★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (11)
69%
★★★- Good game (2)
13%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
13%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
6%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MarineKing vs Stats?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
56%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (5)
31%
★★★- Good game (2)
13%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend DeParture vs TY?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (12)
86%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
7%
★★★- Good game (1)
7%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Panic vs Zest?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losira vs Flash?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
7%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Ace?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
OK guys dumb question. Who am I supposed to vote for in the MVP polls?? The player I think will be the MVP or the player that, if he wins, wwould be the MVP?
On December 28 2014 01:16 Silvana wrote: OK guys dumb question. Who am I supposed to vote for in the MVP polls?? The player I think will be the MVP or the player that, if he wins, wwould be the MVP?
The player you think is most crucial to the team's success in this match, I guess?
If MK plays macro he can win, if he uses some stupid cheese because he's still upset about his last SSL and SPL matches he'll get crushed. Either way I predict the rest of MVP loses, though Flash-Losira might actually be close.
On December 28 2014 01:16 Silvana wrote: OK guys dumb question. Who am I supposed to vote for in the MVP polls?? The player I think will be the MVP or the player that, if he wins, wwould be the MVP?
The player you think is most crucial to the team's success in this match, I guess?
Stats should be the MVP then! But I guess polls with Flash as an option are useless
On December 28 2014 01:16 Silvana wrote: OK guys dumb question. Who am I supposed to vote for in the MVP polls?? The player I think will be the MVP or the player that, if he wins, wwould be the MVP?
The player you think is most crucial to the team's success in this match, I guess?
Stats should be the MVP then! But I guess polls with Flash as an option are useless
Huh, I guess even though Yonghwa didn't get to play Choya still has him sit out since he was on the roster last week? Hopefully Marineking, Panic, and Losira can win then.
On December 29 2014 21:36 showstealer1829 wrote: I like how Valdes saying Bring Wolf Juices caused my twitch to crash. It's like "Too much innuendo. I'm out"
I could totally see Wolf's face on a can of juice.
Can't comment, because I'm in a public place, but have you seen the ones, Iron Squid uses? They go in the same direction as Immediate Music usually does. I think Mvp's theme there was pretty good.
Can't comment, because I'm in a public place, but have you seen the ones, Iron Squid uses? They go in the same direction as Immediate Music usually does. I think Mvp's theme there was pretty good.
3:00 Reaper expand from MarineKing. Stats also expands. Stats sending a probe to the bottom left.
4:00 Two more barracks from MarineKing. Twilight council from Stats. Stats getting a stalker.
5:00 Marines from MarineKing. MarineKing finds the hidden probe and kills it with his reaper.
6:00 Robotics facility for Stats. Reaper pokes his head into the natural, is greeted by MSC and stalker. Blink for Stats. Engineering bay for MarineKing. Combat shields and stim on the way.
7:00 MarineKing 60 vs Stats 55 Two more gateways for Stats. Stats has five stalkers. Factory on the way for MarineKing. MarineKing forces a photon overcharge and backs off. Stats blinks onto MarineKing's army and loses a bunch of stalkers.
9:00 MarineKing 69 vs Stats 63 MarineKing chases stats into his natural and kills a bunch of stalkers and the MSC. Colossus production beginning. Four probes also died. Third base starting for both players. MarineKing moving out again.
10:00 MarineKing 86 vs Stats 76 MarineKing pressures the third but is forced to back off. Two medivacs finish for MarineKing. Second starport is added for MarineKing. Stats getting another gateway. MarineKing lifting his third CC to the third base.
Can't comment, because I'm in a public place, but have you seen the ones, Iron Squid uses? They go in the same direction as Immediate Music usually does. I think Mvp's theme there was pretty good.
3:00 Reaper expand from MarineKing. Stats also expands. Stats sending a probe to the bottom left.
4:00 Two more barracks from MarineKing. Twilight council from Stats. Stats getting a stalker.
5:00 Marines from MarineKing. MarineKing finds the hidden probe and kills it with his reaper.
6:00 Robotics facility for Stats. Reaper pokes his head into the natural, is greeted by MSC and stalker. Blink for Stats. Engineering bay for MarineKing. Combat shields and stim on the way.
7:00 MarineKing 60 vs Stats 55 Two more gateways for Stats. Stats has five stalkers. Factory on the way for MarineKing. MarineKing forces a photon overcharge and backs off. Stats blinks onto MarineKing's army and loses a bunch of stalkers.
9:00 MarineKing 69 vs Stats 63 MarineKing chases stats into his natural and kills a bunch of stalkers and the MSC. Colossus production beginning. Four probes also died. Third base starting for both players. MarineKing moving out again.
10:00 MarineKing 86 vs Stats 76 MarineKing pressures the third but is forced to back off. Two medivacs finish for MarineKing. Second starport is added for MarineKing. Stats getting another gateway. MarineKing lifting his third CC to the third base.
11:00 MarineKing 112 vs Stats 103 MarineKing pressures the third base. Stats forward blinks into the marauders and MarineKing tries to clean up but loses his army. Warp prism and double forge for Stats.
12:00 MarineKing 114 vs Stats 105 MarineKing regrouping at the watchtower. Both players are on three bases. Two more gateways for Stats. MarineKing getting vikings. Warp prism on the way to MarineKing's base with 3 zealots. Warp prism runs into a turret but survives. MarineKing pulling SCVs.
14:00 MarineKing 173 vs Stats 138 ...Lots of SCVs. MarineKing has 10 vikings against 4 colossi. Stats kills his own stalker. A fifth colossus finishes. MarineKing clears out the third base. SCVs are trapped in Stats' natural,. Manner MULEs are landed. Almost all of MarineKing's SCVs fall. Vikings are landed and MarineKing finishes crushing though. Stats GG's! MVP takes a 1-0 lead!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (11)
69%
★★★- Good game (2)
13%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
13%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
6%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend MarineKing vs Stats?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On December 29 2014 21:56 KelsierSC wrote: terran players will soon realise that scv's are the best units they have and just go 6 CC ,max out on SCV and push
I looked for the entire intro, but I couldn't find the Funday Monday where Cella attacked with 200/200 SCVs
DeParture spawns in the top right TY spawns in the bottom
2:00 Proleague loves FPV. TY went with some build that starts with barracks/gas and a marine.
3:00 DeParture has a second hatchery. DeParture's overlord is in the middle of the natural of TY and it nearly dies to two marines.
4:00 Factory for TY, who expanded. Zerglings are looking around for DeParture. DeParture finds an SCV but it gets away. Armory for TY.
5:00 Lair for Departure. TY pulling SCVs with his first two hellions. DeParture thinks "I should get a spine crawler" and gets one. Hellbats get into the natural before the spine and zergling speed finish. TY loses two SCVs but no units and crushes the natural. DeParture trying to go after reinforcements.
On December 29 2014 22:06 SatedSC2 wrote: So how do you defend against this without gimping yourself vs. standard play given that Marines stop you scouting..?
On December 29 2014 22:06 SatedSC2 wrote: So how do you defend against this without gimping yourself vs. standard play given that Marines stop you scouting..?
DeParture spawns in the top right TY spawns in the bottom
2:00 Proleague loves FPV. TY went with some build that starts with barracks/gas and a marine.
3:00 DeParture has a second hatchery. DeParture's overlord is in the middle of the natural of TY and it nearly dies to two marines.
4:00 Factory for TY, who expanded. Zerglings are looking around for DeParture. DeParture finds an SCV but it gets away. Armory for TY.
5:00 Lair for Departure. TY pulling SCVs with his first two hellions. DeParture thinks "I should get a spine crawler" and gets one. Hellbats get into the natural before the spine and zergling speed finish. TY loses two SCVs but no units and crushes the natural. DeParture trying to go after reinforcements.
8:00 DeParture 33 vs TY 51 DeParture kills 4 SCVs in TY's main. Hellbats are still uncontested. Listen, this game is over.
9:00 DeParture 16 vs TY 47 Manner mules are landed. Drones are pulled. DeParture GG's! KT ties the series up 1-1!
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
56%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (5)
31%
★★★- Good game (2)
13%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend DeParture vs TY?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
calling it a bit agressive might be an understatement Wolf NIce build, but a bit too cheesy for me (if can be considered cheese). But I hope these builds come up more, hopefully in TvP since I don't have many good TvP openers that do damage at the beginning (thx photon overcharge ^^). And as a protoss player (i play random) I'd like to be the protoss opening less boring
On December 29 2014 22:09 Rollora wrote: calling it a bit agressive might be an understatement Wolf NIce build, but a bit too cheesy for me (if can be considered cheese). But I hope these builds come up more, hopefully in TvP since I don't have many good TvP openers that do damage at the beginning (thx photon overcharge ^^). And as a protoss player (i play random) I'd like to be the protoss opening less boring
On December 29 2014 22:09 Rollora wrote: calling it a bit agressive might be an understatement Wolf NIce build, but a bit too cheesy for me (if can be considered cheese). But I hope these builds come up more, hopefully in TvP since I don't have many good TvP openers that do damage at the beginning (thx photon overcharge ^^). And as a protoss player (i play random) I'd like to be the protoss opening less boring
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
you talking about Action?
guess he's pissed that Ryu Won ain't fielding him.
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
He is irrelevant until we are in playoffs. But then cover your eyes and hide the children
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
Maffia zerg aka Action
Action wasn't the Mafia Zerg. Hitman was the Mafia Zerg, because...well, Hitman.
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
Didn't look but probably Action. Dude's a midget.
Be careful, Miso is also on the team. Afaik, he isn't a giant either.
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
He is irrelevant until we are in playoffs. But then cover your eyes and hide the children
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
He is irrelevant until we are in playoffs. But then cover your eyes and hide the children
RIP hitmaN.
Zerg playoff trio was always so good, now Action gotta carry that torch
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
Maffia zerg aka Action
Action wasn't the Mafia Zerg. Hitman was the Mafia Zerg, because...well, Hitman.
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
Maffia zerg aka Action
Action wasn't the Mafia Zerg. Hitman was the Mafia Zerg, because...well, Hitman.
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
Maffia zerg aka Action
Action wasn't the Mafia Zerg. Hitman was the Mafia Zerg, because...well, Hitman.
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
Maffia zerg aka Action
Action wasn't the Mafia Zerg. Hitman was the Mafia Zerg, because...well, Hitman.
Panic spawns in the bottom right Zest spawns in the left
2:00 Both players getting a gateway/double gas. Cybernetics core for both players.
3:00 Stargate for Zest. Panic getting a sentry.
4:00 Panic expands. Zest denies a scout from Panic. Robotics facility for Panic.
5:00 2 gateways and an oracle for Zest. Oracle gets into an undefended main base. Panic getting two gateways and an immortal.
7:00 Panic 41 vs Zest 45 Panic saves the nexus with a photon overcharge. Zest has two oracles now. Zest warping in zealots. Zest goes for the natural and kills sentries and immortals with his oracle. Panic can not hold his natural and loses all of his units. Panic GG's! Zest takes a 2-1 lead for KT!
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
Maffia zerg aka Action
Action wasn't the Mafia Zerg. Hitman was the Mafia Zerg, because...well, Hitman.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (12)
86%
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
7%
★★★- Good game (1)
7%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Panic vs Zest?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
Maffia zerg aka Action
Action wasn't the Mafia Zerg. Hitman was the Mafia Zerg, because...well, Hitman.
Really? I'm pretty sure Mafia Zerg was Action
He was. Circumstance making shit up.
Circumstance not remembering because KT Zergs never do anything
On December 29 2014 22:21 Lorning wrote: Good job Choya, letting Panic and DeParture play over HerO, Seed, TaeJa and YongHwa was just amazing starsense
can't say that HerO and Seed have too many arguments going for them
On December 29 2014 22:20 TT1 wrote: omfg marineking beat stats.. hooooooooow
Stats foward blinked his stalkers into bio+stim and later attacked his own stalkers with his collossi. Marineking being a better player than Stats also helped.
On December 29 2014 22:21 Lorning wrote: Good job Choya, letting Panic and DeParture play over HerO, Seed, TaeJa and YongHwa was just amazing starsense
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
Maffia zerg aka Action
Action wasn't the Mafia Zerg. Hitman was the Mafia Zerg, because...well, Hitman.
Really? I'm pretty sure Mafia Zerg was Action
He was. Circumstance making shit up.
Circumstance not remembering because KT Zergs never do anything
Not KT zergs fault that there are so few playoff games and then KT recks everyone so fast
On December 29 2014 22:21 Lorning wrote: Good job Choya, letting Panic and DeParture play over HerO, Seed, TaeJa and YongHwa was just amazing starsense
On December 29 2014 22:21 Lorning wrote: Good job Choya, letting Panic and DeParture play over HerO, Seed, TaeJa and YongHwa was just amazing starsense
can't say that HerO and Seed have too many arguments going for them
Panic never played in PL and was never ever relevant, and DeParture was 0 - 7. HerO and Seed are always the better choice
On December 29 2014 22:21 Lorning wrote: Good job Choya, letting Panic and DeParture play over HerO, Seed, TaeJa and YongHwa was just amazing starsense
can't say that HerO and Seed have too many arguments going for them
Panic never played in PL and was never ever relevant, and DeParture was 0 - 7. HerO and Seed are always the better choice
On December 29 2014 22:21 Lorning wrote: Good job Choya, letting Panic and DeParture play over HerO, Seed, TaeJa and YongHwa was just amazing starsense
There's a reason Taeja and Seed are in the One True Anti.
I'm pretty sure Panic was supposed to snipe either of the terrans on Catallena, but instead Ryu Won sent the worst PvT player on the worst PvT map in PL.
On December 29 2014 22:21 Lorning wrote: Good job Choya, letting Panic and DeParture play over HerO, Seed, TaeJa and YongHwa was just amazing starsense
can't say that HerO and Seed have too many arguments going for them
Panic never played in PL and was never ever relevant, and DeParture was 0 - 7. HerO and Seed are always the better choice
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
Maffia zerg aka Action
Action wasn't the Mafia Zerg. Hitman was the Mafia Zerg, because...well, Hitman.
Really? I'm pretty sure Mafia Zerg was Action
He was. Circumstance making shit up.
Circumstance not remembering because KT Zergs never do anything
Not KT zergs fault that there are so few playoff games and then KT recks everyone so fast
On December 29 2014 22:24 Ej_ wrote: I'm pretty sure Panic was supposed to snipe either of the terrans on Catallena, but instead Ryu Won sent the worst PvT player on the worst PvT map in PL.
On December 29 2014 22:21 Lorning wrote: Good job Choya, letting Panic and DeParture play over HerO, Seed, TaeJa and YongHwa was just amazing starsense
can't say that HerO and Seed have too many arguments going for them
Seed qualified for Code S (over Life). That is at least more than Departure did.
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
Maffia zerg aka Action
Action wasn't the Mafia Zerg. Hitman was the Mafia Zerg, because...well, Hitman.
Really? I'm pretty sure Mafia Zerg was Action
He was. Circumstance making shit up.
Circumstance not remembering because KT Zergs never do anything
Not KT zergs fault that there are so few playoff games and then KT recks everyone so fast
What about Billowy?
Well... that series never happened. So i dont know what you are talking about :p
On December 29 2014 22:21 Lorning wrote: Good job Choya, letting Panic and DeParture play over HerO, Seed, TaeJa and YongHwa was just amazing starsense
can't say that HerO and Seed have too many arguments going for them
Panic never played in PL and was never ever relevant, and DeParture was 0 - 7. HerO and Seed are always the better choice
i dunno man sometimes it's better to give new players some experience than putting these two on the field
On December 29 2014 22:21 Lorning wrote: Good job Choya, letting Panic and DeParture play over HerO, Seed, TaeJa and YongHwa was just amazing starsense
can't say that HerO and Seed have too many arguments going for them
Panic never played in PL and was never ever relevant, and DeParture was 0 - 7. HerO and Seed are always the better choice
i dunno man sometimes it's better to give new players some experience than putting these two on the field
well HerO was detrimental for EG-TL's success in PL
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
Maffia zerg aka Action
Action wasn't the Mafia Zerg. Hitman was the Mafia Zerg, because...well, Hitman.
Really? I'm pretty sure Mafia Zerg was Action
He was. Circumstance making shit up.
Circumstance not remembering because KT Zergs never do anything
Not KT zergs fault that there are so few playoff games and then KT recks everyone so fast
What about Billowy?
Well... that series never happened. So i dont know what you are talking about :p
On December 29 2014 22:26 SatedSC2 wrote: I love the blind faith people seem to have in Flash. It makes his inevitable tournament failures much more satisfying xD
People like players who aren't always the best. You don't change just because they're not doing well
On December 29 2014 22:26 SatedSC2 wrote: I love the blind faith people seem to have in Flash. It makes his inevitable tournament failures much more satisfying xD
On December 29 2014 22:26 SatedSC2 wrote: I love the blind faith people seem to have in Flash. It makes his inevitable tournament failures much more satisfying xD
all possible tournaments for Flash are already over for him...
Now we will listen to 3-4 months of Flash god hype till the next qualifiers :/
On December 29 2014 22:14 KingofdaHipHop wrote: who's the short guy in the middle of the KT pic he looks like he saw something and is absolutely disgusted with it.
Maffia zerg aka Action
Action wasn't the Mafia Zerg. Hitman was the Mafia Zerg, because...well, Hitman.
Really? I'm pretty sure Mafia Zerg was Action
He was. Circumstance making shit up.
Circumstance not remembering because KT Zergs never do anything
Not KT zergs fault that there are so few playoff games and then KT recks everyone so fast
What about Billowy?
Well... that series never happened. So i dont know what you are talking about :p
On December 29 2014 22:21 Lorning wrote: Good job Choya, letting Panic and DeParture play over HerO, Seed, TaeJa and YongHwa was just amazing starsense
can't say that HerO and Seed have too many arguments going for them
Panic never played in PL and was never ever relevant, and DeParture was 0 - 7. HerO and Seed are always the better choice
i dunno man sometimes it's better to give new players some experience than putting these two on the field
well HerO was detrimental for EG-TL's success in PL
On December 29 2014 22:21 Lorning wrote: Good job Choya, letting Panic and DeParture play over HerO, Seed, TaeJa and YongHwa was just amazing starsense
can't say that HerO and Seed have too many arguments going for them
Panic never played in PL and was never ever relevant, and DeParture was 0 - 7. HerO and Seed are always the better choice
Thats the problem when you scrap together a bunch of mercs from different teams. Play time is assigned equally, some players might not be able to play at times, some are not in form at their turn etc etc. It's a MK + rotational team which is destined to suck
On December 29 2014 22:31 Circumstance wrote: Flash's music is apparently a lot like him - gets people ridiculously hyped despite not being anything special at all.
On December 29 2014 22:31 Circumstance wrote: Flash's music is apparently a lot like him - gets people ridiculously hyped despite not being anything special at all.
On December 29 2014 22:26 SatedSC2 wrote: I love the blind faith people seem to have in Flash. It makes his inevitable tournament failures much more satisfying xD
It isn't blind faith at all
I'm sure he'll prove me wrong in GSL or SSL.
Flash's 2014 stats don't lie, people only remember his losses though
On December 29 2014 22:32 sAsImre wrote: Flash haters might be the best thing about him in sc2 :D
Nah.
The best thing about him in SC2 is how stupid he made the Elephant in the Room look.
You must really hate Flash or his fans for some reason. Because no matter what, if Flash fans praise him or not, you will just do your best to shit on both. Thanks for being useless and negative
On December 29 2014 22:32 sAsImre wrote: Flash haters might be the best thing about him in sc2 :D
Nah.
The best thing about him in SC2 is how stupid he made the Elephant in the Room look.
You must really hate Flash or his fans for some reason. Because no matter what, if Flash fans praise him or not, you will just do your best to shit on both. Thanks for being useless and negative
I have to agree with you. I feel like the Flash haters are way more annoying these days
Losira spawns in the bottom right Flash spawns in the top left
2:00 Flash going barracks without a gas. Losira opening hatchery first. Marine for Flash. Flash expands.
3:00 Third CC for Flash. Flash getting two refineries. Flash tries to find an overlord but there is none.
4:00 Flash gets a factory. Overlord speed for Losira.
5:00 Losira getting zergling speed. Overlords are scouting everything for Losira. Flash has only four marines. Losira taking his third base.
6:00 Speed overlords are still looking everywhere. Two hellions moving out for Flash. Flash getting infernal pre-igniters off two factories, Losira sees it but loses the overlord. Roach warren for Losira.
8:00 Losira 65 vs Flash 67 +1/1 for Losira. Flash getting stim pack and two engineering bays! Flash getting a tank. Hellions try to run into the natural but instead find 13 workers at the third base.
9:00 Losira 85 vs Flash 83 Flash adding four more barracks. Losira sees this too because speed overlords. Two tanks for Flash. Losira getting a spire and a baneling nest. Flash getting another CC. +1/1 half done for Flash.
10:00 Losira 107 vs Flash 106 Burrow for Losira. Losira getting roach speed.
On December 29 2014 22:32 sAsImre wrote: Flash haters might be the best thing about him in sc2 :D
Nah.
The best thing about him in SC2 is how stupid he made the Elephant in the Room look.
You must really hate Flash or his fans for some reason. Because no matter what, if Flash fans praise him or not, you will just do your best to shit on both. Thanks for being useless and negative
I have to agree with you. I feel like the Flash haters are way more annoying these days
On December 29 2014 22:32 sAsImre wrote: Flash haters might be the best thing about him in sc2 :D
Nah.
The best thing about him in SC2 is how stupid he made the Elephant in the Room look.
You must really hate Flash or his fans for some reason. Because no matter what, if Flash fans praise him or not, you will just do your best to shit on both. Thanks for being useless and negative
On December 29 2014 22:32 sAsImre wrote: Flash haters might be the best thing about him in sc2 :D
Nah.
The best thing about him in SC2 is how stupid he made the Elephant in the Room look.
You must really hate Flash or his fans for some reason. Because no matter what, if Flash fans praise him or not, you will just do your best to shit on both. Thanks for being useless and negative
I have to agree with you. I feel like the Flash haters are way more annoying these days
It's because he's not doing well, so they're harder to shoot down. Just like how Flash fans were insufferable during that week where he was good.
Losira spawns in the bottom right Flash spawns in the top left
2:00 Flash going barracks without a gas. Losira opening hatchery first. Marine for Flash. Flash expands.
3:00 Third CC for Flash. Flash getting two refineries. Flash tries to find an overlord but there is none.
4:00 Flash gets a factory. Overlord speed for Losira.
5:00 Losira getting zergling speed. Overlords are scouting everything for Losira. Flash has only four marines. Losira taking his third base.
6:00 Speed overlords are still looking everywhere. Two hellions moving out for Flash. Flash getting infernal pre-igniters off two factories, Losira sees it but loses the overlord. Roach warren for Losira.
8:00 Losira 65 vs Flash 67 +1/1 for Losira. Flash getting stim pack and two engineering bays! Flash getting a tank. Hellions try to run into the natural but instead find 13 workers at the third base.
9:00 Losira 85 vs Flash 83 Flash adding four more barracks. Losira sees this too because speed overlords. Two tanks for Flash. Losira getting a spire and a baneling nest. Flash getting another CC. +1/1 half done for Flash.
10:00 Losira 107 vs Flash 106 Burrow for Losira. Losira getting roach speed.
12:00 Losira 124 vs Flash 106 Flash getting turrets in his main base. Flash scans the natural of Losira. Flash trying to take a fourth base. Flash getting turrets and a sensor tower. Baneling land mines kill about 10 marines.
13:00 Losira 154 vs Flash 147 Flash lands his fourth CC. Flash has two thors. What sort of bio/mech is this? +1 mech attack for Flash as well as +2/2. Losira has his backdoor fourth base.
14:00 Losira 184 vs Flash 165 Flash getting another sensor tower. Flash moving out. Losira has so many banelings. Like 80 of them. Banelings run into the thors and marines and kill lots of things.
On December 29 2014 22:39 sharkie wrote: TheDwf can you explain us the reason for Flash trying to take that early 4th? I remember you saying terrans dont need fast 4ths
Probably for gas since he played 2 fact Thors by midgame + Medivacs and some Marauders
Losira spawns in the bottom right Flash spawns in the top left
2:00 Flash going barracks without a gas. Losira opening hatchery first. Marine for Flash. Flash expands.
3:00 Third CC for Flash. Flash getting two refineries. Flash tries to find an overlord but there is none.
4:00 Flash gets a factory. Overlord speed for Losira.
5:00 Losira getting zergling speed. Overlords are scouting everything for Losira. Flash has only four marines. Losira taking his third base.
6:00 Speed overlords are still looking everywhere. Two hellions moving out for Flash. Flash getting infernal pre-igniters off two factories, Losira sees it but loses the overlord. Roach warren for Losira.
8:00 Losira 65 vs Flash 67 +1/1 for Losira. Flash getting stim pack and two engineering bays! Flash getting a tank. Hellions try to run into the natural but instead find 13 workers at the third base.
9:00 Losira 85 vs Flash 83 Flash adding four more barracks. Losira sees this too because speed overlords. Two tanks for Flash. Losira getting a spire and a baneling nest. Flash getting another CC. +1/1 half done for Flash.
10:00 Losira 107 vs Flash 106 Burrow for Losira. Losira getting roach speed.
12:00 Losira 124 vs Flash 106 Flash getting turrets in his main base. Flash scans the natural of Losira. Flash trying to take a fourth base. Flash getting turrets and a sensor tower. Baneling land mines kill about 10 marines.
13:00 Losira 154 vs Flash 147 Flash lands his fourth CC. Flash has two thors. What sort of bio/mech is this? +1 mech attack for Flash as well as +2/2. Losira has his backdoor fourth base.
14:00 Losira 184 vs Flash 165 Flash getting another sensor tower. Flash moving out. Losira has so many banelings. Like 80 of them. Banelings run into the thors and marines and kill lots of things.
16:00 Losira 174 vs Flash 173 Losira taking a fifth base. Flash starting +3/3. Flash going for a marauder drop.
17:00 Losira 190 vs Flash 196 Losira has corrupters out. Flash dropping the fifth of Losira. +2 mech weapons for Flash.
18:00 Losira 196 vs Flash 200 Losira sacrifices a bunch of units in Flash's third while getting mutalisks. Ultralisk cavern for Losira. Losira getting 10 more corrupters. Flash is supply blocked.
19:00 Losira 200 vs Flash 200 FLash drops Losira's 5th and kills it while going for his fourth base. Brood lords are revealed. Losira surrounds all of Flash's units with mass zergling. Corrupters go after the medivacs. Meanwhile 12 drones die.
20:00 Losira 181 vs Flash Losira going after the fourth base with his brood lords. The PF of Flash falls and 14 SCVs die. Losira losing a lot of workers at home too.
Flash gonna lose this. No more economy. He'd need a miracle engagement and followup to win. He's really not in as good shape as he was say a couple months ago.
On December 29 2014 22:46 yoshi245 wrote: Flash gonna lose this. No mroe economy. He'd need a miracle engagement and followup to win. He's really not in as good shape as he was say a couple months ago.
But he still can lift his orbitals and take bases. Losira struggling too right now.
Losira spawns in the bottom right Flash spawns in the top left
2:00 Flash going barracks without a gas. Losira opening hatchery first. Marine for Flash. Flash expands.
3:00 Third CC for Flash. Flash getting two refineries. Flash tries to find an overlord but there is none.
4:00 Flash gets a factory. Overlord speed for Losira.
5:00 Losira getting zergling speed. Overlords are scouting everything for Losira. Flash has only four marines. Losira taking his third base.
6:00 Speed overlords are still looking everywhere. Two hellions moving out for Flash. Flash getting infernal pre-igniters off two factories, Losira sees it but loses the overlord. Roach warren for Losira.
8:00 Losira 65 vs Flash 67 +1/1 for Losira. Flash getting stim pack and two engineering bays! Flash getting a tank. Hellions try to run into the natural but instead find 13 workers at the third base.
9:00 Losira 85 vs Flash 83 Flash adding four more barracks. Losira sees this too because speed overlords. Two tanks for Flash. Losira getting a spire and a baneling nest. Flash getting another CC. +1/1 half done for Flash.
10:00 Losira 107 vs Flash 106 Burrow for Losira. Losira getting roach speed.
12:00 Losira 124 vs Flash 106 Flash getting turrets in his main base. Flash scans the natural of Losira. Flash trying to take a fourth base. Flash getting turrets and a sensor tower. Baneling land mines kill about 10 marines.
13:00 Losira 154 vs Flash 147 Flash lands his fourth CC. Flash has two thors. What sort of bio/mech is this? +1 mech attack for Flash as well as +2/2. Losira has his backdoor fourth base.
14:00 Losira 184 vs Flash 165 Flash getting another sensor tower. Flash moving out. Losira has so many banelings. Like 80 of them. Banelings run into the thors and marines and kill lots of things.
16:00 Losira 174 vs Flash 173 Losira taking a fifth base. Flash starting +3/3. Flash going for a marauder drop.
17:00 Losira 190 vs Flash 196 Losira has corrupters out. Flash dropping the fifth of Losira. +2 mech weapons for Flash.
18:00 Losira 196 vs Flash 200 Losira sacrifices a bunch of units in Flash's third while getting mutalisks. Ultralisk cavern for Losira. Losira getting 10 more corrupters. Flash is supply blocked.
19:00 Losira 200 vs Flash 200 FLash drops Losira's 5th and kills it while going for his fourth base. Brood lords are revealed. Losira surrounds all of Flash's units with mass zergling. Corrupters go after the medivacs. Meanwhile 12 drones die.
20:00 Losira 181 vs Flash Losira going after the fourth base with his brood lords. The PF of Flash falls and 14 SCVs die. Losira losing a lot of workers at home too.
21:00 Losira 172 vs Flash 171 Flash loads his entire army in medivacs and goes after Losira's fourth, which died earlier. Flash reconsiders and goes straight into the main base where an ultralisk just finished. Losira gets to his main in time but Flash picks up and goes for the third. The hype train of Flash is basically symbolized by these medivacs. A medivac dies to a spore crawler. Flash lands in the fifth base of Losira. Flash runs a bunch of Marines into the fourth but Losira holds that area with brood lords and zerglings.
23:00 Losira 195 vs Flash 164 Flash suddenly has like 10 vikings gainst no anti-air. Ultralisks crash into the third base of Flash and clean up some units. Lots of workers falling. Losira gets on top of barracks with his ultralisks. Flash regroups and kites the ultralisks.
25:00 Losira 116 vs Flash 93 Flash holds. Flash lands 15 vikings in the fourth of Losira but zerglings go after them.
On December 29 2014 22:46 yoshi245 wrote: Flash gonna lose this. No mroe economy. He'd need a miracle engagement and followup to win. He's really not in as good shape as he was say a couple months ago.
But he still can lift his orbitals and take bases. Losira struggling too right now.
FlaSh lost this against the BL switch. Too unprepared.
Losira spawns in the bottom right Flash spawns in the top left
2:00 Flash going barracks without a gas. Losira opening hatchery first. Marine for Flash. Flash expands.
3:00 Third CC for Flash. Flash getting two refineries. Flash tries to find an overlord but there is none.
4:00 Flash gets a factory. Overlord speed for Losira.
5:00 Losira getting zergling speed. Overlords are scouting everything for Losira. Flash has only four marines. Losira taking his third base.
6:00 Speed overlords are still looking everywhere. Two hellions moving out for Flash. Flash getting infernal pre-igniters off two factories, Losira sees it but loses the overlord. Roach warren for Losira.
8:00 Losira 65 vs Flash 67 +1/1 for Losira. Flash getting stim pack and two engineering bays! Flash getting a tank. Hellions try to run into the natural but instead find 13 workers at the third base.
9:00 Losira 85 vs Flash 83 Flash adding four more barracks. Losira sees this too because speed overlords. Two tanks for Flash. Losira getting a spire and a baneling nest. Flash getting another CC. +1/1 half done for Flash.
10:00 Losira 107 vs Flash 106 Burrow for Losira. Losira getting roach speed.
12:00 Losira 124 vs Flash 106 Flash getting turrets in his main base. Flash scans the natural of Losira. Flash trying to take a fourth base. Flash getting turrets and a sensor tower. Baneling land mines kill about 10 marines.
13:00 Losira 154 vs Flash 147 Flash lands his fourth CC. Flash has two thors. What sort of bio/mech is this? +1 mech attack for Flash as well as +2/2. Losira has his backdoor fourth base.
14:00 Losira 184 vs Flash 165 Flash getting another sensor tower. Flash moving out. Losira has so many banelings. Like 80 of them. Banelings run into the thors and marines and kill lots of things.
16:00 Losira 174 vs Flash 173 Losira taking a fifth base. Flash starting +3/3. Flash going for a marauder drop.
17:00 Losira 190 vs Flash 196 Losira has corrupters out. Flash dropping the fifth of Losira. +2 mech weapons for Flash.
18:00 Losira 196 vs Flash 200 Losira sacrifices a bunch of units in Flash's third while getting mutalisks. Ultralisk cavern for Losira. Losira getting 10 more corrupters. Flash is supply blocked.
19:00 Losira 200 vs Flash 200 FLash drops Losira's 5th and kills it while going for his fourth base. Brood lords are revealed. Losira surrounds all of Flash's units with mass zergling. Corrupters go after the medivacs. Meanwhile 12 drones die.
20:00 Losira 181 vs Flash Losira going after the fourth base with his brood lords. The PF of Flash falls and 14 SCVs die. Losira losing a lot of workers at home too.
21:00 Losira 172 vs Flash 171 Flash loads his entire army in medivacs and goes after Losira's fourth, which died earlier. Flash reconsiders and goes straight into the main base where an ultralisk just finished. Losira gets to his main in time but Flash picks up and goes for the third. The hype train of Flash is basically symbolized by these medivacs. A medivac dies to a spore crawler. Flash lands in the fifth base of Losira. Flash runs a bunch of Marines into the fourth but Losira holds that area with brood lords and zerglings.
23:00 Losira 195 vs Flash 164 Flash suddenly has like 10 vikings gainst no anti-air. Ultralisks crash into the third base of Flash and clean up some units. Lots of workers falling. Losira gets on top of barracks with his ultralisks. Flash regroups and kites the ultralisks.
25:00 Losira 116 vs Flash 93 Flash holds. Flash lands 15 vikings in the fourth of Losira but zerglings go after them.
26:00 Losira 146 vs Flash 85 Losira has 11 mutalisks out. Flash kills a bunch of overlords. Losira intercepts Flash's army on the retreat and kills all of the vikings but no bio. Flash lifts his fourth and GG's! Losira ties the series up 2-2!
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This was something that Old MVP always did in the Shoutcraft Clan Wars - their ace was someone they didn't send in the main match so that he could practice the Ace map exclusively.
On December 29 2014 22:52 Lorning wrote: Choya wat r u doin
He is just stupid. He is doing it on purpose too which is annoying. How he thinks YongHwa would be safe in a PvP or even vs TY the only other possible ace for KT is just silly.
I don't get why Flash failed so hard to do damage. Like with the marines he lost on the 4th of LosirA, doing nothing, or having 20 vikings in the air landing,lifting,landing,lifting, instead of sniping 20 overlords or the obvious muta switch not even sniping them when they were only 3 in the air.
However: impressive play of both players: Flash for once having the perfect defense, not losing lots to runbys, also the 4 thor strat seemed a good mixup. But Losira with his constant tech switches was abusing the fact that terran can't react fast enough perfectly "10 Brood lords in the air? Well now you go make vikings. Oh you finally have 40 supply in vikings? And what do you have on the ground?... "
On December 29 2014 22:52 Lorning wrote: Choya wat r u doin
He is just stupid. He is doing it on purpose too which is annoying. How he thinks YongHwa would be safe in a PvP or even vs TY the only other possible ace for KT is just silly.
On December 29 2014 22:52 Lorning wrote: Choya wat r u doin
He is just stupid. He is doing it on purpose too which is annoying. How he thinks YongHwa would be safe in a PvP or even vs TY the only other possible ace for KT is just silly.
Yonghwa would have beaten Flash
FlaSh isn't going to be the ace for quite sometimes.
On December 29 2014 22:53 SFDuality wrote: Finally a PvP ace match. I was beginning to lose faith in PvProleague.
well go and tell Blizzard. Not to change balance (seems better... almost ok now) but to make it more interesting to watch. Yeah GomTvT was lame because we saw 100s of mirrors, but it never got PvP lame, cause there is so much variety in TvT.
On December 29 2014 22:52 Lorning wrote: Choya wat r u doin
He is just stupid. He is doing it on purpose too which is annoying. How he thinks YongHwa would be safe in a PvP or even vs TY the only other possible ace for KT is just silly.
It's not that dumb, actually. TY looks hard to beat in vZ and MKP hasn't shown the best vT in SSL. Sending a protoss makes sence, if you expect KT to send TY.
On December 29 2014 22:54 Rollora wrote: I don't get why Flash failed so hard to do damage. Like with the marines he lost on the 4th of LosirA, doing nothing, or having 20 vikings in the air landing,lifting,landing,lifting, instead of sniping 20 overlords or the obvious muta switch not even sniping them when they were only 3 in the air.
with overlord speed? total zerg map control? and a bunch of mutas or corruptors expected to pop out any second? have fun overlord hunting.
Yonghwa makes sense over MKP, he probably was preparing PvT and PvP exclusively on this map, and MarineKing, while he might've been great against Stats and Zest, he would most likely lose to TY or Flash
On December 29 2014 22:52 Lorning wrote: Choya wat r u doin
He is just stupid. He is doing it on purpose too which is annoying. How he thinks YongHwa would be safe in a PvP or even vs TY the only other possible ace for KT is just silly.
It's not that dumb, actually. TY looks hard to beat in vZ and MKP hasn't shown the best vT in SSL. Sending a protoss makes sence, if you expect KT to send TY.
Didn't think so. So frustrating seeing him beat good players into Code S when you know he's just gonna bomb out super hard in RO32. Like FlaSh, but a round earlier.
On December 29 2014 22:54 Cheerio wrote: why would a team want to use as an ace somebody they didn't use in their lineup?
Prepared sniper; for the surprise factor; the coach is crazy. Pleny of reasons.
"coach is crazy" is my bet, but sometimes when his madness works he looks like a genius.
If sending Yonghwa counts as crazy now, what would you have said about someone sending Horror, BBi and dreamerTT back-to-back.to-back in an al-kill league?
You know it's a sick day of Proleague when you can watch a full match, go get a haircut in a nearby town, get back and still catch the second ace match
Seriously? Zergs have had it pretty hard the last months and terran start whining on zerg?
Well they got it hard because they didn't play many ZvTs in Jan-August 2014 (look at all the tourneys, most terrans got boxed out by Protoss very soon), so the meta couldn't evolve. It is still a very strong race with the right tools. Just look at life, losira etc...
On December 29 2014 22:54 Rollora wrote: I don't get why Flash failed so hard to do damage. Like with the marines he lost on the 4th of LosirA, doing nothing, or having 20 vikings in the air landing,lifting,landing,lifting, instead of sniping 20 overlords or the obvious muta switch not even sniping them when they were only 3 in the air.
However: impressive play of both players: Flash for once having the perfect defense, not losing lots to runbys, also the 4 thor strat seemed a good mixup. But Losira with his constant tech switches was abusing the fact that terran can't react fast enough perfectly "10 Brood lords in the air? Well now you go make vikings. Oh you finally have 40 supply in vikings? And what do you have on the ground?... "
Lol exactly what I thought, he makes 4 Thros, I mean 2 would be enough plus Widow Mines. Maybe he was expecting mass muta, I don't know. But then he overwhelmed the Broodlord and Corruptors with Vikings, and then I thought he would go around killing Overlords , they were RIGHT THERE, or at least be on standby to catch muta spawn. BUT NO, he would make half-assed attacks, even losing a few to LINGS and eventually lost his air superiority and consequently the game.
But at least he looked stable again with good defense, there's something to be built on that.
On December 29 2014 22:54 Rollora wrote: I don't get why Flash failed so hard to do damage. Like with the marines he lost on the 4th of LosirA, doing nothing, or having 20 vikings in the air landing,lifting,landing,lifting, instead of sniping 20 overlords or the obvious muta switch not even sniping them when they were only 3 in the air.
with overlord speed? total zerg map control? and a bunch of mutas or corruptors expected to pop out any second? have fun overlord hunting.
Yeah, I wish another BW unit that would be brought back would be Valkyries for Terran. Seriously need something other than Thors getting magic boxed to work against the zerg muta blob (yes mines and marines exist, but mines are invalidated due to overseers, and marines only work in sufficient numbers and are usually forced to split against ling bane). But I'm already treading balance whine waters so I'll stfu.
I think by choosing Zest over Flash in my FPL team ( and even as captain) i really dogded a bullet. Now zest please bring it home to make my choice solid. Because if you loose i merly chose a bad captain over an aweful captain (conecerning FPL)
On December 29 2014 23:04 Thrillz wrote: YongHwa over MKP?!?!?
WHAT MATE.
Risking MKP's TvT after SSL seemed to dangerous I guess. He probably would have been favored over Zest/Stats, but I wouldn't give him that big of a chance against Flash/TY.
YongHwa spawns in the bottom left Zest spawns in the top right
2:00 Both players opening gateway. Gas is faster for Zest and he gets a second assimilator faster.
3:00 YongHwa hiding a pylon near Zest;s third base. Cybernetics core for YongHwa. Cybernetics core for Zest. Zest scouting for proxies. Zest does not see the proxy pylon. YongHwa chronoboosting a stalker. Hidden second gateway for YongHwa.
4:00 Mothership core finishes for Zest. Zest getting a stargate. YongHwa getting two stalkers. Zest has units at the watchtower but YongHwa is at Zest's third base. Third gateway for YongHwa.
5:00 YongHwa gets into the main and kills the MSC but photon overcharge is activated. Zest getting a void ray. Warp gate finishes for Zest. YongHwa waiting for photon overcharge to expire. Second void ray on the way. Zest pulling probes. Void ray from Zest falls but his probe pull allows him to survive long enough to get a second one. Stargate for YongHwa. Zest gets a sentry and FF's a stalker into his main.
YongHwa spawns in the bottom left Zest spawns in the top right
2:00 Both players opening gateway. Gas is faster for Zest and he gets a second assimilator faster.
3:00 YongHwa hiding a pylon near Zest;s third base. Cybernetics core for YongHwa. Cybernetics core for Zest. Zest scouting for proxies. Zest does not see the proxy pylon. YongHwa chronoboosting a stalker. Hidden second gateway for YongHwa.
4:00 Mothership core finishes for Zest. Zest getting a stargate. YongHwa getting two stalkers. Zest has units at the watchtower but YongHwa is at Zest's third base. Third gateway for YongHwa.
5:00 YongHwa gets into the main and kills the MSC but photon overcharge is activated. Zest getting a void ray. Warp gate finishes for Zest. YongHwa waiting for photon overcharge to expire. Second void ray on the way. Zest pulling probes. Void ray from Zest falls but his probe pull allows him to survive long enough to get a second one. Stargate for YongHwa. Zest gets a sentry and FF's a stalker into his main.
8:00 YongHwa 41 vs Zest 34 YongHwa kills another void ray but the probe pull allows him to hold again. Yonghwa warps in a zealot. Oracle for YongHwa. YongHwa warping in more units.
9:00 YongHwa 42 vs Zest 28 YongHwa picks off all the stalkers except one. There's a zealot warpin against the probes. Zest GG's! MVP wins 3-2!
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On December 29 2014 23:00 XiaoJoyce- wrote: I have Yonghwa as Main , KT as my team .
Who should I support???
KT will get 1 point if the lose, 2 if the win. Yonghwa will get a lot more if he wins.
also SKT flair and you have KT?
SKT is long time ago ! Start watching Starcraft because of BoxeR , but I support Flash because he is the one who took out the Tyrant . . during the time where he is so invincible and nobody can beat Jaedong . . .
I feel fucking terrible. There are literally 2 teams that i am a fan of. Thats KT, and thats Borussia Dortmund in football. Now i cant decide which fucking sucks more at the moment
On December 29 2014 23:14 BlackCompany wrote: I feel fucking terrible. There are literally 2 teams that i am a fan of. Thats KT, and thats Borussia Dortmund in football. Now i cant decide which fucking sucks more at the moment
On December 29 2014 23:14 BlackCompany wrote: I feel fucking terrible. There are literally 2 teams that i am a fan of. Thats KT, and thats Borussia Dortmund in football. Now i cant decide which fucking sucks more at the moment
lol kt's still probably gonna win playoffs or smth
On December 29 2014 22:52 Ctesias wrote: Zest gonna wreck this scrub.
ahahahahahaha
:D But you have to be honest, with a cheese everone can win, even a lesser player/noob. So many 50 APM noobs on ladder going beyond diamond with their protoss bullshit.
I lose two points from MVP winning. But I gain 2 points from Losira winning, and an extra point from Losira being on the winning team. So I actually come out ahead from this match. Hot damn.
On December 29 2014 23:14 BlackCompany wrote: I feel fucking terrible. There are literally 2 teams that i am a fan of. Thats KT, and thats Borussia Dortmund in football. Now i cant decide which fucking sucks more at the moment
Dortmund is really really bad but KT just lost to an MVP full of early 2012 players ... So KT
On December 29 2014 23:14 BlackCompany wrote: I feel fucking terrible. There are literally 2 teams that i am a fan of. Thats KT, and thats Borussia Dortmund in football. Now i cant decide which fucking sucks more at the moment
Dortmund is really really bad but KT just lost to an MVP full of early 2012 players ... So KT
On December 29 2014 23:14 BlackCompany wrote: I feel fucking terrible. There are literally 2 teams that i am a fan of. Thats KT, and thats Borussia Dortmund in football. Now i cant decide which fucking sucks more at the moment
Look at it that way: KT will still play in the highest league next year and Dortmund... well, there is still CL, they could win.
On December 29 2014 23:14 BlackCompany wrote: I feel fucking terrible. There are literally 2 teams that i am a fan of. Thats KT, and thats Borussia Dortmund in football. Now i cant decide which fucking sucks more at the moment
Dortmund is really really bad but KT just lost to an MVP full of early 2012 players ... So KT
Early 2012 is all the rage right now. Check out code S.
On December 29 2014 23:14 BlackCompany wrote: I feel fucking terrible. There are literally 2 teams that i am a fan of. Thats KT, and thats Borussia Dortmund in football. Now i cant decide which fucking sucks more at the moment
Dortmund is really really bad but KT just lost to an MVP full of early 2012 players ... So KT
Dortmund can still won CL.
Imagine if Zest and Flash had injuries through half of the season... I guess Dortmund are shit but KT are worse
On December 29 2014 23:11 Rollora wrote: PvP, who has the better cheese, (not who is the better player)?
And that is why the matchup is so annoying
dat KeSPA tears
I don't even really know what KeSPA is or what it has to do with me not liking PvP or better me hating cheese, no matter the matchup. Its legit as a game strat, ok, but I don't like it. It gives lesser players a chance to compete, to suprprise, to upset. Which may be exciting for some. To me its exciting when the better player overall wins. You can now argue that using the right build in the right time is also showing you are a "better" player, but you know, I mean it in a "clean", macro way of things
On December 29 2014 23:14 BlackCompany wrote: I feel fucking terrible. There are literally 2 teams that i am a fan of. Thats KT, and thats Borussia Dortmund in football. Now i cant decide which fucking sucks more at the moment
Dortmund is really really bad but KT just lost to an MVP full of early 2012 players ... So KT
Early 2012 is all the rage right now. Check out code S.
I wouldn't classify Losira as early 2012 though, he made his GSL final mid 2011, IIRC and MLG Columbus happened around the same time.
On December 29 2014 23:14 BlackCompany wrote: I feel fucking terrible. There are literally 2 teams that i am a fan of. Thats KT, and thats Borussia Dortmund in football. Now i cant decide which fucking sucks more at the moment
both will regain strength. Flash has been playing terrible recently but he always had his lows and comes back stronger.
Dortmund will also rise again, but not to the strength they had 2-3 yrs ago.
On December 29 2014 23:22 OtherWorld wrote: Is it absurd to think that the current bad performances by KT may be caused by Ryu Won changing the players' habits?
Flash is Patchterran. Zest slumps. And a team with only 4 core player will not succed this year. You need the rotation to buffer slumps and weaknesses.
On December 29 2014 22:48 Lorning wrote: Gimme MKP in that ace match
I need Zest, someone has to counter Dark winning an ace match while on my fucking anti-team.
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Why would you anti Dark? He's literally the Dark horse of the league.
Get it? Dark? Dark horse? Ok I'll stop now.
I've had like 7 seasons of nearly perfect antiteams in a row and just got way too cocky in my judgement. -______-
Ed: I was gonna swap him for MKP this week after last week, but I had a lot of faith in JinAir going 3-0 (and Dark *did* lose his first match). RIP FPL
On December 29 2014 23:11 Rollora wrote: PvP, who has the better cheese, (not who is the better player)?
And that is why the matchup is so annoying
dat KeSPA tears
I don't even really know what KeSPA is or what it has to do with me not liking PvP or better me hating cheese, no matter the matchup. Its legit as a game strat, ok, but I don't like it. It gives lesser players a chance to compete, to suprprise, to upset. Which may be exciting for some. To me its exciting when the better player overall wins. You can now argue that using the right build in the right time is also showing you are a "better" player, but you know, I mean it in a "clean", macro way of things
You are entitled to your own opinion and I can't say I enjoy "cheese" much myself but if you think the players you like are "better" player you are just fooling yourself. Your arguement is pretty much as saying that dunks in basketball isn't really fair, I don't like them I think only three pointers should count and strategize for dunks is just for poor players or poor teams. Its just your opinion nothing else, macro is just one part of sc2.
To be even more frank though cheese never succeeds (with proper defence) if the players play safe, you know what that means. That means that the "macro" players you like so much are pretty much being greedy (mild version macro cheese) to play macro so well.
If they really were macro gods, they would open safe knowing that they would be able to defend cheese and then play into the mid-late game without being overly risky greedy. They don't do that, they say "hey I'm not sure I can win against you in a total even macro game so I'm going to be overly greedy and then hopefully I can win a macro game".
Winning a macro game when going into the mid game in a very advantegous economical position is hardly being "the best macro player".
On December 29 2014 23:16 Circumstance wrote: I lose two points from MVP winning. But I gain 2 points from Losira winning, and an extra point from Losira being on the winning team. So I actually come out ahead from this match. Hot damn.
I'm not clear on the rules, but how does that make sense? If you win when Losira's team loses and lose when MVP wins, you can't ever get a full victory on this front, can you?
On December 30 2014 00:04 Pandemona wrote: Well i have just finished eating that humble pie. Still don't think it was wise sending out YoungHwa but he won so...stfu panda.
I just don't think MVP has a 'wise' choice to send against Zest in the first place
On December 30 2014 02:38 [PkF] Wire wrote: KT, Zest and Flash are worrying me. I hope those two setbacks give them what it takes to carry out self-examination and to come back stronger.
You needn't worry about Zest. He lost a PvT and today he was sniped (happens to the very best). He is still fine
On December 30 2014 00:04 Pandemona wrote: Well i have just finished eating that humble pie. Still don't think it was wise sending out YoungHwa but he won so...stfu panda.
I just don't think MVP has a 'wise' choice to send against Zest in the first place
On December 30 2014 02:38 [PkF] Wire wrote: KT, Zest and Flash are worrying me. I hope those two setbacks give them what it takes to carry out self-examination and to come back stronger.
You needn't worry about Zest. He lost a PvT and today he was sniped (happens to the very best). He is still fine
Of course he is still fine. But there is no denying he hasn't been extremely good for quite some time now.
On December 30 2014 02:38 [PkF] Wire wrote: KT, Zest and Flash are worrying me. I hope those two setbacks give them what it takes to carry out self-examination and to come back stronger.
You needn't worry about Zest. He lost a PvT and today he was sniped (happens to the very best). He is still fine
Of course he is still fine. But there is no denying he hasn't been extremely good for quite some time now.
I dunno, he failed two qualifiers which were held a few days apart, but that's pretty much it?
On December 30 2014 02:38 [PkF] Wire wrote: KT, Zest and Flash are worrying me. I hope those two setbacks give them what it takes to carry out self-examination and to come back stronger.
Doesn't look too promising towards next week's Telecom clash. I wish they'd give Action a chance but it's probably the same quartet...
How is a fresh underdog defeating an established, accomplished team backed by a huge corporation evil in any way? : S MVP represent all that's good in the world.
On December 29 2014 23:36 Clonester wrote: Flash is Patchterran. Zest slumps. And a team with only 4 core player will not succed this year. You need the rotation to buffer slumps and weaknesses.
Obvious troll is obvious
in 2014 PL he is one of the players with most wins, more wins then most protoss in PL had and that in a period where only protoss won tournaments. Btw since today Maru lost twice as many games as Flash did, does it makes him twice as bad?
On December 29 2014 23:11 Rollora wrote: PvP, who has the better cheese, (not who is the better player)?
And that is why the matchup is so annoying
dat KeSPA tears
I don't even really know what KeSPA is or what it has to do with me not liking PvP or better me hating cheese, no matter the matchup. Its legit as a game strat, ok, but I don't like it. It gives lesser players a chance to compete, to suprprise, to upset. Which may be exciting for some. To me its exciting when the better player overall wins. You can now argue that using the right build in the right time is also showing you are a "better" player, but you know, I mean it in a "clean", macro way of things
You are entitled to your own opinion and I can't say I enjoy "cheese" much myself but if you think the players you like are "better" player you are just fooling yourself. Your arguement is pretty much as saying that dunks in basketball isn't really fair, I don't like them I think only three pointers should count and strategize for dunks is just for poor players or poor teams. Its just your opinion nothing else, macro is just one part of sc2.
To be even more frank though cheese never succeeds (with proper defence) if the players play safe, you know what that means. That means that the "macro" players you like so much are pretty much being greedy (mild version macro cheese) to play macro so well.
If they really were macro gods, they would open safe knowing that they would be able to defend cheese and then play into the mid-late game without being overly risky greedy. They don't do that, they say "hey I'm not sure I can win against you in a total even macro game so I'm going to be overly greedy and then hopefully I can win a macro game".
Winning a macro game when going into the mid game in a very advantegous economical position is hardly being "the best macro player".
I didn't mean it that way. You can still lose to cheese if scouted, besides it can be hidden so it can NOT be scouted (you can't look everywhere). Its not that I favor someone, it was clearly a prepared sniper build, from a player that didn't play in normal matchups. I am not judging from one game, so give the guy a chance. I would like to see a BO5 or 7 between the 2, with cheeses, doesn't matter. I don't see pulling off one win via cheese is a good benchmark wether a player is better then the other.
I wouldn't mind every once in a while some cheese mixed in. But in PvP its almost every game, and its boring now. Relying to win a game only based on your opponent not scouting/being caught off guard is just lame in my eyes, but it's, as pointed out - a legit strat.
Besides, I had no favorites. I don't really care about PvP and since I am just recovering from the boredom of almost a year protoss dominance, that won't change in the next few months. Also I never liked PvP even before, since its volatile, lasers and just boring to me.
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SKT vs Jin air = +11 points. Literally couldn't have got more points with my lineup. KT vs MVP = -7 points. Literally couldn't have got less points with my lineup.
On December 30 2014 08:45 BisuDagger wrote: 0-2 and everyone should still fear kt. They have the strongest coaches in PL. Even with a bad round 1, they cannot be counted out.
Plenty of rounds left, KT will be fine. Slumps don't last all year.
On December 30 2014 08:45 BisuDagger wrote: 0-2 and everyone should still fear kt. They have the strongest coaches in PL. Even with a bad round 1, they cannot be counted out.
Plenty of rounds left, KT will be fine. Slumps don't last all year.
On December 30 2014 08:45 BisuDagger wrote: 0-2 and everyone should still fear kt. They have the strongest coaches in PL. Even with a bad round 1, they cannot be counted out.
Plenty of rounds left, KT will be fine. Slumps don't last all year.
Dear, Soulkey, Prime....
Dear went to foreign team, RIP. We'll see how he goes now he's back in KeSPA. Prime isn't slumping, they're just bad. SK you might have a point.
On December 30 2014 08:45 BisuDagger wrote: 0-2 and everyone should still fear kt. They have the strongest coaches in PL. Even with a bad round 1, they cannot be counted out.
On December 30 2014 08:45 BisuDagger wrote: 0-2 and everyone should still fear kt. They have the strongest coaches in PL. Even with a bad round 1, they cannot be counted out.
Plenty of rounds left, KT will be fine. Slumps don't last all year.
On December 30 2014 08:45 BisuDagger wrote: 0-2 and everyone should still fear kt. They have the strongest coaches in PL. Even with a bad round 1, they cannot be counted out.
Plenty of rounds left, KT will be fine. Slumps don't last all year.
Dear, Soulkey, Prime....
DongRaeGu, HuK, Scarlett
I can't tell what your trying to imply, all of those people have slumped in the last year.
On December 30 2014 08:45 BisuDagger wrote: 0-2 and everyone should still fear kt. They have the strongest coaches in PL. Even with a bad round 1, they cannot be counted out.
On December 30 2014 08:45 BisuDagger wrote: 0-2 and everyone should still fear kt. They have the strongest coaches in PL. Even with a bad round 1, they cannot be counted out.
Plenty of rounds left, KT will be fine. Slumps don't last all year.
Dear, Soulkey, Prime....
DongRaeGu, HuK, Scarlett
I can't tell what your trying to imply, all of those people have slumped in the last year.
DRG did fine. ro8 finish in code S, won a RedBull tournament and he held on to code S for all of 2014. Given how he looked to be on his way out for most of HotS in 2013 I'd say 2014 was an improvement.
Can't understand why people think Soulkey is slumping either. No shame in going 0-3 against Rogue. It's ZvZ and Rogue has been on the rise as a Zerg titan for over a year. Soulkey is also still in gsl.
On December 30 2014 08:45 BisuDagger wrote: 0-2 and everyone should still fear kt. They have the strongest coaches in PL. Even with a bad round 1, they cannot be counted out.
Plenty of rounds left, KT will be fine. Slumps don't last all year.
Dear, Soulkey, Prime....
DongRaeGu, HuK, Scarlett
I can't tell what your trying to imply, all of those people have slumped in the last year.
DRG did fine. ro8 finish in code S, won a RedBull tournament and he held on to code S for all of 2014. Given how he looked to be on his way out for most of HotS in 2013 I'd say 2014 was an improvement.
Can't understand why people think Soulkey is slumping either. No shame in going 0-3 against Rogue. It's ZvZ and Rogue has been on the rise as a Zerg titan for over a year. Soulkey is also still in gsl.
soulkey had an extremely lackluster 2014 is the point i'm trying to make, moreso with dear.
On December 30 2014 13:40 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On December 30 2014 12:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On December 30 2014 12:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On December 30 2014 11:29 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 30 2014 09:40 Phredxor wrote:
On December 30 2014 08:45 BisuDagger wrote: 0-2 and everyone should still fear kt. They have the strongest coaches in PL. Even with a bad round 1, they cannot be counted out.
Plenty of rounds left, KT will be fine. Slumps don't last all year.
Dear, Soulkey, Prime....
DongRaeGu, HuK, Scarlett
I can't tell what your trying to imply, all of those people have slumped in the last year.
DRG did fine. ro8 finish in code S, won a RedBull tournament and he held on to code S for all of 2014. Given how he looked to be on his way out for most of HotS in 2013 I'd say 2014 was an improvement.
Can't understand why people think Soulkey is slumping either. No shame in going 0-3 against Rogue. It's ZvZ and Rogue has been on the rise as a Zerg titan for over a year. Soulkey is also still in gsl.
soulkey had an extremely lackluster 2014 is the point i'm trying to make, moreso with dear.
Did he really though? ro16 -> ro8 -> ro16 code S. He also went 20-11 in SPL last season.
Lower win rate than RorO and ByuL but more games played. He had to compete with SKT's god-tier lineup for playtime too.
I don't think that's too bad for a guy who stayed in Korea all year.
On December 30 2014 13:40 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On December 30 2014 12:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On December 30 2014 12:37 Cricketer12 wrote:
On December 30 2014 11:29 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On December 30 2014 09:40 Phredxor wrote:
On December 30 2014 08:45 BisuDagger wrote: 0-2 and everyone should still fear kt. They have the strongest coaches in PL. Even with a bad round 1, they cannot be counted out.
Plenty of rounds left, KT will be fine. Slumps don't last all year.
Dear, Soulkey, Prime....
DongRaeGu, HuK, Scarlett
I can't tell what your trying to imply, all of those people have slumped in the last year.
DRG did fine. ro8 finish in code S, won a RedBull tournament and he held on to code S for all of 2014. Given how he looked to be on his way out for most of HotS in 2013 I'd say 2014 was an improvement.
Can't understand why people think Soulkey is slumping either. No shame in going 0-3 against Rogue. It's ZvZ and Rogue has been on the rise as a Zerg titan for over a year. Soulkey is also still in gsl.
soulkey had an extremely lackluster 2014 is the point i'm trying to make, moreso with dear.
Did he really though? ro16 -> ro8 -> ro16 code S. He also went 20-11 in SPL last season.
Lower win rate than RorO and ByuL but more games played. He had to compete with SKT's god-tier lineup for playtime too.
I don't think that's too bad for a guy who stayed in Korea all year.
it contrasts a lot between how successful he was with 2013, top 8 in every tournament he played in and a lot of finals/wins.
On December 30 2014 08:45 BisuDagger wrote: 0-2 and everyone should still fear kt. They have the strongest coaches in PL. Even with a bad round 1, they cannot be counted out.
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