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On March 03 2015 21:27 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 21:25 DJHelium wrote:On March 03 2015 21:24 Alchemik wrote:On March 03 2015 21:20 DJHelium wrote:
Is there any korean that has adapted Snute's ZvT going SH vs bio? the issue with the style is that you can only do it when you're ahead, and koreans just prefer to kill the other guy when they are ahead Why doesn't it work vs a somewhat passive terran like this? Mutas to defend drops and the pressure 4th with SH. Because the Korean Terran just kills you if you're transitioning into Swarmhosts, imo. It might work, if the Terran doesn't realize the transition, but as soon as he does, I think the Zerg's dead.
I dunno, the 6-8th rax are delayed so they can't put out as much pressure as usual. I asked Snute on twitter, hopefully he responds!
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On March 03 2015 21:27 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 21:26 SkrollK wrote:
There's no English stream for the Proleague ?
I'm a little bit confused atm. It's on the sidebar
Twitch one isn't?
Sidebar is where I always look for the stream..
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On March 03 2015 21:27 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 21:26 SkrollK wrote:
There's no English stream for the Proleague ?
I'm a little bit confused atm. It's on the sidebar
people just don't try to look at the sidebar.
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On March 03 2015 21:28 Ketch wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 21:27 sAsImre wrote:On March 03 2015 21:26 Ketch wrote:On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote:
That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting? Cure is doing this also I think Cure did 8 rax before 4th in most of his recent online TvZ that I watched. He macroes ultra well tho so he can get a quick 4th if he max quickly. You mean the series vs Snute? I only remember him as very passive in his opening and then tearing Snute apart later on. But it might have been with more rax focus
I remember some 3 marau/10rines prod which is the 8rax setup. Will have to check (and in the kung fu qualifier too there are Cure games, it is so good to get tons of Cure vods these days)
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Could this be another Flash win and KT loses?
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On March 03 2015 21:27 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 21:25 DJHelium wrote:On March 03 2015 21:24 Alchemik wrote:On March 03 2015 21:20 DJHelium wrote:
Is there any korean that has adapted Snute's ZvT going SH vs bio? the issue with the style is that you can only do it when you're ahead, and koreans just prefer to kill the other guy when they are ahead Why doesn't it work vs a somewhat passive terran like this? Mutas to defend drops and the pressure 4th with SH. Because the Korean Terran just kills you if you're transitioning into Swarmhosts, imo. It might work, if the Terran doesn't realize the transition, but as soon as he does, I think the Zerg's dead.
You can max and then transition. :D
When snute fails vs the magical korean terrans it cause he falls behind early on, if he enters the midgame on even footing he does well with the style.
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On March 03 2015 21:29 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 21:27 SC2Toastie wrote:On March 03 2015 21:24 sAsImre wrote:On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote:
That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting? It depends who you're playing, this style would be really risky against a Z that just makes 1bajillion banes. Is it though? As far as I can see, you'll have 1 marauder, 8 marines, 2 thors and 2 mines (or 4 mines, depending on shortly upgrades finishing) of production and a ton of sim city. I think you can quite easily hold a mass baneling YOLO move..? you delay quite a lot your prod so you can soak up the 1st wave but i'm not sure about the second. the 3marau prod helps quite a lot vs mass bane/low muta style (true does that all the time). Sure if you hold you're in a very good spot but it'd be risky. Depends of the maps etc of course 
It'll be interesting to keep an eye on this style for sure ^_^. Metagame shifts are the most exciting thing around!!
I love this game.
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On March 03 2015 21:29 Jono7272 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 21:27 Zealously wrote:On March 03 2015 21:26 SkrollK wrote:
There's no English stream for the Proleague ?
I'm a little bit confused atm. It's on the sidebar Twitch one isn't? Sidebar is where I always look for the stream..
"Organizations"
SC2 Proleague
and now also at Featured on Air again.
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Houston, we have a problem.
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I wonder if Bbyong will fly to the gold base once this round
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I don't like Vaani cause of how you can't attack as Zerg on this map
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On March 03 2015 21:30 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 21:27 Swisslink wrote:On March 03 2015 21:25 DJHelium wrote:On March 03 2015 21:24 Alchemik wrote:On March 03 2015 21:20 DJHelium wrote:
Is there any korean that has adapted Snute's ZvT going SH vs bio? the issue with the style is that you can only do it when you're ahead, and koreans just prefer to kill the other guy when they are ahead Why doesn't it work vs a somewhat passive terran like this? Mutas to defend drops and the pressure 4th with SH. Because the Korean Terran just kills you if you're transitioning into Swarmhosts, imo. It might work, if the Terran doesn't realize the transition, but as soon as he does, I think the Zerg's dead. You can max and then transition. :D When snute fails vs the magical korean terrans it cause he falls behind early on, if he enters the midgame on even footing he does well with the style.
You are gonna need some supply to build hosts. You'll need at least 8, preferably more for them to fulfill any purpose...
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On March 03 2015 21:27 SC2Toastie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 21:24 sAsImre wrote:On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote:
That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting? It depends who you're playing, this style would be really risky against a Z that just makes 1bajillion banes. Is it though? As far as I can see, you'll have 1 marauder, 8 marines, 2 thors and 2 mines (or 4 mines, depending on shortly upgrades finishing) of production and a ton of sim city. I think you can quite easily hold a mass baneling YOLO move..?
We even saw a mass baneling yolo this game and it did very little. (imo the point when ByuL gave away his lead and started falling behind)
But I also don't think that this style is very strong. The zerg should be able to deny the 5th base (what ByuL didn't) with mass mutas (which ByuL hadn't) and get a pretty sick ultra/baneling/infestor deathball to go with it when you are that passive. And then it's a Terran that eventually has to attack because he can't get a 5th properly and the zerg has like 6bases but he has to fight into said deathball on creep.
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Imagine if Life just got even better joining KT
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On March 03 2015 21:31 Alchemik wrote:
I don't like Vaani cause of how you can't attack as Zerg on this map
Hosts? Muta? Epic surrounds at the third and fourth? Dude...
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On March 03 2015 21:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 21:27 Zealously wrote:On March 03 2015 21:26 SkrollK wrote:
There's no English stream for the Proleague ?
I'm a little bit confused atm. It's on the sidebar people just don't try to look at the sidebar.
when i read his post i checked the sidebar and there actually was just the azubu stream
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On March 03 2015 21:31 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Imagine if Life just got even better joining KT
It would mean that Life > Ryu Won
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On March 03 2015 21:31 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 21:29 Jono7272 wrote:On March 03 2015 21:27 Zealously wrote:On March 03 2015 21:26 SkrollK wrote:
There's no English stream for the Proleague ?
I'm a little bit confused atm. It's on the sidebar Twitch one isn't? Sidebar is where I always look for the stream.. "Organizations" SC2 Proleague and now also at Featured on Air again.
I have to look further down..? I don't have time for that!
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