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Lorning
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/se7Kqzo.png) Sunday, Nov 23 1:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/32_Boys_1_Cup More info: Click here ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png)  BaseTradeTVCasters: Rifkin | ZombieGrub ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6wl40.png) Semifinals ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/2322.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/688.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/4797.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/2106.jpg)  PartinG vs  Losira Solar vs  GuMiho![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bv8Kw.png) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/32_Boys_1_Cup#Playoffs ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WdLE8.png) Here | ||
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PartinG 3-0 LosiraSolar 2-3 GuMihoLosira 2-1 SolarPartinG 3-4 GuMihoOn November 23 2014 09:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Any one of these players can win this Agreed. | ||
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PartinG 3-2 LosiraGuMiho 3-0 SolarLosira 2-1 SolarPartinG 4-1 GuMiho | ||
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BasetradeTV
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Semi's A Bo5 Semi's B Bo5 Bronze Bo3 Finals Bo7 | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
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PartinG 2-3 Losira (get rekt everyone!)Solar 1-3 GuMiho PartinG 0-3 SolarGuMiho 3-4 Losira (please be good) | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
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PartinG 3-1 LosiraSolar 3-2 GuMihoGuMiho 2-1 Losira Solar 4-3 PartinG with PartinG going up 3-1 again. | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
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On November 23 2014 12:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I think Solar, though still possible, has the lowest chance of winning. Haven't seen much of GuMiho recently and I haven't had the chance to see Losira play at HSC so I couldn't accurately say. | ||
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royalroadweed
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On November 23 2014 12:27 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Haven't seen much of GuMiho recently and I haven't had the chance to see Losira play at HSC so I couldn't accurately say. GuMiho has been tearing up the leifeng cup and qualifiers since he left CJ. He has wins over players like Solar, Bbyong, and Stats. He on good form, however he did play about 300 games in the last 2 months, so his opponents have tons they can use to prepare for him  | ||
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Holdenintherye
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gogo parting! | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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On November 23 2014 14:09 Holdenintherye wrote: Can't see a situation where parting doesn't wreck face and wins this gogo parting! Godiho might be able to, we never know! | ||
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Pyloss
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Solar vs Gumhio should be close, i hope for a Gumiho victory. Then Parting should be able to beat Gumiho, but he is surely a really good player and in really good form atm, so it should be fun to watch! | ||
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TheDwf
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On November 23 2014 12:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I think Solar, though still possible, has the lowest chance of winning. LosirA has the lowest chance of winning. If Solar manages to overcome his nemesis GuMiho (1-9 so far!), he has this. | ||
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Lorning
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Doublemint
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GOGO SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS PARTING & TOWELTERRAN FIGHTING! | ||
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Lorning
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royalroadweed
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On November 23 2014 22:22 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: One would think that a Roach opening would be more advantageous against mech. Not so much when you have 4-5 banshees. | ||
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On November 23 2014 22:35 royalroadweed wrote: Not so much when you have 4-5 banshees. He had one Banshee with the push. But Solar had no detection. | ||
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royalroadweed
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On November 23 2014 23:02 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: I think we'll see little to no success from Zerg until the ladderpool is changing. Every Korean Zerg just tries to all in since the ladder pool changed. Wouldn't they just play customs with teammates? | ||
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Doublemint
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On November 23 2014 23:05 royalroadweed wrote: Wouldn't they just play customs with teammates? haha I think he meant the competitive pool which stayed the same. and I agree with him. | ||
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On November 23 2014 23:05 royalroadweed wrote: Wouldn't they just play customs with teammates? Not even the Kespa players does that any more. The teams are to small I guess. | ||
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Cool that he made the Proxy hatch a little bit from the original spot, so Parting had to make Cannons closer to the hatch. | ||
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uhh early pool vs. gate first. parting should be totally fine | ||
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soooooon. Edit, haha I know shit. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
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1 more Catzerg | ||
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sparklyresidue
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On November 24 2014 00:07 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: Losira Is 100% dead. soooooon. Reborn as KangHo, died again, then RE-re-born as Losira ! | ||
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HellHound
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On November 24 2014 00:09 Ej_ wrote: If you are playing a bo5, are down 1 game and want to show off how clutch you are by coming back from 0-2 shortly it's a good strat.any reason to immortal all-in if Zerg's on hatch tech and 2 bases? | ||
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Doublemint
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//edit: eat a little HEADSHOT DRONE | ||
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HellHound
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On November 24 2014 00:13 HellHound wrote: Called it!If you are playing a bo5, are down 1 game and want to show off how clutch you are by coming back from 0-2 shortly it's a good strat. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
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oh well. The final could still be epic. | ||
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royalroadweed
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Fuell
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On November 24 2014 00:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: How the games been so far? decent | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
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On November 24 2014 00:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: How the games been so far? Gumiho vs Solar was pretty weak. Though you might like it if you're a Gumiho fan. Losira vs Parting was quite good. Especially the Nimbus game. I wouldn't say there's been a 5 star game yet though. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
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*tumbleweed passes by* | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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On November 24 2014 01:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Wow that was a pretty good ZvZ *tumbleweed passes by* Those roaches sure did attack those other roaches good. | ||
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felisconcolori
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On November 24 2014 01:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Those roaches sure did attack those other roaches good. Roach on Roach ZvZ is a connoisseur's mirror match. *puts on trillby* You probably wouldn't understand. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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On November 24 2014 01:35 felisconcolori wrote: Roach on Roach ZvZ is a connoisseur's mirror match. *puts on trillby* You probably wouldn't understand. It's not as bad as everyone says, and it's still really bad. I don't even want to understand | ||
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On November 24 2014 01:38 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's not as bad as everyone says, and it's still really bad. I don't even want to understand I think it's really fun tbh. A lot of positional play and harassment. | ||
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On November 24 2014 01:43 Ej_ wrote: I think it's really fun tbh. A lot of positional play and harassment. Ya but the fights themselves are decided as soon as they start. it's just a numbers + "who has the concave" conpetition. | ||
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At least he gets 3rd | ||
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On November 24 2014 01:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: GG Losira. Solar looks... inconsistant sometimes. Bound to happen. Solar plays in like EVERYTHING | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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Also, look at these cat people... dogs are way cooler! | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On November 24 2014 01:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: That's true, Solar really wants to be the next Hyun and just go everywhere. Also, look at these cat people... dogs are way cooler! Just wait until they're stuck at the bottom of a well. | ||
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The_Templar
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All is right with the world. | ||
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Daniel C
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On November 24 2014 02:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Sick Sim City Agreed | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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On November 24 2014 02:10 The_Templar wrote: Yeah, I think PartinG is dead now. But maybe not. It's Parting with Blink stalkers. You just never know. | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:12 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: This is just Partings secret plan to make Gumiho think Tanks is viable in TvP. Bunny vs Naniwa never forget | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:14 HellHound wrote: Parting not satisfied with 3-0 comback gonna go for a full STLife comeback He's down 1-0 not 3-0  | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:13 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote: In their defense it's Parting they are talking about.Parting has been dead for so long, but the casters are seriously trying ridiculously hard to make it sound close. Rifkin: "Gumiho's at 120 supply against Partings 50, but he doesn't have stim yet. Maybe Parting can do it." ZG: "Parting has no stalkers, a probe, and a pylon against Gumiho's maxed out ghost army. I think he can make a comeback if he tries." | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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On November 24 2014 02:13 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote: Parting has been dead for so long, but the casters are seriously trying ridiculously hard to make it sound close. Rifkin: "Gumiho's at 120 supply against Partings 50, but he doesn't have stim yet. Maybe Parting can do it." ZG: "Parting has no stalkers, a probe, and a pylon against Gumiho's maxed out ghost army. I think he can make a comeback if he tries." It's a caster's job to make it seem exciting even when it's a slow and painful death. Plus, Parting can be a wizard at times. | ||
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royalroadweed
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On November 24 2014 02:12 PepsiMaxxxx wrote: This is just Partings secret plan to make Gumiho think Tanks is viable in TvP. GuMiho vs dear. GumiGod occasionally plays biomech vs protoss and uses tanks to great effect. | ||
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Yeah he totally botched that | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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Also, "Good oracle control", procedes to immediately lose oracle and almost lose other. | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: No expo. Not ever. Pretty sure there were expos during game 2 | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:32 The_Templar wrote: Pretty sure there were expos during game 2 That was to easy. Parting want's a challenge. | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:32 The_Templar wrote: Pretty sure there were expos during game 2 I wasn't watching G2 | ||
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GG | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:35 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Sigh... Blink Stalkers still kind of piss me off Well I'm pretty sure 99.9% of the player base lose this game pretty convincingly. PartinG's micro was just on top, holding on the high ground vision by a thread. | ||
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Dragoonstorm7
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On November 24 2014 02:35 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Sigh... Blink Stalkers still kind of piss me off you gotta admit that control was beautiful tho right? | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:35 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Sigh... Blink Stalkers still kind of piss me off That's because you have internalized that they are 'bullshit', a side effect of listening to bad commentary too much. | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:36 Pyloss wrote: Sick way to keep the high ground vision, so close. GG Yeah damn close. It'd be really fun to have them (because Gumiho's control was quite good too) play this game from replay over and over ^^ | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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Whatever, he's doing something different this game maybe | ||
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Really entertaining series. | ||
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Ej_
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2/10 sloppy play | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:45 Ej_ wrote: wow Parting lost a phoenix 2/10 sloppy play Ha ha ha ha  | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:45 Ej_ wrote: wow Parting lost a phoenix 2/10 sloppy play He lost a bunch of stalkers to mines at his ramp too | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:45 Ej_ wrote: wow Parting lost a phoenix 2/10 sloppy play ha actually lost 2 of them | ||
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He just lost a third one | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:46 [PkF] Wire wrote: Pretty standard stim timing. at 14:30, with tanks | ||
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No Kespa training really hurts his play | ||
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Isn't that freakin cool ? | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:49 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Gumiho is made of cool IKR | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:49 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: This is not how you're supposed to phoenix/colossus Not that this is how you're supposed to fight phoenix colossi either ! I think PartinG was pretty uncomfortable in this game. | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:50 TheDwf wrote: GuMiho had a build order advantage and was massively ahead from the opening Of course ! But the game was enjoyable (really cute micro from both sides in the early game) and the atypical composition chosen by Gumiho made it even funnier ! | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:54 Ej_ wrote: Catallena! Rhetorical question. | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:55 Lorning wrote: MAKARAX GumihoPrime?? | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:55 Ej_ wrote: this could be either Gumiho, MarineKing or a plat playing I would have 6 barracks on the way by now | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: lol what is Gumiho doing ??? stylin' | ||
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On November 24 2014 02:57 Ej_ wrote: is it still 1 base if he had expanded after twilight? No | ||
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well then all of us were wrong | ||
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On November 24 2014 03:04 Neazbo wrote: PartinG is a freak, it's almost like he intentionally digs himself a hole to see how fuked up a situation can be and still get out of it. Eh, works for Life. | ||
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On November 24 2014 03:20 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Gumiho makes me want to play Terran Siege tank push with turrets? Made me want to play starbow. | ||
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On November 24 2014 03:23 TheDwf wrote: I sure hope PartinG doesn't go proxy Oracle into Blink Nah, PartinG isn't a one trick pony  | ||
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On November 24 2014 03:23 TheDwf wrote: I sure hope PartinG doesn't go proxy Oracle into Blink Why would that ever happen? It's like saying Gumiho will make tanks, it just doesn't happen | ||
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he's 15 tricks pony | ||
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On November 24 2014 03:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: This will be Gumiho's first tournament win :D He won like GSTL finals by himself. | ||
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On November 24 2014 03:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: This will be Gumiho's first tournament win :D He wins the tournament if he loses to PartinG? | ||
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On November 24 2014 03:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: This will be Gumiho's first tournament win :D Parting is winning though :/ | ||
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On November 24 2014 03:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: This will be Gumiho's first tournament win :D A bit premature. | ||
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On November 24 2014 03:28 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: This will be Gumiho's first tournament win :D would* | ||
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On November 24 2014 03:34 MosART wrote: The Big Boy won the 32 boys cup Only the biggest boys survive | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 24 2014 03:35 KobraKay wrote: Parting is a joke....that win against Flash was trash and we saw that again today....T_T terran tears....T.T Don't hate the player, hate the game :/ | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12179 Posts
On November 24 2014 03:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Don't hate the player, hate the game :/ Or, you know, hate nothing | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8519 Posts
On November 24 2014 03:35 KobraKay wrote: Parting is a joke....that win against Flash was trash and we saw that again today....T_T terran tears....T.T The micro god takes no prisoners. PARTINGUUUUUU HWAITING! | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
This is the correct answer. We should just love gumiho instead. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On November 24 2014 03:39 royalroadweed wrote: This is the correct answer. We should just love gumiho instead. Ha ha ha ! Indeed ! I'm not a fan of PartinG either, he's far from the type of Protoss I admire and respect, but you've got to admit his micro is pristine when he decides to fully go into it. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On November 24 2014 04:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: Ha ha ha ! Indeed ! I'm not a fan of PartinG either, he's far from the type of Protoss I admire and respect, but you've got to admit his micro is pristine when he decides to fully go into it. I'm not a parting anti-fan. I just really like gumiho's play. | ||
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