★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
33%
★★★- Good game (5)
28%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
6%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
18 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Maru vs Zoun?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (11)
37%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (14)
47%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (4)
13%
30 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Cure vs YoDa?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
23%
★★★- Good game (2)
15%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
23%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
15%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Rogue vs MyuNgSiK?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (8)
40%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (5)
25%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (7)
35%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Creator?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
27%
★★★- Good game (5)
45%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
9%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace Match?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3 | Game 4 | Ace Match
Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3 | Game 4 | Ace Match Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3 | Game 4 | Ace Match
This is gonna be the defining moment in esports history. Maru losing on Catallena to the mighty protoss Zoun from Prime. After Prime wins this, my year is done. Nothing can top that. Well, maybe Polt winning at Blizzcon this year.
On January 27 2015 20:58 showstealer1829 wrote: I don't know about you guys but I'm going to my doctor tomorrow to try and get him to write up a prescription for LotV on that advice
On January 27 2015 20:58 vult wrote: I fear that my power might go out, there are like 45 mph wind and snow :o I hope it doesnt because then I wont be able to maintain the OP.
I hope you and the rest will be safe against the wrath of Santa Clauf
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
33%
★★★- Good game (5)
28%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
6%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
18 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Maru vs Zoun?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Haha yeah thanks forgot about the Oracle and his Scouting probe. Poor Zoun Oh well, thats what you get for sending a toss out on Catallena Gerrard you sausage!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (11)
37%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (14)
47%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (4)
13%
30 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Cure vs YoDa?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (11)
37%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (14)
47%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (4)
13%
30 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Cure vs YoDa?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
23%
★★★- Good game (2)
15%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
23%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
15%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Rogue vs MyuNgSiK?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On January 27 2015 21:46 Big J wrote: BO win. Pisspoor control by Myungsik, but whatever.
yo what happened? I wasn't really watching and then like 5 stalkers walk into Rouge's base and he dies
Myungsik goes SG, Rouge scouts it. Rouge makes spores and a third, Myungsik allins off 4gates+1oracle with Rouge playing a delayed zergling speed and just walks in and wins.
On January 27 2015 21:46 Big J wrote: BO win. Pisspoor control by Myungsik, but whatever.
yo what happened? I wasn't really watching and then like 5 stalkers walk into Rouge's base and he dies
Myungsik goes SG, Rouge scouts it. Rouge makes spores and a third, Myungsik allins off 4gates+1oracle with Rouge playing a delayed zergling speed and just walks in and wins.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
23%
★★★- Good game (2)
15%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (3)
23%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
15%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Rogue vs MyuNgSiK?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On January 27 2015 21:55 Lorning wrote: Lr plz cant watch
both probe scout around 19, sOs SG->robo, Creator blink->expand
sOs tries to harass with phoenixes, stalkers fend off Creator throws down a robo, sOs expands even supply Creator forge, observer before immortals sOs forge Creator scouting sOs' base with hallu phoenix sOs robo bay, Creator templar archives
On January 27 2015 21:55 Lorning wrote: Lr plz cant watch
both probe scout around 19, sOs SG->robo, Creator blink->expand
sOs tries to harass with phoenixes, stalkers fend off Creator throws down a robo, sOs expands even supply Creator forge, observer before immortals sOs forge Creator scouting sOs' base with hallu phoenix sOs robo bay, Creator templar archives
POV being shown, sOs flies into Creator's main with his obs Creators templars scouting under his ramp for phonixes both starting +2 sOs 1st collosus out, templar archives on the way Creator robo bay on the way both 47 workers and around 100 supply
On January 27 2015 21:55 Lorning wrote: Lr plz cant watch
both probe scout around 19, sOs SG->robo, Creator blink->expand
sOs tries to harass with phoenixes, stalkers fend off Creator throws down a robo, sOs expands even supply Creator forge, observer before immortals sOs forge Creator scouting sOs' base with hallu phoenix sOs robo bay, Creator templar archives
On January 27 2015 21:55 Lorning wrote: Lr plz cant watch
both probe scout around 19, sOs SG->robo, Creator blink->expand
sOs tries to harass with phoenixes, stalkers fend off Creator throws down a robo, sOs expands even supply Creator forge, observer before immortals sOs forge Creator scouting sOs' base with hallu phoenix sOs robo bay, Creator templar archives
On January 27 2015 21:55 Lorning wrote: Lr plz cant watch
both probe scout around 19, sOs SG->robo, Creator blink->expand
sOs tries to harass with phoenixes, stalkers fend off Creator throws down a robo, sOs expands even supply Creator forge, observer before immortals sOs forge Creator scouting sOs' base with hallu phoenix sOs robo bay, Creator templar archives
POV being shown, sOs flies into Creator's main with his obs Creators templars scouting under his ramp for phonixes both starting +2 sOs 1st collosus out, templar archives on the way Creator robo bay on the way both 47 workers and around 100 supply
Creator drops zealots to natural, has 3rd finishing up vs no 3rd from sOs snipes MSC with his move out 116 vs 98 now sOs taking 3rd, extended thermal lance halfway done Creator starting cannons at his 3rd, hasn't started collo range yet
On January 27 2015 21:55 Lorning wrote: Lr plz cant watch
both probe scout around 19, sOs SG->robo, Creator blink->expand
sOs tries to harass with phoenixes, stalkers fend off Creator throws down a robo, sOs expands even supply Creator forge, observer before immortals sOs forge Creator scouting sOs' base with hallu phoenix sOs robo bay, Creator templar archives
POV being shown, sOs flies into Creator's main with his obs Creators templars scouting under his ramp for phonixes both starting +2 sOs 1st collosus out, templar archives on the way Creator robo bay on the way both 47 workers and around 100 supply
Creator drops zealots to natural, has 3rd finishing up vs no 3rd from sOs snipes MSC with his move out 116 vs 98 now sOs taking 3rd, extended thermal lance halfway done Creator starting cannons at his 3rd, hasn't started collo range yet
zealot drop into main, sOs fends off sOs destroying rocks at Creator's natural doesn't walk into Creator's concave feedbacks on MSC, other sOs' units BIGH FIGHT LAZERS everything but collossi melts, sOs sniping MSC and 1 collossus with 3 phoenixes he still has stream offline as sOs backs off from the 3rd
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (8)
40%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (5)
25%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (7)
35%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Creator?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Ace Match?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
9%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
27%
★★★- Good game (5)
45%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
9%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace Match?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On January 27 2015 21:55 Lorning wrote: Lr plz cant watch
both probe scout around 19, sOs SG->robo, Creator blink->expand
sOs tries to harass with phoenixes, stalkers fend off Creator throws down a robo, sOs expands even supply Creator forge, observer before immortals sOs forge Creator scouting sOs' base with hallu phoenix sOs robo bay, Creator templar archives
POV being shown, sOs flies into Creator's main with his obs Creators templars scouting under his ramp for phonixes both starting +2 sOs 1st collosus out, templar archives on the way Creator robo bay on the way both 47 workers and around 100 supply
Creator drops zealots to natural, has 3rd finishing up vs no 3rd from sOs snipes MSC with his move out 116 vs 98 now sOs taking 3rd, extended thermal lance halfway done Creator starting cannons at his 3rd, hasn't started collo range yet
zealot drop into main, sOs fends off sOs destroying rocks at Creator's natural doesn't walk into Creator's concave feedbacks on MSC, other sOs' units BIGH FIGHT LAZERS everything but collossi melts, sOs sniping MSC and 1 collossus with 3 phoenixes he still has stream offline as sOs backs off from the 3rd
On January 27 2015 22:05 OtherWorld wrote: I think at this point it is important to say that CJ and SKT are the only teams of last year's top 4 to not have lost to Prime.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (8)
40%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (5)
25%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (7)
35%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Creator?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Ace Match?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
9%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
27%
★★★- Good game (5)
45%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
9%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace Match?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On January 27 2015 22:05 OtherWorld wrote: I think at this point it is important to say that CJ and SKT are the only teams of last year's top 4 to not have lost to Prime.
yet
TOTALLY WRONG!!!!! SKT lost to prime in 1-3 Round 4 of the 2014 Proleague. Go check again, Kassia won against soO, Salvation lost to Rain, Marineking won against Fantasy, Creator won against Classic
On January 27 2015 22:05 OtherWorld wrote: I think at this point it is important to say that CJ and SKT are the only teams of last year's top 4 to not have lost to Prime.
yet
TOTALLY WRONG!!!!! SKT lost to prime in 1-3 Round 4 of the 2014 Proleague. Go check again, Kassia won against soO, Salvation lost to Rain, Marineking won against Fantasy, Creator won against Classic
On January 27 2015 22:05 OtherWorld wrote: I think at this point it is important to say that CJ and SKT are the only teams of last year's top 4 to not have lost to Prime.
yet
TOTALLY WRONG!!!!! SKT lost to prime in 1-3 Round 4 of the 2014 Proleague. Go check again, Kassia won against soO, Salvation lost to Rain, Marineking won against Fantasy, Creator won against Classic
I was talking about this round. But hey, if you insist on that, yes CJ is the only team which did not lose to Prime in 2014 and 2015. (; edit : wait no I'm wrong. So we'll just talk about 2015.
So for now SKT and CJ are the only teams with guaranteed playoffs spots right? edit : no, apparently only SKT is. We can have a 4-way tie with CJ, ST, JAGW and KT.
On January 27 2015 22:12 seom wrote: if only Prime could get a solid fourth player, preferably a Zerg, they could go really far and have a shot at playoffs next round.
On January 27 2015 22:12 seom wrote: if only Prime could get a solid fourth player, preferably a Zerg, they could go really far and have a shot at playoffs next round.
I'm so surprised jin air lost D: My fpl is dead. p.s. It kills me when I see people give false information in chat "sOs won kespa cup" Smh. and then other people agreeing.
On January 27 2015 22:05 OtherWorld wrote: I think at this point it is important to say that CJ and SKT are the only teams of last year's top 4 to not have lost to Prime.
yet
TOTALLY WRONG!!!!! SKT lost to prime in 1-3 Round 4 of the 2014 Proleague. Go check again, Kassia won against soO, Salvation lost to Rain, Marineking won against Fantasy, Creator won against Classic
I was talking about this round. But hey, if you insist on that, yes CJ is the only team which did not lose to Prime in 2014 and 2015. (; edit : wait no I'm wrong. So we'll just talk about 2015.
On January 27 2015 22:05 OtherWorld wrote: I think at this point it is important to say that CJ and SKT are the only teams of last year's top 4 to not have lost to Prime.
yet
TOTALLY WRONG!!!!! SKT lost to prime in 1-3 Round 4 of the 2014 Proleague. Go check again, Kassia won against soO, Salvation lost to Rain, Marineking won against Fantasy, Creator won against Classic
I was talking about this round. But hey, if you insist on that, yes CJ is the only team which did not lose to Prime in 2014 and 2015. (; edit : wait no I'm wrong. So we'll just talk about 2015.
On January 27 2015 22:15 c0ldfusion wrote: This is the first time I'm watching proleague in a while. I don't know who this caster is (not moonglade) but he is insanely good.
Valdez? Not really, he offers almost zero analysis and has very little game knowledge.
On January 27 2015 22:15 c0ldfusion wrote: This is the first time I'm watching proleague in a while. I don't know who this caster is (not moonglade) but he is insanely good.
On January 27 2015 22:15 c0ldfusion wrote: This is the first time I'm watching proleague in a while. I don't know who this caster is (not moonglade) but he is insanely good.
Valdez? Not really, he offers almost zero analysis and has very little game knowledge.
moonglade is there to provide the analysis this dude does play-by-play like a champ
On January 27 2015 22:15 c0ldfusion wrote: This is the first time I'm watching proleague in a while. I don't know who this caster is (not moonglade) but he is insanely good.
Valdez? Not really, he offers almost zero analysis and has very little game knowledge.
On January 27 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote: So for now SKT and CJ are the only teams with guaranteed playoffs spots right?
Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
On January 27 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote: So for now SKT and CJ are the only teams with guaranteed playoffs spots right?
Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
On January 27 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote: So for now SKT and CJ are the only teams with guaranteed playoffs spots right?
Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
Hmm yeah apparently worst case scenario for CJ (3-0 loss) would put them at -1 map difference, while ST losing 3-2 would put them at -2. So yeah SKT and CJ are confirmed for the playoffs.
On January 27 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote: So for now SKT and CJ are the only teams with guaranteed playoffs spots right?
Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.
I wonder how many people picked up Creator in the last 2 weeks for their main team. Defiinitely one of the best trades. Gotta say, I'm quite pleased with Creator beating Zest and sOs.
I'm glad I picked up Maru and abandoned Rogue and Cure, haha.
On January 27 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote: So for now SKT and CJ are the only teams with guaranteed playoffs spots right?
Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.
Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.
On January 27 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote: So for now SKT and CJ are the only teams with guaranteed playoffs spots right?
Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.
Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.
Both those teams are one win behind Jin Air. Jin Air is at +4 map difference, Prime is at -4, MVP is at -6. So even if Jin Air lose 3-0 and Prime win 3-0, Jin Air will still finish ahead of Prime, as far as I understand it.
Prime and MVP (and Samsung) cannot qualify for playoffs, no matter what they'd lose the point diff tie breaks to Jin Air if there was a 3 or 4 way tie.
SKT and CJ are both locked in, SKT locked in first (point diff too high even if there is a tie at 5-2). Even if there's a 4-way tie at 4-3, CJ's worst map score is -1 which would be better than ST's best map score if they lose of -2.
The winner of ST vs KT is through no matter what. If ST wins, Jin air is also through. If KT wins, then either Jin Air is through if they beat Samsung or else ST is through.
...unless head to head is used before point diff? I can't remember for sure, but I don't think it is.
On January 27 2015 22:12 OtherWorld wrote: So for now SKT and CJ are the only teams with guaranteed playoffs spots right?
Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.
Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.
Both those teams are one win behind Jin Air. Jin Air is at +4 map difference, Prime is at -4, MVP is at -6. So even if Jin Air lose 3-0 and Prime win 3-0, Jin Air will still finish ahead of Prime, as far as I understand it.
Isn't there head-to-head tiebraker? If there isn't, why Liquipedia says, that Prime and MVP could still advance?
On January 27 2015 22:13 TheDwf wrote: [quote] Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.
Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.
Both those teams are one win behind Jin Air. Jin Air is at +4 map difference, Prime is at -4, MVP is at -6. So even if Jin Air lose 3-0 and Prime win 3-0, Jin Air will still finish ahead of Prime, as far as I understand it.
Isn't there head-to-head tiebraker? If there isn't, why Liquipedia says, that Prime and MVP could still advance?
Well last year it was by map difference, so I don't think it's different this year. And even then, penalties may happen, making Prime or MVP qualifying possible (for that same reason CJ is not guaranteed a place in the playoffs yet).
On January 28 2015 00:15 Darkhorse wrote: Wow congrats to Prime! Sucks because I love Jin Air though... I really hope this causes you non-stop Prime bashers to lay off a bit
It might just turn them into Jin Air bashers though.
On January 27 2015 22:13 TheDwf wrote: [quote] Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.
Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.
Both those teams are one win behind Jin Air. Jin Air is at +4 map difference, Prime is at -4, MVP is at -6. So even if Jin Air lose 3-0 and Prime win 3-0, Jin Air will still finish ahead of Prime, as far as I understand it.
Isn't there head-to-head tiebraker? If there isn't, why Liquipedia says, that Prime and MVP could still advance?
There's only tiebreakers if the map score is equal, so there's no way for Prime to place higher than 5th. That is unless penalty points come into play.
On January 27 2015 22:13 TheDwf wrote: [quote] Seems so yes
Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.
Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.
Both those teams are one win behind Jin Air. Jin Air is at +4 map difference, Prime is at -4, MVP is at -6. So even if Jin Air lose 3-0 and Prime win 3-0, Jin Air will still finish ahead of Prime, as far as I understand it.
Isn't there head-to-head tiebraker? If there isn't, why Liquipedia says, that Prime and MVP could still advance?
Looking at results from last year, it was done by map difference (Jin Air finished above IM despite losing to them). I'm guessing that if two teams had same number of wins and same map difference then the head-to-head would be the tiebreaker.
On January 27 2015 22:15 OtherWorld wrote: [quote] Unless SKT and KT win, and JAGW loses, in that case it's a 4-way tie with CJ, KT, ST and JAGW at a 4-3 score?
Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.
Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.
Both those teams are one win behind Jin Air. Jin Air is at +4 map difference, Prime is at -4, MVP is at -6. So even if Jin Air lose 3-0 and Prime win 3-0, Jin Air will still finish ahead of Prime, as far as I understand it.
Isn't there head-to-head tiebraker? If there isn't, why Liquipedia says, that Prime and MVP could still advance?
There's only tiebreakers if the map score is equal, so there's no way for Prime to place higher than 5th. That is unless penalty points come into play.
Ah, oh well. That's a shame. It would be hilarious if Prime would advance into the playoffs.
On January 27 2015 22:18 MiniFotToss wrote: [quote] Which is now impossible since SKT is sitting pretty at 5-1 and +12
And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.
Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.
Both those teams are one win behind Jin Air. Jin Air is at +4 map difference, Prime is at -4, MVP is at -6. So even if Jin Air lose 3-0 and Prime win 3-0, Jin Air will still finish ahead of Prime, as far as I understand it.
Isn't there head-to-head tiebraker? If there isn't, why Liquipedia says, that Prime and MVP could still advance?
There's only tiebreakers if the map score is equal, so there's no way for Prime to place higher than 5th. That is unless penalty points come into play.
Ah, oh well. That's a shame. It would be hilarious if Prime would advance into the playoffs.
If they have the ability to beat KT and Jin Air, they very well could at least one of these rounds. If they really just picked up one more big name player they'd actually maybe be decent.
On January 27 2015 22:22 OtherWorld wrote: [quote] And? Currently : SKT 5-1 CJ 4-2 ST 4-2 JAGW 3-3 KT 3-3
If : -SKT wins CJ : SKT +1 (6-1) ; CJ -1 (4-3) -KT wins ST : KT +1 (4-3) ; ST -1 (4-3) -JAGW wins Khan : JAGW +1 (4-3)
Wouldn't that be decided by map difference though? CJ make the playoffs no matter what since KT and ST-yoe are playing each other. Either KT or ST-yoe can get ahead of them on map difference, but not both.
KT and ST are both -1, so whoever wins would definitely be in playoffs assuming Jin Air beats Samsung afterwards
Yeah, those two matches will determine who makes the playoffs. We'll know who the top 4 are after Monday, but we won't know the exact order until after SKT vs CJ.
Well, no... If KT and JinAir loses, we will know top4 after Prime vs MVP match, hehe.
Both those teams are one win behind Jin Air. Jin Air is at +4 map difference, Prime is at -4, MVP is at -6. So even if Jin Air lose 3-0 and Prime win 3-0, Jin Air will still finish ahead of Prime, as far as I understand it.
Isn't there head-to-head tiebraker? If there isn't, why Liquipedia says, that Prime and MVP could still advance?
There's only tiebreakers if the map score is equal, so there's no way for Prime to place higher than 5th. That is unless penalty points come into play.
Ah, oh well. That's a shame. It would be hilarious if Prime would advance into the playoffs.
If they have the ability to beat KT and Jin Air, they very well could at least one of these rounds. If they really just picked up one more big name player they'd actually maybe be decent.
If they would have some player like Action f.e., they could be quite good. It wouldn't ensure them playoff spot for every round, but they could actually get in, here and there.
Wow that was one of my favorite series this year! I loved Yoda vs Cure. Hanging on for dear life into a frickin' win! Also happy I traded Yoda off my anti this week:
On January 28 2015 06:00 Shellshock wrote: Prime not even last place anymore. Is this when we start making fun of samsung?
You can certainly make fun of Solar everytime you want.
My anti-team certainly isn't making fun of him
Damn that's a genius pick :D Wish my anti team was any good. I'm like top 30 in terms of main team points (have 103 from it), but my anti is terrible. Creator turned out better than I thought.
Congrats to Prime! Imagine what it would do to their team morale if the finish on a three game win streak...they should have a great shot next week vs MVP after beating JAGW and KT.