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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
March 12 2015 19:49 GMT
#41
On March 13 2015 04:39 geokilla wrote:
I don't understand how these players all have a positive win percentage. I have never seen a player with negative win percentage for some reason..

Look at the LR thread for day 1 - Fantasy has a below 50% winratio against Protoss in HotS.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
March 12 2015 19:52 GMT
#42
If Flash meets herO in the finals IEM's plan will have worked out perfectly
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
March 12 2015 19:53 GMT
#43
By the way, these matches are played on Friday 13th, I hope it's every player's lucky day.
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
March 12 2015 20:20 GMT
#44
Voted all Jin Air + Bbyong.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
March 12 2015 20:20 GMT
#45
On March 13 2015 04:40 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 04:39 geokilla wrote:
I don't understand how these players all have a positive win percentage. I have never seen a player with negative win percentage for some reason..


It's as if to qualify for this tournament you had to be at least good.


yeah the players with below 50% winrates don't make it through qualifiers.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 12 2015 20:23 GMT
#46
JINAIR BOYS
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
March 12 2015 20:25 GMT
#47
On March 13 2015 04:44 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 04:40 Elentos wrote:
On March 13 2015 04:40 Caihead wrote:
On March 13 2015 04:39 geokilla wrote:
I don't understand how these players all have a positive win percentage. I have never seen a player with negative win percentage for some reason..


It's as if to qualify for this tournament you had to be at least good.

Which is why there are no foreigners here, amirite?


When was the last time a foreigner qualified through online qualifiers for a tournament where Koreans wanted to go?

Targa and Mana for Gfinity in the last week?
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
March 12 2015 20:26 GMT
#48
GO BBYONG MY LOVE
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
March 12 2015 20:27 GMT
#49
Am I the only one HARDCORE rooting for Flash... solely on the fact... that he would play Fantasy!?!? :D

JUNG! MYUNG! HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!
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KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
March 12 2015 20:29 GMT
#50
Hype plane gonna soar tomorrow. Got faith in my Jin Air boys!
Flying on the Jin Air hype plane. Lets go Maru, Rogue, sOs and the handsome CJ herO
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17729 Posts
March 12 2015 20:29 GMT
#51
WCS Predictor 2015
IEM Katowice Day 2
+ Show Spoiler [Changes During This Tournament] +
(Simulation #1270 vs #1271)
Biggest Winners
kr FanTaSy went up by 10.35%, going from 20.92% to 31.27%
kr Dark went up by 9.48%, going from 37.15% to 46.63%
kr INnoVation went up by 8.4%, going from 69.76% to 78.16%
dk Bunny went up by 5.42%, going from 21.17% to 26.58%
kr Zest went up by 5.37%, going from 8.36% to 13.73%
de ShoWTimE went up by 2.53%, going from 10.99% to 13.52%
fi Welmu went up by 0.91%, going from 3.47% to 4.37%
+ Show Spoiler [More Winners] +

kr Terminator went up by 0.46%, going from 15.67% to 16.13%
kr PartinG went up by 0.22%, going from 95.18% to 95.4%
kr Heart went up by 0.2%, going from 1.07% to 1.27%
kr Jaedong went up by 0.16%, going from 1.93% to 2.09%
no TargA went up by 0.16%, going from 5.44% to 5.6%
kr jjakji went up by 0.12%, going from 0.55% to 0.67%


Biggest Losers
kr Rain went down by 17.08%, going from 59.87% to 42.8%
kr TaeJa went down by 8.72%, going from 22.1% to 13.38%
kr Hydra went down by 6.89%, going from 66.86% to 59.97%
no Snute went down by 2.66%, going from 42.61% to 39.95%
kr MMA went down by 1.82%, going from 37.58% to 35.76%
kr HyuN went down by 0.7%, going from 5.93% to 5.23%
au PiG went down by 0.55%, going from 11.29% to 10.74%
+ Show Spoiler [More Losers] +

tw Has went down by 0.51%, going from 3.04% to 2.52%
kr Stats went down by 0.4%, going from 44.11% to 43.71%
kr Polt went down by 0.32%, going from 34.21% to 33.89%
kr ForGG went down by 0.32%, going from 68.65% to 68.33%
mx MajOr went down by 0.29%, going from 8.29% to 7.99%
kr Super went down by 0.25%, going from 24.33% to 24.07%
kr Dream went down by 0.25%, going from 83.01% to 82.77%
fi Serral went down by 0.22%, going from 6.48% to 6.26%
kr sOs went down by 0.2%, going from 20.89% to 20.7%
kr Rogue went down by 0.19%, going from 64.9% to 64.71%
kr Solar went down by 0.18%, going from 41.57% to 41.39%
ca Kane went down by 0.15%, going from 4.28% to 4.13%
kr Dear went down by 0.15%, going from 36.63% to 36.48%
kr Bomber went down by 0.12%, going from 14.29% to 14.17%
ru Happy went down by 0.11%, going from 7.59% to 7.48%
kr Symbol went down by 0.11%, going from 1.23% to 1.12%
de TLO went down by 0.11%, going from 2.11% to 2.01%
kr Bbyong went down by 0.11%, going from 26.7% to 26.59%



kr Patience vs kr Maru in
in IEM Katowice round of 16.
kr Patience is at 3.54% Blizzcon Chances.
35.97% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 5.13%.
64.03% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 2.64%.
kr Maru is at 99.78% Blizzcon Chances.
64.03% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 99.96%.
35.97% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 99.46%.

kr Bbyong vs kr Solar in
in IEM Katowice round of 16.
kr Bbyong is at 26.59% Blizzcon Chances.
56.91% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 30.96%.
43.09% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 20.82%.
kr Solar is at 41.39% Blizzcon Chances.
43.09% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 53.19%.
56.91% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 32.46%.

kr herO vs kr Cure in
in IEM Katowice round of 16.
kr herO is at 99.69% Blizzcon Chances.
64.58% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 99.99%.
35.42% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 99.15%.
kr Cure is at 15.53% Blizzcon Chances.
35.42% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 20.93%.
64.58% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 12.58%.

kr Flash vs kr Trap in
in IEM Katowice round of 16.
kr Flash is at 11.69% Blizzcon Chances.
45.11% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 17.1%.
54.89% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 7.24%.
kr Trap is at 32.09% Blizzcon Chances.
54.89% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 37.35%.
45.11% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 25.69%.

IEM Katowice Winning Chances
kr INnoVation has a 20.81% chance to win
----going from 78.16% to 97.6% if they get 1st, or 81.81% if they get 2nd.
kr Maru has a 11.44% chance to win
----going from 99.78% to 100% if they get 1st, or 99.99% if they get 2nd.
kr Dark has a 11.09% chance to win
----going from 46.63% to 85.08% if they get 1st, or 53.78% if they get 2nd.
kr herO has a 10.42% chance to win
----going from 99.69% to 100% if they get 1st, or 100% if they get 2nd.
kr FanTaSy has a 10.31% chance to win
----going from 31.28% to 70.02% if they get 1st, or 37.05% if they get 2nd.
+ Show Spoiler [More Winning Chances] +

kr Trap has a 8.63% chance to win
----going from 32.09% to 64.55% if they get 1st, or 39.78% if they get 2nd.
kr Zest has a 6.75% chance to win
----going from 13.73% to 47.38% if they get 1st, or 18.05% if they get 2nd.
kr Bbyong has a 5.78% chance to win
----going from 26.59% to 65.55% if they get 1st, or 36.12% if they get 2nd.
kr Flash has a 4.52% chance to win
----going from 11.69% to 45.06% if they get 1st, or 20.08% if they get 2nd.
kr Solar has a 4.29% chance to win
----going from 41.39% to 89.47% if they get 1st, or 61.75% if they get 2nd.
kr Cure has a 4.22% chance to win
----going from 15.53% to 48.75% if they get 1st, or 23.59% if they get 2nd.
kr Patience has a 1.75% chance to win
----going from 3.54% to 25.24% if they get 1st, or 3.15% if they don't.

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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
March 12 2015 20:41 GMT
#52
On March 13 2015 04:48 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 04:46 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 13 2015 04:39 geokilla wrote:
I don't understand how these players all have a positive win percentage. I have never seen a player with negative win percentage for some reason..

How do you want a negative win percentage to be possible? O_o


Naniwa

Really though I think he's just talking about 50%

I am talking about 50% and under. Watching Proleague, GSL Code A, whatever, I don't think I've ever seen a player have below 50% win rate. Surely someone has a negative win percentage right?
kc2siq
Profile Joined April 2012
United States319 Posts
March 12 2015 20:42 GMT
#53
I want herO to win the tournament, but I got a lot of respect for Cure when he played all three qualifiers straight... damn tough choice
Byun, best player in the world!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
March 12 2015 20:44 GMT
#54
On March 13 2015 05:41 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 04:48 Caihead wrote:
On March 13 2015 04:46 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 13 2015 04:39 geokilla wrote:
I don't understand how these players all have a positive win percentage. I have never seen a player with negative win percentage for some reason..

How do you want a negative win percentage to be possible? O_o


Naniwa

Really though I think he's just talking about 50%

I am talking about 50% and under. Watching Proleague, GSL Code A, whatever, I don't think I've ever seen a player have below 50% win rate. Surely someone has a negative win percentage right?

A bunch of players in Proleague are in the negative, I think DeParture is like 1-9 in Proleague or something like that.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 12 2015 20:45 GMT
#55
Man I can't wait to see if Trap does a storm build
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 12 2015 20:46 GMT
#56
On March 13 2015 05:45 stuchiu wrote:
Man I can't wait to see if Trap does a storm build

is it legit if it works vs Flash?
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Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
March 12 2015 20:49 GMT
#57
On March 13 2015 05:46 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 05:45 stuchiu wrote:
Man I can't wait to see if Trap does a storm build

is it legit if it works vs Flash?

you don't even need warpgate vs flash
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
March 12 2015 20:49 GMT
#58
On March 13 2015 05:41 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 04:48 Caihead wrote:
On March 13 2015 04:46 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 13 2015 04:39 geokilla wrote:
I don't understand how these players all have a positive win percentage. I have never seen a player with negative win percentage for some reason..

How do you want a negative win percentage to be possible? O_o


Naniwa

Really though I think he's just talking about 50%

I am talking about 50% and under. Watching Proleague, GSL Code A, whatever, I don't think I've ever seen a player have below 50% win rate. Surely someone has a negative win percentage right?


Very often players with a sub 50% fade out of team league rotations and individual leagues so you don't notice them. When players with 50%+ get into a slump they also fade from the spotlight until they resurge with a win rate much higher than 50%. Most of the people with <50% for an extended period of time end up retiring or relegated to practice partner / b team though (cough fantasy cough flash).
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DuckloadBlackra
Profile Joined July 2011
225 Posts
March 12 2015 20:53 GMT
#59
On March 13 2015 04:38 OtherWorld wrote:
Trap will win this whole tournament. And do you know how it will be?
Glorious.


This. Can't believe 80% say Flash over Trap :O
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 12 2015 20:53 GMT
#60
On March 13 2015 05:41 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 04:48 Caihead wrote:
On March 13 2015 04:46 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 13 2015 04:39 geokilla wrote:
I don't understand how these players all have a positive win percentage. I have never seen a player with negative win percentage for some reason..

How do you want a negative win percentage to be possible? O_o


Naniwa

Really though I think he's just talking about 50%

I am talking about 50% and under. Watching Proleague, GSL Code A, whatever, I don't think I've ever seen a player have below 50% win rate. Surely someone has a negative win percentage right?

Solar 0-6 round 1 PL.
FlaSh 1-6 R1 PL.
EffOrt was like 0-6 last season before he murdered every Terran in his path in the R3 playoffs.
Only one player from Prime had a >50% WR in last season of PL. So actually there are a whole bunch of players with a <50% WR in ProLeague. Now in individual leagues it's seen less often, mostly because if you want to make it through a qualifier you have to beat at least 4 other players, which impacts your WR pretty significantly (and even more so with KR players since they don't play in many online cups).
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