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On September 24 2014 19:08 imrusty269 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 19:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 24 2014 19:04 Shellshock wrote:On September 24 2014 19:04 fmod wrote: Looks like protoss will win GSL again... shocker Cure already beat Zest before this season and Innovation will also have a decent shot at him I like how you probably really believe this ^^ Cure would 4-1 him at least. Zest is not on the same PvT level as Parting, Trap, herO. of course he will.terran are imba
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On September 24 2014 19:09 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 19:08 elwoodng wrote: It seems to me the strongest about Zest isn't actually his micro or macro (although still good), but his army control, positioning, understanding how PvZ works at an extremely high level so his decisions are almost always the optimal choices, when to turtle, when to move out on the map, what army composition to build to counter the zerg, when to harrass with warp prisms, Zealot run-bys, DTs, when to build reactive stargates in-case of a muta switch, multi-tasking etc. So good im not normally one to start semantic arguments but i think army control and positioning are the same thing as micro Yea it needs micro as well of course, but I mean more about the strategic part of army control and positioning, rather than "pure-micro" execution part (which is still very good of course), if you know what I mean?
IMO that's the biggest difference between Zest and other Protosses that are extremely good at micro as well, like Parting.
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On September 24 2014 19:13 Ketch wrote: Wolf trying for the Artosis curse?
This. I think Zest is doomed.
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On September 24 2014 19:14 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 19:11 antiRW wrote:On September 24 2014 19:09 Squat wrote: This is so strange, last night a gentleman here on TL insisted vociferously that protoss was super weak and could never beat SH in the late game. This was based on the incontrovertible evidence of seeing Golden slap around a foreigner in 2 Bo3.
I am so confused, can anyone make sense of this conumdrum? Please, keep your balance whine out of LR threads. i might summon gumba (dunno if he slept yet) but I think if it's Zest vs. Innovation finals, it's Innovation's to lose and not Zest's to win.
Innovations TvP hasn't looked good either, tbh. That series against Myunsik was just aweful and he donated games all over the place to all sorts of Protoss players this season.
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On September 24 2014 19:09 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 19:08 liberate71 wrote:On September 24 2014 19:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 24 2014 19:04 Shellshock wrote:On September 24 2014 19:04 fmod wrote: Looks like protoss will win GSL again... shocker Cure already beat Zest before this season and Innovation will also have a decent shot at him I like how you probably really believe this ^^ Zest got fucked up by Taeja, and Inno is just as good as him. Flash also beat the shit out of Zest. He will just immortal allin 4 times, np. That build never fails for him.
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wait, what are you doing soo
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Australia18228 Posts
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i have a feeling zest will scout this pretty easily. ballsy down 0-2
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the youtube streams when they were still around were always flawless, twitch just stinks...
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On September 24 2014 19:14 Crot4le wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 19:07 antiRW wrote: Stop the hate on soO. He is not playing badly at all. Zest is just out-decisioning him at the moment, but then Zest is by far the best player in the world at the moment. ftfy
word.
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On September 24 2014 19:15 jojos11 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 19:08 imrusty269 wrote:On September 24 2014 19:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 24 2014 19:04 Shellshock wrote:On September 24 2014 19:04 fmod wrote: Looks like protoss will win GSL again... shocker Cure already beat Zest before this season and Innovation will also have a decent shot at him I like how you probably really believe this ^^ Cure would 4-1 him at least. Zest is not on the same PvT level as Parting, Trap, herO. of course he will.terran are imba
Only maybe vs Zerg.
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
Finally something surprising
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On September 24 2014 19:10 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 19:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:On September 24 2014 19:08 imrusty269 wrote:On September 24 2014 19:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 24 2014 19:04 Shellshock wrote:On September 24 2014 19:04 fmod wrote: Looks like protoss will win GSL again... shocker Cure already beat Zest before this season and Innovation will also have a decent shot at him I like how you probably really believe this ^^ Cure would 4-1 him at least. Zest is not on the same PvT level as Parting, Trap, herO. Of all those, only herO has better PvT. yea herO in PvT looks scary, no way a terran can challenge him
Which is kinda funny considering some pro Protoss players are complaining about how Protoss are doing in tournaments
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On September 24 2014 19:15 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 19:14 JoeCool wrote:On September 24 2014 19:13 shadymmj wrote: bear in mind, inno would probably still tear zest apart, along with the long trail of zerg corpses he has left behind. of course most people would give more credit to inno because his brute force style is highly visible and highly entertaining - simply hammering the zerg into submission with drops and parades - but his mind is not as sharp as zest's. but say, if inno went to KT and zest/flash taught him a thing or two about game sense....*shudder* Innovations new team hasn't been announced yet, right? I'd say SKT. They just freed up space.
Yeah most likely although I want him to join KT.
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Nice, this should be interesting.
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On September 24 2014 19:09 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 19:08 liberate71 wrote:On September 24 2014 19:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 24 2014 19:04 Shellshock wrote:On September 24 2014 19:04 fmod wrote: Looks like protoss will win GSL again... shocker Cure already beat Zest before this season and Innovation will also have a decent shot at him I like how you probably really believe this ^^ Zest got fucked up by Taeja, and Inno is just as good as him. Flash also beat the shit out of Zest. I think cure has a better chance of beating zest than bogus. Historically zest is 4-1 against him, while cure is 3-0 vs zest.
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On September 24 2014 19:16 Applesmack wrote:This. I think Zest is doomed.
What makes you think Wolf can pull of the cursiest curse of all time?
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Here come the wacky proxy hatches.
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