber of a player
It's ignorant statements like this that make me angry, PiG made Ro16 last season and beat two top European players. NXZ flat out outplayed PiG in their series. His preparation was far superior and it paid off.
On May 25 2015 06:15 Elentos wrote: Drone splits need work.
I remember when it used to be more common to not bother splitting because you could risk drone AI actually helping the hellions
that's what I do I just hope
Me too. I don't trust my drones or my mouse accuracy
I trust in my opponents being bad
works thus far
That too, its more worth my APM to counterattack and hope for the best than pay attention. I've won quite a few games because I said fuck defending and they just couldn't stop me
On May 25 2015 06:15 stuchiu wrote: NXZed looks like a mess
Says a lot about PIG that he would lose to this caliber of a player
It's ignorant statements like this that make me angry, PiG made Ro16 last season and beat two top European players. NXZ flat out outplayed PiG in their series. His preparation was far superior and it paid off.
On May 25 2015 06:17 xtorn wrote: with all due respect, what league is this guy, he looks so unprepared
KR GM
KR gm doesn't mean a lot if you can't specify the rank.
The guy asked for league, not rank. And I think NXZ is chilling with the rest of the foreigners at 150ish-175ish. There are ofc some special few foreigners who do better than that.
On May 25 2015 06:15 stuchiu wrote: NXZed looks like a mess
Says a lot about PIG that he would lose to this caliber of a player
It's ignorant statements like this that make me angry, PiG made Ro16 last season and beat two top European players. NXZ flat out outplayed PiG in their series. His preparation was far superior and it paid off.
On May 25 2015 06:17 xtorn wrote: with all due respect, what league is this guy, he looks so unprepared
KR GM
KR gm doesn't mean a lot if you can't specify the rank.
The guy asked for league, not rank. And I think NXZ is chilling with the rest of the foreigners at 150ish-175ish. There are ofc some special few foreigners who do better than that.
looks like more of a nerves case than anything else tbh, sad for him.
On May 25 2015 06:15 stuchiu wrote: NXZed looks like a mess
Says a lot about PIG that he would lose to this caliber of a player
It's ignorant statements like this that make me angry, PiG made Ro16 last season and beat two top European players. NXZ flat out outplayed PiG in their series. His preparation was far superior and it paid off.
On May 25 2015 06:15 stuchiu wrote: NXZed looks like a mess
Says a lot about PIG that he would lose to this caliber of a player
PiG mentioned on I think The Late Game that he's been learning an entirely new hotkey layout right now so that's why he's been playing like crap lately
On May 25 2015 06:15 stuchiu wrote: NXZed looks like a mess
Says a lot about PIG that he would lose to this caliber of a player
It doesnt say anything about PiG?
PiG lost 3-2 to NXZ in the challenger. I'm implying PiG's top 16 was a bit of fluke.
Did you miss my explanation? I'll give it again. NXZ's preparation was superior, and there was literally nothing flukey about PiG's run. He flat out defeated TargA and Happy, and had a very close 3 game series with Ro4 finisher ShoWTimE. Stop being ignorant and spiteful.
On May 25 2015 06:15 stuchiu wrote: NXZed looks like a mess
Says a lot about PIG that he would lose to this caliber of a player
It doesnt say anything about PiG?
PiG lost 3-2 to NXZ in the challenger. I'm implying PiG's top 16 was a bit of fluke.
Did you miss my explanation? I'll give it again. NXZ's preparation was superior, and there was literally nothing flukey about PiG's run. He flat out defeated TargA and Happy, and had a very close 3 game series with Ro4 finisher ShoWTimE. Stop being ignorant and spiteful.
he roach dropped Happy, no-one should ever call him a fluke
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★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
25%
★★★ - Good game (0)
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On May 25 2015 06:15 stuchiu wrote: NXZed looks like a mess
Says a lot about PIG that he would lose to this caliber of a player
It doesnt say anything about PiG?
PiG lost 3-2 to NXZ in the challenger. I'm implying PiG's top 16 was a bit of fluke.
Did you miss my explanation? I'll give it again. NXZ's preparation was superior, and there was literally nothing flukey about PiG's run. He flat out defeated TargA and Happy, and had a very close 3 game series with Ro4 finisher ShoWTimE. Stop being ignorant and spiteful.
I'm not trying to be rude to be honest. It's not neccesary to take every opinion so personally.
I like PiG personally, he's a smart, friendly guy who has done a lot great content for Zerg players. He also prepared very well for series and deserved to make it through. That also does not imply I think he's a good player, which he really is not.
On May 25 2015 06:15 stuchiu wrote: NXZed looks like a mess
Says a lot about PIG that he would lose to this caliber of a player
It doesnt say anything about PiG?
PiG lost 3-2 to NXZ in the challenger. I'm implying PiG's top 16 was a bit of fluke.
Did you miss my explanation? I'll give it again. NXZ's preparation was superior, and there was literally nothing flukey about PiG's run. He flat out defeated TargA and Happy, and had a very close 3 game series with Ro4 finisher ShoWTimE. Stop being ignorant and spiteful.
He went 2-3 verse happy and got out because of how double elimination works. I wouldn't call that "flat out". Pig had a really good day but I don't think many people would ever expect him to be able to repeat that, hence it being a fluke.
On May 25 2015 06:15 stuchiu wrote: NXZed looks like a mess
Says a lot about PIG that he would lose to this caliber of a player
It doesnt say anything about PiG?
PiG lost 3-2 to NXZ in the challenger. I'm implying PiG's top 16 was a bit of fluke.
Did you miss my explanation? I'll give it again. NXZ's preparation was superior, and there was literally nothing flukey about PiG's run. He flat out defeated TargA and Happy, and had a very close 3 game series with Ro4 finisher ShoWTimE. Stop being ignorant and spiteful.
What do PiG, Happy and TargA have in common? They're all not in Premier league season 2! What does that tell us? Form is temporary, class is permanent.
On May 25 2015 06:15 stuchiu wrote: NXZed looks like a mess
Says a lot about PIG that he would lose to this caliber of a player
It doesnt say anything about PiG?
PiG lost 3-2 to NXZ in the challenger. I'm implying PiG's top 16 was a bit of fluke.
Did you miss my explanation? I'll give it again. NXZ's preparation was superior, and there was literally nothing flukey about PiG's run. He flat out defeated TargA and Happy, and had a very close 3 game series with Ro4 finisher ShoWTimE. Stop being ignorant and spiteful.
What do PiG, Happy and TargA have in common? They're all not in Premier league season 2! What does that tell us? Form is temporary, class is permanent.
We're really grasping at straws when we're arguing about PiG making into the top 16 of WCS Premier, to be honest.
Ok here's serious advice. If you want to do good, you have to stand out. Write extremely disturbing letters, such as those coming from a serial killer, Zodiac killer style and you can't do wrong. Or maybe a letter formulating terrorist demands?
Ok here's serious advice. If you want to do good, you have to stand out. Write extremely disturbing letters, such as those coming from a serial killer, Zodiac killer style and you can't do wrong. Or maybe a letter formulating terrorist demands?
"I want you to give me 5 replays of you roach dropping on ladder or I kill president's daughter"
Ok here's serious advice. If you want to do good, you have to stand out. Write extremely disturbing letters, such as those coming from a serial killer, Zodiac killer style and you can't do wrong. Or maybe a letter formulating terrorist demands?
"I want you to give me 5 replays of you roach dropping on ladder or I kill president's daughter"
On May 25 2015 06:24 TRaFFiC wrote: who the fuck is banning everyone in chat? Some Nazi mod gone rogue. <message deleted>
Probably that Looknohands guy.
Never had the pleasure to experience this dood.
All I typed is "regame or RIOT"
Omg capz ban him! At a certain point there were like 5 ppl banned per chat cycle. lol
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On May 25 2015 06:24 TRaFFiC wrote: who the fuck is banning everyone in chat? Some Nazi mod gone rogue. <message deleted>
Probably that Looknohands guy.
Never had the pleasure to experience this dood.
All I typed is "regame or RIOT"
Omg capz ban him! At a certain point there were like 5 ppl banned per chat cycle. lol
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On May 25 2015 06:21 Alchemik wrote: btw bros, I'm supposed to write six letters for school
give me like two topics pls ;;
OK here is a serious topic: Identify the industrial sectors where Poland has a comparative advantage vis-a-vis the eastern European Nations and describe how Poland could capitalize on its advantage in the coming 10 years for job creation (particularly for the well educated youth) and elaborate on the potential for improved Polish export performance (services and/or goods).
On May 25 2015 06:21 Alchemik wrote: btw bros, I'm supposed to write six letters for school
give me like two topics pls ;;
OK here is a serious topic: Identify the industrial sectors where Poland has a comparative advantage vis-a-vis the eastern European Nations and describe how Poland could capitalize on its advantage in the coming 10 years for job creation (particularly for the well educated youth) and elaborate on the potential for improved Polish export performance (services and/or goods).
that's a lot of things for 120-150 words letters :D
but can do, thanks. I'm sure the teacher will be impressed
On May 25 2015 06:21 Alchemik wrote: btw bros, I'm supposed to write six letters for school
give me like two topics pls ;;
OK here is a serious topic: Identify the industrial sectors where Poland has a comparative advantage vis-a-vis the eastern European Nations and describe how Poland could capitalize on its advantage in the coming 10 years for job creation (particularly for the well educated youth) and elaborate on the potential for improved Polish export performance (services and/or goods).
The letters you write are obviously a cut above mine.
On May 25 2015 06:21 Alchemik wrote: btw bros, I'm supposed to write six letters for school
give me like two topics pls ;;
OK here is a serious topic: Identify the industrial sectors where Poland has a comparative advantage vis-a-vis the eastern European Nations and describe how Poland could capitalize on its advantage in the coming 10 years for job creation (particularly for the well educated youth) and elaborate on the potential for improved Polish export performance (services and/or goods).
that's a lot of things for 120-150 words letters :D
but can do, thanks. I'm sure the teacher will be impressed
On May 25 2015 06:21 Alchemik wrote: btw bros, I'm supposed to write six letters for school
give me like two topics pls ;;
OK here is a serious topic: Identify the industrial sectors where Poland has a comparative advantage vis-a-vis the eastern European Nations and describe how Poland could capitalize on its advantage in the coming 10 years for job creation (particularly for the well educated youth) and elaborate on the potential for improved Polish export performance (services and/or goods).
that's a lot of things for 120-150 words letters :D
but can do, thanks. I'm sure the teacher will be impressed
On May 25 2015 06:21 Alchemik wrote: btw bros, I'm supposed to write six letters for school
give me like two topics pls ;;
OK here is a serious topic: Identify the industrial sectors where Poland has a comparative advantage vis-a-vis the eastern European Nations and describe how Poland could capitalize on its advantage in the coming 10 years for job creation (particularly for the well educated youth) and elaborate on the potential for improved Polish export performance (services and/or goods).
that's a lot of things for 120-150 words letters :D
but can do, thanks. I'm sure the teacher will be impressed
On May 25 2015 06:35 Alucen-Will- wrote: On a random note. I think Kane is an absolutely fantastic caster.
right aboot time people realize that
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
On May 25 2015 06:21 Alchemik wrote: btw bros, I'm supposed to write six letters for school
give me like two topics pls ;;
OK here is a serious topic: Identify the industrial sectors where Poland has a comparative advantage vis-a-vis the eastern European Nations and describe how Poland could capitalize on its advantage in the coming 10 years for job creation (particularly for the well educated youth) and elaborate on the potential for improved Polish export performance (services and/or goods).
that's a lot of things for 120-150 words letters :D
but can do, thanks. I'm sure the teacher will be impressed
On May 25 2015 06:21 Alchemik wrote: btw bros, I'm supposed to write six letters for school
give me like two topics pls ;;
OK here is a serious topic: Identify the industrial sectors where Poland has a comparative advantage vis-a-vis the eastern European Nations and describe how Poland could capitalize on its advantage in the coming 10 years for job creation (particularly for the well educated youth) and elaborate on the potential for improved Polish export performance (services and/or goods).
that's a lot of things for 120-150 words letters :D
but can do, thanks. I'm sure the teacher will be impressed
On May 25 2015 06:35 Alucen-Will- wrote: On a random note. I think Kane is an absolutely fantastic caster.
right aboot time people realize that
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
On May 25 2015 06:35 Alucen-Will- wrote: On a random note. I think Kane is an absolutely fantastic caster.
right aboot time people realize that
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
moonglade is the type of guy who would be typcast in to a porn set on a Quentin Tarantino film
On May 25 2015 06:35 Alucen-Will- wrote: On a random note. I think Kane is an absolutely fantastic caster.
right aboot time people realize that
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the sound of his voice per se... But there's something about it that I just find weird, which I can't even put into words properly.
On May 25 2015 06:35 Alucen-Will- wrote: On a random note. I think Kane is an absolutely fantastic caster.
right aboot time people realize that
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the sound of his voice per se... But there's something about it that I just find weird, which I can't even put into words properly.
On May 25 2015 06:35 Alucen-Will- wrote: On a random note. I think Kane is an absolutely fantastic caster.
right aboot time people realize that
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
On May 25 2015 06:35 Alucen-Will- wrote: On a random note. I think Kane is an absolutely fantastic caster.
right aboot time people realize that
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the sound of his voice per se... But there's something about it that I just find weird, which I can't even put into words properly.
Its okay to say its the accent
It's not the accent, I don't care if he says YoDa or YoDer, that's just how the accent works. Meh.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
40%
★★★ - Good game (1)
20%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
20%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Winners' Match Game 1
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On May 25 2015 06:35 Alucen-Will- wrote: On a random note. I think Kane is an absolutely fantastic caster.
right aboot time people realize that
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
First off calm down. He's a good caster and his knowledge is fantastic. But you can't possibly tell me there's no difference between say, listening to Catspajamas and listening to Kane. His voice isn't as pleasant to listen to. Its not his fault nor a reason to not hire him. Its just an opinion
On May 25 2015 06:35 Alucen-Will- wrote: On a random note. I think Kane is an absolutely fantastic caster.
right aboot time people realize that
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
Nobody's asking for them to be fired. But I don't see anything wrong with expressing displeasure/discomfort with the voice of someone whose job is to talk.
On May 25 2015 06:35 Alucen-Will- wrote: On a random note. I think Kane is an absolutely fantastic caster.
right aboot time people realize that
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
Having a good voice is almost the n°1 thing to be a caster lol
On May 25 2015 06:35 Alucen-Will- wrote: On a random note. I think Kane is an absolutely fantastic caster.
right aboot time people realize that
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
Nobody's asking for them to be fired. But I don't see anything wrong with expressing displeasure/discomfort with the voice of someone whose job is to talk.
On May 25 2015 06:35 Alucen-Will- wrote: On a random note. I think Kane is an absolutely fantastic caster.
right aboot time people realize that
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
First off calm down. He's a good caster and his knowledge is fantastic. But you can't possibly tell me there's no difference between say, listening to Catspajamas and listening to Kane. His voice isn't as pleasant to listen to. Its not his fault nor a reason to not hire him. Its just an opinion
kk calm. I'll take Kane over CatsPajamas anyday though, though his voice is "nice."
On May 25 2015 06:46 stuchiu wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAH I USE THIS BUILD TOO IA HAHAHAHAHAHAH
b-but 10pool?
I actually have 9 different PvZ builds I use.
go
This build, 14/14 bane bust hatch first into fast 7 roach rush 10 pool triple hatch before pool proxy hatch their nat proxy hatch their main proxy hatch their rocks fast Gold
On May 25 2015 06:36 Alchemik wrote: [quote] right aboot time people realize that
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
First off calm down. He's a good caster and his knowledge is fantastic. But you can't possibly tell me there's no difference between say, listening to Catspajamas and listening to Kane. His voice isn't as pleasant to listen to. Its not his fault nor a reason to not hire him. Its just an opinion
kk calm. I'll take Kane over CatsPajamas anyday though, though his voice is "nice."
At this point I probably would too but the point was there moreso to give a good comparison
On May 25 2015 06:46 stuchiu wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAH I USE THIS BUILD TOO IA HAHAHAHAHAHAH
b-but 10pool?
I actually have 9 different PvZ builds I use.
go
This build, 14/14 bane bust hatch first into fast 7 roach rush 10 pool triple hatch before pool proxy hatch their nat proxy hatch their main proxy hatch their rocks fast Gold
On May 25 2015 06:46 stuchiu wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAH I USE THIS BUILD TOO IA HAHAHAHAHAHAH
b-but 10pool?
I actually have 9 different PvZ builds I use.
go
This build, 14/14 bane bust hatch first into fast 7 roach rush 10 pool triple hatch before pool proxy hatch their nat proxy hatch their main proxy hatch their rocks fast Gold
you sound like a macro player
TRUE is more fun lets be honest. 25 minute ling/baneling all in. FIGHT!
On May 25 2015 06:35 Alucen-Will- wrote: On a random note. I think Kane is an absolutely fantastic caster.
right aboot time people realize that
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
Having a good voice is almost the n°1 thing to be a caster lol
100% disagree, though I guess the majority of the player base are total scrubs. You would think even silver and gold players could appreciate someone who actually knows the game. Who cares what they look or sound like? Have we ever had a caster that sounded so bad?
People just need to get out of their shell and experience accents from different parts of the world.
On May 25 2015 06:36 Alchemik wrote: [quote] right aboot time people realize that
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
Nobody's asking for them to be fired. But I don't see anything wrong with expressing displeasure/discomfort with the voice of someone whose job is to talk.
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Naaaaaaaah. If they got rid of Moonglade the SSL and SPL casts would drop in quality too much.
On May 25 2015 06:46 stuchiu wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAH I USE THIS BUILD TOO IA HAHAHAHAHAHAH
b-but 10pool?
I actually have 9 different PvZ builds I use.
go
This build, 14/14 bane bust hatch first into fast 7 roach rush 10 pool triple hatch before pool proxy hatch their nat proxy hatch their main proxy hatch their rocks fast Gold
you sound like a macro player
I have this great build where if the Protoss scouts, I can make them make 3 extra cannons while I drone to 70.
On May 25 2015 06:53 sAsImre wrote: i don't understand Z who don't take a gold on Vaani. They're just handicaping themselves
If you get scouted the opponent can just go for aggressive 2 base builds and they become harder to hold. I personally take the gold on the protoss' side of the map if I'm going to. Because they're much less likely to scout it
On May 25 2015 06:36 Alchemik wrote: [quote] right aboot time people realize that
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
Having a good voice is almost the n°1 thing to be a caster lol
100% disagree, though I guess the majority of the player base are total scrubs. You would think even silver and gold players could appreciate someone who actually knows the game. Who cares what they look or sound like? Have we ever had a caster that sounded so bad?
People just need to get out of their shell and experience accents from different parts of the world.
lol. I'm casting and I can tell you that it's the most important thing. People listening for something else than being entertained are such a minority (that you'll find on TL yeah) that you can say bullshit most of the time and get away with it. Just like in mainstreamed TV sports.
On May 25 2015 06:46 stuchiu wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAH I USE THIS BUILD TOO IA HAHAHAHAHAHAH
b-but 10pool?
I actually have 9 different PvZ builds I use.
go
This build, 14/14 bane bust hatch first into fast 7 roach rush 10 pool triple hatch before pool proxy hatch their nat proxy hatch their main proxy hatch their rocks fast Gold
you sound like a macro player
I have this great build where if the Protoss scouts, I can make them make 3 extra cannons while I drone to 70.
the only ones I can think of are fake 14/14 or 2 base roach
On May 25 2015 06:46 stuchiu wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAH I USE THIS BUILD TOO IA HAHAHAHAHAHAH
b-but 10pool?
I actually have 9 different PvZ builds I use.
go
This build, 14/14 bane bust hatch first into fast 7 roach rush 10 pool triple hatch before pool proxy hatch their nat proxy hatch their main proxy hatch their rocks fast Gold
you sound like a macro player
I have this great build where if the Protoss scouts, I can make them make 3 extra cannons while I drone to 70.
the only ones I can think of are fake 14/14 or 2 base roach
I hatch first, hide a drone near my third and before the probe goes up into my main I pull every drone and kill the probe.
On May 25 2015 06:46 stuchiu wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAH I USE THIS BUILD TOO IA HAHAHAHAHAHAH
b-but 10pool?
I actually have 9 different PvZ builds I use.
go
This build, 14/14 bane bust hatch first into fast 7 roach rush 10 pool triple hatch before pool proxy hatch their nat proxy hatch their main proxy hatch their rocks fast Gold
you sound like a macro player
I have this great build where if the Protoss scouts, I can make them make 3 extra cannons while I drone to 70.
the only ones I can think of are fake 14/14 or 2 base roach
I hatch first, hide a drone near my third and before the probe goes up into my main I pull every drone and kill the probe.
some of his casting on the ZvZ series yesterday was the best casting I have heard in a long time in either english/korean.
I hope they hire him full time
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
Having a good voice is almost the n°1 thing to be a caster lol
100% disagree, though I guess the majority of the player base are total scrubs. You would think even silver and gold players could appreciate someone who actually knows the game. Who cares what they look or sound like? Have we ever had a caster that sounded so bad?
People just need to get out of their shell and experience accents from different parts of the world.
lol. I'm casting and I can tell you that it's the most important thing. People listening for something else than being entertained are such a minority (that you'll find on TL yeah) that you can say bullshit most of the time and get away with it. Just like in mainstreamed TV sports.
What you're saying and what you sound like when you're saying it are two different things. No doubt, one needs to speak eloquently to be a caster. Unless you have a speech impediment, I don't see the problem.
On May 25 2015 06:46 stuchiu wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAH I USE THIS BUILD TOO IA HAHAHAHAHAHAH
b-but 10pool?
I actually have 9 different PvZ builds I use.
go
This build, 14/14 bane bust hatch first into fast 7 roach rush 10 pool triple hatch before pool proxy hatch their nat proxy hatch their main proxy hatch their rocks fast Gold
you sound like a macro player
I have this great build where if the Protoss scouts, I can make them make 3 extra cannons while I drone to 70.
the only ones I can think of are fake 14/14 or 2 base roach
I hatch first, hide a drone near my third and before the probe goes up into my main I pull every drone and kill the probe.
are you actually dr. Dario?
Im just a Zerg who hated playing bl/infestor SH and was forced to learn every way to gamble a win.
On May 25 2015 06:48 Alchemik wrote: [quote] b-but 10pool?
I actually have 9 different PvZ builds I use.
go
This build, 14/14 bane bust hatch first into fast 7 roach rush 10 pool triple hatch before pool proxy hatch their nat proxy hatch their main proxy hatch their rocks fast Gold
you sound like a macro player
I have this great build where if the Protoss scouts, I can make them make 3 extra cannons while I drone to 70.
the only ones I can think of are fake 14/14 or 2 base roach
I hatch first, hide a drone near my third and before the probe goes up into my main I pull every drone and kill the probe.
are you actually dr. Dario?
Im just a Zerg who hated playing bl/infestor SH and was forced to learn every way to gamble a win.
Been watching a lot of BW lately, tuning in to Harstem because he's from around here. What is SC2 about these days? Still death balls and voidrays? -^ But seriously, why is Harstem in a corner awaiting a lot of hydras?
tbh it's about time that we get ex relevant pros as analysts.
also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
Having a good voice is almost the n°1 thing to be a caster lol
100% disagree, though I guess the majority of the player base are total scrubs. You would think even silver and gold players could appreciate someone who actually knows the game. Who cares what they look or sound like? Have we ever had a caster that sounded so bad?
People just need to get out of their shell and experience accents from different parts of the world.
lol. I'm casting and I can tell you that it's the most important thing. People listening for something else than being entertained are such a minority (that you'll find on TL yeah) that you can say bullshit most of the time and get away with it. Just like in mainstreamed TV sports.
What you're saying and what you sound like when you're saying it are two different things. No doubt, one needs to speak eloquently to be a caster. Unless you have a speech impediment, I don't see the problem.
you don't have to be eloquent, basic english/whatever language is enough as long as you can engage people into the cast. And you need to have a good voice for it.
On May 25 2015 07:00 nepeta wrote: Been watching a lot of BW lately, tuning in to Harstem because he's from around here. What is SC2 about these days? Still death balls and voidrays? -^ But seriously, why is Harstem in a corner awaiting a lot of hydras?
Don't waste your time watching foreign wcs. Just watch proleague/korean starcraft. It's pretty awesome.
Foreign starcraft is more about getting drunk and having a laugh
This build, 14/14 bane bust hatch first into fast 7 roach rush 10 pool triple hatch before pool proxy hatch their nat proxy hatch their main proxy hatch their rocks fast Gold
you sound like a macro player
I have this great build where if the Protoss scouts, I can make them make 3 extra cannons while I drone to 70.
the only ones I can think of are fake 14/14 or 2 base roach
I hatch first, hide a drone near my third and before the probe goes up into my main I pull every drone and kill the probe.
are you actually dr. Dario?
Im just a Zerg who hated playing bl/infestor SH and was forced to learn every way to gamble a win.
On May 25 2015 07:00 nepeta wrote: Been watching a lot of BW lately, tuning in to Harstem because he's from around here. What is SC2 about these days? Still death balls and voidrays? -^ But seriously, why is Harstem in a corner awaiting a lot of hydras?
Don't waste your time watching foreign wcs. Just watch proleague/korean starcraft. It's pretty awesome.
Foreign starcraft is more about getting drunk and having a laugh
Ah, then it's probably good that I'm watching Take stream it. So much more laughs and laid back stuff than official stream. But that's sad actually, SC2 being Korean only again. Last big tournament I looked up on liquipedia was all Koreans from Ro16 or Ro32 on. Then again, did they finally cap the number of Koreans in WCS? Or shouldn't there be more in group stage?
Edit: Why are Taketv casters saying Harstem is German... :x
On May 25 2015 07:00 nepeta wrote: Been watching a lot of BW lately, tuning in to Harstem because he's from around here. What is SC2 about these days? Still death balls and voidrays? -^ But seriously, why is Harstem in a corner awaiting a lot of hydras?
Don't waste your time watching foreign wcs. Just watch proleague/korean starcraft. It's pretty awesome.
Foreign starcraft is more about getting drunk and having a laugh
Ah, then it's probably good that I'm watching Take stream it. So much more laughs and laid back stuff than official stream. But that's sad actually, SC2 being Korean only again. Last big tournament I looked up on liquipedia was all Koreans from Ro16 or Ro32 on. Then again, did they finally cap the number of Koreans in WCS? Or shouldn't there be more in group stage?
Edit: Why are Taketv casters saying Harstem is German... :x
Region locked WCS. Koreans need a visa to play. Or be ForGG.
On May 25 2015 07:00 nepeta wrote: Been watching a lot of BW lately, tuning in to Harstem because he's from around here. What is SC2 about these days? Still death balls and voidrays? -^ But seriously, why is Harstem in a corner awaiting a lot of hydras?
Don't waste your time watching foreign wcs. Just watch proleague/korean starcraft. It's pretty awesome.
Foreign starcraft is more about getting drunk and having a laugh
Ah, then it's probably good that I'm watching Take stream it. So much more laughs and laid back stuff than official stream. But that's sad actually, SC2 being Korean only again. Last big tournament I looked up on liquipedia was all Koreans from Ro16 or Ro32 on. Then again, did they finally cap the number of Koreans in WCS? Or shouldn't there be more in group stage?
There is a region lock for koreans (koreans can't play in non-korean events without a visa).
The level of Korean starcraft is very very high atm (way above, even a year ago)
There are also 2 individual leagues in Korea atm. GSL, SSL (run by spotv) and proleague obviously.
iA overextended, you don't want to attack into a Protoss position behind a choke, a ling runby while waiting for Broodlord numbers could be way better.
On May 25 2015 06:39 Alchemik wrote: [quote] also it's time we get casters who know something about ZvZ
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
Having a good voice is almost the n°1 thing to be a caster lol
100% disagree, though I guess the majority of the player base are total scrubs. You would think even silver and gold players could appreciate someone who actually knows the game. Who cares what they look or sound like? Have we ever had a caster that sounded so bad?
People just need to get out of their shell and experience accents from different parts of the world.
lol. I'm casting and I can tell you that it's the most important thing. People listening for something else than being entertained are such a minority (that you'll find on TL yeah) that you can say bullshit most of the time and get away with it. Just like in mainstreamed TV sports.
What you're saying and what you sound like when you're saying it are two different things. No doubt, one needs to speak eloquently to be a caster. Unless you have a speech impediment, I don't see the problem.
you don't have to be eloquent, basic english/whatever language is enough as long as you can engage people into the cast. And you need to have a good voice for it.
So you can be retarded as long as your voice is good, right.
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I really don't understand these zergs. They both only made 5 or 6 corruptors for broodlords and then morphed them in really terrible places. iA gave away one of his 5 potential BLs instantly because of bad position. I could understand it if you're morphing 10-15 where losing 1 doesn't particularly matter but losing 1 when you only can make 5 is just sloppy
On May 25 2015 07:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Ultras into lose. Shoulda just gone straight to Brood Lords I guess
He can't really play Ultras without creep, mass Queens, Infestors and Vipers. He only had Vipers and the rest of supply were Lings and Hydralisks that get shredded by that Protoss army.
Overall nice game, but IA had some bad engagements and bad engagement with Ultralisks is pretty much lost game.
Seriously. Kane is much much better than moonglade
Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
Having a good voice is almost the n°1 thing to be a caster lol
100% disagree, though I guess the majority of the player base are total scrubs. You would think even silver and gold players could appreciate someone who actually knows the game. Who cares what they look or sound like? Have we ever had a caster that sounded so bad?
People just need to get out of their shell and experience accents from different parts of the world.
lol. I'm casting and I can tell you that it's the most important thing. People listening for something else than being entertained are such a minority (that you'll find on TL yeah) that you can say bullshit most of the time and get away with it. Just like in mainstreamed TV sports.
What you're saying and what you sound like when you're saying it are two different things. No doubt, one needs to speak eloquently to be a caster. Unless you have a speech impediment, I don't see the problem.
you don't have to be eloquent, basic english/whatever language is enough as long as you can engage people into the cast. And you need to have a good voice for it.
So you can be retarded as long as your voice is good, right.
well catspajamas was a good sc2 caster. He's not retarded but wasn't exactly knowledgeable about the game. Like TB when he began. Or tasteless these days.
On May 25 2015 07:00 nepeta wrote: Been watching a lot of BW lately, tuning in to Harstem because he's from around here. What is SC2 about these days? Still death balls and voidrays? -^ But seriously, why is Harstem in a corner awaiting a lot of hydras?
Don't waste your time watching foreign wcs. Just watch proleague/korean starcraft. It's pretty awesome.
Foreign starcraft is more about getting drunk and having a laugh
Ah, then it's probably good that I'm watching Take stream it. So much more laughs and laid back stuff than official stream. But that's sad actually, SC2 being Korean only again. Last big tournament I looked up on liquipedia was all Koreans from Ro16 or Ro32 on. Then again, did they finally cap the number of Koreans in WCS? Or shouldn't there be more in group stage?
There is a region lock for koreans (koreans can't play in non-korean events without a visa).
The level of Korean starcraft is very very high atm (way above, even a year ago)
There are also 2 individual leagues in Korea atm. GSL, SSL (run by spotv) and proleague obviously.
Heh, so they finally decided in favour of the countries/players instead of the level of play. Hope it did some good in the popularity/viewer numbers.
On May 25 2015 07:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Ultras into lose. Shoulda just gone straight to Brood Lords I guess
He can't really play Ultras without creep, mass Queens, Infestors and Vipers. He only had Vipers and the rest of supply were Lings and Hydralisks that get shredded by that Protoss army.
Overall nice game, but IA had some bad engagements and bad engagement with Ultralisks is pretty much lost game.
On May 25 2015 07:00 nepeta wrote: Been watching a lot of BW lately, tuning in to Harstem because he's from around here. What is SC2 about these days? Still death balls and voidrays? -^ But seriously, why is Harstem in a corner awaiting a lot of hydras?
Don't waste your time watching foreign wcs. Just watch proleague/korean starcraft. It's pretty awesome.
Foreign starcraft is more about getting drunk and having a laugh
Ah, then it's probably good that I'm watching Take stream it. So much more laughs and laid back stuff than official stream. But that's sad actually, SC2 being Korean only again. Last big tournament I looked up on liquipedia was all Koreans from Ro16 or Ro32 on. Then again, did they finally cap the number of Koreans in WCS? Or shouldn't there be more in group stage?
There is a region lock for koreans (koreans can't play in non-korean events without a visa).
The level of Korean starcraft is very very high atm (way above, even a year ago)
There are also 2 individual leagues in Korea atm. GSL, SSL (run by spotv) and proleague obviously.
Heh, so they finally decided in favour of the countries/players instead of the level of play. Hope it did some good in the popularity/viewer numbers.
But anyway, Harstem fighting for the win!
At least in Korean, sc2 is at its most popular peak in terms of viewership. Outside of Korea its not in its best state though.
On May 25 2015 07:10 Alucen-Will- wrote: I just realized this guy is on IG/Prime
I want to see him play in proleague
He's on iG's academy, maybe he got promoted and I don't know, because he's still in school. IDK how the chinese schooling system works but I doubt he'll play in proleague. At least this round, I'm pretty sure only Jim/XY/Macsed were put on the official roster
On May 25 2015 06:43 Elentos wrote: [quote] Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
Having a good voice is almost the n°1 thing to be a caster lol
100% disagree, though I guess the majority of the player base are total scrubs. You would think even silver and gold players could appreciate someone who actually knows the game. Who cares what they look or sound like? Have we ever had a caster that sounded so bad?
People just need to get out of their shell and experience accents from different parts of the world.
lol. I'm casting and I can tell you that it's the most important thing. People listening for something else than being entertained are such a minority (that you'll find on TL yeah) that you can say bullshit most of the time and get away with it. Just like in mainstreamed TV sports.
What you're saying and what you sound like when you're saying it are two different things. No doubt, one needs to speak eloquently to be a caster. Unless you have a speech impediment, I don't see the problem.
you don't have to be eloquent, basic english/whatever language is enough as long as you can engage people into the cast. And you need to have a good voice for it.
So you can be retarded as long as your voice is good, right.
well catspajamas was a good sc2 caster. He's not retarded but wasn't exactly knowledgeable about the game. Like TB when he began. Or tasteless these days.
Everyone improved, only Tasteless gets worse. Sad.
On May 25 2015 07:00 nepeta wrote: Been watching a lot of BW lately, tuning in to Harstem because he's from around here. What is SC2 about these days? Still death balls and voidrays? -^ But seriously, why is Harstem in a corner awaiting a lot of hydras?
Don't waste your time watching foreign wcs. Just watch proleague/korean starcraft. It's pretty awesome.
Foreign starcraft is more about getting drunk and having a laugh
Ah, then it's probably good that I'm watching Take stream it. So much more laughs and laid back stuff than official stream. But that's sad actually, SC2 being Korean only again. Last big tournament I looked up on liquipedia was all Koreans from Ro16 or Ro32 on. Then again, did they finally cap the number of Koreans in WCS? Or shouldn't there be more in group stage?
There is a region lock for koreans (koreans can't play in non-korean events without a visa).
The level of Korean starcraft is very very high atm (way above, even a year ago)
There are also 2 individual leagues in Korea atm. GSL, SSL (run by spotv) and proleague obviously.
Heh, so they finally decided in favour of the countries/players instead of the level of play. Hope it did some good in the popularity/viewer numbers.
But anyway, Harstem fighting for the win!
With two leagues in Korea to compensate we at least get to see more of the high level play.
On May 25 2015 06:44 chipmonklord17 wrote: [quote]
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
Having a good voice is almost the n°1 thing to be a caster lol
100% disagree, though I guess the majority of the player base are total scrubs. You would think even silver and gold players could appreciate someone who actually knows the game. Who cares what they look or sound like? Have we ever had a caster that sounded so bad?
People just need to get out of their shell and experience accents from different parts of the world.
lol. I'm casting and I can tell you that it's the most important thing. People listening for something else than being entertained are such a minority (that you'll find on TL yeah) that you can say bullshit most of the time and get away with it. Just like in mainstreamed TV sports.
What you're saying and what you sound like when you're saying it are two different things. No doubt, one needs to speak eloquently to be a caster. Unless you have a speech impediment, I don't see the problem.
you don't have to be eloquent, basic english/whatever language is enough as long as you can engage people into the cast. And you need to have a good voice for it.
So you can be retarded as long as your voice is good, right.
well catspajamas was a good sc2 caster. He's not retarded but wasn't exactly knowledgeable about the game. Like TB when he began. Or tasteless these days.
Everyone improved, only Tasteless gets worse. Sad.
Still a beast about Pokemon/Nintendo Games and for play by play
On May 25 2015 07:00 nepeta wrote: Been watching a lot of BW lately, tuning in to Harstem because he's from around here. What is SC2 about these days? Still death balls and voidrays? -^ But seriously, why is Harstem in a corner awaiting a lot of hydras?
Don't waste your time watching foreign wcs. Just watch proleague/korean starcraft. It's pretty awesome.
Foreign starcraft is more about getting drunk and having a laugh
Ah, then it's probably good that I'm watching Take stream it. So much more laughs and laid back stuff than official stream. But that's sad actually, SC2 being Korean only again. Last big tournament I looked up on liquipedia was all Koreans from Ro16 or Ro32 on. Then again, did they finally cap the number of Koreans in WCS? Or shouldn't there be more in group stage?
There is a region lock for koreans (koreans can't play in non-korean events without a visa).
The level of Korean starcraft is very very high atm (way above, even a year ago)
There are also 2 individual leagues in Korea atm. GSL, SSL (run by spotv) and proleague obviously.
Heh, so they finally decided in favour of the countries/players instead of the level of play. Hope it did some good in the popularity/viewer numbers.
But anyway, Harstem fighting for the win!
With two leagues in Korea to compensate we at least get to see more of the high level play.
And a likely all Korean blizzcon. Separating WCS like this gave the illusion that it was "favoring" the inclusion of foreigners but still in the end becomes all about results/skill (aka Koreans)
On May 25 2015 06:46 TRaFFiC wrote: [quote] wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
Having a good voice is almost the n°1 thing to be a caster lol
100% disagree, though I guess the majority of the player base are total scrubs. You would think even silver and gold players could appreciate someone who actually knows the game. Who cares what they look or sound like? Have we ever had a caster that sounded so bad?
People just need to get out of their shell and experience accents from different parts of the world.
lol. I'm casting and I can tell you that it's the most important thing. People listening for something else than being entertained are such a minority (that you'll find on TL yeah) that you can say bullshit most of the time and get away with it. Just like in mainstreamed TV sports.
What you're saying and what you sound like when you're saying it are two different things. No doubt, one needs to speak eloquently to be a caster. Unless you have a speech impediment, I don't see the problem.
you don't have to be eloquent, basic english/whatever language is enough as long as you can engage people into the cast. And you need to have a good voice for it.
So you can be retarded as long as your voice is good, right.
well catspajamas was a good sc2 caster. He's not retarded but wasn't exactly knowledgeable about the game. Like TB when he began. Or tasteless these days.
Everyone improved, only Tasteless gets worse. Sad.
Still a beast about Pokemon/Nintendo Games and for play by play
There's no time for play by play in Tastosis GSL casts though because they always talk about random shit.
On May 25 2015 07:00 nepeta wrote: Been watching a lot of BW lately, tuning in to Harstem because he's from around here. What is SC2 about these days? Still death balls and voidrays? -^ But seriously, why is Harstem in a corner awaiting a lot of hydras?
Don't waste your time watching foreign wcs. Just watch proleague/korean starcraft. It's pretty awesome.
Foreign starcraft is more about getting drunk and having a laugh
Ah, then it's probably good that I'm watching Take stream it. So much more laughs and laid back stuff than official stream. But that's sad actually, SC2 being Korean only again. Last big tournament I looked up on liquipedia was all Koreans from Ro16 or Ro32 on. Then again, did they finally cap the number of Koreans in WCS? Or shouldn't there be more in group stage?
There is a region lock for koreans (koreans can't play in non-korean events without a visa).
The level of Korean starcraft is very very high atm (way above, even a year ago)
There are also 2 individual leagues in Korea atm. GSL, SSL (run by spotv) and proleague obviously.
Heh, so they finally decided in favour of the countries/players instead of the level of play. Hope it did some good in the popularity/viewer numbers.
But anyway, Harstem fighting for the win!
With two leagues in Korea to compensate we at least get to see more of the high level play.
And a likely all Korean blizzcon. Separating WCS like this gave the illusion that it was "favoring" the inclusion of foreigners but still in the end becomes all about results/skill (aka Koreans)
did anybody actually think this wcs would give foreigners a different chance, i think it's just the same as it was last year
On May 25 2015 07:00 nepeta wrote: Been watching a lot of BW lately, tuning in to Harstem because he's from around here. What is SC2 about these days? Still death balls and voidrays? -^ But seriously, why is Harstem in a corner awaiting a lot of hydras?
Don't waste your time watching foreign wcs. Just watch proleague/korean starcraft. It's pretty awesome.
Foreign starcraft is more about getting drunk and having a laugh
Ah, then it's probably good that I'm watching Take stream it. So much more laughs and laid back stuff than official stream. But that's sad actually, SC2 being Korean only again. Last big tournament I looked up on liquipedia was all Koreans from Ro16 or Ro32 on. Then again, did they finally cap the number of Koreans in WCS? Or shouldn't there be more in group stage?
There is a region lock for koreans (koreans can't play in non-korean events without a visa).
The level of Korean starcraft is very very high atm (way above, even a year ago)
There are also 2 individual leagues in Korea atm. GSL, SSL (run by spotv) and proleague obviously.
Heh, so they finally decided in favour of the countries/players instead of the level of play. Hope it did some good in the popularity/viewer numbers.
But anyway, Harstem fighting for the win!
With two leagues in Korea to compensate we at least get to see more of the high level play.
And a likely all Korean blizzcon. Separating WCS like this gave the illusion that it was "favoring" the inclusion of foreigners but still in the end becomes all about results/skill (aka Koreans)
did anybody actually think this wcs would give foreigners a different chance, i think it's just the same as it was last year
Definitely. When it was first announced I remember going into detail about why this is actually worse for foreigners because so many people thought the opposite.
On May 25 2015 07:00 nepeta wrote: Been watching a lot of BW lately, tuning in to Harstem because he's from around here. What is SC2 about these days? Still death balls and voidrays? -^ But seriously, why is Harstem in a corner awaiting a lot of hydras?
Don't waste your time watching foreign wcs. Just watch proleague/korean starcraft. It's pretty awesome.
Foreign starcraft is more about getting drunk and having a laugh
Ah, then it's probably good that I'm watching Take stream it. So much more laughs and laid back stuff than official stream. But that's sad actually, SC2 being Korean only again. Last big tournament I looked up on liquipedia was all Koreans from Ro16 or Ro32 on. Then again, did they finally cap the number of Koreans in WCS? Or shouldn't there be more in group stage?
There is a region lock for koreans (koreans can't play in non-korean events without a visa).
The level of Korean starcraft is very very high atm (way above, even a year ago)
There are also 2 individual leagues in Korea atm. GSL, SSL (run by spotv) and proleague obviously.
Heh, so they finally decided in favour of the countries/players instead of the level of play. Hope it did some good in the popularity/viewer numbers.
But anyway, Harstem fighting for the win!
With two leagues in Korea to compensate we at least get to see more of the high level play.
And a likely all Korean blizzcon. Separating WCS like this gave the illusion that it was "favoring" the inclusion of foreigners but still in the end becomes all about results/skill (aka Koreans)
I imagine foreigners aren't doing much in finals etc... pity. So strange to see the Korean work ethic prevail yet again.
On May 25 2015 07:00 nepeta wrote: Been watching a lot of BW lately, tuning in to Harstem because he's from around here. What is SC2 about these days? Still death balls and voidrays? -^ But seriously, why is Harstem in a corner awaiting a lot of hydras?
Don't waste your time watching foreign wcs. Just watch proleague/korean starcraft. It's pretty awesome.
Foreign starcraft is more about getting drunk and having a laugh
Ah, then it's probably good that I'm watching Take stream it. So much more laughs and laid back stuff than official stream. But that's sad actually, SC2 being Korean only again. Last big tournament I looked up on liquipedia was all Koreans from Ro16 or Ro32 on. Then again, did they finally cap the number of Koreans in WCS? Or shouldn't there be more in group stage?
There is a region lock for koreans (koreans can't play in non-korean events without a visa).
The level of Korean starcraft is very very high atm (way above, even a year ago)
There are also 2 individual leagues in Korea atm. GSL, SSL (run by spotv) and proleague obviously.
Heh, so they finally decided in favour of the countries/players instead of the level of play. Hope it did some good in the popularity/viewer numbers.
But anyway, Harstem fighting for the win!
With two leagues in Korea to compensate we at least get to see more of the high level play.
And a likely all Korean blizzcon. Separating WCS like this gave the illusion that it was "favoring" the inclusion of foreigners but still in the end becomes all about results/skill (aka Koreans)
I imagine foreigners aren't doing much in finals etc... pity. So strange to see the Korean work ethic prevail yet again.
Just think of sc2 moving in the way of broodwar. That's pretty much what is happening.
On May 25 2015 07:00 nepeta wrote: Been watching a lot of BW lately, tuning in to Harstem because he's from around here. What is SC2 about these days? Still death balls and voidrays? -^ But seriously, why is Harstem in a corner awaiting a lot of hydras?
Don't waste your time watching foreign wcs. Just watch proleague/korean starcraft. It's pretty awesome.
Foreign starcraft is more about getting drunk and having a laugh
Ah, then it's probably good that I'm watching Take stream it. So much more laughs and laid back stuff than official stream. But that's sad actually, SC2 being Korean only again. Last big tournament I looked up on liquipedia was all Koreans from Ro16 or Ro32 on. Then again, did they finally cap the number of Koreans in WCS? Or shouldn't there be more in group stage?
There is a region lock for koreans (koreans can't play in non-korean events without a visa).
The level of Korean starcraft is very very high atm (way above, even a year ago)
There are also 2 individual leagues in Korea atm. GSL, SSL (run by spotv) and proleague obviously.
Heh, so they finally decided in favour of the countries/players instead of the level of play. Hope it did some good in the popularity/viewer numbers.
But anyway, Harstem fighting for the win!
With two leagues in Korea to compensate we at least get to see more of the high level play.
And a likely all Korean blizzcon. Separating WCS like this gave the illusion that it was "favoring" the inclusion of foreigners but still in the end becomes all about results/skill (aka Koreans)
did anybody actually think this wcs would give foreigners a different chance, i think it's just the same as it was last year
Definitely. When it was first announced I remember going into detail about why this is actually worse for foreigners because so many people thought the opposite.
I don't think it's worse for foreigners. It doesn't ameliorate their Blizzcon chances, but they definitely have better opportunities to show their skills in WCS.
On May 25 2015 07:00 nepeta wrote: Been watching a lot of BW lately, tuning in to Harstem because he's from around here. What is SC2 about these days? Still death balls and voidrays? -^ But seriously, why is Harstem in a corner awaiting a lot of hydras?
Don't waste your time watching foreign wcs. Just watch proleague/korean starcraft. It's pretty awesome.
Foreign starcraft is more about getting drunk and having a laugh
Ah, then it's probably good that I'm watching Take stream it. So much more laughs and laid back stuff than official stream. But that's sad actually, SC2 being Korean only again. Last big tournament I looked up on liquipedia was all Koreans from Ro16 or Ro32 on. Then again, did they finally cap the number of Koreans in WCS? Or shouldn't there be more in group stage?
There is a region lock for koreans (koreans can't play in non-korean events without a visa).
The level of Korean starcraft is very very high atm (way above, even a year ago)
There are also 2 individual leagues in Korea atm. GSL, SSL (run by spotv) and proleague obviously.
Heh, so they finally decided in favour of the countries/players instead of the level of play. Hope it did some good in the popularity/viewer numbers.
But anyway, Harstem fighting for the win!
With two leagues in Korea to compensate we at least get to see more of the high level play.
And a likely all Korean blizzcon. Separating WCS like this gave the illusion that it was "favoring" the inclusion of foreigners but still in the end becomes all about results/skill (aka Koreans)
I imagine foreigners aren't doing much in finals etc... pity. So strange to see the Korean work ethic prevail yet again.
Oh I'm all for it. I just would rather it be called like it is and not for the "lets get foreigners into Blizcon" that it was announced as
On May 25 2015 07:00 nepeta wrote: Been watching a lot of BW lately, tuning in to Harstem because he's from around here. What is SC2 about these days? Still death balls and voidrays? -^ But seriously, why is Harstem in a corner awaiting a lot of hydras?
Don't waste your time watching foreign wcs. Just watch proleague/korean starcraft. It's pretty awesome.
Foreign starcraft is more about getting drunk and having a laugh
Ah, then it's probably good that I'm watching Take stream it. So much more laughs and laid back stuff than official stream. But that's sad actually, SC2 being Korean only again. Last big tournament I looked up on liquipedia was all Koreans from Ro16 or Ro32 on. Then again, did they finally cap the number of Koreans in WCS? Or shouldn't there be more in group stage?
There is a region lock for koreans (koreans can't play in non-korean events without a visa).
The level of Korean starcraft is very very high atm (way above, even a year ago)
There are also 2 individual leagues in Korea atm. GSL, SSL (run by spotv) and proleague obviously.
Heh, so they finally decided in favour of the countries/players instead of the level of play. Hope it did some good in the popularity/viewer numbers.
But anyway, Harstem fighting for the win!
With two leagues in Korea to compensate we at least get to see more of the high level play.
And a likely all Korean blizzcon. Separating WCS like this gave the illusion that it was "favoring" the inclusion of foreigners but still in the end becomes all about results/skill (aka Koreans)
I imagine foreigners aren't doing much in finals etc... pity. So strange to see the Korean work ethic prevail yet again.
Just think of sc2 moving in the way of broodwar. That's pretty much what is happening.
Hey, at least WCG is dead, no more random guys from strange countries able to buy themselves a spot and play vs JD :p Too bad it's come so far again, but perhaps that's the way things work. We'll beat the Koreans at football and long distance ice skating. Good thing they beat us at figure ice skating. It's all about balance in the end
On May 25 2015 06:43 Elentos wrote: [quote] Tbh, my issue with Moonglade is that his voice sounds... I dunno, how do I say that? It sounds weird. Especially when talking about how attractive he finds Zest or the like, his voice just sounds... weird. I like him tho.
I think the complete opposite. I love listening to moonglade, I'm starting to warm up to kane but I foundsomething weird about his voice too.
wtf does "find his voice weird mean?"
Do we really live in an age where top gm zergs can't get a gig because their voice is weird. lol... they're both native English speakers.
Having a good voice is almost the n°1 thing to be a caster lol
100% disagree, though I guess the majority of the player base are total scrubs. You would think even silver and gold players could appreciate someone who actually knows the game. Who cares what they look or sound like? Have we ever had a caster that sounded so bad?
People just need to get out of their shell and experience accents from different parts of the world.
lol. I'm casting and I can tell you that it's the most important thing. People listening for something else than being entertained are such a minority (that you'll find on TL yeah) that you can say bullshit most of the time and get away with it. Just like in mainstreamed TV sports.
What you're saying and what you sound like when you're saying it are two different things. No doubt, one needs to speak eloquently to be a caster. Unless you have a speech impediment, I don't see the problem.
you don't have to be eloquent, basic english/whatever language is enough as long as you can engage people into the cast. And you need to have a good voice for it.
So you can be retarded as long as your voice is good, right.
well catspajamas was a good sc2 caster. He's not retarded but wasn't exactly knowledgeable about the game. Like TB when he began. Or tasteless these days.
What exactly makes a "good voice?" It seems impossible to define to me. It all depends on your own bias based on what accents you grew up listening to and societal brainwashing. The same kinda thing with white people being considered more attractive worldwide. It's just stupid.
CatzPajamas didn't just have a good voice. He has a nice brain. The ability to articulate his thoughts in an organized manner. Not everyone can do that.
Tasteless is a low tier caster. He's not going to be able to live off his glory days forever. People are catching on that he doesn't do any research on the players etc. You can't say he's more popular now then during the glory days of GSL.
Both the casters you mentioned stay relevant based on popularity and networking. Not their voice.
On May 25 2015 07:26 Faefae wrote: The 'French fans back in tour were sooo good but in Toronto they are soooo sooo good too are you excited ?!?!' question is getting old really fast !
Future ESEX article - "France and Canada announce state of hostilities between eSports fans to determine most passionate crowds. Poland declined to comment for this article, but were seen chuckling in a condescending manner."
On May 25 2015 07:26 Faefae wrote: The 'French fans back in tour were sooo good but in Toronto they are soooo sooo good too are you excited ?!?!' question is getting old really fast !
Future ESEX article - "France and Canada announce state of hostilities between eSports fans to determine most passionate crowds. Poland declined to comment for this article, but were seen chuckling in a condescending manner."
On May 25 2015 07:26 Faefae wrote: The 'French fans back in tour were sooo good but in Toronto they are soooo sooo good too are you excited ?!?!' question is getting old really fast !
Future ESEX article - "France and Canada announce state of hostilities between eSports fans to determine most passionate crowds. Poland declined to comment for this article, but were seen chuckling in a condescending manner."
On May 25 2015 07:26 Faefae wrote: The 'French fans back in tour were sooo good but in Toronto they are soooo sooo good too are you excited ?!?!' question is getting old really fast !
Future ESEX article - "France and Canada announce state of hostilities between eSports fans to determine most passionate crowds. Poland declined to comment for this article, but were seen chuckling in a condescending manner."
it's not like we could read the article anyway
It's okay. I only see it being written after LotV comes out and everyone comes back to the ded gaem for a cash grab.
On May 25 2015 07:26 Faefae wrote: The 'French fans back in tour were sooo good but in Toronto they are soooo sooo good too are you excited ?!?!' question is getting old really fast !
Future ESEX article - "France and Canada announce state of hostilities between eSports fans to determine most passionate crowds. Poland declined to comment for this article, but were seen chuckling in a condescending manner."
Too bad ESEX didn't get enough free money to do SC2 articles, cause that'd be hilarious
You might as well just write Toronto instead of Canada, cause the rest of the country hasn't ever been tested /salt
Tournament organizers want to hold tournaments where people actually live
Because there's no one around Vancouver. Not a single several million people in the metro area + millions more in the surrounding states and provinces who would be willing to travel long distances cause no events ever come here. NOT. A. SINGLE. ONE
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On May 25 2015 07:45 royalroadweed wrote: How is that not a wall? One more reason for me to hate Expedition Lost.
Is there a race that likes expedition?
Does ByuL count as a race?
He'll soon enter the race of Starleague champions so sure lets do that
On May 25 2015 07:47 Solar424 wrote:
On May 25 2015 07:46 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 25 2015 07:45 royalroadweed wrote: How is that not a wall? One more reason for me to hate Expedition Lost.
Is there a race that likes expedition?
Zerg because backdoor rocks
The back rocks are only useful to zerg if the opponent is braindead. Its more harm than good imo
If Dream manages to upset herO, then I doubt it. At least for this season.
I think Byul plays different enough than life that dreams insanely good tvz won't counter him as much. But he definitely would rather play herO
Did you see KeSPA Cup? ByuL got utterly outclassed. No Zerg would "rather play herO".
yeah other than Rogue or Life (who I'm sure would struggle a lot anyways) i dont think a zerg wants to play herO. Especially ByuL, his teammate has him on lockdown.
On May 25 2015 07:45 royalroadweed wrote: How is that not a wall? One more reason for me to hate Expedition Lost.
Is there a race that likes expedition?
Does ByuL count as a race?
He'll soon enter the race of Starleague champions so sure lets do that
On May 25 2015 07:47 Solar424 wrote:
On May 25 2015 07:46 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 25 2015 07:45 royalroadweed wrote: How is that not a wall? One more reason for me to hate Expedition Lost.
Is there a race that likes expedition?
Zerg because backdoor rocks
The back rocks are only useful to zerg if the opponent is braindead. Its more harm than good imo
If Dream manages to upset herO, then I doubt it. At least for this season.
I think Byul plays different enough than life that dreams insanely good tvz won't counter him as much. But he definitely would rather play herO
Did you see KeSPA Cup? ByuL got utterly outclassed. No Zerg would "rather play herO".
yeah other than Rogue or Life (who I'm sure would struggle a lot anyways) i dont think a zerg wants to play herO. Especially ByuL, his teammate has him on lockdown.
I still think if you're given the option of DreamvZ or herO you'd pick herO.
On May 25 2015 07:45 royalroadweed wrote: How is that not a wall? One more reason for me to hate Expedition Lost.
Is there a race that likes expedition?
Does ByuL count as a race?
He'll soon enter the race of Starleague champions so sure lets do that
On May 25 2015 07:47 Solar424 wrote:
On May 25 2015 07:46 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 25 2015 07:45 royalroadweed wrote: How is that not a wall? One more reason for me to hate Expedition Lost.
Is there a race that likes expedition?
Zerg because backdoor rocks
The back rocks are only useful to zerg if the opponent is braindead. Its more harm than good imo
If Dream manages to upset herO, then I doubt it. At least for this season.
I think Byul plays different enough than life that dreams insanely good tvz won't counter him as much. But he definitely would rather play herO
Did you see KeSPA Cup? ByuL got utterly outclassed. No Zerg would "rather play herO".
yeah other than Rogue or Life (who I'm sure would struggle a lot anyways) i dont think a zerg wants to play herO. Especially ByuL, his teammate has him on lockdown.
I still think if you're given the option of DreamvZ or herO you'd pick herO.
Or cry
Playing herO would mean only playing one match-up so I'd be inclined to agree.
On May 25 2015 07:45 royalroadweed wrote: How is that not a wall? One more reason for me to hate Expedition Lost.
Is there a race that likes expedition?
Does ByuL count as a race?
He'll soon enter the race of Starleague champions so sure lets do that
On May 25 2015 07:47 Solar424 wrote:
On May 25 2015 07:46 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 25 2015 07:45 royalroadweed wrote: How is that not a wall? One more reason for me to hate Expedition Lost.
Is there a race that likes expedition?
Zerg because backdoor rocks
The back rocks are only useful to zerg if the opponent is braindead. Its more harm than good imo
If Dream manages to upset herO, then I doubt it. At least for this season.
I think Byul plays different enough than life that dreams insanely good tvz won't counter him as much. But he definitely would rather play herO
Did you see KeSPA Cup? ByuL got utterly outclassed. No Zerg would "rather play herO".
yeah other than Rogue or Life (who I'm sure would struggle a lot anyways) i dont think a zerg wants to play herO. Especially ByuL, his teammate has him on lockdown.
I still think if you're given the option of DreamvZ or herO you'd pick herO.
On May 25 2015 07:45 royalroadweed wrote: How is that not a wall? One more reason for me to hate Expedition Lost.
Is there a race that likes expedition?
Does ByuL count as a race?
He'll soon enter the race of Starleague champions so sure lets do that
On May 25 2015 07:47 Solar424 wrote:
On May 25 2015 07:46 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 25 2015 07:45 royalroadweed wrote: How is that not a wall? One more reason for me to hate Expedition Lost.
Is there a race that likes expedition?
Zerg because backdoor rocks
The back rocks are only useful to zerg if the opponent is braindead. Its more harm than good imo
If Dream manages to upset herO, then I doubt it. At least for this season.
I think Byul plays different enough than life that dreams insanely good tvz won't counter him as much. But he definitely would rather play herO
Did you see KeSPA Cup? ByuL got utterly outclassed. No Zerg would "rather play herO".
yeah other than Rogue or Life (who I'm sure would struggle a lot anyways) i dont think a zerg wants to play herO. Especially ByuL, his teammate has him on lockdown.
I still think if you're given the option of DreamvZ or herO you'd pick herO.
Or cry
Not sure if you haven't heard, but Korean pros consider Dream a "bubble". They don't take him nearly as serious, while every Zerg realises that herO with his 71% all-time winrate in PvZ is exceedingly dangerous.
On May 25 2015 07:45 royalroadweed wrote: How is that not a wall? One more reason for me to hate Expedition Lost.
Is there a race that likes expedition?
Does ByuL count as a race?
He'll soon enter the race of Starleague champions so sure lets do that
On May 25 2015 07:47 Solar424 wrote:
On May 25 2015 07:46 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 25 2015 07:45 royalroadweed wrote: How is that not a wall? One more reason for me to hate Expedition Lost.
Is there a race that likes expedition?
Zerg because backdoor rocks
The back rocks are only useful to zerg if the opponent is braindead. Its more harm than good imo
If Dream manages to upset herO, then I doubt it. At least for this season.
I think Byul plays different enough than life that dreams insanely good tvz won't counter him as much. But he definitely would rather play herO
Did you see KeSPA Cup? ByuL got utterly outclassed. No Zerg would "rather play herO".
yeah other than Rogue or Life (who I'm sure would struggle a lot anyways) i dont think a zerg wants to play herO. Especially ByuL, his teammate has him on lockdown.
I still think if you're given the option of DreamvZ or herO you'd pick herO.
Or cry
Not sure if you haven't heard, but Korean pros consider Dream a "bubble". They don't take him nearly as serious, while every Zerg realises that herO with his 71% all-time winrate in PvZ is exceedingly dangerous.
While this is true, its unknown how much of that is "real" and how much of that is over exaggerated entertainment.
On May 25 2015 08:03 stuchiu wrote: In other news I miss DIMAGA and White-ra
Wonder why the baneling drop style went out of style
cause its terrible and easily dealt with.
Having an overlord with 4 banelings dropping the mineral lines still would be pretty potent. Maybe not the full blown, dropping banelings on sentries but just dropping the mineral lines would be good
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On May 25 2015 08:03 stuchiu wrote: In other news I miss DIMAGA and White-ra
Wonder why the baneling drop style went out of style
cause its terrible and easily dealt with.
Having an overlord with 4 banelings dropping the mineral lines still would be pretty potent. Maybe not the full blown, dropping banelings on sentries but just dropping the mineral lines would be good
Too much of an investment for not enough value. It's like storm drops.
On May 25 2015 07:46 chipmonklord17 wrote: [quote]
Is there a race that likes expedition?
Does ByuL count as a race?
He'll soon enter the race of Starleague champions so sure lets do that
On May 25 2015 07:47 Solar424 wrote:
On May 25 2015 07:46 chipmonklord17 wrote: [quote]
Is there a race that likes expedition?
Zerg because backdoor rocks
The back rocks are only useful to zerg if the opponent is braindead. Its more harm than good imo
If Dream manages to upset herO, then I doubt it. At least for this season.
I think Byul plays different enough than life that dreams insanely good tvz won't counter him as much. But he definitely would rather play herO
Did you see KeSPA Cup? ByuL got utterly outclassed. No Zerg would "rather play herO".
yeah other than Rogue or Life (who I'm sure would struggle a lot anyways) i dont think a zerg wants to play herO. Especially ByuL, his teammate has him on lockdown.
I still think if you're given the option of DreamvZ or herO you'd pick herO.
Or cry
Not sure if you haven't heard, but Korean pros consider Dream a "bubble". They don't take him nearly as serious, while every Zerg realises that herO with his 71% all-time winrate in PvZ is exceedingly dangerous.
While this is true, its unknown how much of that is "real" and how much of that is over exaggerated entertainment.
The point remains. herO vs Zerg is more of a thing than Dream vs Zerg. I'd bet you that almost all Korean Zergs would rather play Dream than herO if they had the choice.
On May 25 2015 08:03 stuchiu wrote: In other news I miss DIMAGA and White-ra
Wonder why the baneling drop style went out of style
cause its terrible and easily dealt with.
Having an overlord with 4 banelings dropping the mineral lines still would be pretty potent. Maybe not the full blown, dropping banelings on sentries but just dropping the mineral lines would be good
its more investment for less reward for more multitasking than just doing a runby or using mutas.
would making ventril sacs just come with lair be too overpowered? or would it be a good enough buff to see more overlord drops as a legitimate strategy
On May 25 2015 08:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote: would making ventril sacs just come with lair be too overpowered? or would it be a good enough buff to see more overlord drops as a legitimate strategy
I think if they combined speed and drop made it cost a little bit more than speed currently does but require the lair that MIGHT work.
On May 25 2015 08:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote: would making ventril sacs just come with lair be too overpowered? or would it be a good enough buff to see more overlord drops as a legitimate strategy
I think if they combined speed and drop made it cost a little bit more than speed currently does but require the lair that MIGHT work.
there should be an upgrade at the nydus network that lets you use nydus worms and overlords interchangeably.
On May 25 2015 08:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote: would making ventril sacs just come with lair be too overpowered? or would it be a good enough buff to see more overlord drops as a legitimate strategy
I think if they combined speed and drop made it cost a little bit more than speed currently does but require the lair that MIGHT work.
there should be an upgrade at the nydus network that lets you use nydus worms and overlords interchangeably.
At this point I'm just glad nydus worms can't be killed while building
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On May 25 2015 08:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote: would making ventril sacs just come with lair be too overpowered? or would it be a good enough buff to see more overlord drops as a legitimate strategy
I think if they combined speed and drop made it cost a little bit more than speed currently does but require the lair that MIGHT work.
there should be an upgrade at the nydus network that lets you use nydus worms and overlords interchangeably.
On May 25 2015 08:18 KingofdaHipHop wrote: would making ventril sacs just come with lair be too overpowered? or would it be a good enough buff to see more overlord drops as a legitimate strategy
I think if they combined speed and drop made it cost a little bit more than speed currently does but require the lair that MIGHT work.
there should be an upgrade at the nydus network that lets you use nydus worms and overlords interchangeably.
Is harstem that good or do ultras just suck? Seems like he was done game 2. But in the games I've watched always seems like ultras are horrible and result in losses for the players who build them. Except fruit dealer in season 1
iAsonu goes through but TooDming barely missed out losing to ForGG and Stardust ffs some rough luck. Grats Harstem. Good attempt trying to make EG care about anyone besides Jaedong Xeno. One day :>
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