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On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo.
Scarlett too
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On May 10 2015 03:32 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:32 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 10 2015 03:31 GumBa wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 Ej_ wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point it's simple. buy a time machine and prevent Kespa from ever being created That's the plot of the next terminator movie. starring innovation? Starring Jin Air Terminator, obviously.
hahahaha
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On May 10 2015 03:32 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Ehhh.
It was.
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On May 10 2015 03:29 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:28 opisska wrote:On May 10 2015 03:26 HellHound wrote:On May 10 2015 03:25 opisska wrote:On May 10 2015 03:23 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 10 2015 03:22 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:13 Big J wrote:
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They're just gonna slowly back off on warpgate changes, ravager availability and eco changes and it's all going to stay the same. Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic. Stating the truth Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time? Not expecting changes is part of the "being realistic" part. And it is optimistic on top of it, because the things most of the people here want changed are those I like the most anyway, so no change is probably for the best (as change into something other equally awesome seems unlikely, because everyone just wants a boring balanced "esport"). I understood what you mean but I despise your wording  If you are a native speaker, I won't say no to a short lesson, so please show me how to word that properly. If you are actually Bulgarian, you should have understood it easily, because most of problem with the wording is that the sentence structure is one big Czechism. Way to be condescending
I would probably need a lesson on this one as well, because I meant it in a completely friendly way - that is, if the guy despises my wording because he knows better, I would really like to know how to say that better, because I can see that the post is not very readable, but I am not sure how to fix that. In paralell I was wondering that it struck him as weird if he is Bulgarian, because I think most of the comprehensibility issues stems from me being born in a Slavic country, as our languages have a completely reversed syntactical structure - and I see many colleagues writing weird stuff in English, but I don't have problems understanding it usually, because it is "wrong in a natural way".
edit: and it turns out that I did not even understand him correctly anyway.
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On May 10 2015 03:32 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:32 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 10 2015 03:31 GumBa wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 Ej_ wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point it's simple. buy a time machine and prevent Kespa from ever being created That's the plot of the next terminator movie. starring innovation? Starring Jin Air Terminator, obviously.
zing!
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On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo.
Stephano didn't close the gap he simply stopped being something classified as a foreigner
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On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo.
Only one is not as whole.
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On May 10 2015 03:32 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Ehhh.
then he went to Korea and lost to a marine all-in from Bogus. Great day it was.
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hihi
the results look so boring
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On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point
Honestly I feel like having good coaches really makes a big difference. I felt like your results really improved overall after your stint with Coach Park.
It's also a feature shown in other e-sports like LoL and CS:GO often times good coaches coming to new teams brings out the potential in a team's roster.
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On May 10 2015 03:32 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:31 dazed25 wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point start a PL type offline tournament in germany and france? Honestly a Proleague type thing with foreign teams might not be such a bad idea.
With players living in United States, Russia, France, Mexico, etc I don't see how it's doable.
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On May 10 2015 03:32 cheekymonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:32 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Ehhh. It was.
That was because the game hadn't matured yet. The later Naniwa/Scarlett/Snute accomplishments are more impressive than Mr 200/200 Roach into BL/Infestor (which isn't to say that Stephano was totally terrible)
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On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point
im starting to lean toward they just have a better atmosphere in training. The best foreigner's including yourself just seem to lack in that area.
Edit: not saying you dont have the skills to beat anyone of them but the training they get just seems to be better for whatever reason
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On May 10 2015 03:32 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:29 GumBa wrote:On May 10 2015 03:28 opisska wrote:On May 10 2015 03:26 HellHound wrote:On May 10 2015 03:25 opisska wrote:On May 10 2015 03:23 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 10 2015 03:22 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:
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Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic. Stating the truth Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time? Not expecting changes is part of the "being realistic" part. And it is optimistic on top of it, because the things most of the people here want changed are those I like the most anyway, so no change is probably for the best (as change into something other equally awesome seems unlikely, because everyone just wants a boring balanced "esport"). I understood what you mean but I despise your wording If you are a native speaker, I won't say no to a short lesson, so please show me how to word that properly. If you are actually Bulgarian, you should have understood it easily, because most of problem with the wording is that the sentence structure is one big Czechism. Way to be condescending I would probably need a lesson on this one as well, because I meant it in a completely friendly way - that is, if the guy despises my wording because he knows better, I would really like to know how to say that better, because I can see that the post is not very readable, but I am not sure how to fix that. In paralell I was wondering that it struck him as weird if he is Bulgarian, because I think most of the comprehensibility issues stems from me being born in a Slavic country, as our languages have a completely reversed syntactical structure - and I see many colleagues writing weird stuff in English, but I don't have problems understanding it usually, because it is "wrong in a natural way".
The way you put things doesnt come over as friendly, at least how you answered HellHound seemed it.
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On May 10 2015 03:32 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:29 GumBa wrote:On May 10 2015 03:28 opisska wrote:On May 10 2015 03:26 HellHound wrote:On May 10 2015 03:25 opisska wrote:On May 10 2015 03:23 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 10 2015 03:22 Wildmoon wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On May 10 2015 03:17 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:14 Wildmoon wrote:
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Let's talk about being extremely pessimistic. Stating the truth Being realistic about the bad state of hte game is being pessimistic, don't you know? Everything is sunshine and rainbows right now /s Because you can't acknowledge the problems and not being so pessimistic to the point that you don't expect anything to change at the same time? Not expecting changes is part of the "being realistic" part. And it is optimistic on top of it, because the things most of the people here want changed are those I like the most anyway, so no change is probably for the best (as change into something other equally awesome seems unlikely, because everyone just wants a boring balanced "esport"). I understood what you mean but I despise your wording If you are a native speaker, I won't say no to a short lesson, so please show me how to word that properly. If you are actually Bulgarian, you should have understood it easily, because most of problem with the wording is that the sentence structure is one big Czechism. Way to be condescending I w + Show Spoiler +ould probably need a lesson on this one as well, because I meant it in a completely friendly way - that is, if the guy despises my wording because he knows better, I would really like to know how to say that better, because I can see that the post is not very readable, but I am not sure how to fix that. In paralell I was wondering that it struck him as weird if he is Bulgarian, because I think most of the comprehensibility issues stems from me being born in a Slavic country, as our languages have a completely reversed syntactical structure - and I see many colleagues writing weird stuff in English, but I don't have problems understanding it usually, because it is "wrong in a natural way" . Don't take what I say too seriously is something I should add to my sig.
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Elentos
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Wax is back! Praise the Liquid bias!
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still depresses me that CS:GO is the leading fps
I miss halo 
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On May 10 2015 03:33 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:32 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Ehhh. then he went to Korea and lost to a marine all-in from Bogus. Great day it was.
it was hellions, no? bunch of 2fac hellion allins, that sick game on whirlwind. Oh and a 2rax? 4-1, with stephano taking akilon and INnoVation giving up on 200/200 because Stephano reached BL/Infestor?
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On May 10 2015 03:34 Larkin wrote:still depresses me that CS:GO is the leading fps I miss halo
lol halo
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On May 10 2015 03:33 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:32 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Ehhh. It was. That was because the game hadn't matured yet. The later Naniwa/Scarlett/Snute accomplishments are more impressive than Mr 200/200 Roach into BL/Infestor (which isn't to say that Stephano was totally terrible)
That's not counterargument. Besides, the game matured with stephano. He was both at korean skill level and innovated the game at the same time.
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