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Please stop making stupid polls just for the sake of making polls.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 31 2014 18:22 GMT
#2501
Congratulations to TL writers for the top2 of their Power rank.
BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
August 31 2014 18:22 GMT
#2502
On September 01 2014 03:18 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 03:17 Yorkie wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:15 SatedSC2 wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:14 Yorkie wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:13 SatedSC2 wrote:
Life tried to be clever by skipping Zergling Speed and delaying his Roach Warren and he got absolutely slapped down for it.

#REKT

Life tried to be economic you mean...

If by economic you mean super greedy then yeah?

Ehhh a lot of Protosses do the equivalent of "delay ling speed and roach warren" almost every game but zerg building walls don't really work

And sometimes Protoss gets punished for it cf. every Nexus/Gate loss to a <10 Pool. Life took a risk and got punished.


Except we easily see more all-ins from Toss than an all in 10 pool from zerg. Why, because Toss has a variety of all-ins that they can pull out and they have recall, and change plans if they see zerg delayed third, etc.

A zerg commiting to an all-in 10 pool is a stupid gamble, while Toss's all-in gambles are much more effective
Snute <3 Bomber <3 Parting <3 Life <3
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
August 31 2014 18:22 GMT
#2503
On September 01 2014 03:18 Yiome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 03:14 Morphage wrote:
so the real question: is Zest going to throw the finals so that Flash has a better chance at Blizzcon?

My thought exactly
The bad thing is we can never be sure zest throw the game or not...this doubt will taint the victory

Only if you show such an incredibly low level of respect towards their integrity. Considering they lived through the first match fixing scandal in Korea, and if affected them the most.. yeah.. he won't throw.
Refer to my post.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
August 31 2014 18:22 GMT
#2504
Kappa Tie is the true prize
rip passion
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 31 2014 18:23 GMT
#2505
Zest has such a straight face during that last question in english :D
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 31 2014 18:23 GMT
#2506
This translator's so cool.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
August 31 2014 18:23 GMT
#2507
lol that Kappa tie
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 18:24:38
August 31 2014 18:23 GMT
#2508
On September 01 2014 03:20 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 03:19 bo1b wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:18 SatedSC2 wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:17 Yorkie wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:15 SatedSC2 wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:14 Yorkie wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:13 SatedSC2 wrote:
Life tried to be clever by skipping Zergling Speed and delaying his Roach Warren and he got absolutely slapped down for it.

#REKT

Life tried to be economic you mean...

If by economic you mean super greedy then yeah?

Ehhh a lot of Protosses do the equivalent of "delay ling speed and roach warren" almost every game but zerg building walls don't really work

And sometimes Protoss gets punished for it cf. every Nexus/Gate loss to a <10 Pool.

You think oracle 7 gate is the equivalent of 10 pool?

My point is that playing greedily gets punished by aggression.

Are people really trying to claim that this isn't/shouldn't be the case?

I think you're making a disingenuous comparison and that pool 3 hatch is no where near the same as nexus first in terms of greed and defend-ability.

I also think that the book of protoss filth encompasses so many early game win builds in comparison to terran and zerg, as well as having the absolute best late game outside of bc raven and swarmhost, and super good turtling ability forces the most boring games imaginable.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
August 31 2014 18:23 GMT
#2509
On September 01 2014 03:22 TheDwf wrote:
Congratulations to TL writers for the top2 of their Power rank.

But people said it was bullshit.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
August 31 2014 18:23 GMT
#2510
On September 01 2014 03:21 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 03:20 The_Templar wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:14 SatedSC2 wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:13 bo1b wrote:
Another 5 star game

I like watching greed get punished so yes =P

that's not how the rating system works:

1 star: Particularly bad- really boring, repetitive, or an average stomp.
2 stars: Not good- something we see a lot, average one-sided game, or boring.
3 stars: Decent- good standard game, or something that would be expected.
4 stars: Good- high-level standard game, or sloppy and entertaining, or brutal, one-sided game.
5 stars: Excellent- extremely high level standard game, or something extremely unusual happens, or there's amazing entertainment value in the game.

That last game was 2 stars

"there's amazing entertainment value in the game."

I am amazingly entertained by greedy Zergs getting slapped into oblivion, and the resulting tears from people who don't seem to understand that greed > safe > aggressive > greed.

So 5 stars right..?

=D

Your opinion is totally unbiased and correct and Protoss greed is as easy to punish as any other race. I apologize for ever saying anything I think and giving you the impression of "tears"
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
August 31 2014 18:23 GMT
#2511
On September 01 2014 03:22 TheDwf wrote:
Congratulations to TL writers for the top2 of their Power rank.


Conspiracy
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
August 31 2014 18:23 GMT
#2512
On September 01 2014 03:20 Entropy137 wrote:
Apparently flash needs to get first to make it to blizzcon? that could be a big deal for zest to consider...


He doesn't absolutely need it, but it would be useful.
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
August 31 2014 18:23 GMT
#2513
--- Nuked ---
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
August 31 2014 18:23 GMT
#2514
jesus christ his voice is so deep
KT FlaSh FOREVER
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 31 2014 18:23 GMT
#2515
On September 01 2014 03:22 TheDwf wrote:
Congratulations to TL writers for the top2 of their Power rank.

I was thinking this too, is this the first time their top 2, or even 2 of their top 3, is the finals? (MKP vs DRG in an MLG maybe?)
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 18:24:14
August 31 2014 18:24 GMT
#2516
how in the world would you go about explaining kappa to a korean on the fly like that lol
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
August 31 2014 18:24 GMT
#2517
On September 01 2014 03:23 Lunareste wrote:
jesus christ his voice is so deep

so deep adele can roll into it
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
August 31 2014 18:24 GMT
#2518
Usually I'm getting salty and sad when Life loses, but damn Zest looks way to good to be sad. I can drown in that smile.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
August 31 2014 18:24 GMT
#2519
On September 01 2014 03:23 SatedSC2 wrote:
Explaining what Kappa is...

God damn it T_T

REPORTED!
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Entropy137
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada215 Posts
August 31 2014 18:24 GMT
#2520
On September 01 2014 03:22 BakedButters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 03:18 SatedSC2 wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:17 Yorkie wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:15 SatedSC2 wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:14 Yorkie wrote:
On September 01 2014 03:13 SatedSC2 wrote:
Life tried to be clever by skipping Zergling Speed and delaying his Roach Warren and he got absolutely slapped down for it.

#REKT

Life tried to be economic you mean...

If by economic you mean super greedy then yeah?

Ehhh a lot of Protosses do the equivalent of "delay ling speed and roach warren" almost every game but zerg building walls don't really work

And sometimes Protoss gets punished for it cf. every Nexus/Gate loss to a <10 Pool. Life took a risk and got punished.


Except we easily see more all-ins from Toss than an all in 10 pool from zerg. Why, because Toss has a variety of all-ins that they can pull out and they have recall, and change plans if they see zerg delayed third, etc.

A zerg commiting to an all-in 10 pool is a stupid gamble, while Toss's all-in gambles are much more effective

that makes them inherently less all inny
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