★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
33%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
3 total votes
Your vote: Recommend qxc vs Kane Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend qxc vs Kane Game 2?
★★★★- Highly recommended game (7)
78%
★★★- Good game (2)
22%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend qxc vs Kane Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend qxc vs Kane Game 3?
★★★- Good game (3)
60%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
20%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend qxc vs Kane Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend qxc vs Kane Game 4?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
50%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
33%
★★★- Good game (1)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend qxc vs Kane Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend qxc vs Kane Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
40%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
20%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
20%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend qxc vs Kane Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
9%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend puCK vs Guitarcheese Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend puCK vs Guitarcheese Game 2?
★★★- Good game (5)
100%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend puCK vs Guitarcheese Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend puCK vs Guitarcheese Game 3?
★★★- Good game (4)
67%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
17%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend puCK vs Guitarcheese Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend puCK vs Guitarcheese Game 4?
★★★- Good game (2)
50%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
50%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend puCK vs Guitarcheese Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend puCK vs Guitarcheese Game 5?
★★★- Good game (2)
50%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
25%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
25%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend puCK vs Guitarcheese Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
75%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
25%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Polt vs Semper Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Polt vs Semper Game 2?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
75%
★★★- Good game (1)
25%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Polt vs Semper Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Polt vs Semper Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
67%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
33%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
3 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Polt vs Semper Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Polt vs Semper Game 4?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
50%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
50%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
2 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Polt vs Semper Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Polt vs Semper Game 5?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
50%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
50%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Polt vs Semper Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
14%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
14%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
7 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Scarlett vs Astrea Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Scarlett vs Astrea Game 2?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
100%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Scarlett vs Astrea Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Scarlett vs Astrea Game 3?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
29%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
21%
★★★- Good game (3)
21%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
21%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
7%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Scarlett vs Astrea Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Scarlett vs Astrea Game 4?
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
63%
★★★- Good game (2)
25%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
13%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Scarlett vs Astrea Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Scarlett vs Astrea Game 5?
★★★- Good game (5)
42%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
25%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
17%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
8%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
8%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Scarlett vs Astrea Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Almost every player I actually care about so far in challenger is playing bad and losing... so RIP Kane and Scarlett I'm predicting both to get 3-0'd now.
Kane vs qxcin in WCS Challenger Season 1 round of 64. Kane is at 1.02% Blizzcon Chances. 51.12% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 1.86%. 48.88% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.14%. qxc is at 0.99% Blizzcon Chances. 48.88% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 1.9%. 51.12% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.13%.
puCK vs Guitarcheesein in WCS Challenger Season 1 round of 64. puCK is at 0.29% Blizzcon Chances. 45.84% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.6%. 54.16% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.03%. Guitarcheese is at 0.2% Blizzcon Chances. 54.16% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.35%. 45.84% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.02%.
Polt vs Semperin in WCS Challenger Season 1 round of 64. Polt is at 29.83% Blizzcon Chances. 75.48% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 36.87%. 24.52% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 8.16%. Semper is at 0.07% Blizzcon Chances. 24.52% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.26%. 75.48% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.01%.
Scarlett vs Astreain in WCS Challenger Season 1 round of 64. Scarlett is at 5.86% Blizzcon Chances. 67.69% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 8.3%. 32.31% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.76%. Astrea is at 0.14% Blizzcon Chances. 32.31% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.4%. 67.69% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.01%.
On January 25 2015 06:39 [PkF] Wire wrote: I don't know who is Astrea. I'm gonna go bold on the first two.
qxc 3-2 Kane pucK 1-3 Guitarcheese Polt 3-0 Semper Scarlett 3-0 Astrea
Astrea is an up-and-coming 2baser who beat Scarlett in the qualifiers, so don't count him out at all.
Oh oh OK. Guess I'll stick with that prediction even though it's probably wrong, I hate Protoss 2 basers and betting against them is the most I can do to fight their retardedness.
Andre's been streaming SC2 for the past month or so, but I'm pretty sure Poker is still his thing. So he remembers his Gas Timings, but after subbing in for the weekend, I don't think we'll seeing much more of him.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
33%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
3 total votes
Your vote: Recommend qxc vs Kane Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On January 25 2015 08:10 KingofdaHipHop wrote: isn't this what Polt did way back in the day
it was a mini-version of Polt's all-in
i still remember polt going up to like 180 supply of marauder hellbat on habitation against jaedong or someone and just getting obliterated totally unscouted by mass baneling lol
On January 25 2015 08:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Gretorp so far is just kind of.... there. Nothing stands out about him.
he's doing fine, everyone including himself knows that he's not going to be completely on top of the metas and analysis but he's holding up. i cringed when he was talking about hive and ultras though when kane clearly had a ling banemuta amove win in the bag
On January 25 2015 08:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Gretorp so far is just kind of.... there. Nothing stands out about him.
he's doing fine, everyone including himself knows that he's not going to be completely on top of the metas and analysis but he's holding up. i cringed when he was talking about hive and ultras though when kane clearly had a ling banemuta amove win in the bag
I didn't expect a lot from him, I just wasn't around when he casted much so I never really heard him much before. He's very flat, quiet even.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend qxc vs Kane Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
foxtrot is not an easy map to position on against someone with the cute micro and multitasking chops of qxc. really strong play, solid defense and map control and then a brutal counterattack. leaving the banelings at home was a great idea
Ugh, that move by Kane is what i hate the most when i get TvZ as random.
If you go back and defend, you still lose 1 or maybe even 2 CC#s and the Zerg sits on 4 base and simply wins with economy. If you go and attack you get overwhelmed by 100 banes while you lose all CC's, production and co to Mutas at your base :S
On January 25 2015 08:37 Quateras wrote: Ugh, that move by Kane is what i hate the most when i get TvZ as random.
If you go back and defend, you still lose 1 or maybe even 2 CC#s and the Zerg sits on 4 base and simply wins with economy. If you go and attack you get overwhelmed by 100 banes while you lose all CC's, production and co to Mutas at your base :S
well played
Yeah I main terran and that move just SUCKS. It leaves the terran with no good choices.
On January 25 2015 08:37 Quateras wrote: Ugh, that move by Kane is what i hate the most when i get TvZ as random.
If you go back and defend, you still lose 1 or maybe even 2 CC#s and the Zerg sits on 4 base and simply wins with economy. If you go and attack you get overwhelmed by 100 banes while you lose all CC's, production and co to Mutas at your base :S
well played
Yeah I main terran and that move just SUCKS. It leaves the terran with no good choices.
The key is to just place a marine or mine in the attack path.
On January 25 2015 08:37 Quateras wrote: Ugh, that move by Kane is what i hate the most when i get TvZ as random.
If you go back and defend, you still lose 1 or maybe even 2 CC#s and the Zerg sits on 4 base and simply wins with economy. If you go and attack you get overwhelmed by 100 banes while you lose all CC's, production and co to Mutas at your base :S
well played
Yeah I main terran and that move just SUCKS. It leaves the terran with no good choices.
The key is to just place a marine or mine in the attack path.
The problem isn't scouting it. The problem is defending it....
On January 25 2015 08:37 Quateras wrote: Ugh, that move by Kane is what i hate the most when i get TvZ as random.
If you go back and defend, you still lose 1 or maybe even 2 CC#s and the Zerg sits on 4 base and simply wins with economy. If you go and attack you get overwhelmed by 100 banes while you lose all CC's, production and co to Mutas at your base :S
well played
Yeah I main terran and that move just SUCKS. It leaves the terran with no good choices.
The key is to just place a marine or mine in the attack path.
The problem isn't scouting it. The problem is defending it....
If you scout it early enough you can get back in time without losing anything (watch Taeja for how to do this well--its how he murders Life almost every single time they play) and if you are quick enough you can trap the zerg if they commit to the counter. You shouldn't lose your fourth anyway; it's generally pretty sloppy to float it out without being 100% sure that it'll be safe until it morphs into a PF.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
20%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend qxc vs Kane Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend qxc vs Kane Game 4?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
50%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
33%
★★★- Good game (1)
17%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend qxc vs Kane Game 4?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend qxc vs Kane Game 5?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
40%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
20%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
20%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
20%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend qxc vs Kane Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On January 25 2015 08:37 Quateras wrote: Ugh, that move by Kane is what i hate the most when i get TvZ as random.
If you go back and defend, you still lose 1 or maybe even 2 CC#s and the Zerg sits on 4 base and simply wins with economy. If you go and attack you get overwhelmed by 100 banes while you lose all CC's, production and co to Mutas at your base :S
well played
Yeah I main terran and that move just SUCKS. It leaves the terran with no good choices.
The key is to just place a marine or mine in the attack path.
The problem isn't scouting it. The problem is defending it....
If you scout it early enough you can get back in time without losing anything (watch Taeja for how to do this well--its how he murders Life almost every single time they play) and if you are quick enough you can trap the zerg if they commit to the counter. You shouldn't lose your fourth anyway; it's generally pretty sloppy to float it out without being 100% sure that it'll be safe until it morphs into a PF.
Ah ok. I see what you're saying. Taeja puts lone marines at key points all around the map and then if they die to a large army, he moves his whole army back as well.
What a stomp. Kane's build orders have been insanely solid, and qxc's control was slightly off, and most of all Kane just had the right reads and decisions.
sad for qxc, but he was stomped pretty decisively in two fairly straightforward games. kane is a great player, but he's not a life or soo where you can just say "ok, mismatch." i think qxc wanted to be beating guys like kane and ascending on NA, but he wasn't getting it done. hope to see him again
On January 25 2015 08:52 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Damn NA production >>> EU
NA casters >>>>>>>>>>> EU casters. Nathanias is always really really good, and we have Gretorp too! Europe just had Madals and Pengwin lol.
Rotti and Nate have the most #passion of all casters in sc2 (except for BasetradeTV maybe)
rotti and nate do it with another class of professionalism though. no ego and self absorbed in jokes, just quality. both are appropriate for what they do and wouldn't suit each other's place in the scene
On January 25 2015 08:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: He'll be back guys! I have faith!
If you're wrong I'm going to steal one of your slippers
My slippers are more valuable than your life fucker. Fight me.
Only one slipper SGTK
But you've got me worried. What do I do if I break into his house to steal one of his slippers and find out that you've already stolen it? Go for the socks instead?
On January 25 2015 08:58 BronzeKnee wrote: If Kane and Naniwa somehow meet during any round of the WCS global finals, that would be epic and I'd pay money to see it. Kane needs to keep this up.
I want Polt to beat Naniwa TBH. Retire him for the 2nd time.
On January 25 2015 08:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: He'll be back guys! I have faith!
If you're wrong I'm going to steal one of your slippers
My slippers are more valuable than your life fucker. Fight me.
Only one slipper SGTK
But you've got me worried. What do I do if I break into his house to steal one of his slippers and find out that you've already stolen it? Go for the socks instead?
On January 25 2015 08:58 BronzeKnee wrote: If Kane and Naniwa somehow meet during any round of the WCS global finals, that would be epic and I'd pay money to see it. Kane needs to keep this up.
This was one of the series that both impresses me and makes me worry for the winner. He obviously outclassed qxc, and was never off his rhythm. But what will happen when he faces a player that can disrupt his play and force him to takes blows as well as deliver them? Its a very different set of skills, and one that isn't honed as well by ladder.
On January 25 2015 08:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: He'll be back guys! I have faith!
If you're wrong I'm going to steal one of your slippers
My slippers are more valuable than your life fucker. Fight me.
Only one slipper SGTK
I value both of them equally, and even one of them = one penev
You'll never catch me, on one slipper
What if it turns out he also has running shoes?
Bwah, he's Canadian. I'm not worried
I'll beat you with a hockey stick. Wearing my skates becasue you stole my other footwear.
Today, I learned that hockey is really dangerous for other people.
One of my fondest memories from my childhood was watching 2 girls in hockey gear beat up a drunk guy with their sticks after he grabbed them on the ass. I must have laughed for an hour. Hockey is amazing, even when it's not actively being hockey.
On January 25 2015 08:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: He'll be back guys! I have faith!
If you're wrong I'm going to steal one of your slippers
My slippers are more valuable than your life fucker. Fight me.
Only one slipper SGTK
But you've got me worried. What do I do if I break into his house to steal one of his slippers and find out that you've already stolen it? Go for the socks instead?
Maybe he wears contacts? SGTK?
glasses, but I have 2 pairs so he couldn't even do that!
On January 25 2015 08:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: He'll be back guys! I have faith!
If you're wrong I'm going to steal one of your slippers
My slippers are more valuable than your life fucker. Fight me.
Only one slipper SGTK
But you've got me worried. What do I do if I break into his house to steal one of his slippers and find out that you've already stolen it? Go for the socks instead?
Maybe he wears contacts? SGTK?
glasses, but I have 2 pairs so he couldn't even do that!
On January 25 2015 08:52 Penev wrote: [quote] If you're wrong I'm going to steal one of your slippers
My slippers are more valuable than your life fucker. Fight me.
Only one slipper SGTK
I value both of them equally, and even one of them = one penev
You'll never catch me, on one slipper
What if it turns out he also has running shoes?
Bwah, he's Canadian. I'm not worried
I'll beat you with a hockey stick. Wearing my skates becasue you stole my other footwear.
Today, I learned that hockey is really dangerous for other people.
One of my fondest memories from my childhood was watching 2 girls in hockey gear beat up a drunk guy with their sticks after he grabbed them on the ass. I must have laughed for an hour. Hockey is amazing, even when it's not activiely being hockey.
On January 25 2015 08:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: He'll be back guys! I have faith!
If you're wrong I'm going to steal one of your slippers
My slippers are more valuable than your life fucker. Fight me.
Only one slipper SGTK
But you've got me worried. What do I do if I break into his house to steal one of his slippers and find out that you've already stolen it? Go for the socks instead?
Maybe he wears contacts? SGTK?
glasses, but I have 2 pairs so he couldn't even do that!
On January 25 2015 08:58 BronzeKnee wrote: If Kane and Naniwa somehow meet during any round of the WCS global finals, that would be epic and I'd pay money to see it. Kane needs to keep this up.
This was one of the series that both impresses me and makes me worry for the winner. He obviously outclassed qxc, and was never off his rhythm. But what will happen when he faces a player that can disrupt his play and force him to takes blows as well as deliver them? Its a very different set of skills, and one that isn't honed as well by ladder.
It's not as if Polt is simply a passive force himself.
On January 25 2015 08:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: He'll be back guys! I have faith!
If you're wrong I'm going to steal one of your slippers
My slippers are more valuable than your life fucker. Fight me.
Only one slipper SGTK
But you've got me worried. What do I do if I break into his house to steal one of his slippers and find out that you've already stolen it? Go for the socks instead?
Maybe he wears contacts? SGTK?
glasses, but I have 2 pairs so he couldn't even do that!
Np. I'll steal the right lenses for both.
I'd steal your life! YOU ONLY GOT ONE OF THOSE
If QXC doesn't come back you'll end up in jail.. With one slipper and 2 pairs of glasses without the right lenses
On January 25 2015 08:58 BronzeKnee wrote: If Kane and Naniwa somehow meet during any round of the WCS global finals, that would be epic and I'd pay money to see it. Kane needs to keep this up.
This was one of the series that both impresses me and makes me worry for the winner. He obviously outclassed qxc, and was never off his rhythm. But what will happen when he faces a player that can disrupt his play and force him to takes blows as well as deliver them? Its a very different set of skills, and one that isn't honed as well by ladder.
It's not as if Polt is simply a passive force himself.
puCK has been out-engaging Guitarcheese the whole while, but the economic edge is really against him. Guitarcheese doesn't have any tech against templar though.
Guitarcheese does not try to spread creep and lost 50% of his army in an attack before the other half was even close to his opponents base (when he maxed out the first time) =O and somehow he is still in the game ^^
Can't believe that commentary... It's been how many months now in which we have seen those 3base mass stalker/sentry macro builds that have no problem combating roach/hydra?
On January 25 2015 09:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Well, units with micro potential > units wiht no micro potential
To be fair a lot of why Puck has been doing well is because he's been cutting off Guitarcheese's concave and creating a better concave himself. Guitarcheese could be doing that but Puck seems to be a lot better at anticipating his opponent's positioning.
Stalkers a my number one most feared/hated unit.. i cannot even tell you how often i lost vs Protoss that just massed stalkers. As a Zerg you need to work reaaaally hard to kill blinkstalker-only armys.
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On January 25 2015 09:19 Big J wrote: Can't believe that commentary... It's been how many months now in which we have seen those 3base mass stalker/sentry macro builds that have no problem combating roach/hydra?
It's a leftover from the days when casters managed to convince people that roach/hydra countered gateway units. That mostly happens because the zerg is usually so far ahead in supply when the fight happens that protoss just gets overwhelmed. At equal army supply, 3+ blink stalkers can clown on roach/hydra all day. You need ultra/infestor or swarm hosts to deal with this many blink stalkers.
On January 25 2015 09:21 Captain Peabody wrote: Apparently High Templar counter infestors.
HT's counter anything clumped that hard.
This is 100% true. Once I killed 15 BCs with only high templars.
HT counter everything tbh
Well, in this game, I died to mass zergling.
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait... you killed the battlecruisers with Templar. And then died to the zerglings? Because your Tempests couldn't kill them fast enough? :D
On January 25 2015 09:21 Captain Peabody wrote: Apparently High Templar counter infestors.
HT's counter anything clumped that hard.
This is 100% true. Once I killed 15 BCs with only high templars.
HT counter everything tbh
Well, in this game, I died to mass zergling.
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait... you killed the battlecruisers with Templar. And then died to the zerglings? Because your Tempests couldn't kill them fast enough? :D
On January 25 2015 09:34 rotta wrote: Also, never forget:
I wonder how modern builds would look like with this. Like, say TvP... Protoss has a hard time these days just getting the templar with storms up. Now research a 2min, 150/150 upgrade before that. Obviously it would just be better eventually, but I wonder what Protoss would go for first and how they'd survive if they'd tried to get both.
On January 25 2015 09:34 rotta wrote: Also, never forget:
I wonder how modern builds would look like with this. Like, say TvP... Protoss has a hard time these days just getting the templar with storms up. Now research a 2min, 150/150 upgrade before that. Obviously it would just be better eventually, but I wonder what Protoss would go for first and how they'd survive if they'd tried to get both.
I have the impression that Terran would be a lot better at all-inning in that environment. And would have a 40% winrate in the match-up.
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Your vote: Recommend puCK vs Guitarcheese Game 3?
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On January 25 2015 09:56 The_Templar wrote: From watching these games, I have concluded that Guitarcheese would be much better if he didn't make hydralisks.
Those games doesnt make sense.... GuitarCheese is always sooo far behind in supply.. Even when both players are just macroing, doing nothing guitarcheese has always 5/10 supply less than the protoss player D:
it was pretty simple actually.. guitarcheese suicided a lot of shit to kill the third but not much of puck's army.. he would've won easy if he sacked the gold to buy time for SH and more units cuz puck was allin. instead he got needlessly greedy and lost cuz he didn't have time to remake enough stuff.
On January 25 2015 10:00 Faefae wrote: Those games doesnt make sense.... GuitarCheese is always sooo far behind in supply.. Even when both players are just macroing, doing nothing guitarcheese has always 5/10 supply less than the protoss player D:
He is not making enough drones. He was on 55 v 65 harvesters most of that game. He was effectively all in with the hydra/ling attacks. He did kill the third but lost his entire army, so Puck just walked over him.
Walking your hosts up and burrowing in front of archons isn't a great idea either.
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Poll: Recommend puCK vs Guitarcheese Game 5?
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50%
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On January 25 2015 10:15 [PkF] Wire wrote: To be honest they were very evenly matched and Guitarcheese just made some mistakes he'll kick himself hard for doing.
Its interesting that despite being very evenly matched their strengths lie in very different places.
On January 25 2015 10:15 [PkF] Wire wrote: To be honest they were very evenly matched and Guitarcheese just made some mistakes he'll kick himself hard for doing.
Its interesting that despite being very evenly matched their strengths lie in very different places.
ye, Guitarcheese is really good at making hydras and puCK is really good at defending a lot of hydras
On January 25 2015 10:17 [PkF] Wire wrote: Easier to say as a viewer, but not getting detection after sniping your opponent's third and getting in such a good position seemed REALLY dumb to me.
a lot of pros will just forget things like that. I think Day[9] said it very eloquently once; "A good player will think about the ways they can win in the game they're in, but a great player will think about the ways they will lose the game they're in, and respond appropriately."
On January 25 2015 10:17 [PkF] Wire wrote: Easier to say as a viewer, but not getting detection after sniping your opponent's third and getting in such a good position seemed REALLY dumb to me.
a lot of pros will just forget things like that. I think Day[9] said it very eloquently once; "A good player will think about the ways they can win in the game they're in, but a great player will think about the ways they will lose the game they're in, and respond appropriately."
that's why I call myself a great player when I think I can lose to DT's, 7 gates and 2 base colossus and prepare for everything
On January 25 2015 10:17 [PkF] Wire wrote: Easier to say as a viewer, but not getting detection after sniping your opponent's third and getting in such a good position seemed REALLY dumb to me.
a lot of pros will just forget things like that. I think Day[9] said it very eloquently once; "A good player will think about the ways they can win in the game they're in, but a great player will think about the ways they will lose the game they're in, and respond appropriately."
that's why I call myself a great player when I think I can lose to DT's, 7 gates and 2 base colossus and prepare for everything
Being prepared for everything is the same thing as being prepared for nothing.
On January 25 2015 10:17 [PkF] Wire wrote: Easier to say as a viewer, but not getting detection after sniping your opponent's third and getting in such a good position seemed REALLY dumb to me.
a lot of pros will just forget things like that. I think Day[9] said it very eloquently once; "A good player will think about the ways they can win in the game they're in, but a great player will think about the ways they will lose the game they're in, and respond appropriately."
that's why I call myself a great player when I think I can lose to DT's, 7 gates and 2 base colossus and prepare for everything
Being prepared for everything is the same thing as being prepared for nothing.
On January 25 2015 10:17 [PkF] Wire wrote: Easier to say as a viewer, but not getting detection after sniping your opponent's third and getting in such a good position seemed REALLY dumb to me.
a lot of pros will just forget things like that. I think Day[9] said it very eloquently once; "A good player will think about the ways they can win in the game they're in, but a great player will think about the ways they will lose the game they're in, and respond appropriately."
that's why I call myself a great player when I think I can lose to DT's, 7 gates and 2 base colossus and prepare for everything
Being prepared for everything is the same thing as being prepared for nothing.
On January 25 2015 10:26 Jer99 wrote: i kind of want to see polt lose a game
Well if no upset is occurring (and honestly I want Polt to be in those WCS) I'd rather have the series going down to a quick 3-0 with three marine hellion elevators.
On January 25 2015 10:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: Do you think this series will be equally, more or a lot more one-sided than Snute - PsiOnic and Bunny - PtitDrogo ?
It'll be more one-sided than ForGG/MarineLorD... wait.
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On January 25 2015 10:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: Do you think this series will be equally, more or a lot more one-sided than Snute - PsiOnic and Bunny - PtitDrogo ?
On January 25 2015 10:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: Do you think this series will be equally, more or a lot more one-sided than Snute - PsiOnic and Bunny - PtitDrogo ?
It'll be more one-sided than ForGG/MarineLorD... wait.
On January 25 2015 10:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: Do you think this series will be equally, more or a lot more one-sided than Snute - PsiOnic and Bunny - PtitDrogo ?
It'll be more one-sided than ForGG/MarineLorD... wait.
On January 25 2015 10:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: Do you think this series will be equally, more or a lot more one-sided than Snute - PsiOnic and Bunny - PtitDrogo ?
It'll be more one-sided than ForGG/MarineLorD... wait.
On January 25 2015 10:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: Do you think this series will be equally, more or a lot more one-sided than Snute - PsiOnic and Bunny - PtitDrogo ?
More onesided than Bunny vs PtitDrogo Game 3.
In that game didn't Bunny do a 2base widow mine marine drop, kill like 15 workers, and then slaughter PtitDrogo's followup allin?
On January 25 2015 10:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: Do you think this series will be equally, more or a lot more one-sided than Snute - PsiOnic and Bunny - PtitDrogo ?
It'll be more one-sided than ForGG/MarineLorD... wait.
On January 25 2015 10:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: Do you think this series will be equally, more or a lot more one-sided than Snute - PsiOnic and Bunny - PtitDrogo ?
More onesided than Bunny vs PtitDrogo Game 3.
In that game didn't Bunny do a 2base widow mine marine drop, kill like 15 workers, and then slaughter PtitDrogo's followup allin?
On January 25 2015 10:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: Do you think this series will be equally, more or a lot more one-sided than Snute - PsiOnic and Bunny - PtitDrogo ?
It'll be more one-sided than ForGG/MarineLorD... wait.
On January 25 2015 10:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: Do you think this series will be equally, more or a lot more one-sided than Snute - PsiOnic and Bunny - PtitDrogo ?
More onesided than Bunny vs PtitDrogo Game 3.
In that game didn't Bunny do a 2base widow mine marine drop, kill like 15 workers, and then slaughter PtitDrogo's followup allin?
On January 25 2015 10:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: Do you think this series will be equally, more or a lot more one-sided than Snute - PsiOnic and Bunny - PtitDrogo ?
It'll be more one-sided than ForGG/MarineLorD... wait.
On January 25 2015 10:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: Do you think this series will be equally, more or a lot more one-sided than Snute - PsiOnic and Bunny - PtitDrogo ?
It'll be more one-sided than ForGG/MarineLorD... wait.
On January 25 2015 10:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: Do you think this series will be equally, more or a lot more one-sided than Snute - PsiOnic and Bunny - PtitDrogo ?
It'll be more one-sided than ForGG/MarineLorD... wait.
Is Polt astonishingly good to manage to make someone who is, I guess, at least semi-pro and solid GM level on NA, look like a diamond player, or is Semper not playing his A-game ?
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On January 25 2015 10:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: Do you think this series will be equally, more or a lot more one-sided than Snute - PsiOnic and Bunny - PtitDrogo ?
It'll be more one-sided than ForGG/MarineLorD... wait.
never count out the french
Unless its the case of ForGG/Dayshi
or France/Germany
WW1. Battle of the Marne. Never count out France.
The Germans were winning at Marne until the German High Command ordered their troops to fall back and start building trenches.
On January 25 2015 10:46 [PkF] Wire wrote: Is Polt astonishingly good to manage to make someone who is, I guess, at least semi-pro and solid GM level on NA, look like a diamond player, or is Semper not playing his A-game ?
On January 25 2015 10:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: Do you think this series will be equally, more or a lot more one-sided than Snute - PsiOnic and Bunny - PtitDrogo ?
It'll be more one-sided than ForGG/MarineLorD... wait.
never count out the french
Unless its the case of ForGG/Dayshi
or France/Germany
WW1. Battle of the Marne. Never count out France.
The Germans were winning at Marne until the German High Command ordered their troops to fall back and start building trenches.
On January 25 2015 10:46 [PkF] Wire wrote: Is Polt astonishingly good to manage to make someone who is, I guess, at least semi-pro and solid GM level on NA, look like a diamond player, or is Semper not playing his A-game ?
TvT has a tendency to sometimes make people only a little bit apart in skill look like a Bronze vs. GM match. (For example, see any game Bunny ever plays against any Korean terran ever.) The weird thing is the other half of the time two players far apart in skill look almost even.
On January 25 2015 10:46 [PkF] Wire wrote: Is Polt astonishingly good to manage to make someone who is, I guess, at least semi-pro and solid GM level on NA, look like a diamond player, or is Semper not playing his A-game ?
Semper plays on EU and is fairly high GM. He really hasn't had a chance to show his A-game yet, G1 was unlucky drop timing, and G2 was just a straight up slaughter. Hard to really say how he's playing. Polt being a monster doesn't help his cause either
On January 25 2015 10:51 [PkF] Wire wrote: I doubt the game will last long on Catallena. Such a good map to put early game agression on with elevators, drops or air attacks.
I predict a 7 minute game. Semper goes hellion banshee, polt goes for marine widow mine or marine hellion drop
On January 25 2015 10:51 [PkF] Wire wrote: I doubt the game will last long on Catallena. Such a good map to put early game agression on with elevators, drops or air attacks.
I predict a 7 minute game. Semper goes hellion banshee, polt goes for marine widow mine or marine hellion drop
On January 25 2015 10:51 [PkF] Wire wrote: I doubt the game will last long on Catallena. Such a good map to put early game agression on with elevators, drops or air attacks.
I predict a 7 minute game. Semper goes hellion banshee, polt goes for marine widow mine or marine hellion drop
On January 25 2015 10:47 jakethesnake wrote: Semper needs to bust out some wild build here like some Templar 1 base BC.
It could work.
I suppose Polt could fall asleep.
Thanks nony
Hmm... I don't get that one?
In some WCG way back, Nony was way far behind in a game, but because of technical issues the game disconnected. At that point the admin had to either give the win to Nony's opponent or re-game. Nony tried to argue that it should be a re-game since there was a distinct possibility that the opponent could slip on his chair and knock himself unconscious and thus let Nony back into the game.
Incontrol and I think every other player there called out bullshit.
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50%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
50%
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Well to be fair Semper clawed his way back into the game to the point I thought he could drag it a bit longer, and then that drop happened. A very unfortunate series of events.
On January 25 2015 10:47 jakethesnake wrote: Semper needs to bust out some wild build here like some Templar 1 base BC.
It could work.
I suppose Polt could fall asleep.
Thanks nony
Hmm... I don't get that one?
In some WCG way back, Nony was way far behind in a game, but because of technical issues the game disconnected. At that point the admin had to either give the win to Nony's opponent or re-game. Nony tried to argue that it should be a re-game since there was a distinct possibility that the opponent could slip on his chair and knock himself unconscious and thus let Nony back into the game.
Incontrol and I think every other player there called out bullshit.
Really, I won't think bad of Semper, things like this happened. I mean he qualified finely for Challenger, maybe with a bit of luck, but who cares. I think he is better than what is shown today.
ouch... well, congrats to Semper for getting here. $2k isnt bad, and he gets to say he lost to the eventual champ. I mean, Polt was winning WCS when it was chalk full of koreans... now there's just him, Hydra, Violet and forGG... pretty good odds for Polt.
On January 25 2015 11:00 PinoKotsBeer wrote: Semper was very unlucky, also the nerves might be a factor. Despite the loss, he can be proud on his achievement.
For sure, all of us at Gravity are super proud of him Definitely a good experience playing against Polt in WCS in front of 10,000 people.
On January 25 2015 11:02 Dragoonstorm7 wrote: ouch... well, congrats to Semper for getting here. $2k isnt bad, and he gets to say he lost to the eventual champ. I mean, Polt was winning WCS when it was chalk full of koreans... now there's just him, Hydra, Violet and forGG... pretty good odds for Polt.
Kane beat Polt in the qualifiers though. In fact, after today, I would say Kane is more dangerous than ForGG
On January 25 2015 11:02 Dragoonstorm7 wrote: ouch... well, congrats to Semper for getting here. $2k isnt bad, and he gets to say he lost to the eventual champ. I mean, Polt was winning WCS when it was chalk full of koreans... now there's just him, Hydra, Violet and forGG... pretty good odds for Polt.
Kane beat Polt in the qualifiers though. In fact, after today, I would say Kane is more dangerous than ForGG
True, but one bo3 in qualifiers shouldnt be an indicator of overall ability. I watched those games too, and to me at least polt just looked off that day. Kane is a great player and i think he can do really well, but at the end of the day this is Polt, and I think we all know that if Polt plays to his true ability, everyone else is toast.
On January 25 2015 11:02 Dragoonstorm7 wrote: ouch... well, congrats to Semper for getting here. $2k isnt bad, and he gets to say he lost to the eventual champ. I mean, Polt was winning WCS when it was chalk full of koreans... now there's just him, Hydra, Violet and forGG... pretty good odds for Polt.
He didn't play Hydra though... The guy who is actually going to be the champ
On January 25 2015 11:02 Dragoonstorm7 wrote: ouch... well, congrats to Semper for getting here. $2k isnt bad, and he gets to say he lost to the eventual champ. I mean, Polt was winning WCS when it was chalk full of koreans... now there's just him, Hydra, Violet and forGG... pretty good odds for Polt.
He didn't play Hydra though... The guy who is actually going to be the champ
On January 25 2015 11:02 Dragoonstorm7 wrote: ouch... well, congrats to Semper for getting here. $2k isnt bad, and he gets to say he lost to the eventual champ. I mean, Polt was winning WCS when it was chalk full of koreans... now there's just him, Hydra, Violet and forGG... pretty good odds for Polt.
He didn't play Hydra though... The guy who is actually going to be the champ
What if Hydra loses in challenger? ForGG almost did it.
On January 25 2015 11:02 Dragoonstorm7 wrote: ouch... well, congrats to Semper for getting here. $2k isnt bad, and he gets to say he lost to the eventual champ. I mean, Polt was winning WCS when it was chalk full of koreans... now there's just him, Hydra, Violet and forGG... pretty good odds for Polt.
He didn't play Hydra though... The guy who is actually going to be the champ
What if Hydra loses in challenger? ForGG almost did it.
On January 25 2015 11:02 Dragoonstorm7 wrote: ouch... well, congrats to Semper for getting here. $2k isnt bad, and he gets to say he lost to the eventual champ. I mean, Polt was winning WCS when it was chalk full of koreans... now there's just him, Hydra, Violet and forGG... pretty good odds for Polt.
He didn't play Hydra though... The guy who is actually going to be the champ
Well ok, youre probably right my point was Polt is top 2 in potential ability. and ill all probability he will only lose when he plays Hydra.
why do protoss players try to play into the late game vs players like scarlett or snute who are rly good with unit control and sh? why not just finish them off before they can make snutehosts?
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★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
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Your vote: Recommend Scarlett vs Astrea Game 1?
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gold bases early like that are actually extremely bad and that attack was never going to work even if astrea went afk. scarlett just macro.... your macro is so much stronger.
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Your vote: Recommend Scarlett vs Astrea Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Weird that Scarlett didn't really react to the oracle. She saw it with both an overlord and a ling. If Astrea had controlled better it could have been really bad.
Being a while since I watched some sc2 soooo.. Do zerg not even try stuff now ? They go roach hydra for defense into swarmhost " I don't want to lose but i'm not really interested in winning either" ? :o
On January 25 2015 11:51 Noocta wrote: Being a while since I watched some sc2 soooo.. Do zerg not even try stuff now ? They go roach hydra for defense into swarmhost " I don't want to lose but i'm not really interested in winning either" ? :o
nah theres still roach hydra viper, ling hydra, and muta games
On January 25 2015 11:51 Noocta wrote: Being a while since I watched some sc2 soooo.. Do zerg not even try stuff now ? They go roach hydra for defense into swarmhost " I don't want to lose but i'm not really interested in winning either" ? :o
nah theres still roach hydra viper, ling hydra, and muta games
Nice. I guess the map here is just very advantageous for that.
On January 25 2015 11:51 Noocta wrote: Being a while since I watched some sc2 soooo.. Do zerg not even try stuff now ? They go roach hydra for defense into swarmhost " I don't want to lose but i'm not really interested in winning either" ? :o
nah theres still roach hydra viper, ling hydra, and muta games
Nice. I guess the map here is just very advantageous for that.
On January 25 2015 11:51 Noocta wrote: Being a while since I watched some sc2 soooo.. Do zerg not even try stuff now ? They go roach hydra for defense into swarmhost " I don't want to lose but i'm not really interested in winning either" ? :o
try what stuff? aggressive "stuff"? generally lair or prelair aggression is easily shut down with forcefields which we just saw in game 2. alsp scarlett is the player who beat parting with a 1 base burrow roach proxy hatch allin so yes she will "try stuff"
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★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
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★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
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14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Scarlett vs Astrea Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On January 25 2015 12:11 stuchiu wrote: She really is only playing dota and using the unit that most resembles moba play.
and then there was yorkie today, trying to convince me scarlett was on the same skilllevel as nani
damn son called out grudgematch on the horizon?
i actually started playing LoL, i don't think i can take him atm
You remember when you faced me in the LRSL Blizzcon in 2013? As far as I know, Yorkie is one or two leagues better than that. I think you could take him.
On January 25 2015 12:11 stuchiu wrote: She really is only playing dota and using the unit that most resembles moba play.
the viper? or swarmhosts spawning creeps?
both. The swarmhost is the rax constantly spawning units to attack. The vipers are the hero units. She even made 10 of them to die. Too bad they dont respawn in sc2.
I'm really enjoying how chill the stream is by the way
Gretorp and Nathanias are nice. No unneeded screaming, not trying to fill every silence moment, etc Very relaxing to watch. Usually I have to mute streams because the casting tire me out lol
these straight into swarm host strategies are so bad... Astrea just does whatever the fuck he wants and you should never let that happen with a Protoss.
On January 25 2015 12:11 stuchiu wrote: She really is only playing dota and using the unit that most resembles moba play.
and then there was yorkie today, trying to convince me scarlett was on the same skilllevel as nani
damn son called out grudgematch on the horizon?
i actually started playing LoL, i don't think i can take him atm
You remember when you faced me in the LRSL Blizzcon in 2013? As far as I know, Yorkie is one or two leagues better than that. I think you could take him.
oh ok, then i guess i can take him. pls cheer for me. i will try to show good games
On January 25 2015 12:18 Big J wrote: these straight into swarm host strategies are so bad... Astrea just does whatever the fuck he wants and you should never let that happen with a Protoss.
I feel like she's trying to get away with it just to get a relatively easy finish. :/
On January 25 2015 12:18 Big J wrote: these straight into swarm host strategies are so bad... Astrea just does whatever the fuck he wants and you should never let that happen with a Protoss.
She's really trying her best to not win. This is already over.
On January 25 2015 12:18 Big J wrote: these straight into swarm host strategies are so bad... Astrea just does whatever the fuck he wants and you should never let that happen with a Protoss.
She's really trying her best to not win. This is already over.
On January 25 2015 12:18 Big J wrote: these straight into swarm host strategies are so bad... Astrea just does whatever the fuck he wants and you should never let that happen with a Protoss.
I feel like she's trying to get away with it just to get a relatively easy finish. :/
If she wants that she could just raceswitch. Already shown that she's capable of that.
On January 25 2015 12:18 Big J wrote: these straight into swarm host strategies are so bad... Astrea just does whatever the fuck he wants and you should never let that happen with a Protoss.
She's really trying her best to not win. This is already over.
is she too far behind? im not into pvz.
she can still make things work but the map is super not in her favor. Protoss can expand everywhere.
On January 25 2015 12:18 Big J wrote: these straight into swarm host strategies are so bad... Astrea just does whatever the fuck he wants and you should never let that happen with a Protoss.
She's really trying her best to not win. This is already over.
is she too far behind? im not into pvz.
The longer this game goes, the more favored Protoss, is, and this is going super long from here.
I don't understand swarmhost games anymore, it seems like the Protoss now has thousand ways to counter it. And it's all so relaxing, you don't seem to need to be an elite player to pull it off, it's all tactics and less execution.
On January 25 2015 12:21 plotspot wrote: I don't understand swarmhost games anymore, it seems like the Protoss now has thousand ways to counter it. And it's all so relaxing, you don't seem to need to be an elite player to pull it off, it's all tactics and less execution.
On January 25 2015 12:21 plotspot wrote: I don't understand swarmhost games anymore, it seems like the Protoss now has thousand ways to counter it. And it's all so relaxing, you don't seem to need to be an elite player to pull it off, it's all tactics and less execution.
Just feels like scarlett is not doing much tho
she's literally turtling and waiting for hte protoss to build and roll over her.
On January 25 2015 12:21 plotspot wrote: I don't understand swarmhost games anymore, it seems like the Protoss now has thousand ways to counter it. And it's all so relaxing, you don't seem to need to be an elite player to pull it off, it's all tactics and less execution.
Scarlett is not playing to her usual level, usually a swarm host player needs to do ling/hydra attacks to be able to get half the map without dying to warp prism harras.
On January 25 2015 12:21 plotspot wrote: I don't understand swarmhost games anymore, it seems like the Protoss now has thousand ways to counter it. And it's all so relaxing, you don't seem to need to be an elite player to pull it off, it's all tactics and less execution.
Swarmhosts were never Neo bl/infestor. They were always beatable.
As someone who almost exclusively watches the korean scene....Why are these casters acting like a mothership+ tempests is a strange thing to do vs swarnhosts? Isn't this completely standard?
On January 25 2015 12:23 Captain Peabody wrote: Man, seeing the Mothership makes me nostalgic for Archon toilet days. Now those were clearly the glory days of PvZ.
On January 25 2015 12:23 Captain Peabody wrote: Man, seeing the Mothership makes me nostalgic for Archon toilet days. Now those were clearly the glory days of PvZ.
Dude, selective memory
Archon toilet vs BL Infestor was a shitty time, like a really really shitty one x)
We had some great games out of it ( like all the Polt vs BL/infestor crazy surround, and Styephano vs kiwikaki, etc ) but the rest was...damn
Going swarmhosts works if you control the game with them. Letting the Protoss do anything they want was never a good strategy. From the start the top Protoss players could usually beat swarmhosts which is why it didn't become as ubiquitous in Korea as the foreign scene. By now most Protosses know how to beat it. Not that its easy even now.
On January 25 2015 12:23 Captain Peabody wrote: Man, seeing the Mothership makes me nostalgic for Archon toilet days. Now those were clearly the glory days of PvZ.
Dude, selective memory
Archon toilet vs BL Infestor was a shitty time, like a really really shitty one x)
We had some great games out of it ( like all the Polt vs BL/infestor crazy surround, and Styephano vs kiwikaki, etc ) but the rest was...damn
I was being mostly sarcastic. There were a few really crazy good games, though, and it was always funny at least. Probably more entertaining than this.
On January 25 2015 12:28 Circumstance wrote: The next step in the progression of this composition is a strong force of Corruptors, then Queens. Lots and lots of Queens.
i agree, but only after she locks down the bottom right. She needs minerals.
On January 25 2015 12:26 Lexender wrote: These swarm host games makes me fear for the next balance patch, if they don't do things right tempest would reign supreme.
And I hope to god they don't make them LotV tempest, those are way worst
I actually think, destiny might has overlooked something. It is true that zerg has no way to deal with uber-late game army if controlled properly, however...the only reason they can tech up to it is, because zerg does not pressure with current swarmhost. Hopefully the new swarmhosts with all their harassment and forcefield counter potential will force much more scrappier late games.
And this is why I don't play HOTS ladder... Vipers are stupid.
Zerg needs a good end-game unit, like Broodlords were in WOL. Vipers are not that, they just have a skilless pull ability that just allows your crappy tier 2 units to isolate and overwhelm tier 3 units, making tier 3 useless, removing variety from the game.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
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★★★- Good game (2)
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★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
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8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Scarlett vs Astrea Game 4?
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On January 25 2015 12:28 Circumstance wrote: The next step in the progression of this composition is a strong force of Corruptors, then Queens. Lots and lots of Queens.
I don't like queens in that comp much. Against colossus they just die, and if you have enough corruptors to wipe out the colossus presence, there's other ways to win.
On January 25 2015 12:30 BronzeKnee wrote: And this is why I don't play HOTS ladder... Vipers are stupid.
Zerg needs a good end-game unit, like Broodlords were in WOL. Vipers are not that, they just have a skilless pull ability that just allows your crappy tier 2 units to isolate and overwhelm tier 3 units, making tier 3 useless, removing variety from the game.
I hate how tempest removed 100% of brood lords real end game power
On January 25 2015 12:30 BronzeKnee wrote: And this is why I don't play HOTS ladder... Vipers are stupid.
Zerg needs a good end-game unit, like Broodlords were in WOL. Vipers are not that, they just have a skilless pull ability that just allows your crappy tier 2 units to isolate and overwhelm tier 3 units, making tier 3 useless, removing variety from the game.
On January 25 2015 12:42 Noocta wrote: lol, did she alt tabbed into twitter ? Tweet from her phone during the game, or it's finis and she spoiled it from the delay ? x)
5 minutes delay.
The most surprising result of the Challenger League I guess.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
25%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
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★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
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★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
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12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Scarlett vs Astrea Game 5?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On January 25 2015 12:44 Captain Peabody wrote: So is Scarlett basically retired from SC2 or what? I haven't been following her.
Seems like a lot of players are retiring lately. Seems like SC2 will turn into a niche esport until LoTV. Doesn't matter to me as long as there is a healthy and competitive Korean scene. At least there are still some very good European foreigners.
Though, honestly, it's awesome that Astrea is back. He was the biggest up-and-comer in the region at about this time last year, but his hype train essentially ended when Illusion stopped him in Challenger. He was inactive for a while, but Max Angel is in Global Premier and is one hell of a dark horse.
Wow that was some bad play. A mostly NA wcs should have been easy money for scarlett, but it looks like all that dota caused her play to drop off a cliff.
On January 25 2015 12:47 Canucklehead wrote: Wow that was some bad play. A mostly NA wcs should have been easy money for scarlett, but it looks like all that dota caused her play to drop off a cliff.
Is not the fact that shes playing dota, is the fact that she isn't playing starcraft
On January 25 2015 12:47 Canucklehead wrote: Wow that was some bad play. A mostly NA wcs should have been easy money for scarlett, but it looks like all that dota caused her play to drop off a cliff.
On January 25 2015 12:47 Canucklehead wrote: Wow that was some bad play. A mostly NA wcs should have been easy money for scarlett, but it looks like all that dota caused her play to drop off a cliff.
Mostly EU.
Oh wait. Yeah I forgot they combined NA/EU now. Ok then qualifying against NA only competition should have been ezpz for her.
On January 25 2015 12:47 Canucklehead wrote: Wow that was some bad play. A mostly NA wcs should have been easy money for scarlett, but it looks like all that dota caused her play to drop off a cliff.
Is not the fact that shes playing dota, is the fact that she isn't playing starcraft
On January 25 2015 12:46 Phredxor wrote: Didn't really wanna see her in Prem if she's just gonna SH every single game anyway.
We have Firecake, its like she never left at all
Haha, good point.
Actually is there anything out about the timezones it'll be played in? Just wondering if i'll ever be able to catch any of the games live.
I think ro32 is split between burbank an cologne so I assume they play at prime times for their respective times. ro16 will be like a season finals deal.
On January 25 2015 12:49 Captain Peabody wrote: I don't know, there are still a lot of good players around, and a lot of newer faces in WCS. Seems like a pretty natural turnover to me.
Honestly, not a bad thing. It's sad we're losing so many known names but scenes without turn over in who is playing at the top level have also big issues.
SC should be happy there's still young pro hungry for wins and shit.
On January 25 2015 12:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote: this is the worst day of sc2 i've ever watched im a mess
You're saying you don't enjoy crazy, entertaining, mistake-ridden foreigner SC2? Man, you gotta get your priorities straight.
my favorite player and inspiration ever's career has ended for now basically, of course i'm not happy
Sorry about that. It's always tough when your favorites drop out. Most of mine are gone now as well...Stork, Nony, Jinro, Jangbi. With Scarlett, though, you can always hope for a comeback on down the line.
With dedication and practice I don't think wining WCS AM season 1 would have been too tough for Scarlett. Sad time to lose the passion, but if it's not there you can't force it.
Congrats to Astrea, he played really really well and was obviously prepared.
On January 25 2015 12:56 CursOr wrote: With dedication and practice I don't think wining WCS AM season 1 would have been too tough for Scarlett. Sad time to lose the passion, but if it's not there you can't force it.
Congrats to Astrea, he played really really well and was obviously prepared.
Yeah she will probably come back just like MK and Naniwa did. I'm sure most of the pros that left for HoTS will be back eventually for LoTV. You need a change of pace when the results aren't going your way.
On January 25 2015 12:58 showstealer1829 wrote: And with Scarlett now out, I'd like to be the first to congratulate Polt on his WCS America Season 1 victory
Hydra, forGG, and even Snute might have something to say about that :p
On January 25 2015 12:58 showstealer1829 wrote: And with Scarlett now out, I'd like to be the first to congratulate Polt on his WCS America Season 1 victory
Polt's velvet carpet to championship was pre-determined the day region locks were announced
On January 25 2015 12:56 CursOr wrote: With dedication and practice I don't think wining WCS AM season 1 would have been too tough for Scarlett. Sad time to lose the passion, but if it's not there you can't force it.
Congrats to Astrea, he played really really well and was obviously prepared.
idk even in form I don't know if she would be able to beat the top protoss players or Hydra or Polt. Players like Snute and Bunny among foreigners would also have a solid shot at beating her.
On January 25 2015 12:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote: this is the worst day of sc2 i've ever watched im a mess
You're saying you don't enjoy crazy, entertaining, mistake-ridden foreigner SC2? Man, you gotta get your priorities straight.
Just one more day and then 5 days of Korean SC2
And even BIGGER mistakes! Yay!
You will never let go of that revelation stalker walked into dark shrine will you? :p
At least the average level of play is way higher.
Just a single example. Flash failing to construct a wall, Roro going 10-pool Bane and promptly running them all into a hatch, Paralyze's MSC, Solar's whatever-the-hell-that-was against Byul in Proleague, Heart's epitomized tunnel-vision against Super last night - the mistakes Koreans make are SO MUCH BIGGER than anything a foreigner makes, online or off. They simply make fewer overall mistakes and have an esports infrastructure that's so, so, so much more advanced.
On January 25 2015 12:58 showstealer1829 wrote: And with Scarlett now out, I'd like to be the first to congratulate Polt on his WCS America Season 1 victory
Polt's velvet carpet to championship was pre-determined the day region locks were announced
He better improve his TvZ because I was unimpressed in his losses to Hydra and Kane. Other tough zergs out there too.
On January 25 2015 12:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote: this is the worst day of sc2 i've ever watched im a mess
You're saying you don't enjoy crazy, entertaining, mistake-ridden foreigner SC2? Man, you gotta get your priorities straight.
Just one more day and then 5 days of Korean SC2
And even BIGGER mistakes! Yay!
You will never let go of that revelation stalker walked into dark shrine will you? :p
At least the average level of play is way higher.
Just a single example. Flash failing to construct a wall, Roro going 10-pool Bane and promptly running them all into a hatch, Paralyze's MSC, Solar's whatever-the-hell-that-was against Byul in Proleague, Heart's epitomized tunnel-vision against Super last night - the mistakes Koreans make are SO MUCH BIGGER than anything a foreigner makes, online or off. They simply make fewer overall mistakes and have an esports infrastructure that's so, so, so much more advanced.
Foreigners make as large or larger mistakes than Koreans. And the average level of play is higher, I don't think there is anything wrong with saying that.
On January 25 2015 12:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote: this is the worst day of sc2 i've ever watched im a mess
You're saying you don't enjoy crazy, entertaining, mistake-ridden foreigner SC2? Man, you gotta get your priorities straight.
Just one more day and then 5 days of Korean SC2
And even BIGGER mistakes! Yay!
You will never let go of that revelation stalker walked into dark shrine will you? :p
At least the average level of play is way higher.
Just a single example. Flash failing to construct a wall, Roro going 10-pool Bane and promptly running them all into a hatch, Paralyze's MSC, Solar's whatever-the-hell-that-was against Byul in Proleague, Heart's epitomized tunnel-vision against Super last night - the mistakes Koreans make are SO MUCH BIGGER than anything a foreigner makes, online or off. They simply make fewer overall mistakes and have an esports infrastructure that's so, so, so much more advanced.
Foreigners make as large or larger mistakes than Koreans. And the average level of play is higher, I don't think there is anything wrong with saying that.
I disagree with your first statement, hence the examples. And while the average level of play may be higher, I believe that this is merely indicative of how big of a leg up Korea gets on the rest of the planet. But I know better than to prolong this argument for no benefit.
On January 25 2015 12:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote: this is the worst day of sc2 i've ever watched im a mess
You're saying you don't enjoy crazy, entertaining, mistake-ridden foreigner SC2? Man, you gotta get your priorities straight.
Just one more day and then 5 days of Korean SC2
And even BIGGER mistakes! Yay!
You will never let go of that revelation stalker walked into dark shrine will you? :p
At least the average level of play is way higher.
Just a single example. Flash failing to construct a wall, Roro going 10-pool Bane and promptly running them all into a hatch, Paralyze's MSC, Solar's whatever-the-hell-that-was against Byul in Proleague, Heart's epitomized tunnel-vision against Super last night - the mistakes Koreans make are SO MUCH BIGGER than anything a foreigner makes, online or off. They simply make fewer overall mistakes and have an esports infrastructure that's so, so, so much more advanced.
Foreigners make as large or larger mistakes than Koreans. And the average level of play is higher, I don't think there is anything wrong with saying that.
At the tip top yes, but Code A Korean's and even some ro32 Code S players are really the exact same level as your top tier foreigners
On January 25 2015 12:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote: this is the worst day of sc2 i've ever watched im a mess
You're saying you don't enjoy crazy, entertaining, mistake-ridden foreigner SC2? Man, you gotta get your priorities straight.
Just one more day and then 5 days of Korean SC2
And even BIGGER mistakes! Yay!
You will never let go of that revelation stalker walked into dark shrine will you? :p
At least the average level of play is way higher.
Just a single example. Flash failing to construct a wall, Roro going 10-pool Bane and promptly running them all into a hatch, Paralyze's MSC, Solar's whatever-the-hell-that-was against Byul in Proleague, Heart's epitomized tunnel-vision against Super last night - the mistakes Koreans make are SO MUCH BIGGER than anything a foreigner makes, online or off. They simply make fewer overall mistakes and have an esports infrastructure that's so, so, so much more advanced.
Foreigners make as large or larger mistakes than Koreans. And the average level of play is higher, I don't think there is anything wrong with saying that.
At the tip top yes, but Code A Korean's and even some ro32 Code S players are really the exact same level as your top tier foreigners
Which is why I say the average level of play is higher. Cause for every top tier foreigner there are 5-8 Code A/Code S guys that can give them a run for their money.
sucks that scarlett dropped out, but i guess if she doesn't beat astrea she doesn't really deserve it... but at the same time with the way astrea played against her swarm hosts i'm not sure how far he's going to go against zerg anyway.
never really understood why so many people seem to dislike scarlett. the most common reason i see is something like "her fans are annoying/overrate her" which is like... welcome to any popular and skilled player? idk, seems like there's more to cheer for than to dislike. she balance whines sometimes, but so does taeja
Seems about right. Even as a big fan I was very close to picking Astrea, I actually expected him to win, but it felt too wrong. I had a little bit of hope that Scarlett would try but I guess that was proven wrong wasn't it?
On January 25 2015 13:44 brickrd wrote: sucks that scarlett dropped out, but i guess if she doesn't beat astrea she doesn't really deserve it... but at the same time with the way astrea played against her swarm hosts i'm not sure how far he's going to go against zerg anyway.
never really understood why so many people seem to dislike scarlett. the most common reason i see is something like "her fans are annoying/overrate her" which is like... welcome to any popular and skilled player? idk, seems like there's more to cheer for than to dislike. she balance whines sometimes, but so does taeja
excited for kane though
As someone, who disliked her for quite some time, I might comment on that: Her hype was one of the more annoying ones to begin with: Some people called her one of the top foreigners directly after IPL 4, on the base of beating TeriousPrime and Demuslim and taking a game of Oz, which seemed not really a good basis for that call. A week later, she lost a Showmatch to Kas 2-5, but noone seemed to really notice that. Then after Stephano retired, people started to call her "the best foreigner", when there was no question about Naniwa being the no.1 in 2013 and Snute being the number 1 in 2014. Overhype is, on it's own, not a good enough reason to dislike a player, but it's certainly a factor. Also casters, who were commentating her games, seemed to be under the impression, that everyone had to be a fan of her, which I saw no reason to.
Another factor was, that her playstyle could be really annoying at times; I've ssen more than one game, where she took rather huge early game damage, continued to tutrle up with 7-8 spine-crawlers and then somehow won with 2-base mutas or something. Legitimate strategy of course, but if you happen to root for the other player, you still feel a bit betrayed. In her early days, there was also a pretty heavy infestor-focus, which is ofc fine, but wasn't that exciting to watch either. In general I think, that her playstyle wasn't attractive to watch for me, I preferred players like Life,Leenock or Vortix.
Lastly (but probably a huge factor) I often found myself annoyed by the content or tone of her posts in here.
All of those factors combined have influenced me to dislike her until the beginning of the second half of 2014. Idk what exactly happened there, but her comments started to be less annoying and more amusing, her fans started to (at least partly) accept the fact, that she is good, but not top shape Stephano/Naniwa/Snute(/Top-Korean)-good and I haven't seen her turtle behind a dozen spine-crawlers for a really long timec (Her constantly high skill is also a huge factor). On top of that, she actually did some really cool stuff (for example 2v2 with Templar), so she wandered into the rather huge pool of players, I don't have anything for or against.
Sad to see her go, though, maybe not a huge loss for me, but a huge loss for the scene. Also with puck and Astrea qaulifying, one of my favorite useless random statistics is now probably not recoverable anymore (For some time Hasu had earned more than all US protoss combined [counting HuK as Canadian)).
Ha ha ha except for the obvious Polt - Semper I managed to predict everything wrong. Didn't expect Scarlett to go down, but from what I read she was not in top shape. I hope she comes back quickly.
Seems about right. Even as a big fan I was very close to picking Astrea, I actually expected him to win, but it felt too wrong. I had a little bit of hope that Scarlett would try but I guess that was proven wrong wasn't it?
I've always done Liquibets with my Heart, and not my Head. Gotta be passionate. I would have definitely picked Astrea otherwise, as he looked quite a bit better in qualifier, and also probably practiced more.
On January 25 2015 14:28 The_Templar wrote: OK Shellshock, you can gloat about accidentally picking Astrea
dat 4/4 son. Too bad I did mediocre in WCS EU picks
Wow, I don't remember voting for Astrea, but somehow I did and went 4/4 yesterday as well. I guess that lessens the disappointment of the scarlett loss a bit.
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