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dazed25
Profile Joined August 2014
3566 Posts
May 21 2015 16:58 GMT
#1621
On May 22 2015 01:53 Muxtar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 01:14 Shellshock wrote:
Dream is the #1 rated TvP player atm

Seriously? Dream? Not, ehm... Maru?


i think dream's tvp is overrated but honestly i can be proven wrong. herO should win 4-1 or 4-2.
Zest, Rain, Life, Stats, Flash, PartinG, herO
Muxtar
Profile Joined November 2014
Ukraine64 Posts
May 21 2015 17:00 GMT
#1622
On May 22 2015 01:58 dazed25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 01:53 Muxtar wrote:
On May 22 2015 01:14 Shellshock wrote:
Dream is the #1 rated TvP player atm

Seriously? Dream? Not, ehm... Maru?


i think dream's tvp is overrated but honestly i can be proven wrong. herO should win 4-1 or 4-2.

It is overrated quite a bit. Maru showed vs top protosses that his TvP is awesome. Yes, he lost today to HerO, but you can't have 100% winrate all the time. Dream << Maru.
And no, I am not Maru fan, I am Life fan. Bittersweet day for me
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
May 21 2015 17:04 GMT
#1623
On May 22 2015 01:53 Muxtar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 01:14 Shellshock wrote:
Dream is the #1 rated TvP player atm

Seriously? Dream? Not, ehm... Maru?

Maru was #1 before today. Dream just moving up the ratings because he's 7-1 in offline TvP so far this month. His win rate in TvP in the last year is actually higher than Maru's but Maru's 2 most faced opponents are herO and PartinG who he's 11-13 and 7-15 against respectively so I'm sure that has some effect. I still think Maru is the better of the two. Dream just happens to be higher rated at the time
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-21 17:07:43
May 21 2015 17:05 GMT
#1624
Maru's TvP rating on Aligulac is too low because he rarely ever plays more than a bo1 against Protoss, and usually those are then players he's highly favoured against so the rating increase afterwards isn't much. The last time he played and lost PvT in bo3+ was in his Code S group where he lost 2 series to the two best PvT players in the business, which probably cost him tons of points because Aligulac.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
May 21 2015 17:30 GMT
#1625
Judging by watching games I think its hard to not give best TvP to Maru....Unfortunatly I'd give best PvT to herO soooo
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 21 2015 17:40 GMT
#1626
On May 21 2015 22:11 GumBa wrote:
Could SKT have just transplanted INno's ai into Dreams fresh young body and made a new advanced cyborg?


Nope. Dream actually does smart things and adapts to what the other payer does in a series.
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KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
May 21 2015 17:40 GMT
#1627
I just watched the vod for game 5, holy crap i was sweating
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 21 2015 17:49 GMT
#1628
On May 22 2015 02:40 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 22:11 GumBa wrote:
Could SKT have just transplanted INno's ai into Dreams fresh young body and made a new advanced cyborg?


Nope. Dream actually does smart things and adapts to what the other payer does in a series.

Like the 2nd 9-pool.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
May 21 2015 17:50 GMT
#1629
On May 22 2015 02:49 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 02:40 stuchiu wrote:
On May 21 2015 22:11 GumBa wrote:
Could SKT have just transplanted INno's ai into Dreams fresh young body and made a new advanced cyborg?


Nope. Dream actually does smart things and adapts to what the other payer does in a series.

Like the 2nd 9-pool.

If it was almost any other player instead of Life, they would have followed up with a hatchery first, not a 9 pool. So that was actually pretty smart from Dream.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 21 2015 17:56 GMT
#1630
Holy fuck these results. I'm actually sad to see both Maru and Life out. Dream is Life's fucking kyptonite
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
dazed25
Profile Joined August 2014
3566 Posts
May 21 2015 18:19 GMT
#1631
On May 22 2015 02:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Holy fuck these results. I'm actually sad to see both Maru and Life out. Dream is Life's fucking kyptonite


not really. 8-8 total over the last 3 series. i'd rather see maru-life but it's a pretty solid rivalry at this point.
Zest, Rain, Life, Stats, Flash, PartinG, herO
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
May 21 2015 18:27 GMT
#1632
On May 22 2015 03:19 dazed25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 02:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Holy fuck these results. I'm actually sad to see both Maru and Life out. Dream is Life's fucking kyptonite


not really. 8-8 total over the last 3 series. i'd rather see maru-life but it's a pretty solid rivalry at this point.

I refuse to believe maru v life could ever compare to the game quality of dream v life
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 21 2015 18:48 GMT
#1633
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/485918-s2sl-ro8-day-1-the-usual-suspects-s2-2015#6


2/2 Predictions today.

How about that !
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
May 21 2015 19:11 GMT
#1634
Life plz////
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 21 2015 19:12 GMT
#1635
On May 22 2015 02:50 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 02:49 Elentos wrote:
On May 22 2015 02:40 stuchiu wrote:
On May 21 2015 22:11 GumBa wrote:
Could SKT have just transplanted INno's ai into Dreams fresh young body and made a new advanced cyborg?


Nope. Dream actually does smart things and adapts to what the other payer does in a series.

Like the 2nd 9-pool.

If it was almost any other player instead of Life, they would have followed up with a hatchery first, not a 9 pool. So that was actually pretty smart from Dream.

Yeah, that was actually pretty brilliant.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
May 21 2015 19:31 GMT
#1636
Life and Maru are still better players than Dream and herO, who is better than Parting.
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
WhenRaxFly
Profile Joined April 2015
45 Posts
May 21 2015 19:36 GMT
#1637
On May 22 2015 02:00 Muxtar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 01:58 dazed25 wrote:
On May 22 2015 01:53 Muxtar wrote:
On May 22 2015 01:14 Shellshock wrote:
Dream is the #1 rated TvP player atm

Seriously? Dream? Not, ehm... Maru?


i think dream's tvp is overrated but honestly i can be proven wrong. herO should win 4-1 or 4-2.

It is overrated quite a bit. Maru showed vs top protosses that his TvP is awesome. Yes, he lost today to HerO, but you can't have 100% winrate all the time. Dream << Maru.
And no, I am not Maru fan, I am Life fan. Bittersweet day for me


Actually before Maru started his recent unstoppable form against protoss, TvP was his big weakness, he kept getting sniped in TvP during proleague. Dream has a much more standard TvP and is the best in terms of understanding the matchup, and has incredible ghost control Maru's TvP is insane because he has the ability to micro vs collosus non-stop, and very few protoss have played against such a style so they can't cope with it.

I think dream's TvP is better than Maru, it's just that Maru's style is incredibly flashy and it's rare to see.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37117 Posts
May 21 2015 19:41 GMT
#1638
DREAM MY BOY! I KNEW YOU COULD DO IT AGAIN!!!

SK TELECOM T1 BABY!~!~!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 21 2015 19:46 GMT
#1639
On May 22 2015 02:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Holy fuck these results. I'm actually sad to see both Maru and Life out. Dream is Life's fucking kyptonite


kryptonite makes you play weak. Life played pretty godlike and Dream faced him head on and won.
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-21 19:58:21
May 21 2015 19:57 GMT
#1640
just saw the vods

the first game of maru vs herO and the last game of life vs dream should be remembered as one of the best games korean starcraft produced
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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