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Cut down on the balance/design whining please.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
March 14 2015 20:25 GMT
#3901
On March 15 2015 05:25 Jazzman88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 05:24 royalroadweed wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
COME ON ZEST, GIVE US THE PVP FINALS WE DESERVE

Your heart is blacker than your turtleneck.


And then both players proxy 2 gate each other 3 games in a row before going full Has cannon rush in game 4. Trap wins.

I feel like there would be a game in which they relocate to each others thirds and went for tempest rushes
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
b3nd3r
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany158 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-14 20:27:47
March 14 2015 20:26 GMT
#3902
I keep my fingers crossed for Bbyong, please no PvP finals.

PS: Sorry, I will never use any twitch memes again, I promise.
Sweet photons. I don't know if you're waves or particles, but you go down smooth.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12542 Posts
March 14 2015 20:26 GMT
#3903
On March 15 2015 05:25 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 05:23 Elentos wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:23 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
COME ON ZEST, GIVE US THE PVP FINALS WE DESERVE


What...what are you?

A Protoss player <.<

Im offended, do you think we are all insane?


We shouldn't give in to peer pressure like that, our mirror is no less shitty than theirs. Rise your heads!
No will to live, no wish to die
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 14 2015 20:26 GMT
#3904
On March 15 2015 05:25 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 05:23 boxerfred wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:22 Elentos wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:20 boxerfred wrote:
Trap had the easiest way to the finals though IMO. Really cheering for the winner of Bbyong/Zest now.

Dark is really strong, he crushed Maru. Fantasy looked on point in this tournament and made Rain look like a noob. And Flash only barely lost to him. Probably wasn't as easy as you think.

"easiest" means "in comparison to the rest". The first really hard opponent was Dark, and if I read the comments correctly, he just went full Book?

"In comparison to the rest" is a comparison by name only, not by what actually happened. Trap struggled against all his opponents, Bbyong crushed all his so far under foot.

You're right, but how does that disprove my point now, assuming that's what you're trying to do?
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-14 20:26:37
March 14 2015 20:26 GMT
#3905
On March 15 2015 05:25 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 05:23 boxerfred wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:22 Elentos wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:20 boxerfred wrote:
Trap had the easiest way to the finals though IMO. Really cheering for the winner of Bbyong/Zest now.

Dark is really strong, he crushed Maru. Fantasy looked on point in this tournament and made Rain look like a noob. And Flash only barely lost to him. Probably wasn't as easy as you think.

"easiest" means "in comparison to the rest". The first really hard opponent was Dark, and if I read the comments correctly, he just went full Book?


I figured the winner of Dark/Maru would reach the final. So wrong:o!


I feel like the skills it takes to be a good ZvT player are different from what it takes to be a good ZvP skill player. First skill thats different: play Swarm Hosts.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
March 14 2015 20:26 GMT
#3906
On March 15 2015 05:24 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 05:23 Elentos wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:20 Elentos wrote:
Actually, if Zest reached the finals against Trap, who would upset people more by winning? <.<

i'd be pissed if zest won

SKT bias doesn't count <.<

what's that supposed to mean

You don't like Zest so you'd be against him no matter who he plays against.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 14 2015 20:26 GMT
#3907
On March 15 2015 05:24 dyDrawer wrote:
I said it from the start to all those people predicting Flash 3-1 Trap: underestimate this guy at your own peril.

This guy only costed 3 at the beginning of this round of FPL. It's probably the biggest friggin steal we've had in ages.

I said it at the beginning too.
"Trap will win this whole tournament. And you know how it will be?
Glorious."
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 14 2015 20:27 GMT
#3908
Save us Bbyongjwa.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 14 2015 20:27 GMT
#3909
On March 15 2015 05:26 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 05:24 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:23 Elentos wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:22 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:20 Elentos wrote:
Actually, if Zest reached the finals against Trap, who would upset people more by winning? <.<

i'd be pissed if zest won

SKT bias doesn't count <.<

what's that supposed to mean

You don't like Zest so you'd be against him no matter who he plays against.

that doesn't change anything tho :>
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
March 14 2015 20:27 GMT
#3910
On March 15 2015 05:25 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 05:23 boxerfred wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:22 Elentos wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:20 boxerfred wrote:
Trap had the easiest way to the finals though IMO. Really cheering for the winner of Bbyong/Zest now.

Dark is really strong, he crushed Maru. Fantasy looked on point in this tournament and made Rain look like a noob. And Flash only barely lost to him. Probably wasn't as easy as you think.

"easiest" means "in comparison to the rest". The first really hard opponent was Dark, and if I read the comments correctly, he just went full Book?


I figured the winner of Dark/Maru would reach the final. So wrong:o!

from the start I had picked Trap to make it to finals (although i had also picked TaeJa > Dark sooo yea.... i did predict him to beat maru when he beat taeja though)
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
March 14 2015 20:27 GMT
#3911
On March 15 2015 05:25 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 05:23 Elentos wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:23 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
COME ON ZEST, GIVE US THE PVP FINALS WE DESERVE


What...what are you?

A Protoss player <.<

Im offended, do you think we are all insane?

I'm Terran, and I have fun watching PvP <.<
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
941 Posts
March 14 2015 20:27 GMT
#3912
Wow Trap killed all the favorites in his way to the finals again... He is now worse than Sniper and Satan.

Plz Bbyong save us from PvP finals...
:3
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
March 14 2015 20:27 GMT
#3913
On March 15 2015 05:26 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 05:24 dyDrawer wrote:
I said it from the start to all those people predicting Flash 3-1 Trap: underestimate this guy at your own peril.

This guy only costed 3 at the beginning of this round of FPL. It's probably the biggest friggin steal we've had in ages.

I said it at the beginning too.
"Trap will win this whole tournament. And you know how it will be?
Glorious."


Goddammit OtherWorld, you're responsible for this mess. I think I've said that to you for exactly this reason before. I shall find you on ladder and have my revenge.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
March 14 2015 20:28 GMT
#3914
lelelelel.
If you don't want to actually engage the enemy create a wall that prevents his army to do anything.

Forcefields must be the most hated spell in the game :D

I seriously doubt the designer who made it was sane, as it can't be a good Idea to make a game that is about war and strategy and then invent a spell that makes you win without war and strategy (well if you count blocking units it could be called a valuable strategy).
I really don't get so many design decisions about protoss. The forcefileds, the colossus (as an easy to use, High-damage-output AOE unit that needs no skill, I always thought such units shouldn't exist) and the warpins. And the many allins and bullshit tactics possible around this.

They always make me hate the protoss race so much, I don't watch the games with toss anymore.
While I understand it takes skill to use all these abilities to the max, Blizzard knows from the very early days of sc2 that there is a lot of hate about all that and so many people are frustrated because of these abilities.

I don't understand why blizzard doesn't want to change that 2/3 of the players are frustrated with the game. Of course every race is a little bit frustrated about 1-2 things about the other race (Fungals or Widow Mines) but with protoss there are SO MANY things to get frustrated about. I really don't understand why that can't be changed. Propably because Protoss would be less a technical race and more a mechanical, but this would make playing and watching it more fun. Like: having more powerful gateway units but not being required to have so many powerful spells.

And yeah, I guess I am salty, since this guy killed 2 of my favorite terrans with bullshit and stuff that make me mad about toss (because they seem to be easier to execute than to defend against) and now also one of the best zergs.
Allins shouldn't be THAT strong, srsly. And from a failed allin in the beginning you shouldn't be able to come back like that.

And yeah, I do understand that Trap played phenomenal, he wouldn't be able to beat Flash, Fantasy and Dark if he didn't.
Still, I hate these abilities, I wished Trap showed some phenomenal macro games without all that stuff.

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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
March 14 2015 20:28 GMT
#3915
On March 15 2015 05:26 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 05:24 dyDrawer wrote:
I said it from the start to all those people predicting Flash 3-1 Trap: underestimate this guy at your own peril.

This guy only costed 3 at the beginning of this round of FPL. It's probably the biggest friggin steal we've had in ages.

I said it at the beginning too.
"Trap will win this whole tournament. And you know how it will be?
Glorious."

and I agreed with you, he must avenge curejwa
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
March 14 2015 20:28 GMT
#3916
BBYONG ISN'T USED TO SO MUCH PRESSURE GUYS

GO EASY ON HIM
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 14 2015 20:28 GMT
#3917
On March 15 2015 05:27 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 05:25 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:23 boxerfred wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:22 Elentos wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:20 boxerfred wrote:
Trap had the easiest way to the finals though IMO. Really cheering for the winner of Bbyong/Zest now.

Dark is really strong, he crushed Maru. Fantasy looked on point in this tournament and made Rain look like a noob. And Flash only barely lost to him. Probably wasn't as easy as you think.

"easiest" means "in comparison to the rest". The first really hard opponent was Dark, and if I read the comments correctly, he just went full Book?


I figured the winner of Dark/Maru would reach the final. So wrong:o!

from the start I had picked Trap to make it to finals (although i had also picked TaeJa > Dark sooo yea.... i did predict him to beat maru when he beat taeja though)

hipster predictions. try writing a power rank please.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 14 2015 20:28 GMT
#3918
On March 15 2015 05:24 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 05:22 Aeromi wrote:
On March 15 2015 05:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
COME ON ZEST, GIVE US THE PVP FINALS WE DESERVE

Reported for insanity.

there was only twice that PvP was amazing and that was MC v herO at blizzcon and HuK v Naniwa at MLG Winter Championships


I'm guessing you didn't see Zest vs sOs in proleague, or his games vs rain in GSL. The guy makes for great PvPs.

Also PvP is just a great matchup in general and I will work my dark magic to bombard everyone with PvP until you acknowledge it.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 14 2015 20:29 GMT
#3919
it's just fucking horrible being a zerg at the moment because it feels like you try your hardest to stay alive just so you can make swarm hosts because nothing else really works.

Zerg for Life
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
March 14 2015 20:29 GMT
#3920
Trap wins if he plays Zest.
Bbyong i think beats Trap if they meet.
Btw the prediction for the Top 4 before this started was Cure vs Innovation and Trap vs Maru
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