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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 17 2014 19:43 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 19:40 Zealously wrote:On December 17 2014 19:38 Big J wrote:On December 17 2014 19:35 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 19:33 Big J wrote:
cool story for zergs having the better guy advance
sad story for starcraft having these sorts of games 4years after release blame soulkey and not the game for what? He got bad BO luck 2times.If he builds a pool first, Rouge gets the bad build order luck and the games are still bad. Then he got another bad BO luck. If you are up against a hatch first with that fast speed you have to go speedlings+banelings, and if your opponent isn't aggressive when you are already behind after pool first and speedlings and banelings vs hatch first speed only then you have to attack, because you won't catch up in the macro game for free. It's not build order "luck" if one player plays like an idiot and the other recognizes that and does something about it. I must have missed the 6supply scout from Rouge then that made him "recognize" what Soulkey did. Though I didn't... There's nothing Rouge recognized, it was blind flight in all those games when deciding to allin or to hatch first, just the same as for SKs.
Do you think it was coincidence that lead Rogue to pulling the same build again after it worked so well in the first game? And to take it one step further, do you think Rogue picked that build randomly without any prior planning?
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On December 17 2014 19:46 Ctesias wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 19:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Official comparison: Twitch stutters less but is more resource intensive and can only watch on medium. Azubu I can do 720, but the stuttering is crazy bad on any setting for some reason. Azubu works perfectly on source for me.
Not for me, but I think it has more to do with my 4 year old laptop than anything else.
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On December 17 2014 19:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Official comparison: Twitch stutters less but is more resource intensive and can only watch on medium. Azubu I can do 720, but the stuttering is crazy bad on any setting for some reason.
Youtube pretty god
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On December 17 2014 19:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Today is the day of JinAir, prepare to be salty Taeja and Classic fans!
Classic has fans?
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Rogue 3-0 Soulkey and instantly nobody anywhere thinks about the absence of liquibets anymore
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On December 17 2014 19:48 Ctesias wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 19:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Today is the day of JinAir, prepare to be salty Taeja and Classic fans! Classic has fans?
Me!
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Mute City2363 Posts
On December 17 2014 19:43 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 19:40 Zealously wrote:On December 17 2014 19:38 Big J wrote:On December 17 2014 19:35 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 19:33 Big J wrote:
cool story for zergs having the better guy advance
sad story for starcraft having these sorts of games 4years after release blame soulkey and not the game for what? He got bad BO luck 2times.If he builds a pool first, Rouge gets the bad build order luck and the games are still bad. Then he got another bad BO luck. If you are up against a hatch first with that fast speed you have to go speedlings+banelings, and if your opponent isn't aggressive when you are already behind after pool first and speedlings and banelings vs hatch first speed only then you have to attack, because you won't catch up in the macro game for free. It's not build order "luck" if one player plays like an idiot and the other recognizes that and does something about it. I must have missed the 6supply scout from Rouge then that made him "recognize" what Soulkey did. Though I didn't... There's nothing Rouge recognized, it was blind flight in all those games when deciding to allin or to hatch first, just the same as for SKs.
I must have missed sOs's 6 supply scout in hot6ix, but no one's saying that he was lucky
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On December 17 2014 19:45 Shellshock wrote:
I saw Olli cheer for Classic earlier so I feel obligated to cheer for Cure
You cheeky cunt
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But it WAS a lucky BO advantage. All ZvZ starts with a blind gamble.
Soulkey current form or ZvZ woes have nothing to do with this fact.
edit: We can give credit for Rogue preparation, but there was lucky involved no matter how you bend it :/
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France9034 Posts
Hello fellow LR people.
How is lichter's stream the only one? No official? (Not that I have anything personal against lichter of course  )
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On December 17 2014 19:47 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 19:43 Big J wrote:On December 17 2014 19:40 Zealously wrote:On December 17 2014 19:38 Big J wrote:On December 17 2014 19:35 The_Red_Viper wrote:On December 17 2014 19:33 Big J wrote:
cool story for zergs having the better guy advance
sad story for starcraft having these sorts of games 4years after release blame soulkey and not the game for what? He got bad BO luck 2times.If he builds a pool first, Rouge gets the bad build order luck and the games are still bad. Then he got another bad BO luck. If you are up against a hatch first with that fast speed you have to go speedlings+banelings, and if your opponent isn't aggressive when you are already behind after pool first and speedlings and banelings vs hatch first speed only then you have to attack, because you won't catch up in the macro game for free. It's not build order "luck" if one player plays like an idiot and the other recognizes that and does something about it. I must have missed the 6supply scout from Rouge then that made him "recognize" what Soulkey did. Though I didn't... There's nothing Rouge recognized, it was blind flight in all those games when deciding to allin or to hatch first, just the same as for SKs. Do you think it was coincidence that lead Rogue to pulling the same build again after it worked so well in the first game? And to take it one step further, do you think Rogue picked that build randomly without any prior planning?
Do you think it was coincidence that lead SK to pulling the same build again even though it didn't work so well in the first game? And to take it one step further, do you think SK picked that build randomly without any prior planning?
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 17 2014 19:49 Superbanana wrote:
But it WAS a lucky BO advantage. All ZvZ starts with a blind gamble.
Soulkey current form or ZvZ woes have nothing to do with this fact.
It was a BO advantage, I'm just disputing the notion that it was random luck that made it happen twice.
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On December 17 2014 19:48 Nebuchad wrote:
Rogue 3-0 Soulkey and instantly nobody anywhere thinks about the absence of liquibets anymore
haha i actually do, i had hoped we will get to bet on the ro32 of ssl, but whatever...^^
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France9034 Posts
Also, just caught up, lol Rogue 3 - 0 Sk.
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Cure will destroy Classic I think. 3-1.
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United States97277 Posts
On December 17 2014 19:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 19:48 Nebuchad wrote:
Rogue 3-0 Soulkey and instantly nobody anywhere thinks about the absence of liquibets anymore haha i actually do, i had hoped we will get to bet on the ro32 of ssl, but whatever...^^
yell at seeker. he does liquibet
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On December 17 2014 19:50 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 19:49 Superbanana wrote:
But it WAS a lucky BO advantage. All ZvZ starts with a blind gamble.
Soulkey current form or ZvZ woes have nothing to do with this fact. It was a BO advantage, I'm just disputing the notion that it was random luck that made it happen twice.
Then i fully agree.
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On December 17 2014 19:49 Superbanana wrote:
But it WAS a lucky BO advantage. All ZvZ starts with a blind gamble.
Soulkey current form or ZvZ woes have nothing to do with this fact.
edit: We can give credit for Rogue preparation, but there was lucky involved no matter how you bend it :/
A lot of people think all gambles are blind (and therefore bad). That's an inacurrate notion. There is skill in how and when you choose to gamble. And conversely there is skill in how you predict people's gambling choices and how you react to them accordingly.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On December 17 2014 19:49 Ragnarork wrote:Hello fellow LR people. How is lichter's stream the only one? No official? (Not that I have anything personal against lichter of course )
It's the official one.
SSL didn't register their stream on TL so I had to do it in order to pin their stream live.
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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