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On March 30 2015 19:57 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 19:56 dala wrote:
"We need a sponsor"? How long have ST been without a title sponsor? Are they a true KeSPA team or just an affiliate? Approximately all round 2, maybe since Life left actually.
So maybe they were forced to sell Life to pay the bills? That is so sad. Hope they can attract a new sponsor soon.
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On March 30 2015 20:07 dala wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 19:57 Elentos wrote:On March 30 2015 19:56 dala wrote:
"We need a sponsor"? How long have ST been without a title sponsor? Are they a true KeSPA team or just an affiliate? Approximately all round 2, maybe since Life left actually. So maybe they were forced to sell Life to pay the bills? That is so sad. Hope they can attract a new sponsor soon.
I think his contract expired. But maybe the sponsors left with him? Who knows.
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On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt  I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something.
I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right?
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herO and Canata are both such big cuties
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On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right?
Not really. Only during big championships with friends. And curling during the olympics.
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LastShadow finally broke through, I remember him from early on in SC2.
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On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right?
Pls don't do this Otherworld, people are just expressing their worries.
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Well done herO, my fpl captain 
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Sucks for ST-y that their best player can't get fielded in SPL <.<. Would have loved to see PartinG vs herO.
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On March 30 2015 20:11 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right? Not really. Only during big championships with friends. And curling during the olympics.
I dunno enough about curling to comment :D but when you're watching athletes like runners during the Olympics, or when you're watching Germany vs Argentina in the World Cup finals, what guarantee do you have that they aren't doped? None. Does it lessens you enjoyment of the game?
On March 30 2015 20:11 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right? Pls don't do this Otherworld, people are just expressing their worries.
I know, I know, and I can understand them.
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On March 30 2015 20:13 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 20:11 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right? Not really. Only during big championships with friends. And curling during the olympics. I dunno enough about curling to comment :D but when you're watching athletes like runners during the Olympics, or when you're watching Germany vs Argentina in the World Cup finals, what guarantee do you have that they aren't doped? None. Does it lessens you enjoyment of the game? Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 20:11 Penev wrote:On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right? Pls don't do this Otherworld, people are just expressing their worries. I know, I know, and I can understand them.
Too compare with all the TdF victories of Lance Armstrong - I did not know anything about that then and I enjoyed watching. If I see a cyclist who is super overpowered these days I am immediately suspicious and it decreases my enjoyment indeed. But I still like to watch cycling though.
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On March 30 2015 20:13 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 20:11 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right? Not really. Only during big championships with friends. And curling during the olympics. I dunno enough about curling to comment :D but when you're watching athletes like runners during the Olympics, or when you're watching Germany vs Argentina in the World Cup finals, what guarantee do you have that they aren't doped? None. Does it lessens you enjoyment of the game? Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 20:11 Penev wrote:On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right? Pls don't do this Otherworld, people are just expressing their worries. I know, I know, and I can understand them.
I'm sure it would if I was more emotionally invested. When watching football for example, the fun part is hanging out with my friends at the bar.
Actually if I knew or suspected people were doped, I think for sure it would make it less entertaining for me.
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That was the Spore death sound from Ragnarok Online
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On March 30 2015 20:16 Ketch wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 20:13 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:11 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right? Not really. Only during big championships with friends. And curling during the olympics. I dunno enough about curling to comment :D but when you're watching athletes like runners during the Olympics, or when you're watching Germany vs Argentina in the World Cup finals, what guarantee do you have that they aren't doped? None. Does it lessens you enjoyment of the game? On March 30 2015 20:11 Penev wrote:On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right? Pls don't do this Otherworld, people are just expressing their worries. I know, I know, and I can understand them. Too compare with all the TdF victories of Lance Armstrong - I did not know anything about that then and I enjoyed watching. If I see a cyclist who is super overpowered these days I am immediately suspicious and it decreases my enjoyment indeed. But I still like to watch cycling though.
I think that's a good comparison, and that's probably why the worst possible thing to happen would be no reaction from competent authorities. But as you say yourself, it's about "super overpowered" sportsmen, which would translate in SC2 as huge, huge blunders (like MK's game). I don't think it's productive to suspect San here because he made a mistake that, while big, can happen.
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tbh, with all the allegations going on right now you would have to be a complete idiot (or under really severe pressure) to still throw a match
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On March 30 2015 20:22 seom wrote:
tbh, with all the allegations going on right now you would have to be a complete idiot (or under really severe pressure) to still throw a match
Good point but what if you just really the money.
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On March 30 2015 20:13 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 20:11 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right? Not really. Only during big championships with friends. And curling during the olympics. I dunno enough about curling to comment :D but when you're watching athletes like runners during the Olympics, or when you're watching Germany vs Argentina in the World Cup finals, what guarantee do you have that they aren't doped? None. Does it lessens you enjoyment of the game? Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 20:11 Penev wrote:On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right? Pls don't do this Otherworld, people are just expressing their worries. I know, I know, and I can understand them.
If another game was found to be likely to be fixed, then yeah, that would detract from my enjoyment.
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On March 30 2015 20:35 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 20:13 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:11 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right? Not really. Only during big championships with friends. And curling during the olympics. I dunno enough about curling to comment :D but when you're watching athletes like runners during the Olympics, or when you're watching Germany vs Argentina in the World Cup finals, what guarantee do you have that they aren't doped? None. Does it lessens you enjoyment of the game? On March 30 2015 20:11 Penev wrote:On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right? Pls don't do this Otherworld, people are just expressing their worries. I know, I know, and I can understand them. If another game was found to be likely to be fixed, then yeah, that would detract from my enjoyment.
Well, there has been a certain number of athletes convinced of doping over the last few years^^
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On March 30 2015 20:37 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 20:35 nkr wrote:On March 30 2015 20:13 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:11 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right? Not really. Only during big championships with friends. And curling during the olympics. I dunno enough about curling to comment :D but when you're watching athletes like runners during the Olympics, or when you're watching Germany vs Argentina in the World Cup finals, what guarantee do you have that they aren't doped? None. Does it lessens you enjoyment of the game? On March 30 2015 20:11 Penev wrote:On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right? Pls don't do this Otherworld, people are just expressing their worries. I know, I know, and I can understand them. If another game was found to be likely to be fixed, then yeah, that would detract from my enjoyment. Well, there has been a certain number of athletes convinced of doping over the last few years^^
Not in any sport I enjoy watching. I don't watch cycling for that very reason. Also, using "hey people cheat in other sports too!" as an argument isn't really going to win anyone over.
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On March 30 2015 20:37 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 20:35 nkr wrote:On March 30 2015 20:13 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:11 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right? Not really. Only during big championships with friends. And curling during the olympics. I dunno enough about curling to comment :D but when you're watching athletes like runners during the Olympics, or when you're watching Germany vs Argentina in the World Cup finals, what guarantee do you have that they aren't doped? None. Does it lessens you enjoyment of the game? On March 30 2015 20:11 Penev wrote:On March 30 2015 20:10 OtherWorld wrote:On March 30 2015 20:07 DJHelium wrote:On March 30 2015 20:04 Ketch wrote:On March 30 2015 20:03 Cokefreak wrote:On March 30 2015 20:02 nkr wrote:With all the rumours going on in korea, some of these matches leave me feelings of doubt I know right Yeah ..... too bad we are doubting every mistake now Same here. Especially since San was one of the suspected players. Really makes the games less enjoyable for me. I know it's stupid. Really wish Blizz/Kespa would say something. I hate to say this, but I guess you watch some traditional sports as well, right? Pls don't do this Otherworld, people are just expressing their worries. I know, I know, and I can understand them. If another game was found to be likely to be fixed, then yeah, that would detract from my enjoyment. Well, there has been a certain number of athletes convinced of doping over the last few years^^
matchfixing and doping happens in every single sport - of that I am sure of
Most just don't get caught.
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