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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 05 2015 11:50 GMT
#601
DREAM IS GOD
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-05 11:52:10
February 05 2015 11:51 GMT
#602
On February 05 2015 20:50 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 20:44 GumBa wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:43 sparklyresidue wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:34 TheDwf wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:32 sparklyresidue wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:25 TheDwf wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:25 sparklyresidue wrote:
Isn't TvT Maru's best matchup, statistically? Why is everyone whining about his gameplay? It's one day.

TvT is Maru's worst match-up

Well, not historically. I'm not sure what time frame you're pulling from though.

From summer 2014 onwards

we're still talking highest matchup according to TLPD, 80%+. Maybe I shouldn't be using that for my percentages though. Anyway this is pointless, I don't know why I'm arguing, he definitely just lost to Dream 2-1.

TLPD has tons missing

Results for kr Maru after 2014-07-01.

Games: 60.71% (34-22)
Matches: 65.38% (17-9)

Current form:
      W W L L L W W W W W
Recent matches:
       kr Maru 2 – 1 kr Hack
       kr Maru 1 – 0 kr Bbyong
       kr Maru 1 – 0 kr MarineKing
       kr Maru 2 – 0 kr Dream
       kr Maru 2 – 0 kr Sorry
       kr Maru 1 – 2 kr TY
       kr Maru 0 – 2 kr MarineKing
       kr Maru 0 – 2 kr sKyHigh
       kr Maru 2 – 1 kr Cure
       kr Maru 1 – 0 kr SuperNova


Filters:
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Opponent Race:    Terran
Opponent Country: all
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.

Misread
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
February 05 2015 11:51 GMT
#603
wtf
Dating thread on TL LUL
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 05 2015 11:51 GMT
#604
On February 05 2015 20:50 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 20:49 SoSexy wrote:
no matchup will ever beat tvz

Mech vs Bio TvT?

PvP is the best
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 05 2015 11:52 GMT
#605
On February 05 2015 20:48 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 20:45 The_Templar wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:40 The_Templar wrote:
NSSL Ro16 Group D Season 1 2015

(Z)Dark vs (T)Dream
0-0


Map: Merry Go Round


Dark spawns in the top left
Dream spawns in the top right

2:00
11 barracks + gas for Dream.
Dark expands.
Reaper opening for Dream, Dark making a spawning pool.
Dark gets a relatively quick gas.

3:00
Dream expands.
Second reaper for Dream.
Dark getting zergling speed.

4:00
Dream adding a third reaper.
The first two reapers make a few pokes but don't do anything significant.
Dream getting a factory.

5:00
Third CC for Dream.
Starport for Dream.
Two hellions being built.
Dark taking his third.
Dark finds and kills a reaper.

7:00 (Z)Dark 59 vs (T)Dream 48
Hellions deny a creep tumor.
A few zerglings sneak into the natural but are cleaned up by hellions.
Lair for Dark.
Cloaked banshees for Dream.
Queens deflect hellion pressure.

8:00 (Z)Dark 66 vs (T)Dream 57
Dark tries to attack while Dream is out on the map, which is unsuccessful.
Baneling speed on the way.
Queens being poked at by hellions and banshees.
More queens on the way.
Two more factories for Dream.

9:00 (Z)Dark 86 vs (T)Dream 85
Hellbats are morphed.
Dark getting 7 banelings.
Hellbats demorphed.
Two banshees go towards Dark's main hatchery but a queen and spore crawler remain.

10:00 (Z)Dark 95 vs (T)Dream 114
Spire and roach warren for Dark.
Dark finishing +1/1.
Queens deposit more creep.
Dream getting thors and hellbats.

12:00 (Z)Dark 105 vs (T)Dream 141
Hellions trim creep in the central area.
Dark is up above 70 drones already and is going mass roach/corrupter.

13:00 (Z)Dark 160 vs (T)Dream 175
20 hellions kill a bunch of queens in the center.
Dark's forces are mobilizing.
Lots of banelings rolling towards Dream's third base.
Dream has almost no tanks but does have lots of thors.

15:00 (Z)Dark 129 vs (T)Dream 155
Infestation pit for Dark.
Second starport for Dream.
Dream is on six thors.
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TL+ Member
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 05 2015 11:52 GMT
#606
On February 05 2015 20:50 Undead1993 wrote:
why did dream win against maru dwf? wtf

g2 A single drop surprised Maru and killed 11 SCVs in the early game
g3 Dream won the first Reaper vs Reaper fight while Maru had already built a Reactor, so he lost 7 SCVs before 6 minutes -.-
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
February 05 2015 11:52 GMT
#607
On February 05 2015 20:51 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 20:50 Grovbolle wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:44 GumBa wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:43 sparklyresidue wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:34 TheDwf wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:32 sparklyresidue wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:25 TheDwf wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:25 sparklyresidue wrote:
Isn't TvT Maru's best matchup, statistically? Why is everyone whining about his gameplay? It's one day.

TvT is Maru's worst match-up

Well, not historically. I'm not sure what time frame you're pulling from though.

From summer 2014 onwards

we're still talking highest matchup according to TLPD, 80%+. Maybe I shouldn't be using that for my percentages though. Anyway this is pointless, I don't know why I'm arguing, he definitely just lost to Dream 2-1.

TLPD has tons missing

Results for kr Maru after 2014-07-01.

Games: 60.71% (34-22)
Matches: 65.38% (17-9)

Current form:
      W W L L L W W W W W
Recent matches:
       kr Maru 2 – 1 kr Hack
       kr Maru 1 – 0 kr Bbyong
       kr Maru 1 – 0 kr MarineKing
       kr Maru 2 – 0 kr Dream
       kr Maru 2 – 0 kr Sorry
       kr Maru 1 – 2 kr TY
       kr Maru 0 – 2 kr MarineKing
       kr Maru 0 – 2 kr sKyHigh
       kr Maru 2 – 1 kr Cure
       kr Maru 1 – 0 kr SuperNova


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    Terran
Opponent Country: all
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.

Your point? All the leifengs etc are missing

well aligulac has his tvt at 62% so yeah
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 05 2015 11:52 GMT
#608
On February 05 2015 20:51 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 20:50 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:49 SoSexy wrote:
no matchup will ever beat tvz

Mech vs Bio TvT?

PvP is the best

Tempest vs Tempest PvP man. Such a joy to watch.
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 05 2015 11:52 GMT
#609
On February 05 2015 20:52 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 20:51 GumBa wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:50 Grovbolle wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:44 GumBa wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:43 sparklyresidue wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:34 TheDwf wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:32 sparklyresidue wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:25 TheDwf wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:25 sparklyresidue wrote:
Isn't TvT Maru's best matchup, statistically? Why is everyone whining about his gameplay? It's one day.

TvT is Maru's worst match-up

Well, not historically. I'm not sure what time frame you're pulling from though.

From summer 2014 onwards

we're still talking highest matchup according to TLPD, 80%+. Maybe I shouldn't be using that for my percentages though. Anyway this is pointless, I don't know why I'm arguing, he definitely just lost to Dream 2-1.

TLPD has tons missing

Results for kr Maru after 2014-07-01.

Games: 60.71% (34-22)
Matches: 65.38% (17-9)

Current form:
      W W L L L W W W W W
Recent matches:
       kr Maru 2 – 1 kr Hack
       kr Maru 1 – 0 kr Bbyong
       kr Maru 1 – 0 kr MarineKing
       kr Maru 2 – 0 kr Dream
       kr Maru 2 – 0 kr Sorry
       kr Maru 1 – 2 kr TY
       kr Maru 0 – 2 kr MarineKing
       kr Maru 0 – 2 kr sKyHigh
       kr Maru 2 – 1 kr Cure
       kr Maru 1 – 0 kr SuperNova


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    Terran
Opponent Country: all
Match Format: all
On/offline: both
Game Version: all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.

Your point? All the leifengs etc are missing

well aligulac has his tvt at 62% so yeah

I misread. But I'm not the one saying Maru is bad in TvT
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 05 2015 11:53 GMT
#610
Dream is a god
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 05 2015 11:53 GMT
#611
Aha Dream so good
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
February 05 2015 11:53 GMT
#612
Job well done Dream.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 05 2015 11:53 GMT
#613
On February 05 2015 20:52 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 20:48 The_Templar wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:45 The_Templar wrote:
On February 05 2015 20:40 The_Templar wrote:
NSSL Ro16 Group D Season 1 2015

(Z)Dark vs (T)Dream
0-0


Map: Merry Go Round


Dark spawns in the top left
Dream spawns in the top right

2:00
11 barracks + gas for Dream.
Dark expands.
Reaper opening for Dream, Dark making a spawning pool.
Dark gets a relatively quick gas.

3:00
Dream expands.
Second reaper for Dream.
Dark getting zergling speed.

4:00
Dream adding a third reaper.
The first two reapers make a few pokes but don't do anything significant.
Dream getting a factory.

5:00
Third CC for Dream.
Starport for Dream.
Two hellions being built.
Dark taking his third.
Dark finds and kills a reaper.

7:00 (Z)Dark 59 vs (T)Dream 48
Hellions deny a creep tumor.
A few zerglings sneak into the natural but are cleaned up by hellions.
Lair for Dark.
Cloaked banshees for Dream.
Queens deflect hellion pressure.

8:00 (Z)Dark 66 vs (T)Dream 57
Dark tries to attack while Dream is out on the map, which is unsuccessful.
Baneling speed on the way.
Queens being poked at by hellions and banshees.
More queens on the way.
Two more factories for Dream.

9:00 (Z)Dark 86 vs (T)Dream 85
Hellbats are morphed.
Dark getting 7 banelings.
Hellbats demorphed.
Two banshees go towards Dark's main hatchery but a queen and spore crawler remain.

10:00 (Z)Dark 95 vs (T)Dream 114
Spire and roach warren for Dark.
Dark finishing +1/1.
Queens deposit more creep.
Dream getting thors and hellbats.

12:00 (Z)Dark 105 vs (T)Dream 141
Hellions trim creep in the central area.
Dark is up above 70 drones already and is going mass roach/corrupter.

13:00 (Z)Dark 160 vs (T)Dream 175
20 hellions kill a bunch of queens in the center.
Dark's forces are mobilizing.
Lots of banelings rolling towards Dream's third base.
Dream has almost no tanks but does have lots of thors.

15:00 (Z)Dark 129 vs (T)Dream 155
Infestation pit for Dark.
Second starport for Dream.
Dream is on six thors.

16:00 (Z)Dark 161 vs (T)Dream 182
Dream has more tanks now and he pushes across the map.
Swarm hosts finishing for Dark.
Dream moving across the map, reaching the natural ramp of Dark.

17:00 (Z)Dark 180 vs (T)Dream 183
Banshees get on top of swarm hosts.
Dark GG's!
Dream takes a 1-0 lead!
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 05 2015 11:53 GMT
#614
Why would you EVER bust like that a meching player on Merry. Seriously...
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 05 2015 11:53 GMT
#615
Now pls let Maru kill the Dark hype train
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
February 05 2015 11:53 GMT
#616
oh ok gumba.

man after that tvt against bbyong i thought for sure dream would go down here. now he is one game away from advancing first
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
February 05 2015 11:53 GMT
#617
Confirmed! Dream is better than TY and Maru.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 05 2015 11:53 GMT
#618
boring
Zerg for Life
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
February 05 2015 11:53 GMT
#619
Oov and INno created a monster!
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
February 05 2015 11:53 GMT
#620
job well screwed Dark
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