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As of page 39, matchfixing discussion is banned from this thread. Please keep that discussion in the relevant thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/483048-pinnacle-voids-soulkey-vs-creator-bets
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
April 15 2015 12:46 GMT
#741
On April 15 2015 21:45 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:45 royalroadweed wrote:
3-0 incoming boys. Prime now has 2 Code S players.

If only Creator hadn't lost the 2nd map.

typo. I was hoping no one would notice T_T
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 15 2015 12:46 GMT
#742
On April 15 2015 21:46 Wintex wrote:
STOP discussing match fixing in this thread. This is a live report thread. You are literally just making this into a second pinnacle thread and ruining it for people that want to discuss the games and have a good time or people that are in a position where they can only read about the game, but not view.

This is a forum, and multiple threads can be opened here.

Added one thing but this!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
April 15 2015 12:46 GMT
#743
On April 15 2015 21:44 DJHelium wrote:

Cool
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
April 15 2015 12:46 GMT
#744
Let's look at the bright side, Code A LR thread is alive again.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 15 2015 12:47 GMT
#745
Soulkey about to get the Supernova award instead? ;;
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 15 2015 12:47 GMT
#746
On April 15 2015 21:46 Lorning wrote:
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On April 15 2015 21:46 GumBa wrote:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOORNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING

Yes?

PRIIIIIIIIIME HYYYYYYYYYYYPEEEEEEEEEEE
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
April 15 2015 12:47 GMT
#747
On April 15 2015 21:46 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:45 Elentos wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:45 royalroadweed wrote:
3-0 incoming boys. Prime now has 2 Code S players.

If only Creator hadn't lost the 2nd map.

typo. I was hoping no one would notice T_T

I'm German, you were totally out of luck on that one .
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 15 2015 12:47 GMT
#748
On April 15 2015 21:44 DJHelium wrote:
https://twitter.com/SC2MVP/status/588321874402246658

Well I mean I don't trust their meaning of "today" anymore d:
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 15 2015 12:47 GMT
#749
On April 15 2015 21:46 Nirel wrote:
Let's look at the bright side, Code A LR thread is alive again.

But at what cost.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 15 2015 12:47 GMT
#750
On April 15 2015 21:47 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:46 Lorning wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:46 GumBa wrote:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOORNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING

Yes?

PRIIIIIIIIIME HYYYYYYYYYYYPEEEEEEEEEEE

SQUUUEEEEEEEE
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 15 2015 12:48 GMT
#751
On April 15 2015 21:46 Wintex wrote:
STOP discussing match fixing in this thread. This is a live report thread. You are literally just making this into a second pinnacle thread and ruining it for people that want to discuss the games or people that are in a position where they can only read about the game, but not view.

This is a forum, and multiple threads can be opened here.

Tell that the moderators who close thread after thread about this matchfixing thing
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 15 2015 12:48 GMT
#752
On April 15 2015 21:47 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:46 Lorning wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:46 GumBa wrote:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOORNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING

Yes?

PRIIIIIIIIIME HYYYYYYYYYYYPEEEEEEEEEEE

PRIIIIIIIIIIIIME HYYYYYYYYYYYPEEEEEEEEEEE CREATOOOOOOOOOOOR PRIIIIIIIIIIME
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 15 2015 12:48 GMT
#753
wtf is this candy thing.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 15 2015 12:48 GMT
#754
On April 15 2015 21:47 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:44 DJHelium wrote:
https://twitter.com/SC2MVP/status/588321874402246658

Well I mean I don't trust their meaning of "today" anymore d:

"today" is the day when no one speaks about it anymore. simple.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
April 15 2015 12:48 GMT
#755
On April 15 2015 21:46 Nirel wrote:
Let's look at the bright side, Code A LR thread is alive again.

woo, being alive with a malignant tumor is so much fun.

come on soulkey
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 15 2015 12:48 GMT
#756
On April 15 2015 21:46 Swoopae wrote:
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On April 15 2015 21:44 lichter wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:41 Swoopae wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:41 OtherWorld wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:40 KristofferAG wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:39 DJHelium wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:37 lamehater wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:34 Swoopae wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:27 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Stop throwing around accusations like "Soulkey is matchfixing!:" without actual fucking proof.

No, saying "But the betting patterns were TOTALLY suspicious!" is NOT sufficient proof to outright accuse a player of matchfixing.


We have proof. If you don't understand the proof, that's your problem.


It's circumstantial evidence and not direct evidence. You need a lot of it to judge someone. I'm not saying that the accusations are incorrect, but the situation can undoubtedly be argued. Soulkey matchfixing isn't an absolute fact, it's just a possibility still.


Would be nice if any tournament organizer, team OR Blizzard said anything about it then. Like "we're investigating" or "we've seen proof it's nothing".

The total silence makes me think they all know it's going on, but no-one wants to say anything because it might hurt the scene.

The problem is that eventually it will not only hurt it, but destroy the Korean Starcraft 2 scene.

Has this sort of thing been happening a lot lately? I haven't really been following for... a couple of years.


:|

Yeah voided bets are at... 5? 6? since the beginning of the year iirc. Swoopae confirmation? d:


San, Marineking, Super Map 1, Innovation Map 1 and Soulkey today to my knowledge

Additionally some of us believe Yoda v Bunny was fixed and a couple of other suspicious games


you should also keep track of the suspicious activity that didn't pan out, just so data is complete


The one case that occurred was Terror vs Byul and the steam was much, much smaller (Terror became a very small favourite). I suspect that was the match fixers trying to throw Pinnacle's algorithm off but can't confirm anything.

TeamLiquid should request another interview with Pinnacle, they answered my tweet just a few minutes ago. Their fraud prevention team could answer questions with more complete information than I could.


there's really nothing left to ask pinnacle that isn't already known or that they would answer. perhaps once MVP make their statement kespa will be more willing to answer. if you have any specific or enlightening questions (that aren't leading) you can PM me and we can try to ask them if we can get them to do a useful interview
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
April 15 2015 12:48 GMT
#757
On April 15 2015 21:46 Wintex wrote:
STOP discussing match fixing in this thread. This is a live report thread. You are literally just making this into a second pinnacle thread and ruining it for people that want to discuss the games or people that are in a position where they can only read about the game, but not view.

This is a forum, and multiple threads can be opened here.

ostrich mode activated

as if lr threads are only allowed to go off topic for funny stuff
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 15 2015 12:48 GMT
#758
On April 15 2015 21:47 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:46 royalroadweed wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:45 Elentos wrote:
On April 15 2015 21:45 royalroadweed wrote:
3-0 incoming boys. Prime now has 2 Code S players.

If only Creator hadn't lost the 2nd map.

typo. I was hoping no one would notice T_T

I'm German, you were totally out of luck on that one .

Can confirm we germans even call Elentos incredibly German due to his eye for counting accuracy and beuracratic skills.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 15 2015 12:49 GMT
#759
On April 15 2015 21:48 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 21:46 Wintex wrote:
STOP discussing match fixing in this thread. This is a live report thread. You are literally just making this into a second pinnacle thread and ruining it for people that want to discuss the games or people that are in a position where they can only read about the game, but not view.

This is a forum, and multiple threads can be opened here.

ostrich mode activated

as if lr threads are only allowed to go off topic for funny stuff

There is a specific thread for this discussion thoiugh
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
April 15 2015 12:49 GMT
#760
This song is okay-ish, but if the one before plays one more time today, I'll have to go find a wall to smash in with my head.
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