the game is balanced but it doesn't make zerg any less depressing.

hopefully I can watch the dark vods vs maru/taeja tonight so I don't end up killing myself.

ubikz

69 Posts

March 14 2015 20:57 GMT

#4083

I think one of the big things about Life is that, despite his slumps, he has been great since 2012, and now is by far the best zerg out there, he is now better than never before.

KingofdaHipHop

United States25602 Posts

March 14 2015 20:57 GMT

#4084

On March 15 2015 05:56 royalroadweed wrote:

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He did win 2 MSLs and 3 OSLs.

yeah i wasnt around then, he was supposed to ascend to god level in both games.

OsaX Nymloth

Poland3244 Posts

March 14 2015 20:57 GMT

#4085

Polish crowd best crowd

lastride

2390 Posts

March 14 2015 20:57 GMT

#4086

Sc2>LoL confirmed

HellHound

Bulgaria5962 Posts

March 14 2015 20:57 GMT

#4087

All zergs leaving to deal with their salt overdose.

Weavel

Finland9223 Posts

March 14 2015 20:57 GMT

#4088

Starcraft chant <3

Olli

Austria24422 Posts

March 14 2015 20:57 GMT

#4089

Wow, the crowd chanting Starcraft. Guys, I think we might be popular in Poland.

rednusa

651 Posts

March 14 2015 20:57 GMT

#4090

Bbyong fighting!

Jazzman88

Canada2228 Posts

March 14 2015 20:57 GMT

#4091

On March 15 2015 05:56 KelsierSC wrote:
the game is balanced but it doesn't make zerg any less depressing.

hopefully I can watch the dark vods vs maru/taeja tonight so I don't end up killing myself.

Um, are you doing okay? Seems a bit extreme for having Dark get knocked out.

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

March 14 2015 20:57 GMT

#4092

On March 15 2015 05:56 Cricketer12 wrote:

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traitor where the fuck did the Jin Air love come from?

Jin Air sOs is why I'm a fan

FrostedMiniWheats

United States30730 Posts

March 14 2015 20:57 GMT

#4093

You just might. Dark's ZvT looked so good he probably would've won 3-0 against Fantasy.

Fantasy really, really shouldn't have lost g5 vs Trap either..

KeksX

Germany3634 Posts

March 14 2015 20:57 GMT

#4094

On March 15 2015 05:53 Jazzman88 wrote:

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On March 15 2015 05:52 KeksX wrote:

On March 15 2015 05:51 Jazzman88 wrote:

On March 15 2015 05:50 KeksX wrote:

On March 15 2015 05:47 Nebuchad wrote:

On March 15 2015 05:43 KeksX wrote:

On March 15 2015 05:42 Nebuchad wrote:

On March 15 2015 05:40 KeksX wrote:

On March 15 2015 05:38 Nebuchad wrote:

On March 15 2015 05:32 KeksX wrote:
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To be fair he raises a good point. Nobody gets that upset about a Terran or Zerg winning, but when Protoss wins like that everyone loses their mind...

It's not news that every time protoss wins a game someone has something to say. We're used to it.

There's definitely a pattern, though. If you ask people about balance and design things, Protoss is the first thing to talk about. Not only about "Protoss so imba, pls nerf", but also "the only viable way to win as Protoss is to do stuff like X".

The thing is, outside of tournaments, people don't really see a reason to talk about it.

You act like people are rational about it. They will see a terran win a game with a drop when the toss is out of position, and scream "amazing game sense to drop now". The next game a protoss forcefields a ramp when the zerg is unprepared, and they're like "that's bullshit".

Thats why I brought in the point that in discussions like the ones for LotV, people still bring up the same points that people raise to balance whine in here.

That doesn't really happen to Terran and Zerg, their complaints are way more in line of "We need to balance economy", but for Protoss it's all about "remove X, remove Y, remove Z". With Colossi, Forcefields and Warp Gate tech being the most common ones.

Why should that make a difference when the complaints aren't rational?

Ok, to summarize my point:

Protoss complaints in a rational discussion topic("LotV Multiplayer Update" etc) are almost exactly the same people use to balance whine in tournament threads.

Terran and Zerg complaints in a rtional discussion topic are, most of the time, completely different from balance whine in tournament threads.

That really reads to me like confirmation bias. Is there actual data to back that up aside from 'the balance discussions that I have frequented'?

Yes, in fact I have spent the last 3 weeks gathering data in this completely arbitrary point I raised to explain my feelings of this forum.

Sorry, no. If you feel like thats wrong, fine. I just wanted to make that point.

Heh. Touché, good gentleperson.

It's good that you brought it up, though. I'm not claiming that this is the one and only truth, but as someone who at least reads almost all the discussions on design, especially for LotV, those are my feelings towards that whole debate and I find it curious how it actually plays out.

But anyway, time for some TvP!

SmoKim

Denmark10305 Posts

March 14 2015 20:58 GMT

#4095

I love Poland ESPORTS