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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
September 29 2014 22:22 GMT
#241
On September 30 2014 06:32 Gamegene wrote:
Soo is comfortable when he throws his opponent off balance early in the game and disrupts him,
So I'm expecting to see a lot of Cloaked Banshee play from Innovation, they do well whenever Zerg decides to go for low economy or an early bust.

I don't think Innovation wants to rely too much on straight up games to beat Soo (his mechanics are so scary even after cutting drones), I think he's going to want to rely more on prepared build orders and planned early Barracks rushes.

S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 29 2014 22:33 GMT
#242
On September 30 2014 06:32 Gamegene wrote:
Soo is comfortable when he throws his opponent off balance early in the game and disrupts him,
So I'm expecting to see a lot of Cloaked Banshee play from Innovation, they do well whenever Zerg decides to go for low economy or an early bust.

I don't think Innovation wants to rely too much on straight up games to beat Soo (his mechanics are so scary even after cutting drones), I think he's going to want to rely more on prepared build orders and planned early Barracks rushes.

I disagree, I think innovation sees weakness in his opponents ability to deal with widowmines, and will ruthlessly deal with him that way.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 29 2014 22:38 GMT
#243
On September 30 2014 07:33 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 06:32 Gamegene wrote:
Soo is comfortable when he throws his opponent off balance early in the game and disrupts him,
So I'm expecting to see a lot of Cloaked Banshee play from Innovation, they do well whenever Zerg decides to go for low economy or an early bust.

I don't think Innovation wants to rely too much on straight up games to beat Soo (his mechanics are so scary even after cutting drones), I think he's going to want to rely more on prepared build orders and planned early Barracks rushes.

I disagree, I think innovation sees weakness in his opponents ability to deal with widowmines, and will ruthlessly deal with him that way.


In my opinion, you should never rely on your opponent being unable make engagements. I'm not Innovation, perhaps he is 100% confident in his standard 3 base attacks and movements, but still he has to be wary of the kind of build orders soo can pull out of the hat. Especially since he has... Catz!!
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 29 2014 22:40 GMT
#244
On September 30 2014 07:38 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 07:33 bo1b wrote:
On September 30 2014 06:32 Gamegene wrote:
Soo is comfortable when he throws his opponent off balance early in the game and disrupts him,
So I'm expecting to see a lot of Cloaked Banshee play from Innovation, they do well whenever Zerg decides to go for low economy or an early bust.

I don't think Innovation wants to rely too much on straight up games to beat Soo (his mechanics are so scary even after cutting drones), I think he's going to want to rely more on prepared build orders and planned early Barracks rushes.

I disagree, I think innovation sees weakness in his opponents ability to deal with widowmines, and will ruthlessly deal with him that way.


In my opinion, you should never rely on your opponent being unable make engagements. I'm not Innovation, perhaps he is 100% confident in his standard 3 base attacks and movements, but still he has to be wary of the kind of build orders soo can pull out of the hat. Especially since he has... Catz!!

You bring up a valid point, this isn't really innovation vs soo, its catz vs skt t1.

gogo catz!
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
September 29 2014 22:57 GMT
#245
Some predicted effects from these finals

-If soO wins
This would change Jaedong's Blizzcon chances from ~ 68.78 % to ~ 91.82 %
This would change Snute's Blizzcon chances from ~ 13.54 % to ~ 31.1 %
This would change Golden's Blizzcon chances from ~ 2.27 % to ~ 5.21 %
This would change Heart's Blizzcon chances from ~ 2.22 % to ~ 5.1 %
This would change YoDa's Blizzcon chances from ~ 2.01 % to ~ 4.62 %
This would change HuK's Blizzcon chances from ~ 1.04 % to ~ 2.38 %

-If INnoVation wins
This would change Jaedong's Blizzcon chances from ~ 68.78 % to ~ 51.01 %
This would change Snute's Blizzcon chances from ~ 13.54 % to ~ 0 %
This would change Golden's Blizzcon chances from ~ 2.27 % to ~ 0 %
This would change Heart's Blizzcon chances from ~ 2.22 % to ~ 0 %
This would change YoDa's Blizzcon chances from ~ 2.01 % to ~ 0 %
This would change HuK's Blizzcon chances from ~ 1.04 % to ~ 0 %

http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=tournament&tid=20
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Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
September 29 2014 23:01 GMT
#246
Both sides strongest point is those mechanics, but soO is the better strategist, playing the opponent, making a plan for each map and adapting to everything he scouts in game
But Inno might outmicro soO.
Im expecting things like roach all in, bane bust and hatch block in deadwing, foxtrot and Merry go, either to kill Inno fast or at least take him out of his confort zone. You don't wanna play the machine on his confort zone. But you cannot expect to do that all games in a BO7.
I think if Inno plays too standard (like either going for the same build or proxy) he will lose to a soO that is not defeating himself.

Maybe
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
September 29 2014 23:11 GMT
#247
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HYPE HYPE HUPE
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
September 29 2014 23:29 GMT
#248
On September 30 2014 07:57 Die4Ever wrote:
Some predicted effects from these finals

-If soO wins
This would change Jaedong's Blizzcon chances from ~ 68.78 % to ~ 91.82 %
This would change Snute's Blizzcon chances from ~ 13.54 % to ~ 31.1 %
This would change Golden's Blizzcon chances from ~ 2.27 % to ~ 5.21 %
This would change Heart's Blizzcon chances from ~ 2.22 % to ~ 5.1 %
This would change YoDa's Blizzcon chances from ~ 2.01 % to ~ 4.62 %
This would change HuK's Blizzcon chances from ~ 1.04 % to ~ 2.38 %

-If INnoVation wins
This would change Jaedong's Blizzcon chances from ~ 68.78 % to ~ 51.01 %
This would change Snute's Blizzcon chances from ~ 13.54 % to ~ 0 %
This would change Golden's Blizzcon chances from ~ 2.27 % to ~ 0 %
This would change Heart's Blizzcon chances from ~ 2.22 % to ~ 0 %
This would change YoDa's Blizzcon chances from ~ 2.01 % to ~ 0 %
This would change HuK's Blizzcon chances from ~ 1.04 % to ~ 0 %

http://sc2.4ever.tv/?page=tournament&tid=20

So basically Europe is rooting for soO?
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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TerranOwnsAll
Profile Joined January 2014
359 Posts
September 29 2014 23:50 GMT
#249
On September 29 2014 03:03 Shellshock wrote:
soO has a 0% win rate in offline Bo5+ vs Terran


Am I reading that right, Shellshock, you have over 70,000 posts? Dannnnnggggg dawg lol
Man, I miss how dominant seige tanks were in SC1. Wish they would bring that back in SC2
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
September 29 2014 23:51 GMT
#250
On September 30 2014 08:50 TerranOwnsAll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 03:03 Shellshock wrote:
soO has a 0% win rate in offline Bo5+ vs Terran


Am I reading that right, Shellshock, you have over 70,000 posts? Dannnnnggggg dawg lol

This reminds me that I am nearing 25k. I need to think of something to do >.>
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 29 2014 23:52 GMT
#251
On September 30 2014 08:51 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 08:50 TerranOwnsAll wrote:
On September 29 2014 03:03 Shellshock wrote:
soO has a 0% win rate in offline Bo5+ vs Terran


Am I reading that right, Shellshock, you have over 70,000 posts? Dannnnnggggg dawg lol

This reminds me that I am nearing 25k. I need to think of something to do >.>


keep posting because no one cares?
TerranOwnsAll
Profile Joined January 2014
359 Posts
September 29 2014 23:53 GMT
#252
On September 30 2014 08:51 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 08:50 TerranOwnsAll wrote:
On September 29 2014 03:03 Shellshock wrote:
soO has a 0% win rate in offline Bo5+ vs Terran


Am I reading that right, Shellshock, you have over 70,000 posts? Dannnnnggggg dawg lol

This reminds me that I am nearing 25k. I need to think of something to do >.>


You could celebrate by going to Korea and watching Blizzcon live!
Man, I miss how dominant seige tanks were in SC1. Wish they would bring that back in SC2
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
September 30 2014 00:02 GMT
#253
On September 30 2014 08:52 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 08:51 The_Templar wrote:
On September 30 2014 08:50 TerranOwnsAll wrote:
On September 29 2014 03:03 Shellshock wrote:
soO has a 0% win rate in offline Bo5+ vs Terran


Am I reading that right, Shellshock, you have over 70,000 posts? Dannnnnggggg dawg lol

This reminds me that I am nearing 25k. I need to think of something to do >.>


keep posting because no one cares?

That is probably what I will do, yes.

On September 30 2014 08:53 TerranOwnsAll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 08:51 The_Templar wrote:
On September 30 2014 08:50 TerranOwnsAll wrote:
On September 29 2014 03:03 Shellshock wrote:
soO has a 0% win rate in offline Bo5+ vs Terran


Am I reading that right, Shellshock, you have over 70,000 posts? Dannnnnggggg dawg lol

This reminds me that I am nearing 25k. I need to think of something to do >.>


You could celebrate by going to Korea and watching Blizzcon live!

I have no money and no time T_T
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
September 30 2014 01:14 GMT
#254
Inno will go up 3-0, soO will come back and pull a Soulkey to 3-3 and in the final game Inno switches to Protoss to win the game.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 30 2014 01:31 GMT
#255
Best banner?

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Best banner.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
September 30 2014 01:40 GMT
#256
Needs more HYPE!
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 30 2014 03:08 GMT
#257
This is like Fantasy vs Stork in BW. Or Fantasy vs Jangbi.
TerranOwnsAll
Profile Joined January 2014
359 Posts
September 30 2014 03:10 GMT
#258
On September 30 2014 10:14 Greenei wrote:
Inno will go up 3-0, soO will come back and pull a Soulkey to 3-3 and in the final game Inno switches to Protoss to win the game.


I could actually see this happening! haha
Man, I miss how dominant seige tanks were in SC1. Wish they would bring that back in SC2
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-30 03:10:42
September 30 2014 03:10 GMT
#259
On September 30 2014 12:08 andrewlt wrote:
This is like Fantasy vs Stork in BW. Or Fantasy vs Jangbi.

I guess saying it's like Flash vs Jaedong is going too far?

Or are you talking in number of silver medals?
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
TerranOwnsAll
Profile Joined January 2014
359 Posts
September 30 2014 03:15 GMT
#260
On September 30 2014 12:10 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 12:08 andrewlt wrote:
This is like Fantasy vs Stork in BW. Or Fantasy vs Jangbi.

I guess saying it's like Flash vs Jaedong is going too far?

Or are you talking in number of silver medals?


Do you think we will ever see a Flash v Jaedong finals in SC2?
Man, I miss how dominant seige tanks were in SC1. Wish they would bring that back in SC2
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