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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
December 18 2014 13:56 GMT
#1421
On December 18 2014 22:53 Ctesias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 22:53 Yorkie wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:50 TheDwf wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:49 Alchemik wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:48 TheDwf wrote:
No more Global seeds next season please

at least better than Flash

Except Flash actually qualified

If Life hadn't gotten a seed he would've qualified and been seeded differently. Then Life vs Flash in round one wouldn't have happened and they would have both made it further imo

I wouldn't be sure of anyone qualifying for this tournament, with neither Zest nor soO doing so.

True, you can never be sure with how unforgiving and volatile these qualifiers are. I just meant that Life is in good form right now so he'd have a pretty good chance at qualifying. In the end though I'm pretty happy he got a seed to eliminate tat small chance of him not making it
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
940 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 13:58:56
December 18 2014 13:58 GMT
#1422
edit
:3
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 18 2014 13:58 GMT
#1423
On December 18 2014 22:55 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 22:50 TheDwf wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:49 Alchemik wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:48 TheDwf wrote:
No more Global seeds next season please

at least better than Flash

Except Flash actually qualified


Yeah but as long as the seeded players don't look bad compared to the qualified players it's not that big of an issue. People are complaining about seeds here but are also complaining that Zest and soO didn't get seeds. I think 3 or 4 seeds is ok for that extra hype, no more than that though..

Well, those are different people with different opinions. 100% qualification is the best as far as I'm concerned. Zest and soO failing to qualify for both individual leagues shows that artificially protecting the best performers of the last months is stupid/counterproductive. Just look at how Flash performed today, I don't even want to imagine the bashing had he been invited instead...
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
December 18 2014 13:59 GMT
#1424
On December 18 2014 22:58 Starecat wrote:


?

He tweeted this a few hours after his loss in SSL to Terminator yesterday. Seems he's keeping a pretty positive mindset, which I must say is a huge improvement for him haha
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
December 18 2014 14:01 GMT
#1425
Life and TY won. Surprise surprise (-.-) zzzZZZZ

But Dream beating Solar... wow just wow. I didn't think Dream had it in him to beat a top 3 Zerg. Seriously, Solar is one of the best Zergs in the world and Dream just stomps him like this? Great play by Dream. This clearly shows that Dream has what it takes to be contender for best player in the world. I wouldn't be surprised if Dream won this whole thing. He is that good right now.
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 18 2014 14:03 GMT
#1426
On December 18 2014 23:01 swag_bro wrote:
Life and TY won. Surprise surprise (-.-) zzzZZZZ

But Dream beating Solar... wow just wow. I didn't think Dream had it in him to beat a top 3 Zerg. Seriously, Solar is one of the best Zergs in the world and Dream just stomps him like this? Great play by Dream. This clearly shows that Dream has what it takes to be contender for best player in the world. I wouldn't be surprised if Dream won this whole thing. He is that good right now.

With the zerg-heavy lineup that SSL is boasting, Dream should be able to crush everyone pretty easily as long as he avoids the non-zergs and the zergs that are really good at ZvT. He's been wrecking face everywhere too!
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ivancype
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil485 Posts
December 18 2014 14:05 GMT
#1427
On December 18 2014 22:53 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 22:50 TheDwf wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:49 Alchemik wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:48 TheDwf wrote:
No more Global seeds next season please

at least better than Flash

Except Flash actually qualified

If Life hadn't gotten a seed he would've qualified and been seeded differently. Then Life vs Flash in round one wouldn't have happened and they would have both made it further imo


I think seeds were not used to determine matches for challenge and were defined randomly. I mean, players who finished first in their qualifier group were matched against other first (Dark vs Parting) or second against second (Solar vs Dream).
The other race is OP
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 14:15:39
December 18 2014 14:06 GMT
#1428
On December 18 2014 22:58 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 22:55 Musicus wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:50 TheDwf wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:49 Alchemik wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:48 TheDwf wrote:
No more Global seeds next season please

at least better than Flash

Except Flash actually qualified


Yeah but as long as the seeded players don't look bad compared to the qualified players it's not that big of an issue. People are complaining about seeds here but are also complaining that Zest and soO didn't get seeds. I think 3 or 4 seeds is ok for that extra hype, no more than that though..

Well, those are different people with different opinions. 100% qualification is the best as far as I'm concerned. Zest and soO failing to qualify for both individual leagues shows that artificially protecting the best performers of the last months is stupid/counterproductive. Just look at how Flash performed today, I don't even want to imagine the bashing had he been invited instead...


I think it would've been good if they had been seeded, the qualifiers are just that brutal that the best player in the world can get knocked out easily. It's not like the WCS qualifer were you have 7 tries and the best player will surely make it. So to have real consistent champions and storylines, like back in BW/wc3, they should've just seeded the best 4/8 performers into the next tournament, just as they did back then. Thankfully that will be the case again from season 1 to 2 afaik. Just sad they didn't do it from last season into this one. For WCS the reset makes sense, because of the new regulations and 7 qualifiers, but for GSL there should've been seeds. SoO had a real Yellow storyline going, something like that is needed for starcraft in Korea and now we won't see him at all :/.

Edit: If they would adjust the qualifier it would also be ok, but they won't do that.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5449 Posts
December 18 2014 14:10 GMT
#1429
Hey that interviewer girl is on the subway. She changed into pants. Haha
Samx
Profile Joined August 2013
Singapore149 Posts
December 18 2014 14:11 GMT
#1430
Games today are a bit meh compared to yesterday. Highlights today was game 2 of ty vs Scarlett. Ty's multi-tasking was insane, even the observer couldn't keep up. Moonglade had to keep telling us about other attacks elsewhere happening at the same time. Another good point was dream's Thor medivac micro. Pre split the bio and mines. Micro the Thor. Nice.
Our enemies are a legion and STILL you procrastinate
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 18 2014 14:11 GMT
#1431
On December 18 2014 22:53 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 22:50 TheDwf wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:49 Alchemik wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:48 TheDwf wrote:
No more Global seeds next season please

at least better than Flash

Except Flash actually qualified

If Life hadn't gotten a seed he would've qualified and been seeded differently. Then Life vs Flash in round one wouldn't have happened and they would have both made it further imo

Flash wouldn't have made it much further the way he played today. He would have lost to a lot more players than just Life
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rgbAndraxxus
Profile Joined August 2012
32 Posts
December 18 2014 14:19 GMT
#1432
On December 18 2014 23:10 SoleSteeler wrote:
Hey that interviewer girl is on the subway. She changed into pants. Haha

Haha stalker blink next to her, tell her she's doing a good job. It's always nice to be appreciated for doing a good job. Unless it would be awkward.

Also I think the games were not too bad, just mines being mines -.-".
Only when you are able to see the qualities of your enemy, will you have what it takes to see your flaws.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 18 2014 14:19 GMT
#1433
On December 18 2014 23:11 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 22:53 Yorkie wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:50 TheDwf wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:49 Alchemik wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:48 TheDwf wrote:
No more Global seeds next season please

at least better than Flash

Except Flash actually qualified

If Life hadn't gotten a seed he would've qualified and been seeded differently. Then Life vs Flash in round one wouldn't have happened and they would have both made it further imo

Flash wouldn't have made it much further the way he played today. He would have lost to a lot more players than just Life


Hell, I think even Scarlett could have beaten him today. If only the KT players were switched around...
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5595 Posts
December 18 2014 14:29 GMT
#1434
At least Flash can focus 100% on SPL now, TY needs individual triumphs more.
don't wall off against random
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 18 2014 14:30 GMT
#1435
On December 18 2014 23:06 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 22:58 TheDwf wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:55 Musicus wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:50 TheDwf wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:49 Alchemik wrote:
On December 18 2014 22:48 TheDwf wrote:
No more Global seeds next season please

at least better than Flash

Except Flash actually qualified


Yeah but as long as the seeded players don't look bad compared to the qualified players it's not that big of an issue. People are complaining about seeds here but are also complaining that Zest and soO didn't get seeds. I think 3 or 4 seeds is ok for that extra hype, no more than that though..

Well, those are different people with different opinions. 100% qualification is the best as far as I'm concerned. Zest and soO failing to qualify for both individual leagues shows that artificially protecting the best performers of the last months is stupid/counterproductive. Just look at how Flash performed today, I don't even want to imagine the bashing had he been invited instead...


I think it would've been good if they had been seeded, the qualifiers are just that brutal that the best player in the world can get knocked out easily. It's not like the WCS qualifer were you have 7 tries and the best player will surely make it. So to have real consistent champions and storylines, like back in BW/wc3, they should've just seeded the best 4/8 performers into the next tournament, just as they did back then. Thankfully that will be the case again from season 1 to 2 afaik. Just sad they didn't do it from last season into this one. For WCS the reset makes sense, because of the new regulations and 7 qualifiers, but for GSL there should've been seeds. SoO had a real Yellow storyline going, something like that is needed for starcraft in Korea and now we won't see him at all :/.

Edit: If they would adjust the qualifier it would also be ok, but they won't do that.

I was talking about SSL since it's a new league. For GSL, keeping a few seeds would have been OK since going from Code S RO4/runner-up/winner to Code B is a bit brutal, though a full reset is fine by me too (problem was more the lack of Code A for the top48 players, i.e. those who ended up top3 in those qualifiers). They should either run the qualifiers like in WCS Europe this season, or use a full double elimination bracket with the 2 qualifying matches (Winner bracket finals + Loser bracket finals) being bo5. For the rest, the upset/lottery aspect is sadly fully assumed from SC2 developers, so... /:
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
December 18 2014 14:45 GMT
#1436
I had to go to work about 10-12 minutes into the 2nd game of Life vs. Flash. Flash was up ~45 supply and putting huge pressure on Life's 3rd while Life was struggling to defend with a few roaches and slow banes. How did he manage to win that game!?
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 18 2014 14:48 GMT
#1437
On December 18 2014 23:45 sparklyresidue wrote:
I had to go to work about 10-12 minutes into the 2nd game of Life vs. Flash. Flash was up ~45 supply and putting huge pressure on Life's 3rd while Life was struggling to defend with a few roaches and slow banes. How did he manage to win that game!?

Flash was wayyyy too cautious, so his lead weakened and eventually disappeared
Estancia
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)335 Posts
December 18 2014 14:49 GMT
#1438
On December 18 2014 23:48 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 23:45 sparklyresidue wrote:
I had to go to work about 10-12 minutes into the 2nd game of Life vs. Flash. Flash was up ~45 supply and putting huge pressure on Life's 3rd while Life was struggling to defend with a few roaches and slow banes. How did he manage to win that game!?

Flash was wayyyy too cautious, so his lead weakened and eventually disappeared


He threw away his game by being too aggressive and overstimming his bio against parting, and then threw away game today because he got too cautious against life.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 18 2014 15:16 GMT
#1439
didn't get to watch it live/follow the LR


were there many tears?
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 18 2014 15:17 GMT
#1440
On December 19 2014 00:16 Ej_ wrote:
didn't get to watch it live/follow the LR


were there many tears?


Over Flash yes, most people expected Scarlett to get destroyed so it wasn't so bad.
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