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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 01 2015 11:47 GMT
#2021
On February 01 2015 20:00 pretender58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 19:59 sharkie wrote:
wow Maru was so close to winning?
Did he derp in any of the final three games?

yup, in game seven


I'm not sure Maru would have survived game 7 even if he had built a functional wall. His opening was pretty greedy, and it isn't like he had plenty of units waiting behind the wall.
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
February 01 2015 11:50 GMT
#2022
Ugh almost Maru.....
imbalife.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
pretender58
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany713 Posts
February 01 2015 11:58 GMT
#2023
On February 01 2015 20:47 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 20:00 pretender58 wrote:
On February 01 2015 19:59 sharkie wrote:
wow Maru was so close to winning?
Did he derp in any of the final three games?

yup, in game seven


I'm not sure Maru would have survived game 7 even if he had built a functional wall. His opening was pretty greedy, and it isn't like he had plenty of units waiting behind the wall.

Possibly, he would have died anyway, but failing to build a full wall-in in the first place is certainly a mistake you simply cannot make in a deciding map and he immediately got punished for it.
Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
February 01 2015 12:56 GMT
#2024
On February 01 2015 18:39 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 18:33 Soularion wrote:
On February 01 2015 18:31 Zealously wrote:
Please excuse Soularion he made a good prediction in calling a close Life-Maru finals, but he gets a little drunk on success


So you're disagreeing that it's a good foreign tournament for Maru, or are you disagreeing that it shows -some- sign of relative weakness in Life? Do remember that you predicted a very stompy Life vs Maru finals, which is quite far from what you got. I wouldn't be surprised if Life continued his domination, but I would equally not be surprised if it turned out that this series was the start/continuation of people beginning to get better against him. I don't see how that's an insane idea to comprehend.


I think you're grossly overestimating the significance of Maru playing a good series against Life, yes. Remember, this is hardly the first time Life has been brought to the brink of elimination by another player only to get his shit together and win 2, 3, 4 (even 5 at one point I think) games in a row in confident and collected fashion. Maru played very well, I think he played above his level and managed to find the cracks you can exploit in Life's armor if he's good enough, but Life adapted and ironed out the chinks like he always does. This series didn't display weakness, it showed why Life is the best player in the world (peerless adaptability, mental composure and top-level skill in every aspect of the game) and Maru isn't, and I would much sooner intepret the finals as a sign of unabated strength than impending doom.



Lol. Maru didn't play "above his level."
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 01 2015 14:02 GMT
#2025
On February 01 2015 21:56 Grizvok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 18:39 Zealously wrote:
On February 01 2015 18:33 Soularion wrote:
On February 01 2015 18:31 Zealously wrote:
Please excuse Soularion he made a good prediction in calling a close Life-Maru finals, but he gets a little drunk on success


So you're disagreeing that it's a good foreign tournament for Maru, or are you disagreeing that it shows -some- sign of relative weakness in Life? Do remember that you predicted a very stompy Life vs Maru finals, which is quite far from what you got. I wouldn't be surprised if Life continued his domination, but I would equally not be surprised if it turned out that this series was the start/continuation of people beginning to get better against him. I don't see how that's an insane idea to comprehend.


I think you're grossly overestimating the significance of Maru playing a good series against Life, yes. Remember, this is hardly the first time Life has been brought to the brink of elimination by another player only to get his shit together and win 2, 3, 4 (even 5 at one point I think) games in a row in confident and collected fashion. Maru played very well, I think he played above his level and managed to find the cracks you can exploit in Life's armor if he's good enough, but Life adapted and ironed out the chinks like he always does. This series didn't display weakness, it showed why Life is the best player in the world (peerless adaptability, mental composure and top-level skill in every aspect of the game) and Maru isn't, and I would much sooner intepret the finals as a sign of unabated strength than impending doom.



Lol. Maru didn't play "above his level."


Funny how opinions work.
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LordYama
Profile Joined August 2010
United States370 Posts
February 01 2015 14:11 GMT
#2026
I seem to recall IEM/ESL making replay files available from past events, will they publish these replays do you think?
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
February 01 2015 14:13 GMT
#2027
On February 01 2015 23:11 LordYama wrote:
I seem to recall IEM/ESL making replay files available from past events, will they publish these replays do you think?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/477104-iem-taipei-replaypack
LordYama
Profile Joined August 2010
United States370 Posts
February 01 2015 14:17 GMT
#2028
On February 01 2015 23:13 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 23:11 LordYama wrote:
I seem to recall IEM/ESL making replay files available from past events, will they publish these replays do you think?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/477104-iem-taipei-replaypack



Awww yeahhh! Thanks!
kottbullar
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia490 Posts
February 01 2015 14:27 GMT
#2029
Taipei is the new Cologne. Heres hoping that the rest of the year be better than 2014.
aLjaKSndr
Profile Joined September 2014
2 Posts
February 01 2015 14:37 GMT
#2030
has anyone ever thought Life's sudden pp was a trick? I'm in Taiwan and many people booed that pp on forums though I don't quite get it.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
February 01 2015 14:50 GMT
#2031
On February 01 2015 15:35 Larkin wrote:
Axiom is more his wife's project... although I will concede that it is a contribution outside of what I mentioned


Not in any way is this true.
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-01 15:27:28
February 01 2015 15:26 GMT
#2032
Awesome finals once again proving for good sc2 action, its better to have a TvT or TvZ than anything with protoss. Not saying they are imba, just not as exciting to watch.
However, I feel that the pause was, what changed the last game. Losing 3 reapers... and oh my god that hole in the wallup... Maru?
On February 01 2015 23:13 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 23:11 LordYama wrote:
I seem to recall IEM/ESL making replay files available from past events, will they publish these replays do you think?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/477104-iem-taipei-replaypack

That is so awesome, thank you!
IEM rocks for that!
ilovegroov
Profile Joined January 2015
357 Posts
February 01 2015 15:27 GMT
#2033
On February 01 2015 23:02 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 21:56 Grizvok wrote:
On February 01 2015 18:39 Zealously wrote:
On February 01 2015 18:33 Soularion wrote:
On February 01 2015 18:31 Zealously wrote:
Please excuse Soularion he made a good prediction in calling a close Life-Maru finals, but he gets a little drunk on success


So you're disagreeing that it's a good foreign tournament for Maru, or are you disagreeing that it shows -some- sign of relative weakness in Life? Do remember that you predicted a very stompy Life vs Maru finals, which is quite far from what you got. I wouldn't be surprised if Life continued his domination, but I would equally not be surprised if it turned out that this series was the start/continuation of people beginning to get better against him. I don't see how that's an insane idea to comprehend.


I think you're grossly overestimating the significance of Maru playing a good series against Life, yes. Remember, this is hardly the first time Life has been brought to the brink of elimination by another player only to get his shit together and win 2, 3, 4 (even 5 at one point I think) games in a row in confident and collected fashion. Maru played very well, I think he played above his level and managed to find the cracks you can exploit in Life's armor if he's good enough, but Life adapted and ironed out the chinks like he always does. This series didn't display weakness, it showed why Life is the best player in the world (peerless adaptability, mental composure and top-level skill in every aspect of the game) and Maru isn't, and I would much sooner intepret the finals as a sign of unabated strength than impending doom.



Lol. Maru didn't play "above his level."


Funny how opinions work.


What is objective though is that you are known to be the #1 Life fanboy so everything you say is probably rather biased.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-01 15:47:42
February 01 2015 15:42 GMT
#2034
On February 01 2015 18:39 Zealously wrote:
I think you're grossly overestimating the significance of Maru playing a good series against Life, yes. Remember, this is hardly the first time Life has been brought to the brink of elimination by another player only to get his shit together and win 2, 3, 4 (even 5 at one point I think) games in a row in confident and collected fashion. Maru played very well, I think he played above his level and managed to find the cracks you can exploit in Life's armor if he's good enough, but Life adapted and ironed out the chinks like he always does. This series didn't display weakness, it showed why Life is the best player in the world (peerless adaptability, mental composure and top-level skill in every aspect of the game) and Maru isn't, and I would much sooner intepret the finals as a sign of unabated strength than impending doom.

I must have watched another game then.
We have seen impressive holds by Maru over and over again, and these series were not less impressive.
In lots of cases you could say, that no other terran out there could have done that.
Sure mistakes were made on both sides (I am still not sure if Zerg isn't a little bit more forgiving when it comes to mistakes, since the macro works so different within the 2 races, but I am not saying anything about balance here, cause where there might be an advantage for the zerg, on the other side there is one for the Terran), but saying Life is above Maru, when Maru compeletely wrecked Life in 2 Games with a slow, macro oriented push, while he himself lost to all-inish moves...

If Maru isn't top although doing what almost no other Terran can do, then I don't know who is...

Life is impressive, I always knew that from the first time I saw him. It was like "oh look, a Zerg who not just A-Moves but micros, he will win tournaments very soon"
pichoo
Profile Joined May 2014
Australia123 Posts
February 01 2015 15:53 GMT
#2035
Regardless it's one hell of a final, I mean the amount of battle of micros and multitask is unbelievable, at times the observer simply couldn't follow everything on the battles that happen in multiple places.

I pick up something in this final though, the 3 games Maru wins, it involves banshees. If I remember correctly forGG also did quite bit of trouble with banshee to Life in DH winter final too. Could this be a chink in Life's armor? His blindside?

Overall being a fan of both players, I think Life won the mental battle, possibly due to his careless confidence attitude and more experience in foreign tournaments.

On another note, Life learned that Maru tend to do proxy and he respect that by scouting early in every game. While I feel Maru doesn't learn that Life does counter attack and ling run by more than any other zerg in the world.

CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 01 2015 15:53 GMT
#2036
Congrats to Life for winning and Maru for showing he's a TvZ boss.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12179 Posts
February 01 2015 15:54 GMT
#2037
On February 02 2015 00:27 ilovegroov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 23:02 Zealously wrote:
On February 01 2015 21:56 Grizvok wrote:
On February 01 2015 18:39 Zealously wrote:
On February 01 2015 18:33 Soularion wrote:
On February 01 2015 18:31 Zealously wrote:
Please excuse Soularion he made a good prediction in calling a close Life-Maru finals, but he gets a little drunk on success


So you're disagreeing that it's a good foreign tournament for Maru, or are you disagreeing that it shows -some- sign of relative weakness in Life? Do remember that you predicted a very stompy Life vs Maru finals, which is quite far from what you got. I wouldn't be surprised if Life continued his domination, but I would equally not be surprised if it turned out that this series was the start/continuation of people beginning to get better against him. I don't see how that's an insane idea to comprehend.


I think you're grossly overestimating the significance of Maru playing a good series against Life, yes. Remember, this is hardly the first time Life has been brought to the brink of elimination by another player only to get his shit together and win 2, 3, 4 (even 5 at one point I think) games in a row in confident and collected fashion. Maru played very well, I think he played above his level and managed to find the cracks you can exploit in Life's armor if he's good enough, but Life adapted and ironed out the chinks like he always does. This series didn't display weakness, it showed why Life is the best player in the world (peerless adaptability, mental composure and top-level skill in every aspect of the game) and Maru isn't, and I would much sooner intepret the finals as a sign of unabated strength than impending doom.



Lol. Maru didn't play "above his level."


Funny how opinions work.


What is objective though is that you are known to be the #1 Life fanboy so everything you say is probably rather biased.


Still waiting on that famous unbiased player's appreciation list
No will to live, no wish to die
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
February 01 2015 15:56 GMT
#2038
Life - come back! Come on my son!
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
February 01 2015 16:12 GMT
#2039
LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU


GG
rip passion
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
February 01 2015 16:21 GMT
#2040
just watched the semi finals and the final with the replay pack, damn maru your wall .. anyway good games overall, gg life
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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