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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
March 02 2015 13:58 GMT
#581
On March 02 2015 22:58 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 22:56 SC2Toastie wrote:
On March 02 2015 22:55 Tiaraju9 wrote:
This game is just a build order loss. Phoenix against gate-nexus-robo is a autowin for the phoenix player.


Oh shut up lol

This had nothing to do with BOs. Dear was ahead if anything

ngl but your bias is really irritating, specially when Maru played badly today.

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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 02 2015 13:58 GMT
#582
On March 02 2015 22:58 lichter wrote:
now the big question is whether people trade trap and for whom

It'll depend on how much he gains in value and on his opponent next week, if he plays.
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
March 02 2015 13:58 GMT
#583
On March 02 2015 22:58 lichter wrote:
now the big question is whether people trade trap and for whom


Hes probably not even gonna show up again until next playoffs
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 14:01:45
March 02 2015 13:59 GMT
#584
I'd say the game was relatively even, but Trap stopped probe production and went straight for an attack, while Dear kept focusing on economy when he was actually about to be attacked. Additionally, Dear's army position was an auto-gg.

It is NOT worth trading Trap. Even if he doesn't get played next week (I'm pretty sure he will), his value is still low enough that anyone he is traded for will not be very good. It'd be better to just hold onto him and wait for him to be played again or just keep racking up points from team wins.
KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
March 02 2015 13:59 GMT
#585
On March 02 2015 22:58 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 22:58 lichter wrote:
now the big question is whether people trade trap and for whom

It'll depend on how much he gains in value and on his opponent next week, if he plays.


With sOs looking fragile and Trap's current form I wouldn't be surprised if he features next week.
Flying on the Jin Air hype plane. Lets go Maru, Rogue, sOs and the handsome CJ herO
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 02 2015 13:59 GMT
#586
On March 02 2015 22:58 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 22:58 lichter wrote:
now the big question is whether people trade trap and for whom


Hes probably not even gonna show up again until next playoffs


I dunno, seeing him as ace makes me believe he's better than we think!
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 02 2015 13:59 GMT
#587
On March 02 2015 22:58 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 22:58 lichter wrote:
now the big question is whether people trade trap and for whom


Hes probably not even gonna show up again until next playoffs


Why not? He's JAGW's best P right now and doesn't have any KR indiv tournaments
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 02 2015 14:00 GMT
#588
On March 02 2015 22:56 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 22:55 Tiaraju9 wrote:
This game is just a build order loss. Phoenix against gate-nexus-robo is a autowin for the phoenix player.


Oh shut up lol

This had nothing to do with BOs. Dear was ahead if anything


lol he is right, if you don't fuck up you win almost all the time with phenix vs gate-nexus-robo. And at this level you don't expect something that easy to be fucked up.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 14:01:02
March 02 2015 14:00 GMT
#589
On March 02 2015 22:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
why an MLG champion is 2pts i will never understand


I mean, that was a while ago, so I don't think they had to factor that MLG win in.

But you just have to look at his IEM and Kungfu Cup qualifiers to see that Trap for 2 points was a steal.

http://aligulac.com/players/177-Trap/results/

Definitely an oversight from lichter and co. .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 02 2015 14:01 GMT
#590
On March 02 2015 22:58 lichter wrote:
now the big question is whether people trade trap and for whom


why would you trade him now. he's in the best form he ever was imo and if he keeps it up he'll be a regular starter. Being the ace over the big4 of JAGW means that he probably destroys everything in the in house rankings too.
Zest fanboy.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 14:03:18
March 02 2015 14:02 GMT
#591
On March 02 2015 22:58 lichter wrote:
now the big question is whether people trade trap and for whom


Guess it depends on if he gets played again or if JAGW goes with Cure instead.

Although I don't see how they wont play him after he was today's ace over sOs, Rogue, Maru, he gotta be destroying inhouse matches right now.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
March 02 2015 14:03 GMT
#592
On March 02 2015 23:00 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 22:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
why an MLG champion is 2pts i will never understand


I mean, that was a while ago, so I don't think they had to factor that MLG win in.

But you just have to look at his IEM and Kungfu Cup qualifiers to see that Trap for 2 points was a steal.

http://aligulac.com/players/177-Trap/results/

Definitely an oversight from lichter and co. .


To be fair, FPL was already open by the time the Kungfu Cup qualifiers happened. His IEM qualifier run was impressive though but he didn't play much last round so that probably factored into cost too.
Flying on the Jin Air hype plane. Lets go Maru, Rogue, sOs and the handsome CJ herO
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 02 2015 14:03 GMT
#593
there will always be someone that overperforms and someone that underperforms (sometimes, intentionally )

if everyone was rated accurately that would make for boring fantasy
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 02 2015 14:03 GMT
#594
On March 02 2015 23:00 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 22:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
why an MLG champion is 2pts i will never understand


I mean, that was a while ago, so I don't think they had to factor that MLG win in.

But you just have to look at his IEM and Kungfu Cup qualifiers to see that Trap for 2 points was a steal.

http://aligulac.com/players/177-Trap/results/

Definitely an oversight from lichter and co. .

Well i don't value online stuff too much AND i thought Trap most likely won't play at all this season after week one.
So i picked HerO (i have no idea why, i don't even think eh is good^^) instead and hoped he would play some games this season.
Well let's see how this evolves, this ace match win definitely made trap worth it no matter what happens though^^
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
March 02 2015 14:03 GMT
#595
On March 02 2015 22:58 lichter wrote:
now the big question is whether people trade trap and for whom

No, Trap the captain will have the best fantasy proleague season ever. Only a fool will trade him so soon.
why even
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
March 02 2015 14:04 GMT
#596
I admit. It had to be a tough decision for JinAir coach to pick Trap for the Ace, considering potential PvZ vs Solar.
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 02 2015 14:05 GMT
#597
On March 02 2015 23:04 REyeM wrote:
I admit. It had to be a tough decision for JinAir coach to pick Trap for the Ace, considering potential PvZ vs Solar.

Trap prolly wrecks in PvZ too
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 02 2015 14:05 GMT
#598
On March 02 2015 23:03 lichter wrote:
there will always be someone that overperforms and someone that underperforms (sometimes, intentionally )

if everyone was rated accurately that would make for boring fantasy


Yeah something like what just happened is really fun and it feels great if you pick the right "dark horse" and it pays off. So I like the way it is, good job and thanks for the work .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 02 2015 14:05 GMT
#599
On March 02 2015 23:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 23:00 Musicus wrote:
On March 02 2015 22:55 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
why an MLG champion is 2pts i will never understand


I mean, that was a while ago, so I don't think they had to factor that MLG win in.

But you just have to look at his IEM and Kungfu Cup qualifiers to see that Trap for 2 points was a steal.

http://aligulac.com/players/177-Trap/results/

Definitely an oversight from lichter and co. .

Well i don't value online stuff too much AND i thought Trap most likely won't play at all this season after week one.
So i picked HerO (i have no idea why, i don't even think eh is good^^) instead and hoped he would play some games this season.
Well let's see how this evolves, this ace match win definitely made trap worth it no matter what happens though^^


Online stuff is how you notice the players that are going to make a splash without having inner intel. Rogue started by winning an IEM qualifier with a fantastic run including a final win vs soulkey if I recall correctly.
Zest fanboy.
hborrgg
Profile Joined February 2015
United States888 Posts
March 02 2015 14:06 GMT
#600
How long does it take fpl scores to update?
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