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[WCS] 2015 Season 1 Challenger: China

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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6328 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 09:45:52
January 12 2015 14:03 GMT
#1
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_WCS_Season_1/Challenger#China



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(Z)iAsonu vs (T)XY

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(Z)TooDming vs (P)Jim

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(Z)XiGua vs (P)Clavie

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(P)MacSed vs (P)Top



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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_WCS_Season_1/Challenger#China



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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
January 12 2015 14:47 GMT
#2
Gogo Jim and XY
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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
January 12 2015 16:44 GMT
#3
whoa arent Toodming and Jim basically the 2 strongest China players right now?

and they have to face each other to get in, 1 is in and the other is eliminated from WCS?

going to be good match!
kc2siq
Profile Joined April 2012
United States319 Posts
January 12 2015 16:45 GMT
#4
TooDming, and MacSed fighting!

in other words, go the good looking people!
Byun, best player in the world!
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 12 2015 17:01 GMT
#5
On January 13 2015 01:44 mikumegurine wrote:
whoa arent Toodming and Jim basically the 2 strongest China players right now?

and they have to face each other to get in, 1 is in and the other is eliminated from WCS?

going to be good match!

I'd say Top is a bit better than TooDMinG right now.

Here's China's ranking according to Aligulac : http://aligulac.com/periods/128/?nats=CN&page=1
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 13 2015 11:47 GMT
#6
Iasonu and XY get banned from WCS 2014 for win-trading with each other, then get matched with each other to guarantee one of them a spot on Premier to start WCS 2015. Funny how life works out, I suppose.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17664 Posts
January 14 2015 01:34 GMT
#7
WCS Predictor 2015

cn XY vs cn iAsonu in
in WCS Challenger Season 1 round of 64.
cn XY is at 0.63% Blizzcon Chances.
49.98% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 1.16%.
50.02% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.1%.
cn iAsonu is at 0.45% Blizzcon Chances.
50.02% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.82%.
49.98% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.07%.

cn TooDming vs cn Jim in
in WCS Challenger Season 1 round of 64.
cn TooDming is at 0.23% Blizzcon Chances.
36.59% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.54%.
63.41% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.05%.
cn Jim is at 4.76% Blizzcon Chances.
63.41% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 6.94%.
36.59% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.97%.

cn Clavie vs cn XiGua in
in WCS Challenger Season 1 round of 64.
cn Clavie is at 0.01% Blizzcon Chances.
21.71% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.01%.
78.29% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0%.
cn XiGua is at 0.99% Blizzcon Chances.
78.29% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 1.24%.
21.71% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.12%.

cn MacSed vs cn Top in
in WCS Challenger Season 1 round of 64.
cn MacSed is at 0.32% Blizzcon Chances.
39.51% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.74%.
60.49% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.05%.
cn Top is at 2.46% Blizzcon Chances.
60.49% of the time they win this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 3.8%.
39.51% of the time they lose this match and their Blizzcon Chances go to 0.4%.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 14 2015 06:14 GMT
#8
Hoping for XY, Jim, Xigua, and Top
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
January 14 2015 08:43 GMT
#9
Always rooting for TooDming and XiGua.. I'll try to catch some of this during Code S tonight!
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17664 Posts
January 14 2015 11:11 GMT
#10
games are on! http://www.twitch.tv/esportshtv/popout
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
January 14 2015 11:19 GMT
#11
yes jim!
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 14 2015 11:26 GMT
#12
I've never seen an early pool wind up that effective. WP Toodming to tie the series up.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 14 2015 11:37 GMT
#13
I think when you cheese someone in the early part of a series, you shouldn't be surprised when you see Cannons at your natural the next game. (Jim leads 2-1)
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 14 2015 11:50 GMT
#14
Oh wow, Toodming-Jim is gonna go to the ace match.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
January 14 2015 11:54 GMT
#15
2-2! Good job!
I love SC2
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
January 14 2015 12:00 GMT
#16
Noooo the stream
Year of MaxPax
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 14 2015 12:06 GMT
#17
Jim finished the job. If the English stream is forced out again, the Chinese coverage is here: http://live.neotv.com.cn/wcs
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 14 2015 12:16 GMT
#18
That was not how you evecute a proxy Rax. 1-0 to iAsonu in the second series.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
January 14 2015 12:17 GMT
#19
Chinese Terran ......
I love SC2
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 14 2015 12:40 GMT
#20
Some excellent use of Thors drives XY forward to take the second game.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
January 14 2015 12:45 GMT
#21
On January 14 2015 21:06 Circumstance wrote:
Jim finished the job. If the English stream is forced out again, the Chinese coverage is here: http://live.neotv.com.cn/wcs

Actually the stream is from:
http://www.douyutv.com/WCS

If there is any lag, add "?cdn=lx". That is:
http://www.douyutv.com/WCS?cdn=lx
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
January 14 2015 12:58 GMT
#22
Due to the power cut of iG‘s base, the game of iA against XY will delay.
(there are four people in iG‘s base: Jim, XY, MacSed and Cloudy. XiGua is in the home of Chengdu. iA is in his university.)
the game of XiGua against Clavie will start first.
I love SC2
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 13:00:32
January 14 2015 12:59 GMT
#23
I missed what exactly happened, but we're apparently changing serieses to Xigua and Clavie.

EDIT: Thank you, Thickertom. I saw you helping out a lot in the NeoTV chat, too. Thanks for contributing to the scene.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2557 Posts
January 14 2015 13:00 GMT
#24
Did XiGua play WC3 back then?
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 13:05:42
January 14 2015 13:04 GMT
#25
is this real ratio or are they stretching the "original" 4-3 to 16-9 resolution?
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Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
January 14 2015 13:14 GMT
#26
On January 14 2015 22:04 Dingodile wrote:
is this real ratio or are they stretching the "original" 4-3 to 16-9 resolution?
It's 16:10 most likely. If you are using VLC, you can change it by pressing "A".
juleharen
Profile Joined November 2014
Norway298 Posts
January 14 2015 13:19 GMT
#27
wasn't this supposed to be played on the old map pool? I thought Rifkin said that the challenger league was to be played on the old map pool, while the premier league would be played on the new map pool...
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
January 14 2015 13:25 GMT
#28
Nice to see the new maps. I'm curious as to how pro players play on them.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
January 14 2015 13:37 GMT
#29
XiGua 3-0, happy birthday!
I love SC2
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 14 2015 13:40 GMT
#30
Xigua completely outclassed Clavie. A dominant performance to get into Premier.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 14 2015 13:45 GMT
#31
XY's control seems to have drastically improved since I saw him back in WCS 2013
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
January 14 2015 13:49 GMT
#32
XYs splits really strong. He could do well against the Europeens in WCS
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
January 14 2015 13:49 GMT
#33
That was a fun game. New maps looking good.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 14 2015 13:56 GMT
#34
The off-language stream for the obscure-region qualifier, casted by relative unknowns at a time very inconvenient for a large portion of the English-speaking audience, broke 2,000 viewers at one point and it still hovering near it now. That's a healthy scene, yo.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Supersamu
Profile Joined November 2014
Germany296 Posts
January 14 2015 13:59 GMT
#35
On January 14 2015 22:19 juleharen wrote:
wasn't this supposed to be played on the old map pool? I thought Rifkin said that the challenger league was to be played on the old map pool, while the premier league would be played on the new map pool...


I am also a bit confused about this.
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 14:02:15
January 14 2015 14:01 GMT
#36
Wait the supplies were quite close, how did xigua just bane bust XY off creep like that?

Edit: Game 3 ending
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 14 2015 14:03 GMT
#37
On January 14 2015 22:59 Supersamu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 22:19 juleharen wrote:
wasn't this supposed to be played on the old map pool? I thought Rifkin said that the challenger league was to be played on the old map pool, while the premier league would be played on the new map pool...


I am also a bit confused about this.

There's been conflicting information about a lot of things. Hell, this might even fall under the category of regional variation (one region does one thing, another region can choose to do another). But I'd be surprise if THAT was the case.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 14 2015 14:04 GMT
#38
On January 14 2015 23:01 EngrishTeacher wrote:
Wait the supplies were quite close, how did xigua just bane bust XY off creep like that?

Edit: Game 3 ending

iAsonu, not Xigua. Xigua already qualified. And the previous engagements were done without Baneling Speed, so maybe that finishing caught XY off-guard.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 14:09:25
January 14 2015 14:05 GMT
#39
On January 14 2015 22:59 Supersamu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 22:19 juleharen wrote:
wasn't this supposed to be played on the old map pool? I thought Rifkin said that the challenger league was to be played on the old map pool, while the premier league would be played on the new map pool...


I am also a bit confused about this.


I think he meant that the qualifiers would be played out with the old maps but challanger and premier with the new ones and he just said it wrong unintantionally

Edit: it would make way mor sense to make ALL challanger league games on the new map pool, because it is already out, which wasn't the case with the qualifiers
I am a slave of Golden from now on. Obey a supreme leader of StarCraft 2 or you get banned. I am really glad to be citizen of Democratic republic of Golden.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
January 14 2015 14:08 GMT
#40
if MacSed wins, iG got all 4 spots, not bad.
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Supersamu
Profile Joined November 2014
Germany296 Posts
January 14 2015 14:15 GMT
#41
On January 14 2015 23:05 Corvuuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 22:59 Supersamu wrote:
On January 14 2015 22:19 juleharen wrote:
wasn't this supposed to be played on the old map pool? I thought Rifkin said that the challenger league was to be played on the old map pool, while the premier league would be played on the new map pool...


I am also a bit confused about this.


I think he meant that the qualifiers would be played out with the old maps but challanger and premier with the new ones and he just said it wrong unintantionally

Edit: it would make way mor sense to make ALL challanger league games on the new map pool, because it is already out, which wasn't the case with the qualifiers


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_WCS_Season_1 shows that Qualifiers and Challenger Maps are the 2014 S3 maps.
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
January 14 2015 14:17 GMT
#42
iA's pretty dead
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 14 2015 14:18 GMT
#43
On January 14 2015 23:15 Supersamu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 23:05 Corvuuss wrote:
On January 14 2015 22:59 Supersamu wrote:
On January 14 2015 22:19 juleharen wrote:
wasn't this supposed to be played on the old map pool? I thought Rifkin said that the challenger league was to be played on the old map pool, while the premier league would be played on the new map pool...


I am also a bit confused about this.


I think he meant that the qualifiers would be played out with the old maps but challanger and premier with the new ones and he just said it wrong unintantionally

Edit: it would make way mor sense to make ALL challanger league games on the new map pool, because it is already out, which wasn't the case with the qualifiers


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_WCS_Season_1 shows that Qualifiers and Challenger Maps are the 2014 S3 maps.

We don't exactly have a Blizzard source for the info. Everything is hearsay.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
January 14 2015 14:22 GMT
#44
the ace match..... if terran is NucleaR, he must win......
I love SC2
Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
January 14 2015 14:25 GMT
#45
On January 14 2015 23:15 Supersamu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 23:05 Corvuuss wrote:
On January 14 2015 22:59 Supersamu wrote:
On January 14 2015 22:19 juleharen wrote:
wasn't this supposed to be played on the old map pool? I thought Rifkin said that the challenger league was to be played on the old map pool, while the premier league would be played on the new map pool...


I am also a bit confused about this.


I think he meant that the qualifiers would be played out with the old maps but challanger and premier with the new ones and he just said it wrong unintantionally

Edit: it would make way mor sense to make ALL challanger league games on the new map pool, because it is already out, which wasn't the case with the qualifiers


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_WCS_Season_1 shows that Qualifiers and Challenger Maps are the 2014 S3 maps.



Mostly I just said that it would make more sense to use the new maps, but as you point out liquipedia, you must know that it is made by people whos sometimes don't have all the sources and it most definitly is.not a site without false information
I am a slave of Golden from now on. Obey a supreme leader of StarCraft 2 or you get banned. I am really glad to be citizen of Democratic republic of Golden.
kc2siq
Profile Joined April 2012
United States319 Posts
January 14 2015 14:29 GMT
#46
Are there lag spikes on the stream?

Can't tell if I need to reset my internet connection or not.
Byun, best player in the world!
bartus88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands491 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 14:32:07
January 14 2015 14:31 GMT
#47
People complain about turtle mech a lot, but this game is pretty awesome. Especially considering this is the ace match.

On January 14 2015 23:29 kc2siq wrote:
Are there lag spikes on the stream?

Can't tell if I need to reset my internet connection or not.

Yeah they are on stream. Hopefully the players aren't as badly affected as the stream is.
Random master race
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 14 2015 14:31 GMT
#48
This last game is an absolute slugfest, I love it.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6328 Posts
January 14 2015 14:32 GMT
#49
I think messioso's statement about the maps only applies to ESL's qualifiers so the other regions can pick their own map pool.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
January 14 2015 14:35 GMT
#50
That was a GAME!
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 14 2015 14:35 GMT
#51
WOW, iAsonu is going to WCS Premier!
The world is better when every background has a chance.
bartus88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands491 Posts
January 14 2015 14:37 GMT
#52
Wow that was a sick game, I thought at several points that the Zerg was probably dead, or at least way behind.
Random master race
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
January 14 2015 14:37 GMT
#53
XY is not NucleaR. iAsonu got the Premier for the first time.
I love SC2
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 14 2015 14:38 GMT
#54
And now, we come to Top, the most absurd Protoss you'll see all week. (When he played MacSed earlier this month in the GPL, the deciding map went into a base trade before either player had secured a natural.)
The world is better when every background has a chance.
juleharen
Profile Joined November 2014
Norway298 Posts
January 14 2015 14:45 GMT
#55
On January 14 2015 22:56 Circumstance wrote:
The off-language stream for the obscure-region qualifier, casted by relative unknowns at a time very inconvenient for a large portion of the English-speaking audience, broke 2,000 viewers at one point and it still hovering near it now. That's a healthy scene, yo.


It's pretty good. We shouldn't forget that there's ~65k viewers on the chinese stream too.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 14 2015 14:50 GMT
#56
On January 14 2015 23:45 juleharen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 22:56 Circumstance wrote:
The off-language stream for the obscure-region qualifier, casted by relative unknowns at a time very inconvenient for a large portion of the English-speaking audience, broke 2,000 viewers at one point and it still hovering near it now. That's a healthy scene, yo.


It's pretty good. We shouldn't forget that there's ~65k viewers on the chinese stream too.

Oh, certainly not. I wasn't aware of the numbers, but that is tremendous.

How Top got that Oracle out alive, I may never know.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
January 14 2015 14:50 GMT
#57
On January 14 2015 23:38 Circumstance wrote:
And now, we come to Top, the most absurd Protoss you'll see all week. (When he played MacSed earlier this month in the GPL, the deciding map went into a base trade before either player had secured a natural.)

Top is actually a Hero of the Storm progamer now.
juleharen
Profile Joined November 2014
Norway298 Posts
January 14 2015 14:52 GMT
#58
On January 14 2015 23:50 freeamount wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 23:38 Circumstance wrote:
And now, we come to Top, the most absurd Protoss you'll see all week. (When he played MacSed earlier this month in the GPL, the deciding map went into a base trade before either player had secured a natural.)

Top is actually a Hero of the Storm progamer now.


He'll just proxy for the win.
freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 15:29:10
January 14 2015 15:07 GMT
#59
Top forgot to research his Zealot Charge, otherwise he could have won the last battle on game 2.
He also had the economic advantage after his storm drop on MacSed's base.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6328 Posts
January 14 2015 15:26 GMT
#60
gg, iG wins.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 14 2015 15:27 GMT
#61
That ought to do it. Invictus sweeps the Chinese spots in Premier - Jim, MacSed, Xigua, and iAsonu are going to the WCS Main Event.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
January 14 2015 15:27 GMT
#62
iG dominates
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January 14 2015 23:56 GMT
#63
I got half of what I wanted in my original post but I can't be disappointed with either iAsonu or MacSed making it. Good pool of players from China
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