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Estancia
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)335 Posts
March 03 2015 12:26 GMT
#361
On March 03 2015 21:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:
well i am happy that flash won, but i feel like byul building broodlords was a big mistake


Byul should have went in for the kill when he had the broodlords and flash didn't have anything else.
Flash bought time to get vikings when he attacked Byul's 4th and 5th.
Plus at the last part Byul didn't focus, lost all his ultras to marauders in the middle of the map, lost half his broodlords that were destroying Flash's 4th because his mutas were away, etc etc.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
March 03 2015 12:27 GMT
#362
On March 03 2015 21:25 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 21:24 Alchemik wrote:
On March 03 2015 21:20 DJHelium wrote:
Is there any korean that has adapted Snute's ZvT going SH vs bio?

the issue with the style is that you can only do it when you're ahead, and koreans just prefer to kill the other guy when they are ahead


Why doesn't it work vs a somewhat passive terran like this? Mutas to defend drops and the pressure 4th with SH.

ah, vs a passive Terran I think you can just go straight up to 88 drones and just kill him with 2/2 timing

but ye, I think it could work vs passivness, but I'm not sure, since I'm not used to playing long games vs passive players
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
March 03 2015 12:27 GMT
#363
On March 03 2015 21:26 SkrollK wrote:
There's no English stream for the Proleague ?

I'm a little bit confused atm.


http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague ?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 03 2015 12:27 GMT
#364
On March 03 2015 21:26 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote:
That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting?


Cure is doing this also I think


Cure did 8 rax before 4th in most of his recent online TvZ that I watched. He macroes ultra well tho so he can get a quick 4th if he max quickly.
Zest fanboy.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 03 2015 12:27 GMT
#365
On March 03 2015 21:26 SkrollK wrote:
There's no English stream for the Proleague ?

I'm a little bit confused atm.

http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague

somehow it disappeared from the sidebar
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5624 Posts
March 03 2015 12:27 GMT
#366
KT fukkin' Life

Still feels like a dream.
don't wall off against random
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 03 2015 12:27 GMT
#367
On March 03 2015 21:26 SkrollK wrote:
There's no English stream for the Proleague ?

I'm a little bit confused atm.

There's a twitch and azubu stream in the OP...
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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2955 Posts
March 03 2015 12:27 GMT
#368
On March 03 2015 21:25 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 21:24 Alchemik wrote:
On March 03 2015 21:20 DJHelium wrote:
Is there any korean that has adapted Snute's ZvT going SH vs bio?

the issue with the style is that you can only do it when you're ahead, and koreans just prefer to kill the other guy when they are ahead


Why doesn't it work vs a somewhat passive terran like this? Mutas to defend drops and the pressure 4th with SH.


Because the Korean Terran just kills you if you're transitioning into Swarmhosts, imo. It might work, if the Terran doesn't realize the transition, but as soon as he does, I think the Zerg's dead.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 03 2015 12:27 GMT
#369
hoping life loses his first KT match.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
March 03 2015 12:27 GMT
#370
On March 03 2015 21:24 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote:
That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting?


It depends who you're playing, this style would be really risky against a Z that just makes 1bajillion banes.

Is it though? As far as I can see, you'll have 1 marauder, 8 marines, 2 thors and 2 mines (or 4 mines, depending on shortly upgrades finishing) of production and a ton of sim city. I think you can quite easily hold a mass baneling YOLO move..?
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 03 2015 12:27 GMT
#371
On March 03 2015 21:27 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 21:26 SkrollK wrote:
There's no English stream for the Proleague ?

I'm a little bit confused atm.


http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague ?

http://www.azubu.tv/EN_SC2_Proleague#stay
better stream
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 03 2015 12:27 GMT
#372
Flash & MKP won
rip fpl
Liquipedia"Expert"
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 03 2015 12:27 GMT
#373
On March 03 2015 21:26 SkrollK wrote:
There's no English stream for the Proleague ?

I'm a little bit confused atm.

It's on the sidebar
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
March 03 2015 12:28 GMT
#374
I love how Rogue is making such an effort to not laugh during the whole interview


And Flashhhhhhh yay! super nice game! BLs! Ultras!
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
March 03 2015 12:28 GMT
#375
On March 03 2015 21:28 Silvana wrote:
I love how Rogue is making such an effort to not laugh during the whole interview


And Flashhhhhhh yay! super nice game! BLs! Ultras!

Jin Air guys just don't give a fuck.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 03 2015 12:28 GMT
#376
On March 03 2015 21:28 Silvana wrote:
I love how Rogue is making such an effort to not laugh during the whole interview


And Flashhhhhhh yay! super nice game! BLs! Ultras!

no roaches = bad game
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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
March 03 2015 12:28 GMT
#377
On March 03 2015 21:27 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 21:26 Ketch wrote:
On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote:
That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting?


Cure is doing this also I think


Cure did 8 rax before 4th in most of his recent online TvZ that I watched. He macroes ultra well tho so he can get a quick 4th if he max quickly.


You mean the series vs Snute? I only remember him as very passive in his opening and then tearing Snute apart later on. But it might have been with more rax focus
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12728 Posts
March 03 2015 12:29 GMT
#378
On March 03 2015 21:26 Estancia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 21:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:
well i am happy that flash won, but i feel like byul building broodlords was a big mistake


Byul should have went in for the kill when he had the broodlords and flash didn't have anything else.
Flash bought time to get vikings when he attacked Byul's 4th and 5th.
Plus at the last part Byul didn't focus, lost all his ultras to marauders in the middle of the map, lost half his broodlords that were destroying Flash's 4th because his mutas were away, etc etc.

Flash has plenty of time to prepare and he could snipe bases way faster than broodlord taking down a PF
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
March 03 2015 12:29 GMT
#379
On March 03 2015 21:27 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 21:26 SkrollK wrote:
There's no English stream for the Proleague ?

I'm a little bit confused atm.


http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague ?



Ok, I may be brainlagging but the only featured stream on TL is the AZUBU one, which is usually the Korean one, if I'm not mistaken.
Tho the commentaries on that one is also in english. I'm really confused

But that's ok since i can follow the stream. TY
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 03 2015 12:29 GMT
#380
On March 03 2015 21:27 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 21:24 sAsImre wrote:
On March 03 2015 21:23 SC2Toastie wrote:
That same heavy macro, low aggression style of TvZ that MarineKing used yesterday. Going higher on the tech units and faster expansions and staying at 5 rax for very, very long, until after 3 fact and DC is done. Is the metagame shifting?


It depends who you're playing, this style would be really risky against a Z that just makes 1bajillion banes.

Is it though? As far as I can see, you'll have 1 marauder, 8 marines, 2 thors and 2 mines (or 4 mines, depending on shortly upgrades finishing) of production and a ton of sim city. I think you can quite easily hold a mass baneling YOLO move..?


you delay quite a lot your prod so you can soak up the 1st wave but i'm not sure about the second. the 3marau prod helps quite a lot vs mass bane/low muta style (true does that all the time).

Sure if you hold you're in a very good spot but it'd be risky.
Depends of the maps etc of course
Zest fanboy.
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