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On May 10 2015 03:35 cheekymonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:33 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote: so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Ehhh. It was. That was because the game hadn't matured yet. The later Naniwa/Scarlett/Snute accomplishments are more impressive than Mr 200/200 Roach into BL/Infestor (which isn't to say that Stephano was totally terrible) That's not counterargument. Besides, the game matured with stephano. He was both at korean skill level and innovated the game at the same time.
Nah, not at all
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On May 10 2015 03:34 Larkin wrote:still depresses me that CS:GO is the leading fps I miss halo  As a former CS:S amateur player, I'm so happy CS is back. Too bad StarCraft has captivated me since Source died off. hahaha
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On May 10 2015 03:33 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:32 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote: so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Ehhh. It was. That was because the game hadn't matured yet. The later Naniwa/Scarlett/Snute accomplishments are more impressive than Mr 200/200 Roach into BL/Infestor (which isn't to say that Stephano was totally terrible) Hahaha the grudges
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On May 10 2015 03:33 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:32 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote: so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Ehhh. then he went to Korea and lost to a marine all-in from Bogus. Great day it was. More satisfying than winning gsl for me.
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On May 10 2015 03:33 spoonmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote: so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point Honestly I feel like having good coaches really makes a big difference. I felt like your results really improved overall after your stint with Coach Park. It's also a feature shown in other e-sports like LoL and CS:GO often times good coaches coming to new teams brings out the potential in a team's roster.
There are good coaches in CS:GO? I don't think so (I've played over 2k hours and watched years of cs since 1.6)
From my experience the only real good coaches I know of in esports are the Korean Broodwar Coaches and Some of the newer LoL coaches (also generally Korean.) Most of the lol coaches in lcs that I've seen seem a bit immature to be honest.
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Gumi will win, no doubt about that
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On May 10 2015 03:33 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote: so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Stephano didn't close the gap he simply stopped being something classified as a foreigner
It was not at a relevant period, but Jinro used to be at the same level as the Korean he fought against. Two top 4 GSL.
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On May 10 2015 03:33 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:32 Elentos wrote:On May 10 2015 03:31 dazed25 wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote: so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point start a PL type offline tournament in germany and france? Honestly a Proleague type thing with foreign teams might not be such a bad idea. With players living in United States, Russia, France, Mexico, etc I don't see how it's doable. Honestly, if they really want to become as good as the Koreans, they'll have to be ready to make concessions and live together. And then have one teamleague in EU and one in NA and finish it at the global finals.
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On May 10 2015 03:33 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote: so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Stephano didn't close the gap he simply stopped being something classified as a foreigner yeah and then he disappointed in GSL which is like the final test. however, I think sending foreigners to korea and let them fight in the fierce competition there should help individual people. to improve foreign level in general, let koreans come to foreignland and have fun. and don't cry if they win WCS titles then.
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On May 10 2015 03:34 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:33 Ej_ wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote: so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Ehhh. then he went to Korea and lost to a marine all-in from Bogus. Great day it was. it was hellions, no? bunch of 2fac hellion allins, that sick game on whirlwind. Oh and a 2rax? 4-1, with stephano taking akilon and INnoVation giving up on 200/200 because Stephano reached BL/Infestor? wasn't there a game on Whirlwind where Bogus rallied like 4rax marine from 2 bases 2 pixels above Stephano's overlord sight and Stephano just died?
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Australia18228 Posts
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TRUE winning the crowd with some Engrish.
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Great to see that the koreans are really trying to speak english
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On May 10 2015 03:35 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:35 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 10 2015 03:33 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote: so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Ehhh. It was. That was because the game hadn't matured yet. The later Naniwa/Scarlett/Snute accomplishments are more impressive than Mr 200/200 Roach into BL/Infestor (which isn't to say that Stephano was totally terrible) That's not counterargument. Besides, the game matured with stephano. He was both at korean skill level and innovated the game at the same time. Nah, not at all
Hope I'm not talking to a Stephano anti-fan here
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On May 10 2015 03:35 spoonmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:34 Larkin wrote:still depresses me that CS:GO is the leading fps I miss halo  As a former CS:S amateur player, I'm so happy CS is back. Too bad StarCraft has captivated me since Source died off. hahaha
I find it so dull
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On May 10 2015 03:35 Inflicted wrote: Gumi looks like mini-MC wow that's true!
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I promised my sword to TRUE before but I love lord gumiho as well. Whatever will this samurai do?!
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On May 10 2015 03:34 Larkin wrote:still depresses me that CS:GO is the leading fps I miss halo  I miss Quake
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On May 10 2015 03:33 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:32 Elentos wrote:On May 10 2015 03:31 dazed25 wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote: so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point start a PL type offline tournament in germany and france? Honestly a Proleague type thing with foreign teams might not be such a bad idea. With players living in United States, Russia, France, Mexico, etc I don't see how it's doable. this is pointless
we lack the culture of esport that korean have
take a look at NA LCS and EU LCS on league of legends, they all play offline at the same area and they still get wreck by korean and china
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